#villains as protagonists are great

[enlichened]

The thing thats consistently bothered me the most in the fallout show is the racism. I would hesitate to recommend it because of that alone. And there was obvious love that the set and prop designers, actors, costume department, and even maybe the writers put into the show! There are themes and characters in fallout that i'm certain would resonate with fans of color!

It KILLS me that so many of the fallout entries are damn well unplayable/watchable in this regard because the writers simply Don't Care how the people in their work are presented. That this like hugely popular world with a lot of worldbuilding and thought behind it does such wrong to so many people, fans and otherwise, that you cannot find any game in the series that does it right or well. It alienates a lot of people who might've been fans just because the majority white creators and fanbase don't give a shit, and I'm sick of it.

it's not enough to say "in the fallout in my head that racism doesn't happen," you actually have to put some things into PRACTICE. Allow space in your head, your games/show, your fan spaces for people of color! notice and say something when you see racism coming from media, yourself, and others!

[stupidlyqueer]

it's fucking 2024 stop using villain and antagonist interchangeably.

Ozai's a villain.

Azula, Zuko, Ty Lee, Mai, Hama, are all antagonists.

Azula, Zuko and Hama are villainous antagonists, but antagonists all the same.

[fallen-angel-adam-frankenstein]

I’m starting a club with Richard Papen, Oliver Marks, and Nick Carraway, who else wants in?

[sonknuxadow]

Honestly the thing I'm most worried about uf they make Eggman fat in Sonic 3 is I'm 95 percent sure they're going to come up with a BS excuse.

Like yes Eggman was planned to slowly turn more game Eggman like as the movies progress (Sonic 1 gave him his red outfit in the end, Sonic 2 made him bald, gave him the signature stache and made him a bit crazy, Sonic 3 might be giving him his signature bulk and probably some other things) and it sucks that they'd have to use a fat suit in order to get Jim to look the part but I don't want it them to phone it in as something like it being an effect of absorbing the Master Emerald and I'll be real disappointed if its something like 'oh, he just let himself go'

Maybe Eggman had a scientific reason to bulk up, or maybe he just thought he looked good with some extra weight, or maybe it is a side effect of something but he knew about it before hand and was okay with it. As long as its more of a choice then I think I'd be more okay with it.

we dont really have the full context yet of course but the descriptions of the teaser going around are making it sound like they went with the "he let himself go and gained a lot of weight" explanation. and idk man maybe it just sounds bad out of context but im tired of fatness being portrayed as gross and a negative trait and weight gain being used to signify a character becoming Worse in some way. fat people are just people and the body type someone has doesnt have any morals attached to it. again maybe it just sounds bad out of context and the movie wont make his weight gain into a joke but my hopes arent high because being weird about fat people is not new for sonic media at all

[cepheusgalaxy]

I don't see the appeal of villain whumpees

They're like, little girls and guys who are waaay to cocky about their positions and don't expect it when they are put in their place. They are all high and mighty, misterious, cruel foils to their hero counterparts, and then a higher, mightier entity steps in and crushes them, leaving them helpless.

I mean, it's kinda nice when they are all expecting of their inevitable being hurt. Hopeless little pals who are maybe a little too careful with their every step or else they know they are going to be hurt oh so badly if they screw up, just while doing their evil schemes.

I guess it's also a bit nice when they are at the lowest point, and the so noble heroes save them after they were screwed up, but their proud asses can't handle it. When the suffering doesn't humble them, when they only get crueler because of it, leaving the heroes wondering if they shouldn't have let them to rot in whatever shit they were deep into.

Like, maybe I could enjoy a story where the villain is a morally grey character who would like, never do something good no matter what. It's no good for them. They would never. But then they care for someone, and give their things up for this person--or maybe it's a thing--and now they can't--

Oh, oh, or maybe they were so hungry for power and they didn't care about anything they had to do to get it, but now it consumes them, and they are slaves of a more powerful entity, trapped in a prision of their own making...

...ok, I get it now

[songsteps]

okay I broke and read Sky in a day here are my general thoughts

Frostpaw my baby you really are The Only (tm) A Starless Clan protagonist... she's the only one I don't have any particular negative feelings towards and I'm genuinely interested in her storyline, also I love seeing how much it's highlighted that Mothwing is incredibly capable and responsible, like we all knew she was but, makes me happy that some attention seems to be brought to it :)

like man I know she would want to stay a med cat and she DESERVES WHAT SHE WANTS but tbh? I feel she'd make a good leader.... Mothstar

and I think that's all I really have to say that's good

god I hate Nightheart now, like my original interpretation of him in River that he might be good and was relatable was based upon the fact that he seemed a lot more genuinely insecure like thinking he has capabilities but fucking up because of an (irrational) focus on lineage and overthinking shit, and the thing he felt he deserved was more his own identity, which is fair, and I thought they might take a more complex route exploring that BUT NO, like, I feel like the things that get passed around the most that garner hate for him are probably just more shocking and yea could probably be explained away but it doesn't matter cause the biggest problem with him is instead of having like plausibly having a fight with self doubt and stuff like I viewed him in River he's constantly like "well I deserve RESPECT for HOW GREAT I AM and just no one can see that" like dude, shut up where are you getting the idea that you're so great, and I just, completely rescind all my previous opinions on him, even though my inital expectations of his character would've been better for a protagonist that wouldn't have made want to throw my phone at the wall while I read the book. Which I think was why I was much more inclined to interpret him that way initally but like, to anyone still attached to him there is no question at this point this isn't just a case of a young adult having an angst session this is a character thinking he deserves things that he hasn't earned like especially in the case of his warrior duties he has proven he doesn't deserve respect in that regard, outright blames Squirrelflight repeatedly, like it comes down to his self righteousness instead of self questioning you know? that's the thing that is the crux of his shittiness as a person and I understand wanting to cling to an inital interpretation of him being more complex but his ridiculously prominent self righteousness just kills any reasonable interpretation that requires anything but a complete overhaul of his personality. like, I like Crowfeather, I don't like or accept everything he does in canon but there's enough that is not stated to us and enough depth behind the intention of his character that allows some different interpretations of him as someone who can and does eventually choose change without entirely breaking from the story given to us, but god... NIGHTHEART IS NOT IN THAT BOAT

Sunbeam is... okay as a character I guess? I wasn't fond of how she treated Lightleap though I still guess it's an understandable temporary emotion, her taste in toms makes me a lil more hesitant to give her as much slack on that as I might otherwise, but her interactions with her mother Berryheart are interesting, though that is really the only interesting thing in this arc besides what's going on in RiverClan

these books still make me angry, but I do want to see what happens to RiverClan myself, though I can't quite theorize what exactly is going on yet. Berryheart and Sunbeam's conflict is interesting as well, I honestly can't give a shit about anything else like I have so little to say on the plot because I honestly feel like this book didn't really... feel like it added much more to the story

hey! I've got a good idea! only Frostpaw and... I guess Sunbeam (for her interactions w/ her mother) get a POV in the books after this one, Frostpaw gets more chapters though so we can focus on the only plot thread that is significantly interesting

I know it's not gonna happen but it'd make the rest of this arc so much more fucking bearable

[shima-draws]

YESSSS I’M AT THE DAGUR REDEMPTION ARC

[enobariasteeth]

love remarried empress but WOW are the fans incapable of nuance

[v-arbellanaris]

i think some of u need to calm down and remember this is a game. i did not pay [redacted amount of money] for a game to not explore all the options, and if you did, i think you're stupid and should have just watched a playthrough on youtube.

[scalproie]

I have a whole essay about vegeta in me but my phone is at 9% so youre all spared right now

[mejomonster]

I haven't seen the new episodes yet. But from what I can gather this show is wish fulfillment and I'm quite excited that from what I've heard so far the plot is going like. The Most ideal way i would have hoped for it to be written

[sparklecryptid]

Sorry had a sudden thought of will graham being indigenous and was suddenly overcome by the meta that was lost because he’s a white guy

[sonderwrit]

C117: BUG

I Have to Be a Great Villain - Masterpost

(Note that author also put out a mini-chapter 116.5 which is just diary entries, but I'll translate that later.)

Author's 木火然 Weibo post:

Translation: I sincerely invite everyone to look at the Demon Clan Wang Yi (not really). There's a lot of plot with this arc, wrote myself to death with it, there'll probably be plenty of dialogue going forwards!

(Qin Xian's dialogue bubble gets blurry)

Qin Xian: Disciple…

QX: Disciple.

QX: Disciple!

Wang Yi: ?!

WY: Master…? What happened to me?

QX: Disciple's true qi suddenly turned chaotic during breakthrough and Master couldn't call you awake.

WY: (I seemed to have seen something ominous just then. What invading army? And there was a mountain of corpses…)

QX: !

QX: (Why would he see hallucinations in his inner consciousness? Is it the beginning of cultivation deviation, or the awakening of an unusual bloodline?)

WY: Then…am I all right like this? Will it be like the book where the disciple had a troublesome secret for the Master?

WY: (These strange visions appeared in my childhood too.)

QX: …..

QX: It won't. Is there anywhere else you're uncomfortable?

S-0: ……

S-0: (Huh, are these signs of the villainous supporting character showing themselves?) <- *misunderstood*

S-0: [The original villainous senior brother Immortal Sovereign Wan Yi* did have a bloodline from the demon race. Otherwise, he wouldn't have rebelled during the Daoist-Demon War in the latter half of the story.]

*Immortal Sovereign Wan Yi is Wang Yi's daoist name

S-0: (Thank goodness Host's memories are sealed. If his brain was running off like a train and the Sword Saint, [slaughterer of all demons under heaven], read his mind, the story would end just like that.)

—

???: Sword Saint Qin?

???: You're Sword Saint Qin, right?

QX/WY: ?

???: As expected.

[Luo Wenliu - Protagonist shou of Defying the Gods, originally expected to show up one year later.]

Luo Wenliu: I am the sect leader's new disciple Luo Wenliu. I have the ability to divine Heavenly secrets.

LWL: Hurry and get away from fim. Your disciple Wang Yi—

*uncorks*

LWL: —is a snake demon!

S-0: (WTH?!)

S-0: [Isn't the protagonist shou Luo Wenliu supposed to join the sect a year later after being noticed by the Sword Saint?]

S-0: (Why did he show up early?)

S-0: (He even knows about Wang Yi's demonic bloodline, as if he just showed up to tattle.)

S-0: [Could it be another transmigrator? Let me connect to the other System to see…]

-SYSTEM FOUND…- *zzzap* -SEARCH RESULTS SHOW NO EXISTENCE OF OTHER SYSTEMS.-

S-0: ?

S-0: (What was that just then, me seeing things? Strange, I thought it found something, but it suddenly disappeared.) [Refreshing it is useless too.]

S-0: Could it be…

S-0: An actual world BUG—appeared? (That's way too much of a coincidence!)

—

LWL: That there, it's a bit sudden, but after divining the results, I came to find you straightaway.

WY: *hisses in pain*

LWL: Although you might not know who I am yet.

S-0: (In any case…)

S-0: (Since the Main System is here, I have to report it.)

LWL: But I can tell you lots of things only you know, so please believe m e.

QX: Oh. *turns away emotionlessly*

LWL: Sword Saint, believe me! *darts in front*

LWL: Disciple genuinely wants to help you.

LWL: Because…

[I lived a lifetime in this world…]

[But for some reason, regressed to Heaven's chosen one as a child.]

LWL: I…regressed?

[With memories of my previous life intact.]

LWL: Then can I find my lovers ahead of time and stop the Daoist-Demon War?

White cat: Meow~

LWL: Because disciple has divined that disciple is—

LWL: YOUR FUTURE DAO COMPANION!

—

QX: ("Regressed"?)

QX: Little friend*, please don't lie.

*little friend - 小友 xiaoyou, common way for Daoists to refer to well, acquaintences and stuff,  like "kid" or "fellow"

QX: Let's go, he's probably not telling the truth.

*WY grabs his wrist*

QX: ?

QX: What is it, disciple?

WY: Ah, sorry.

WY: I grabbed on without realizing it.

WY: (Eh?)

WY: (What was I thinking about just then.)

WY: (My chest suddenly feels tight after smelling the wine in that child's hand.)

WY: (As if something important…was taken away by someone.)

—

FLASHBACK

Qin Xian (X): Apologies, this is the only way to get you back.

QX: Don't blame me.

BA-THUMP–

—

LWL: Hey, did you guys hear what I say? Sword Saint, you're being tricked by him!

LWL: Senior brother Wang has the blood of the snake clan, he'll definitely betray the sect and you in the future.

LWL: This gourd holds realgar wine capable of forcing the snake demon to reveal its true form. Senior brother's obviously affected by it, doesn't Sword Saint get it yet?

WY: Urk—

QX: Disciple?

QX: Little friend Luo, please close the lid of the wine.

WY: Hahhh— hiss—

LWL: ….!

LWL: Sword Saint…no way, right?

LWL: Aren't you supposed to slaughter all demons under Heaven?

LWL: Didn't you say you liked me the most?

LWL: Was it all a lie?!

QX: (You're the one who can't tell human from demons.)

QX: (Forget it, since it's Wu Zhen's disciple, I'll leave the discipline to him.)

LWL: ?!

LWL: Sword Saint, please wait!

LWL: As long as Sword Saint speaks a little longer with this disciple, you'll understand my good points and who's truly treating you with sincerity.

LWL: Disciple believes that Sword Saint Qin has a righteous mind to see right from wrong.

LWL: So I'll follow you from now on until you see Senior Brother Wang's true nature, and severely punish the snake demon—

WY: You're so noisy.

WY: Snake demon this, snake demon that, there should be limits to what you say!

WY: When was it ever a little kid's right to tell Master what to do?

LWL: *startled!*

WY: As I see it, the one who's problematic—should be you, right?

WY: (Hahah, the pain's killing me. Why did the seal on my memories break?) [But there's no time to think, I need to assume my character role.]

—

Sword Sect's Disicple-Raising Diary (Pt. 4)

XX Year XX Month XX Day Clear skies, my disciple doesn't seem to have a rebellious phase?

QX: *studying contents of book* WY: ZZzz…

XX Year XX Month XX Day I really think he has none.

WY: ?

XX Year XX Month XX Day He does.

WY: I grabbed on without realizing it.

—

[savage-rhi]

😩✊🏻

[tytangfei]

What I enjoy about our villain rong hao is that he's given this tragic background that explains why he's devoted to his master--the person who literally saved his young life and gifted him sight--and it makes him sympathetic but, because of his refusal to own up to his own choices, makes him despicable. Again and again, he likes talking about how he had no choice, and others like chengheng will have no choice, that everything is inevitable. But, as we witness from our main characters--who chooses to defy fate, who chooses each other--rong hao is absolutely wrong. There is always a choice and the consequences may be dire but rong hao is just too much of a coward to face them unlike our protagonists who stepped up to their duty and responsibility and endured immense pain for their choices.

[fruit-colored-ninja]

I’ve tried to rewatch skybound a couple times and i genuinely can’t do it and every time nadakhan comes across my dash i’m reminded why