Monkey Fist was the mature villain imho and Ron did kill the Lorwardians, as a matter of fact.
haha, yes. in the craving for new content, folks seem to forget some of what we already got.
let's start with Graduation. and...i want to back up to Clothes Minded actually, because it will always bother my scientific mind that that gets glossed over. and this cements the show even more in the cartoon world... Drakken can't just move the continents. and the flip of a switch can't un-move them either. do i still love the episode? yes. but...it's not. real.
so then in Graduation... Kim's house is destroyed, the entire world is invaded by destructive robots... the final fight we see implies mass devastation by said robots... Ron's heroism saves the world, but...since we're so used to the cartoon world that is spelled out for us again and again...none of this feels all that intense? or not as intense as it should. not till the very end when Shego appears to be badly wounded (but then just gets up again fine later i'm still miffed about that) and Kim is at their mercy do we get that sense of.... okay, this is serious now. and Ron does kill them, the creators confirmed it... but it doesn't have the weight i think it should, because...the show just hasn't been very weighty. and that's okay. KP is KP. don't like it, write fanfic.
but now... Monkey Fist's arc was....i'm gonna call it the closest to BTAS that we got in the show. i make that references because anyone who has seen that show knows... BTAS was full of real-world tragedy, injury, death, themes of loss... themes of people willing to throw it all away for the sake of their desire... over and over again... Monkey Fist was just that.
i mean... it's only fanon and headcanon that MF was restored. for all we know, he's dead and gone. turned to stone for all eternity. you can't get more real world than that. plus, that final episode of his... the threat of death to Kim and Yori and everyone from being turned to stone... for once...FINALLY...easily more than in Graduation (for me at least), we got that sense of real threat. that sense of...maybe the heroes aren't gonna come out and top and we're not just bouncing back to the status quo after this ends. finally, this is serious.
so, yes Anon. Ron did indeed kill the Lorwardians, it's just kind of...overlooked as they hurry to close out the episode and give closure to all the main characters. and MF was in fact the mature villain of the show. he was our Batman villain.
As the strongest Lowardian, WarGOAT, fought the fraud, the Ultimate Monkey Master, he begun to open up his domain. Ron shrunk back in fear and Warhok said
Hello, pal. I love your comic!! I have a question, if you don't mind. You see, in the side of the bad guys there are a lot of aliens (Vilgax, Modula, Vexus...) and Plasmius, who ended up in space. So, any chance that Warhok and Warmonga (Kim Possible's final enemies) will join the club too?
If you recall, they got blown-up big time on Earth at the end of KP, so they won’t be showing up any time soon, lol
Green light fills up dreary skies over war torn lands. It's humanity's last stand against the Lowardians. Alien walkers wrestle with Doctor Drakken’s plant army, the mutant plants toppling the walkers with ease. Shego storms the battlefield, her sheer power coloring the sky. Thunder booms and flares with each strike she makes, her wrath shattering the long legs of the walkers. Drakken cackles gleefully, flying overhead in his hovercraft. Lasers fire from his many cannons, dismantling the walkers with as much ease as Shego’s wrath.
Meanwhile, Kim Possible and Ron Stoppable fight back-to-back. Both of them are fresh out of high school and about the same height. She has sweeping auburn hair with hopeful green eyes. He has brown eyes, freckles, noodly arms, and short blonde hair with a noticeable cowlick. They square off with the nefarious Warhok and Warmonga.
It’s harmony. Good and evil unite to vanquish a greater foe.
Warhok, the hulking green mass of muscle, dives at Kim. Ron bows low and spins into a deft sweep kick. Glowing blue light trails after his heel, and he knocks Warhok clean in the chest, knocking him backwards.
Ron looks back and says something. What exactly, he says, Kim doesn’t know. The air around his mouth distorts and vibrates, concealing his lip movements. The sounds are muffled, like they’re in a vacuum, but he is still shrill with emotion. He looks at her with wide, pleading eyes. Kim tries to look at him, tries to understand, but Warmonga keeps clawing at her.
Kim kicks and kicks, warding Warmonga off. Kim spares a risky glance over her shoulder.
“Ron! Keep your head in the game!” she scolds.
A crackle of thunder ruptures the sky, and the green light glows brighter. Ron turns towards her. Blurts out more gibberish.
She puts her hands on his shoulders, eyes drilling into his.
He gets more and more frantic, gesturing animatedly around them. Suddenly, he grabs her shoulders, rocking her back-and-forth in a frenzy. He bows his head against her chest, and looks up at her with tears streaking his cheeks. He reaches up towards her face, hand shaking.
She takes his hand and places it on her cheek.
“Ron,” she says, and traces of Shego’s glow escape onto their faces. Her skin ignites in feeling, the heat sending prickles down the length of her flesh. Her eyes water, and she takes Ron by the jaw. Intending to show him courage, it falters fast. She stammers for a moment while he waits with bated breath.
His dependency on her makes her angry, as does her dependency on him. Why can’t she be strong enough for the two of them, even when in the eye of the Apocalypse? She’s been training her whole life for this and—
She falters. Becomes weak. She can’t help it.
“Ron!” Her voice is strangled and anguished. “You don’t think I’m scared too?”
The green light goes up like an atom bomb, consuming everything. The power rushes through their bodies, erasing it all under an unearthly shade of green. Skin chips off their bones, and Kim’s arms lash out to ensnare Ron in a crushing embrace. But he’s gone. Her arms clap to her chest. She breathes her last before—
She awakens with a start, snapping out of her daydream. She pats down the floor to the aircraft, and feels the rumble beneath her palms. She pats down her arms and feels the long gloves she needs to wear for this mission. Sinks her fingers deep into the fabric, grounding herself for the moment. She looks back up at Ron and Wade; both of them have their game faces on. Ron is in a tuxedo, and she is in a sleeveless, black dress with nylons. Wade, the plump thirteen-year-old black protégé, wears his usual turquoise t-shirt and jeans.
Kim remembers what Ron and Wade just told her.
“Drakken and Shego are evil again?” she blurts out.
Enjoy the story so far? Finish the rest on AO3! Because, uh, I don't want to post 11,000 words on Tumblr!
OMG, I love your Kim Posibke x Arkos crossover comics, they really do work perfectly for KimRon. And Penny as Wade is just perfect. Which other RWBY characters would be which KP villain? Watts as Professor Demented! Roman as Kiltagain?
Aaahhh Thank you!! 💖 it's very fun to make doodles of!
Ooh, good question! I think those work- Maybe Tyrian in place of Monkeyfist? Hazel and Mercury as Señor Senior Senior and Señor Senior Junior??? 😂 Maybe (for the purposes of the au) Adam and Ilia as Warhok and Warmonga???
also disney i love u, i love u for giving me a live action kim possible and live action shorts, but also how tf am i supposed to make a cohesive main verse that incorporates both cartoon canon and live action canon when you keep RETCONNING CARTOON CANON
Better Diplomacy Through Glorious Combat??? What’s that about? Title is intriguing!
Hahaha, I was waiting for someone to bring that one up! Better Diplomacy is a sort of... action-slash-culture-clash comedy taking place about a month or two after Graduation, in which some Lorwardian diplomats show up, declare that they need to provide restitution to Earth due to an honor code broken by Warmonga and Warhok, and insist that Earth's "champions" (ie Kim, Ron, Drakken and Shego) be involved in the process. It was actually the first Kim Possible fanfic I worked on, and while it's hit a couple of snags that have delayed its completion, there are a few bits in particular that I'm really looking forward to getting written out!
Who you think is the grate blue? I think Ron stoppable when he uses mystical monkey power he turns blue getting grate power enough to defeat warhok. Who by the way has more then likely battled way longer then Ron has.
......i know i answered this ask already, and yet here it is... must have gone down in one of my many computer crashes, which is frustrating because my reply was well-composed. ugh. technology.
anyway. i personally headcanon that it's Ron... it makes sense with how the story ends, since the Lorwardians had that prophecy and then a "great blue" being defeats them. it's not what their prophecy said as Warmonga explained it, but still, there's that connection there... plus who knows, maybe she interpreted it wrong.
i would selfishly like Drakken to be the great blue, but that makes the least logical sense. no mystical powers, just a coincidental run-in with them that started the whole thing... he also had a hand in defeating them, obviously, with his mutant plants. but Ron definitely gets the more immediate credit for the defeat, Drakken's is more secondary. because i'm sure the control ship being destroyed would have ultimately stopped the invading robots too.
a third theory that i LOVE and lean very strongly toward is my friend @split-n-splice's idea that it's Hego. this one is actually the most logical... his powers are from space, where the Lorwardians are from. and i already headcanon that the rainbow comet/meteor came from Lorwardian space so it just makes sense. space powers, space aliens... yeah my last reply to this ask was more eloquent and detailed, i can't recall what all i'd written.
Y’all, you don’t know the depth of my longstanding hatred toward the Lorwardians in Kim Possible due to them showing up with zero worldbuilding and zero charisma and expecting to be the Biggest Bads of the entire series, but I’ve just fucking realized that Kim Possible canonically takes place in the same world as Lilo & Stitch, which we know has a fairly peaceful galactic state thanks to the Council with only Hämsterviel and Gantu as the big threats the Councilwoman keeps any tabs on, and this FUCKING means that the Lorwardians are actually a goddamn joke that the Council has to shoo away from a backwater planet every now and again.
Gantu has punched Warhok in the face at least once and you cannot prove me wrong.
okay but as i’m thinking about the mcu au (and honestly how seamlessly kim possible fits into the marvel universe bless) it cracks me up to imagine the connections kim possible characters would have to marvel characters
REGARDING THE ANIMATED SERIES. I accept the vast majority of seasons one through three as well as both movies ( a sitch in time, so the drama ) as canon / relevant to my portrayal of kim. episodes that play no part in my portrayal of kim / are not acknowledged on my blog for various reasons are: the cupid effect ( s4ep4 ), grande size me ( s4ep7 ), clothes minded ( s4ep8 ), clean slate ( s4ep17 ), and larry’s birthday ( s4ep20 ). the only other change I am making is that kim has met duff killigan, professor dementor and the seniors before her freshman year / before the series, as is in line with the live action movie.
the cupid effect: kim would’ve roasted wade alive for using science to force monique to fall in love with him, and she would NEVER use the love ray device on monique for convenience just so they could move on with a mission faster.
grande size me: network mandated ep that the writers hated creating aside, kim would never fat shame ron ( or ANYONE for that matter ), even in jest.
clothes minded: kim’s materialistic attachment to designer labels vs. discount brands was addressed in season one, so it makes no sense that she’d be having a crisis over searching for her cargo pants at smarty mart. also, she would absolutely have at least two back-ups of her mission uniform. also, even if she didn’t have her mission uniform on hand, she would still figure something out. she’s been shown to put up an adequate fight in her street clothes many times, there’s no reason she’d be so easily thwarted by not having an outfit to wear to a mission.
clean slate: she’s been in love with ron since she was four, there’s no way she would forget that while remembering everything else.
larry’s birthday: everyone in the kprpc hates this episode because of how out of character everyone is written. it’s just bad. the only good thing about it is BIL.
REGARDING THE LIVE ACTION MOVIE. I adore the live action movie as a long-time fan of kim possible. this being said, from a writing standpoint I do have some issues with the plot of the movie, specifically toward the second half / end. as it stands in the main verse on my blog, kim did not readily forgive athena for betraying her until it was revealed that athena would be destroyed / was experiencing intense pain from the brain data transfer process to drakken. this was solidified when athena sacrificed herself to save kim, ron, and her family. athena does not survive. I am willing to bend this and plot arcs/aus with athena roleplayers ( and also fix the bugs with the movie writing-wise because there are a lot where athena is concerned ), but as it stands with my main verse, I am retconning athena becoming part of team possible. I love the idea of her and I love ciara, but I feel like it throws off the whole dynamic to have an extra member, especially one who is a superpowered cybertronic humanoid.
REGARDING THE LIVE ACTION SHORTS. I love all of them, but until further notice, warhok and warmonga don’t show up in kim’s life until her senior year of high school.
HOW THESE THREE THINGS FIT INTO MY MAIN VERSE. the great thing about the live action movie is that it takes place during the beginning of kim’s freshman year of high school, and the animated series kicks off during kim’s sophomore year of high school, so the two can coexist pretty seamlessly. kim still meets monique her sophomore year and they become instant bffs, and while she’s not always in on the crime fighting side of things, she’s still tight with all of team possible. my main verse will most often default to kim’s junior year of high school, but does encompass her entire high school career.
About the last ask, I don't even bring it up as a negative thing, but as a "very interesting story/concept that could get explored in the fandom, but for some reason doesn't". There are tons of fan stories about Kim feeling bad about kicking Shego in the tower and whatnot, where they explore her "guilt" (I know 99% of the time is used as ship fuel, but still). And I have yet to see a story of Ron that is similar to that I'm just saying there may be a lot of potential there
(I'll get back to the former ask when you clarify what you meant by "in the closet".)
I...don't see Kim feeling guilty about that at all??? She and Ron frequently destroyed villain lairs and just left, left Drakgo in the ocean to drown, let them crash a flaming blimp... They seemed perfectly willing to let their villains and possibly countless henchmen die without a second thought. And consider that evil smile Kim gave after watching Shego fry and the tower collapse...
Yes, I know the obvious answer is cartoon logic of everyone always survives and no one ever gets hurt. That's clearly the lens we are supposed to be viewing the show through. But that's not as fun.
That said, yeah...no, I don't see Kim feeling the least bit guilty or remorseful. And on the cartoon logic vein, we can assume that Warhok and Warmonga survived and not deal with that one either. But we know they died from the creators' statements, and again...not as fun.
But between the two? We see Ron as the more thoughtful individual who cares about his actions, thinks ahead about potential choices, reflects on the past... Fics about Ron dealing with that are out there already. None I've seen quite handle it the way I would, but they exist. And yes, I think that topic has a LOT of potential. 😁