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#yes I headcanon Jason Todd as AroAce
happyk44 · 1 month
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For the character ask- Jason Grace and Jason Todd 💌
Jason Grace
1: three facts about them from my personal headcanons:
Jason suffers from severe depersonalization and emotional disconnect/amnesia
He has chronic pain that he does not treat and ignores because he's had it so long it's become normal to him
He knows ASL
2: a reason they suck
He was not fleshed out as well as other characters - he doesn't really have a backstory and we never see him refer to his past the way the others do, even after TLH when his memories should've come back in full
3: a reason they are great
He's sees the best in people
3: a reason I relate to them 
I was definitely that kid in school was seen as a flawless overachiever
4. (what I consider to be) the top tier otp/ot3 for that character
Lol, I don't write it very much, but my preference is 100% valgrace
5. five things that never happened to that character that I believe should have happened
His arc finalized with him realizing that he wants to learn how to be his own person. He does not go back to Camp Jupiter, but he also doesn't stay at Camp Half-Blood - he just leaves to go on his own journey
He and Leo confess their feelings because, look I love aroace Leo, but also I love gay Leo who falls in love with Jason and they get married and are happy together forever and ever
I also!! Really love the idea of Jason disabling Leo as a parallel to Hera disabling Hephaestus after she threw him off Olympus. There are two options I like: 1) it happens near the end of the book, Jason blasts Leo's arm off by accident in the middle of the battle, Hera is freed and patches him up before he bleeds to death, or 2) it happens during the fight with Circe. Jason pins Leo with heavy air pressure and readies to kill him - but killing Leo goes against his base morals and as a child of Jupiter, he is bound to little else but his morals and the rule of law. So the disconnect between that and with what he's being told to do temporarily frees him of Circe's influence and he's able to deviate and severe Leo's arm off instead. Afterwards, he and Leo use a combo of fire and lightning to cauterize the wound.
I would've loved to see Jason embrace or be more of a representative of Jupiter/Zeus's law and order side of things, the way Hazel and Nico showed the two aspects of Pluto/Hades. Since the Greeks appear to be more within the realm of nature and Thalia is shown using lightning frequently, it would've been cool to have scenes showing Jason using skills outside of lightning and wind. Manipulative Jason who can turn enemies on each other, diplomatic Jason who can convince people to help him so easily. Jason being able to enforce order and calm to a chaotic situation, Jason being able to force his rules, his beliefs, his laws on people. That would've been so much fun - and also a fun way to repel him against the other characters, like Percy, who may be put off by his ability to override someone's free will
Also bloodthirsty wolf boy Jason!! Like yes I get that he wasn't at the Wolf House for that long but who cares? Give me vicious Jason who is protective of his pack, give me starving Jason who rips the flesh from your throat and swallows it whole
6. five people that character never fell in love with and why
I don't understand this question tbh - is it like. who did they fall in love with in canon but I don't think they should have, or who I think they should've fallen in love with, or what.
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Jason Todd
1: three facts about them from my personal headcanons
His white spot is due to vitilgo. Going through the pit just kind of triggered the gene, sort the same way getting a cold or the flu or severe stress can
He helped take care of Damian as a kid - I think this is canon in one of the animated series, or at least like, implied canon, but unsure about the greater comic network. As Talia was helping him recover and whatnot from the pit, he helped train Damian. He has conflicted feelings about this now, but he remains a safe space for Damian to disappear to whenever he fights with Bruce. Dick may be Dami's big bro now, but Jason was his big bro first.
Autopsy scar! I just like the idea.
2: a reason they suck
He hasn't ripped the Joker's head off yet :( Like I understand why - it has to be Bruce who kills him, it wouldn't be as comforting or satisfying and it wouldn't mean much, but like whatever, someone kill this fucking clown, I hate him
But, nah, on a serious level, I think Jason is a good character. I don't really have anything on why he's bad, other than maybe poor writing? I don't read his comics much tbh
3: a reason they are great
Shoots things and pisses off Bruce
4: a reason I relate to them
I also was an angry little nerd when I was young
5: (what I consider to be) the top tier otp/ot3 for that character
I don't really ship Jason very much, but jaydami would be my go-to because Damian is my favourite. Otherwise, I would recommend either jayroy or jaydick. Or brujay, but only because of the angst potential. I don't really care for Bruce past that, lol. Maybe brujaydick if that's a thing. Little wing getting smushed between people he opposes but also loves a lot. That's hot.
6: five things that never happened to that character that I believe should have happened
I don't have a lot of thoughts on Jason because I priortize Damian and also don't read a lot of comics (so Jason and others get left out because I prefer to read the ones with Damian. Or Duke. Or Dick. The DDD trio lol), but I do get kept up to date by my friends who do love Jason. I'm not sure what never happened to him that I would've wanted to happen to him other than like. Him not dying.
Actually, I do kind of wish they would give Jason his own team. Like I know JayRoy is popular and everyone liked the teamups with Starfire, but I like the idea of each robin sort of having their own little group - like Damian with Jon, Maya, and sometimes Suren, or Tim w/ Kon and the others whose names I don't remember, Bart, Cassie and someone else I think? And then Dick w/ the OG titans. I do get the sibling experience of being friends with your older sibling's friends because they're around all the time and you don't have anyone
I know he had Bizarro and Artemis at one point as a group? I don't know if they sort of "belonged" to anyone else first, but if they didn't, then yeah bring 'em back. Let Jason have his own people to connect with.
Also I want him to beat up Bruce and win. Just for funsies. Doesn't even have to be about anything. Just smack him around.
7: five people that character never fell in love with and why
Right so. Yeah I still don't get this question. 😂 Sorry.
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Ultimate Headcanon Tournament
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Here is the full bracket! I did the best I could to make it a proper bracket! Good luck to all of the participants!
Genderqueer Manifred von Karma (Ace Attorney) vs Gay trans man Ao Ohtori (I am Magicami)
Narrator Chara (Undertale) vs Trans male Yentl (Yentl the Yeshiva Boy)
Trans Danny Fenton (Danny Phantom) vs Captain John Hart has multiple mothers (Torchwood)
Trans Guy Gardener (DC Comics) vs Aroace Kaladin (Stormlight Archive)
Steve Rogers/Captain America likes men (Marvel Comics) vs Fletcher took Tanner’s folder when Andrew wasn’t looking (Whiplash)
Trans male Zelda/Sheik (The Legend of Zelda) vs Aroace autistic Mira (Sekko Boys)
Aroace Hunter (The Owl House) vs Dyslexic Wallabee/Numbah 4 (Codename: Kids Next Door)
ADHD Todd Chavez (BoJack Horseman) vs Trans girl Plum Puddin' (Strawberry Shortcake)
Phone Guy survived (Five Nights at Freddy's) vs Grayromantic Kaz Brekker (Six of Crows)
Transmasc MK (Lego Monkie Kid) vs Autistic Mark Grayson (Invincible)
Autistic Elle Woods (Legally Blonde) vs Mafia Town was called Mustache Town (A Hat in Time)
Bennett has eczema on his hands (Genshin Impact) vs Autistic Tobias (Animorphs)
Autistic N (Pokémon) vs Ben Tennyson forgot to remake his other cousin (Ben 10)
Mario and Peach hold no ill will towards Bowser (Super Mario) vs Autistic Reagan Ridley (Inside Job)
Autistic Zuko (Avatar: The Last Airbender) vs Affogato Cookie is part snake (Cookie Run: Kingdom)
Autistic Adora (She-Ra) vs Hank Schrader forgave Walter White before Jack Welker killed him (Breaking Bad)
Kylo Ren's full name is Ben Chewbacca Alderaan Organa Solo (Staar Wars) vs Commander Shepherd is a terrible driver (Mass Effect)
ADHD Dave (Homestuck) vs Trans male Kurapika (Hunter x Hunter)
Transfem Larry Daley (Night at the Museum) vs Trans male Mafuyu Asahina (Project Sekai)
Autistic Gregory Eddie (Abbott Elementary) vs Autistic Eddie Kaspbrak (IT)
Trans Dipper Pines (Gravity Falls) vs Autistic hyperverbal Cecil Gershwin Palmer (Welcome to Night Vale)
Juggalo Remus Sanders (Sanders Sides) vs Aroace Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece)
Autistic Izuku Midoriya (My Hero Academia) vs Autistic Keith Kogane (Voltron)
Shrek came up with his name on the spot when Donkey asked him (Shrek) vs Autistic trans man Elliott (Stardew Valley)
Autistic Peridot (Steven Universe) vs Kathryn Janeway is aroaspec, Captain Chakotay is twospirit, and they are in a QPR (Star Trek)
Nonbinary Lake (Infinity Train) vs Jason Mendoza has the highest emotional intelligence of all the characters (The Good Place)
Transfem Big Macintosh/Orchard Blossom (My Little Pony) vs Monika was following a script until she deleted herself (Doki Doki Literature Club)
Autistic trans lesbian Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Firestar and Sandstorm are queerplatonic mutual beards (Warriors)
Autistic Usagi Tsukino (Sailor Moon) vs Trans Kakashi Hatake (Naruto)
Transfem Leonardo (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles) vs Kermit caused 9/11 (Muppets)
Diabetic Sniper (Team Fortress 2) vs Gay Jousuke Higashikata (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure)
Trans woman Cinderella (Cinderella) vs Aroace Alphonse Elric (Fullmetal Alchemist)
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rainbow-universe · 2 years
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This is random but do you have any favorite aro characters in media? Or characters who give you aro vibes?
No pressure!!
Ack! Oooooh good question!
Ok so idk many canon aro characters (which is sad there needs to be more and i am finding more but alas we have not met yet) but i do know some!! as for headcanoning, honestly i need to headcanon more characters as aro lol. disclaimer,, i went around looking at other peoples headcanons and agreed with them and now i share them with you :)) but also like for these characters i just have vibes and no explanation, solely going off what headcanons i saw that made me go “oooh yes” with no solid reasoning
CANON
BOOKS/COMICS/ETC
Jughead Jones from the Archie Comics: an iconic aroace
Yelena Belova from the Marvel Comics: is canonically aroace afaik so go her, she’s fantastic
Georgia Warr from Loveless (Alice Oseman): is aroace!! 😭😭 her story devastated me in its relatability but it’s fantastic and i love her
Gwen from An Accident of Stars (Foz Meadows): an alloaro in a polyamorous relationship and has a kid. It’s canonically mentioned offhandedly but it’s NOT Her Entire Personality™️ !! Plus she’s a kickass character (And the whole book is filled with polyamory!!) i love Gwen, she’s a really cool character
HEADCANONS
BOOKS/COMICS/ETC
Garfield: i saw it. i liked it. fuck yah
Edmund Pevensie from the Chronicles of Narnia: yes. why not. yes. i saw the headcanon and just,, agreed with i.
Saiki K: haven’t watched the anime or read the manga but it’s on my list and therefore so is he. why not
Elatsoe from Elatsoe (Darcie Little Badger): canonically ace, not stated that she’s aro BUT THERE WAS A MOMENT WHEN A FRIEND OF HERS WAS LIKE “you can bring a friend or a zucchini” or something AND I SQUEED BC QPR’S FOR THE WIN !! that little mention made me really happy. anyways yah she could totally be arospec
Bruce Wayne from Batman Comics/DC: i mean,,, the fact that im pretty sure he’d never give up being Batman for anyone, like sure he’ll have relationships and w/e but like,, idk it makes sense to me
Damian Wayne from Batman Comics/DC: yes. aro or arospec Damian just makes sense for some reason. i would also go as far as saying arospec Jason Todd as well ….
Bakugou Katsuki from My Hero Academia: aspec Bakugou just,, i love aspec Bakugou. it just makes sense to me. and i love it.
Todoroki Shouto from My Hero Academia: yes. he just has them aro/arospec vibes tbh
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MOVIES/SHOWS/TV/ETC
Natasha Romanoff from the MCU: ive heard this before and i agree w aro or arospec Natasha. just yes.
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Bruce Banner from the MCU: yes. not to mention the Hulk is green 👀 we love aro colours (and his purple shirts?? aroACE vibes !! 👀)
Loki from the MCU: absolutely. have y’all seen the amount of green he wears? and just his vibes. yes.
Tony Stark from the MCU: ya know now that im thinking about it, he’s got aro vibes.
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The Doctor from Doctor Who: yes. never watched Doctor Who but i did read that one tumblr post about aro characters being passionate about their interests and i loved the headcanons from it so The Doctor makes the list
Enjorlas from Les Misérables: from that same post so yes
Newt Geiszler from Pacific Rim: again the same post, and yes i see it (kaiju!!)
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Sherlock Holmes: as much as i love Johlock as a ship, aro or arospec Sherlock just Makes Sense™️ (and can still work with Johnlock heh)
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Elsa from Frozen: aroace or wlw (or both 👀)
Merida from Brave: yes. totally aro. i love her.
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Milo Thatch from Atlantis: The Lost Empire: from that one post lol. (and like,,, yes. yes.)
Maleficent from Sleeping Beauty: aroace icon. (we love villainous aroace’s lol /just as genuine as sarcastic) all that green and purple?? yessssssssss
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Hiro Hamada from Big Hero 6: (i need to rewatch this movie lol) i saw headcanons for it and immediately agreed. i love aroace Hiro. it makes sense to me
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Castiel and Dean Winchester from Supernatural: ya know, arospec Cas and arospec Dean just seem to make sense to me. idk why couldn’t tell ya but it does
Luke Skywalker & Rey from Star Wars: they just have aro vibes. even if Rey’s in a polycule w Finn and Poe, she’s still aro or arospec imo
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arrowpunk · 2 years
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I’ve been thinking a lot about Pride Month lately and what that means for me as a Queer Christian, and every other June before this one I haven’t felt comfortable enough in my queerness+faith to really be that open about it or celebrate much or just take joy in the fact that I am both of these things which to a lot of the world seem so incredibly contradictory. I’ve got through a hell of a lot in the past couple of years and I like to think that’s made me a better person lol. It certainly has made me a lot more comfortable with my queerness and I’ve gotten to a place where, at least online, and with friends, I can be open about who I am, and I can Enjoy being who I am.
Being Queer doesn’t make me any less of a Christian, and being a Christian doesn’t make me any less Queer.
So I guess I just wanted to say Happy Pride Month everyone! And an especially happy Pride Month to all those people out there who helped me figure all this out, I really appreciate having such a wonderful, sweet, supportive group of friends.
#ramblings of an arrow#also yeah I changed my icon#Arrow can have a little bit of celebrating as a treat#yes I headcanon Jason Todd as AroAce#Why? Because he's my favorite and I love him#and also because it just makes sense in my head#annnnd because there's not enough like... angry aroaces out there...#aroaces are usually stereotyped as sweet and naive and I am neither of those things and I relate Heavily to Mr. Jason Todd#so uhhh yeah#not that it like is super important to his character or anything but this will just live happily in my head#but uhhh back on the actual topic#big thanks to Batty my dearest friend and life partner for sticking with me through all of this#big thanks to Hobbs for helping me figure out that perhaps that group that was so rigid about things like this#wasn't a very healthy place to be#big thanks to Else and Lucy and Liza for being such good friends and having a group of ace friends has been so wonderful#big thanks to Chloe for just being like all around the frickin' best I love playfully flirting with you it's very fun#BIG thanks to my new church family that has been so very loving and supportive and easily the best church I have ever attended#I never thought I'd find a church like this#big thanks to Jayy I know we don't like talk much at all but like ilu bro and also ur the one who introduced me to the side b groupchat#which was very formative#also thank u to uhhhh anyone I missed because I'm certain that I missed some important people and it's not that i don't love you#it is simply that I forget so much all the time
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so from what I've gathered you're completely down for aroace jason todd, but what about... biromantic asexual jason? like, i don't know if it's just me?
hm. it's not just you babe, biromantic asexual jason sounds pretty dope. i'll admit, i am not all that knowledgeable about various sexualities, so i apologize if i accidentally say something a little untoward. biromantic asexual seems fairly self-explanatory, though.
jason is almost definitely ace, going based off canon. there's a couple metas and collections of comic panels out there compiling lists of times when jason implied or straight-up said he was uninterested in any and all sexual intimacy. some of it is just lobdell trying vv hard to create a "so different yet so similar" dynamic between roy and jason, but most of it is situations where i find myself going "yeaaa i noticed that too jason does indeed seem very ace"
as for him being biromantic? i can sure can imagine it. the problem is that i haven't actually seen a canon romantic interest for jason that i like. this is most likely because i'm not very big jason fan, and i'm certainly not an expert in his love interests or people he had chemistry with. rhato was entirely ooc for almost everyone, but definitively roy and kori, and while i do indulge in some jayroy every now and then, at the end of the day they've always been dick's romantic interests to me. jason also had a thing with artemis, but that relationship always seemed more platonic than romantic to me. barbara doesn't fucking count. anyway, if we do end up getting another love interest for jason, then yes i can definitely see him being biromantic!
but ofc everybody has their different headcanons, and different characterizations they've built up around those headcanons. i'm a little more partial towards aroace jason, but like if you ever came up with a series biromantic asexual jason hcs or a fic, then drop me a line, i'd love to read it!
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