bluejay0715

[bluejay0715]

Thank youuuu

I wanted to draw her sort of giving wine mom energy, but since with coffee instead because my girl definitely has a caffeine addiction and no one is convincing me otherwise

Fellow Agatha appreciators come in here and get your juice

I felt a little shy about posting this but I figured why not

[bluejay0715]

Hello my friends on Tumblr,

Unfortunately, my previous campaign was shut down because some people were receiving the donations and I was robbed. I lost the support I desperately needed.

But the suffering continues, and the pain grows every day… So I’ve launched a new campaign, and I truly hope you can stand by me once again.

🔗 Here is the link to my new campaign (For proof, the link to the old, closed campaign is still on my page)

Every share, every donation, every word of support… means the world to me and my family.

Please, share my campaign and help me once more.

You can donate as little as $1 via PayPal or $5 via Chuffed. 🙏💙

vetted here

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URGENT!! FUNDS NEEDED TODAY TO SAVE A BABY!!

I'm so sorry. I have to ask you for help. I am in tears and don't know what to do. Raneen and Ahmed, @life-22, are my friends. They live in Gaza. Their baby Mohammed has cancer; we urgently need $900 before the end of the week to pay for his life-saving surgeries. Please donate to help the baby live!!

Their account is vetted by @90-ghost , @gazavetters (#576) , and @bilal-salah0. Gofundme takes too long, you can dm @life-22 if you want to confirm that paypal goes to them. Please help.

When you donate, please don't mention Raneen or Ahmed Hammad in the paypal message. PayPal is racially profiling and it is retaining all money that accompanies those names. PLEASE HELP MY FRIENDS SURVIVE THIS INJUSTICE!!

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Fellow Agatha appreciators come in here and get your juice

I felt a little shy about posting this but I figured why not

[bluejay0715]

Nour ( @noor508 ) is the father of two children. His youngest was born during the genocide and is only a few months old. Nour and his wife, Dina, have been struggling to provide the care and nutrition their baby needs. Diapers, formula, and baby food are in limited supply and can only be bought at exorbitant prices.

His family created a gofundme to raise the money they'd need to help with food and baby supplies, but gofundme paused the transfers and eventually shut down their campaign. Since then, Nour has been collecting funds through Andrea's (@/roadimusprime) paypal so Andrea can transfer the funds to Nour's bank account.

Nour's family lost a lot of the donations they received when their fundraiser was terminated. Since switching to paypal, donations have been coming in slower than before. Nour, Dina, and their children are barely scraping by.

Please donate if you have the means and share to help Nour's campaign reach more people.

Nour's campaign was previously shared by 90-ghost, but the link doesn't work because Tumblr deleted Nour's old account. However, you can still view the reblog on the way back machine here. I have also added a screenshot of the reblog from the internet archive below the cut

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[bluejay0715]

I am Mahmoud Hamam. Most of those in this application have heard my name or know me because I frequently publish about my family in Gaza, but now I will explain to you completely who I am.

About Mahmoud: A 21-year-old engineering student from Gaza. I am ambitious and passionate. I love my education and my work. I have a beautiful, conservative, and friendly family.

I was working as a freelancer before October 7th, but with the war I lost my job and left my home heading to the southern Gaza Strip. I lived the worst months of my life searching for my life between transporting water, feeding my family and escaping death. I wasted two years of my life without a goal, just escaping death. I got my expenses and my family’s expenses from your donations, but now I am searching for my dream again in these circumstances.

I created the Isnad initiative, which aims to help students in Gaza who lost their dreams, just like me! Today I am proud to have helped more than 70 students complete their education!! But today! I work in the initiative for 6 hours a day, but I can't stand on my feet after 3 hours. Why? Because famine killed us in Gaza. I feel nauseous quickly and I can't complete my day unless I get the nutritional supplement designated for children!! Can you imagine that?

Famine has filled the sector and prices are very high. My campaign has $30,000. I have been collecting this amount for two years and only $5,000 is left to reach my goal. I am really exhausted and hungry. The only thing left for me is you guys. Please allocate $10 for me! To give up some sweets and cigarettes today in exchange for providing me with some bread, is that possible?

Fundraiser || PayPal || Vetting 1 || Vetting 2

This is the time to show your sympathy for Gaza. Famine is deadly.

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@virovac @sayruq @irhabiya @sar-soor

[bluejay0715]

*sobs*

The AMOUNT of jaw-dropping novel worthy Ruby Gillman fics there are on ao3 that got abandoned mid-way through has me on my knees WEEPING, LIKE PLEASE I NEED SUSTENANCE I'M A STARVING BRITISH VICTORIAN CHILD WITH A HYPERFIXATION AND WRITER'S BLOCK FEED ME PLEASEEEEEEGJASDKFM;SDF

[bluejay0715]

‼️This is how we die in front of you‼️

Harsh scenes of the killing of the fourth estate on camera

550 days since the beginning of the war on Gaza, more than 150,000 martyrs, wounded, and missing under the rubble, and the world stands silent.

I swear to God and the heavenly books that we are being subjected to a war of genocide by Israel. By God, if a natural reserve for animals were exposed to what we are being exposed to, the world would rise up and intervene to solve the problem.

We are human beings, oh human beings, have mercy on us and rise up and demonstrate for us

Please share and donate wherever you can.

[bluejay0715]

Watch the famine we are living in in Gaza. The price of flour is 500 euros. Please help me escape the famine

Donation link

https://gofund.me/2b349252

Stop the war of extermination🇵🇸

[bluejay0715]

Urgent Request!

Our precious, traumatized brother Moneer @lion-5 (19), his little sister Sham (4), and their family need water and other necessities.

Donors have been giving sacrificially out of deep love for the Palestinian people and a determination to never give up on them, but they need more donors.

Let us seek creative solutions to hydrate, feed, clothe, shelter, soothe, and advocate for our dear friends, who would do anything to help us if the situation were reversed.

Many hands make light work, all is not lost, and we are making a difference.

We love you, Moneer, Sham, and family. 🫂

Donate:

Vetting: GazaVetters #8

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Fundraisers in Need of Donators

@farah322

Farah's family is trying to escape from Gaza to Egypt and they need any help they can get. Their family consists of nine members, and costs for leaving are high ($5,000 per adult and $2,500 per child). If you're able, please do what you can, whether by donating yourself or spreading the word.

Here is a link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/1ac732f0

@fatenyusef12

Faten's family is also trying to get to Egypt and their campaign is going unfortunately slow. Faten has a family of five, including herself and her husband Ahmed @ahmedaboloay, and their three children who are all under 7 years old. They've only reached $18,420 out of $50,000, and Ahmed can no longer provide for them due to the war. To make things worse, Ahmed is also an amputee and their children are developing skin conditions from lack of hygiene care and water. If you can, please help them reach their goal either by donating or spreading the word.

Here's a link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/b4d9068c

@ameeraayman2

Ameera (sorry if I spelt your name wrong) and their family's tent was burned down by Israeli soldiers at Al-Aqsa hospital and they were forced to move to Al-Nusierat. Ameera's foot was injured and their father needs an urgent operation. They've only reached €1,896/€60,000 as of November 7th, and desperately need donations. If you can, please help them reach their goai.

Here's a link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/93f3480d

@abo-nasr

Mohammad and his family desperately need support. He has a broken leg. His wife, Yasmin, is battling cancer, and needs treatment. They have two children under their care that they are likely struggling to care for. They have to live in temporary camps with limited resources, and they need help. If you are able, please do what you can to help them.

Here's a link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/e94f48a3

@hane789

Hani and his family are struggling greatly in this war, and need support. Hani's leg was severely injured and he cannot provide for his wife Noor and their three children. Their fourth child died at birth due to lack of nutrition - they have little food, no clean water, and no electricity. If you can, please do what you're able to help them get out of Gaza.

Here's a link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/37d18e4d

@alamoudi-ghazi

Ghazi had a lovely home and a lovely garden full of memories before all of this started. Now it's all gone, and he and his family need our help to survive. He's only reached 5% of his goal (3,692€/70,000€). Please support them in any way you are able. I'm sorry I didn't respond sooner.

Here's a link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/3649a61d

@myceliacrochet3

This isn't the account of the family, but it is the one organizing the fundraiser. The family, Akram, Neveen, and their four children of whom are all under the age of 13. They are seperated from Akram, who went to Palestine for treatment as he's deaf. All of them need help, so they can survive and reunite with each other. No family deserves to be seperated, especially not in such an atrocity. They've only reached 11% of their goal. Please support them if you can. And I'm sorry I didn't respond sooner.

Here's a link to their gofundme: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-nevins-family-in-gaza?attribution_id=sl:a950536e-2ffb-4415-9315-aab4d44b5fff&utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link

@aisha20586

Aisha and her husband, as well as their eight children, need help. They're struggling to find food and shelter, and they've lost their home. Any donations would help, so if you have a dollar to spare, you could be saving lives. If you can't donate, you can help by spreading awareness. Sorry I did not respond to you sooner.

@farahkamal

Farah is a 21 y/o medical student and she has a family of five, and they are struggling. They lost their home, and their source of income. They have no money and are homeless. They were displaced and their clothes and belongings were taken from them, as well as their father. Being separated from one of your parents is a horrible pain I wouldn't wish on anyone. Farah's brother is in high school and they can't afford books for him, and Farah herself can't continue her studies in the Faculty of Medicine. Their mother undergoes chronic diseases and her eyesight has massively deteriorated, and they can't afford treatment. They have no clean food or water, and the costs of leaving Gaza are $7,000 per person. They need help to sustain themselves and afford treatment and essentials. They also need to reach $28,000 so they can leave when the Rafah Crossing is opened. If you have the means, please donate and/or spread awareness.

Link to their gofundme: https://www.gofundme.com/f/urgent-relief-for-farah-kamals-displaced-family

@cfrankq

The LGBTQ+ Community in Sudan faces relentless discrimination. They are forced to sleep outside and are excluded from shelter for their sexual/gender orientation. Anyone who reads this, please help in any way you can.

Link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/bc71607a

@esamadnan

Esam and Sahar are a couple that lost their home that they had only had for a few days, and their dreams were shattered. Now they struggle to make it day by day - Esam lost his job as a lawyer and now has no source of income. If you can spare some money, even just a little, it could really help them.

Link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/fc848a56

I am so sorry to everyone that I can't donate myself. My funds are very limited and my parents have control over my bank account, and they would never let me donate out of fear of potential scams. I'm doing my best to help by spreading awareness - To anyone who sees this, I ask you do the same. Don't stay silent. Silence kills. All eyes on Palestine, Sudan, Libya, Lebanon, and everywhere else that needs help. There are so many people in need of help that I can't include them all on the post, but I will be rebloging every fundraiser I see and linking it to this post.

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The Accident || MCSM Animation

Weuf, this took a WHILE. A couple days, at least, and the extortion process with capcut was a nightmare, but WORTH IT. I'm actually really proud of this.

Anyways, I just felt like making some Jesse and Reuben angst, with a sprinkle of Jesstra if you squint. I also posted this to YouTube under my account ZOMB13_CR0W but it nuked the quality in the microwave so I'm also posting it here.

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Tomorrow is Eid Al Adha

There’s nothing left here for us. We urgently need to leave Gaza 🙏🙏 Please help us to get out.

We haven’t seen real food for over two months. Most of what we eat is just lentils.

A single bag of flour now costs around $400 (1,500 shekels), and there’s a 40% fee on almost anything we try to buy or receive.

Life here has become extremely expensive and unbearable.

Every dollar you donate truly goes toward our daily basic needs — food, water, and survival.

We are afraid to go to the so-called “humanitarian aid distribution areas.”

We fear we won’t come back alive if we go. We would be easy targets for the Israeli army.

If you don’t want to see us being killed here, please donate and share 🙏🥺

Donation link

7# Verified By @bilal-sala7 ✅

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The voices are strong. My keyboard is calling me. I'm so fucking tempted to write this.

AU - Kya and Hakoda are enjoying a random Tuesday afternoon when they receive a call that Ursa and Ozai were in a car accident. But that wasn’t the end of the news. The end of it was the caller telling the couple that Ursa and Ozai named them as Zuko, Azula and Kiyi’s guardians in case something happened. Overnight, Kya and Hakoda go from having two kids to five.

[bluejay0715]

Oomph

Finally watched The Wild Robot now that it's on Netflix. That was a sucker punch to the fucking gut. Think I nearly cried like 5 times before the end got me to shed some tears. AUGHGHGHGHFPSADONSADFSDF

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Fundraisers in Need of Donators

@farah322

Farah's family is trying to escape from Gaza to Egypt and they need any help they can get. Their family consists of nine members, and costs for leaving are high ($5,000 per adult and $2,500 per child). If you're able, please do what you can, whether by donating yourself or spreading the word.

Here is a link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/1ac732f0

@fatenyusef12

Faten's family is also trying to get to Egypt and their campaign is going unfortunately slow. Faten has a family of five, including herself and her husband Ahmed @ahmedaboloay, and their three children who are all under 7 years old. They've only reached $18,420 out of $50,000, and Ahmed can no longer provide for them due to the war. To make things worse, Ahmed is also an amputee and their children are developing skin conditions from lack of hygiene care and water. If you can, please help them reach their goal either by donating or spreading the word.

Here's a link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/b4d9068c

@ameeraayman2

Ameera (sorry if I spelt your name wrong) and their family's tent was burned down by Israeli soldiers at Al-Aqsa hospital and they were forced to move to Al-Nusierat. Ameera's foot was injured and their father needs an urgent operation. They've only reached €1,896/€60,000 as of November 7th, and desperately need donations. If you can, please help them reach their goai.

Here's a link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/93f3480d

@abo-nasr

Mohammad and his family desperately need support. He has a broken leg. His wife, Yasmin, is battling cancer, and needs treatment. They have two children under their care that they are likely struggling to care for. They have to live in temporary camps with limited resources, and they need help. If you are able, please do what you can to help them.

Here's a link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/e94f48a3

@hane789

Hani and his family are struggling greatly in this war, and need support. Hani's leg was severely injured and he cannot provide for his wife Noor and their three children. Their fourth child died at birth due to lack of nutrition - they have little food, no clean water, and no electricity. If you can, please do what you're able to help them get out of Gaza.

Here's a link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/37d18e4d

@alamoudi-ghazi

Ghazi had a lovely home and a lovely garden full of memories before all of this started. Now it's all gone, and he and his family need our help to survive. He's only reached 5% of his goal (3,692€/70,000€). Please support them in any way you are able. I'm sorry I didn't respond sooner.

Here's a link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/3649a61d

@myceliacrochet3

This isn't the account of the family, but it is the one organizing the fundraiser. The family, Akram, Neveen, and their four children of whom are all under the age of 13. They are seperated from Akram, who went to Palestine for treatment as he's deaf. All of them need help, so they can survive and reunite with each other. No family deserves to be seperated, especially not in such an atrocity. They've only reached 11% of their goal. Please support them if you can. And I'm sorry I didn't respond sooner.

Here's a link to their gofundme: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-nevins-family-in-gaza?attribution_id=sl:a950536e-2ffb-4415-9315-aab4d44b5fff&utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link

@aisha20586

Aisha and her husband, as well as their eight children, need help. They're struggling to find food and shelter, and they've lost their home. Any donations would help, so if you have a dollar to spare, you could be saving lives. If you can't donate, you can help by spreading awareness. Sorry I did not respond to you sooner.

@farahkamal

Farah is a 21 y/o medical student and she has a family of five, and they are struggling. They lost their home, and their source of income. They have no money and are homeless. They were displaced and their clothes and belongings were taken from them, as well as their father. Being separated from one of your parents is a horrible pain I wouldn't wish on anyone. Farah's brother is in high school and they can't afford books for him, and Farah herself can't continue her studies in the Faculty of Medicine. Their mother undergoes chronic diseases and her eyesight has massively deteriorated, and they can't afford treatment. They have no clean food or water, and the costs of leaving Gaza are $7,000 per person. They need help to sustain themselves and afford treatment and essentials. They also need to reach $28,000 so they can leave when the Rafah Crossing is opened. If you have the means, please donate and/or spread awareness.

Link to their gofundme: https://www.gofundme.com/f/urgent-relief-for-farah-kamals-displaced-family

@cfrankq

The LGBTQ+ Community in Sudan faces relentless discrimination. They are forced to sleep outside and are excluded from shelter for their sexual/gender orientation. Anyone who reads this, please help in any way you can.

Link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/bc71607a

@esamadnan

Esam and Sahar are a couple that lost their home that they had only had for a few days, and their dreams were shattered. Now they struggle to make it day by day - Esam lost his job as a lawyer and now has no source of income. If you can spare some money, even just a little, it could really help them.

Link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/fc848a56

I am so sorry to everyone that I can't donate myself. My funds are very limited and my parents have control over my bank account, and they would never let me donate out of fear of potential scams. I'm doing my best to help by spreading awareness - To anyone who sees this, I ask you do the same. Don't stay silent. Silence kills. All eyes on Palestine, Sudan, Libya, Lebanon, and everywhere else that needs help. There are so many people in need of help that I can't include them all on the post, but I will be rebloging every fundraiser I see and linking it to this post.

[bluejay0715]

Fundraisers in Need of Donators

@farah322

Farah's family is trying to escape from Gaza to Egypt and they need any help they can get. Their family consists of nine members, and costs for leaving are high ($5,000 per adult and $2,500 per child). If you're able, please do what you can, whether by donating yourself or spreading the word.

Here is a link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/1ac732f0

@fatenyusef12

Faten's family is also trying to get to Egypt and their campaign is going unfortunately slow. Faten has a family of five, including herself and her husband Ahmed @ahmedaboloay, and their three children who are all under 7 years old. They've only reached $18,420 out of $50,000, and Ahmed can no longer provide for them due to the war. To make things worse, Ahmed is also an amputee and their children are developing skin conditions from lack of hygiene care and water. If you can, please help them reach their goal either by donating or spreading the word.

Here's a link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/b4d9068c

@ameeraayman2

Ameera (sorry if I spelt your name wrong) and their family's tent was burned down by Israeli soldiers at Al-Aqsa hospital and they were forced to move to Al-Nusierat. Ameera's foot was injured and their father needs an urgent operation. They've only reached €1,896/€60,000 as of November 7th, and desperately need donations. If you can, please help them reach their goai.

Here's a link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/93f3480d

@abo-nasr

Mohammad and his family desperately need support. He has a broken leg. His wife, Yasmin, is battling cancer, and needs treatment. They have two children under their care that they are likely struggling to care for. They have to live in temporary camps with limited resources, and they need help. If you are able, please do what you can to help them.

Here's a link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/e94f48a3

@hane789

Hani and his family are struggling greatly in this war, and need support. Hani's leg was severely injured and he cannot provide for his wife Noor and their three children. Their fourth child died at birth due to lack of nutrition - they have little food, no clean water, and no electricity. If you can, please do what you're able to help them get out of Gaza.

Here's a link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/37d18e4d

@alamoudi-ghazi

Ghazi had a lovely home and a lovely garden full of memories before all of this started. Now it's all gone, and he and his family need our help to survive. He's only reached 5% of his goal (3,692€/70,000€). Please support them in any way you are able. I'm sorry I didn't respond sooner.

Here's a link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/3649a61d

@myceliacrochet3

This isn't the account of the family, but it is the one organizing the fundraiser. The family, Akram, Neveen, and their four children of whom are all under the age of 13. They are seperated from Akram, who went to Palestine for treatment as he's deaf. All of them need help, so they can survive and reunite with each other. No family deserves to be seperated, especially not in such an atrocity. They've only reached 11% of their goal. Please support them if you can. And I'm sorry I didn't respond sooner.

Here's a link to their gofundme: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-nevins-family-in-gaza?attribution_id=sl:a950536e-2ffb-4415-9315-aab4d44b5fff&utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link

@aisha20586

Aisha and her husband, as well as their eight children, need help. They're struggling to find food and shelter, and they've lost their home. Any donations would help, so if you have a dollar to spare, you could be saving lives. If you can't donate, you can help by spreading awareness. Sorry I did not respond to you sooner.

@farahkamal

Farah is a 21 y/o medical student and she has a family of five, and they are struggling. They lost their home, and their source of income. They have no money and are homeless. They were displaced and their clothes and belongings were taken from them, as well as their father. Being separated from one of your parents is a horrible pain I wouldn't wish on anyone. Farah's brother is in high school and they can't afford books for him, and Farah herself can't continue her studies in the Faculty of Medicine. Their mother undergoes chronic diseases and her eyesight has massively deteriorated, and they can't afford treatment. They have no clean food or water, and the costs of leaving Gaza are $7,000 per person. They need help to sustain themselves and afford treatment and essentials. They also need to reach $28,000 so they can leave when the Rafah Crossing is opened. If you have the means, please donate and/or spread awareness.

Link to their gofundme: https://www.gofundme.com/f/urgent-relief-for-farah-kamals-displaced-family

@cfrankq

The LGBTQ+ Community in Sudan faces relentless discrimination. They are forced to sleep outside and are excluded from shelter for their sexual/gender orientation. Anyone who reads this, please help in any way you can.

Link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/bc71607a

@esamadnan

Esam and Sahar are a couple that lost their home that they had only had for a few days, and their dreams were shattered. Now they struggle to make it day by day - Esam lost his job as a lawyer and now has no source of income. If you can spare some money, even just a little, it could really help them.

Link to their gofundme: https://gofund.me/fc848a56

I am so sorry to everyone that I can't donate myself. My funds are very limited and my parents have control over my bank account, and they would never let me donate out of fear of potential scams. I'm doing my best to help by spreading awareness - To anyone who sees this, I ask you do the same. Don't stay silent. Silence kills. All eyes on Palestine, Sudan, Libya, Lebanon, and everywhere else that needs help. There are so many people in need of help that I can't include them all on the post, but I will be rebloging every fundraiser I see and linking it to this post.