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helluva-shit-show · 7 months
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The incident that occurred with the hellaverse fan known to us as "Shay" is still on my mind, and while I don't wish to interact with the media anymore, I do want to say something to both sides of the hellaverse community, but especially the critical community.
Our words have the power to do the exact same thing that occurred within the shipping communities of the fandom. Please do not forget to be kind while interacting with others. Engaging with any part of the hellaverse community should be a conversation or a respectful debate at most. It should not be a WWE cage fight where you're trying to humiliate your "opponent".
Criticals can get very passionate, I would know, I still am, though I made my choice to walk away. That's not an excuse to talk down to or bully anyone. Try to give people online a little benefit of the doubt. Be patient with people you don't agree with. Don't let your personal pain, irritation, or anger speak for you. If you can't keep things respectful in that moment, walk away from the conversation.
Shay's loss was felt by every part of the fandom. Not necessarily every person within, but you all know there are a lot of people in each sect as heartbroken as you might be feeling right now. Shippers, antis, criticals, regular fans, super fans, no one wanted this.
Nothing can undo what has been done already, but we can choose kindness and patience going forward. We can do that for Shay. Thank you for taking a moment to read this, please keep yourselves safe.
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helluva-shit-show · 7 months
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Reading this and the chats was so viscerally heartbreaking. I don't have words. I am so deeply sorry for the family's loss and the friends'.
I hope their soul is resting in a safe place and that they know nothing but peace now. They did not deserve this.
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Bad news, guys.
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helluva-shit-show · 9 months
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I’m sorry if I misunderstood the criticisms of ace representation in hh. I thought I was defending it and I do care for good ace/aro representation in media. I just heard things and I wanted to help.
Thank you for your post. Sorry bothering you.
You're good anon, don't worry. Like I said in the post, there are definitely good arguments for Alastor being bad asexual representation. The ones that target his appearance were just upsetting, because again, aces can and do look like anyone else.
Also I love dissecting characters and shows with people, and seeing others' perspectives, you were no bother at all.
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helluva-shit-show · 10 months
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I'm not back, but I still keep up with the crit tags because my issue was and will always be with Medrano herself, not the community surrounding Helluva and Hazbin.
That said, I've been seeing a couple of posts talking a little about Alastor and his sexuality or lack there of that have, uh, been giving me "the ick" a little bit.
A little about myself, I am asexual, and for probably a third of my life, I was pretty severely sex-repulsed. Like, "got nauseous in highschool sex-ed and had to go home early" sex-repulsed. Even so, I still enjoyed dressing up in cute shit, I still liked dresses that accentuated my figure, I still enjoyed getting my nails done now and then, or dying my hair, or doing cute makeup once in a while. On the flip side of that, I didn't have the highest self-confidence or self-love in my younger years, and took a lot of comfort and found a strange safe place with horror themed make-up while working at haunted houses during spooky month. I could find comfort in looking conventionally cute sometimes and I could find comfort in looking grotesquely in-human at other times.
And while I don't think Alastor is "great" representation for asexuals, I also don't find him wildly offensive for being a "tumblr sexy-man".
Like...what are you guys trying to imply with those comments? That aces aren't allowed to have attractive appearances? Because again, I love looking good, for myself. I like my image when my hair looks particularly cute today. My self image, how I enjoy dressing up the meat cage that holds my soul, has nothing to do with my sexuality. I also don't really understand the part about him being a sociopathic cannibal being bad ace rep in the context of a show universe full of murders, sex-pests, outright rapists, drug-addicts, thieves, kidnappers, ect. Like. Is Charlie bad lesbian representation solely for being the daughter of Lucifer himself? Is Moxxie bad bi representation solely for being a mercenary for hire?
I'm not saying anyone in either of the shows is "great" or even "good" LGBT+ representation, I just find some of the recent arguments coming up in the crit tags for certain characters being "horrible" representation to be a little bit...ick.
Because there are definitely good arguments for why Alastor is shitty ace representation, one being how he treated Vaggie during his song. I don't give a fuck what sexist time period he crawled out of, an asexual character was not the one you should have written changing someone's outfit against their will and slapping that person's ass without consent. Believe me when I tell you, every asexual person knows how fuckin shitty it feels to be sexualized against their will.
But for simply being designed like a twiggy man who likes suits and has cute tiny deer antlers and fluffy deer ears? Nah. Git that shit outta here. Aces can enjoy a cute fit just like anyone else, it doesn't have anything to do with our sexuality.
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helluva-shit-show · 10 months
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Gonna be walking away from the Hellaverse. After the bullshit that happened with Valentino/his voice actor and taking a hard look at why the atmosphere of these two shows are the way they are, I can't interact with this media anymore.
I don't think you're a shitty person if you like Valentino or Stolas. I think you're a shitty person if you continually write rapists as "quirky, funny, hot" or as "tragic, sad, hurt, needed it for comfort". I think if you, the media creator, have to repeatedly say, "technically, it's consensual," I think you've already lost the argument.
Consent is not a kink. Consent is not a fetish. It is not an "option" you can choose to uncheck in a sexual relationship. If you don't have emphatic consent from your sex partner, then that is rape.
If you (Valentino) physically forced your partner, that is rape. If you (Stolas) extorted, coerced, or guilted your partner, that is rape. If you (Verosika and succubi / incubi) had to use external agents to alter your partners ability to make a clear headed choice, that is rape. If you (Blitz) engaged in sexual contact under false pretenses, that is rape.
It's actual canon rape, over and over again, character after character, and it never gets called out in show. It never earns the consequences it should. It's not funny, it's not cute, it's not kinky or hot or sexy. And Ozzy's piss-poor 18 second clip doesn't erase any of it.
It's normalized in the show and it serves no purpose, it's not trying to make some bold statement about or for victims. It's not some grandiose satirical comment on anything.
Again, I don't think less of fans for having their favorite character or characters. I don't think you're a bad person for liking the show. I will probably still watch the critical tag when new episodes drop. I'll leave all my posts up, I'm not deleting the blog, but I can't personally contribute to the fandom anymore. Not while Vivienne Medrano is the one creating the canon. I'm not wasting my breath or time on her vile trash.
And I know tumblr has been a far more constructive and accepting place for show criticism than other places online. I have seen some amazing takes, re-write ideas, fan-comics, character re-designs, theories and analyses here. Y'all are amazing, and this is not a critique on any of you, y'all keep doing you. Hope you guys continue to flourish, and I'm gonna try to do the same in spaces that make me happy.
...like TADC :)
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helluva-shit-show · 10 months
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Certain types of reptiles and birds can also transition naturally on their own! For instance, I recently learned chickens can do this!
Don't even get me started on plants and fungi!
Not to mention humans can be born naturally intersex and/or producing both male and female gametes!
Natural biology of Earth's inhabitants is far more messy, complex, and beautiful than some people are willing to give it credit for, and it shouldn't be butchered and twisted to fit a rigid narrative to justify policing what others can choose to do with their own bodies.
"Homosexuality is unnatural!"
How many species on earth display homosexuality: 1,500
How many species on earth display homophobia: 1 (ours).
How many species on earth are transgender: many fish, insects, female hyenas have psudeo dicks.
How many species on earth are transphobic: again, one. Ours.
Therefore, homophobia and transphobia are unnatural. Checkmate, conservatives.
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I'm gonna be petty and cynical on this one, Moxxie is Medrano's secret menu option for her favorite characters to carry out abhorrent behaviors on. It doesn't count if it's Moxxie.
Stalking Moxxie? Doesn't count. Sexually harassing Moxxie? Doesn't count. Body shaming Moxxie? Doesn't count. Any insults, physical abuse, homophobia, sexual harassment or abuse, if it's directed at Moxxie by one of Medrano's "uwu precious bby bois" or in the case of her horny bait cash cows like Loona or Verosika, it doesn't count.
(At the end of the Mammon episode, when Flitzodeus are driving in the limo)
Blitz: Oh, btw, Verosika r*ped Mox.
Ozzie: She did WHAT?!
Fizz*trying to keep Oz from growing giant in the limo*: Hold on! When you say that, do you mean like consensual role-play or...?
Blitz: Nope. Legit noncon. Not even the role-playing noncon.
Ozzie: That littl*pulling out his phone*I swear to Lust I give these Sucubi ONE FRICKING RULE and THEY PULL THIS SHIT-
(It ends with Verosika and her click getting fired, because we stan Ozzie being a consent abiding king.)
I mean, technically they assaulted him. Same basic issue though, still read this in all their voices, still laughed.
Also, come to think of it, Ozzie had no problem pawing Moxxie and shoving his toe in his crotch. But sure, Viv, Ozzie's Mr. Enthusiastic Consent and respectful in all things.
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helluva-shit-show · 10 months
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Op you really were that last little turn of the lightbulb needed for me.
It's for tweens/teens, except Medrano wanted cussing, violence, and unapologetically raunchy sex jokes.
Honestly, Steven Universe and Steven Universe Future, a show tailored for kids, tweens, and teens, handled some heavy topics with far more maturity and cohesiveness than helluva or hazbin could ever dream of having.
Genocide, racism allegories, classism, abuses of different kinds, child abuse, childhood PTSD, trauma, the effects of putting too much on a child, abandonment, and that's just off the top of my head.
There was even a character we were supposed to view as "one of the good guys" who openly promoted murder as morally acceptable. And to be honest, they didn't really shove it down your throat that she was 100% wrong for thinking the way she did.
Same for a show like Avatar the Last Airbender.
And all without needing to be remotely "edgy" to speak to older audiences.
I don't think it's inherently wrong to want your show to be "edgy" or to have an "edgy" tone, it's just really upsetting to, as an adult, see incredibly heavy topics get so egregiously mishandled, and get whiplashed back and forth on how serious we're supposed to take anything in the show.
Honestly I think the reason a lot of people have a problem with helluva boss (and hazbin hotel) is because the show seems to not understand its target audience
Helluva boss is SAID to be aimed at adults (young adults if we're being percise) however it's written as a kids show. Remove swears and make stuff like sex and drugs vague and boom - nice pitch for Cartoon network or smth. "But the core of HB is Blitz sleeping with Stolas!" Yeah, and? Make Stolas say "Can't wait to see you tonight~" instead of "I wanna choke on your dick" and you're golden. "But what children show will allow a main character to be a blatant homewrecker?!". "Invader Zim" had main character blatantly steal organs from children. "Regular show"'s main characters are constantly dilrinking alcohol from "soda" cans (they do even more tbh). Mandy from "Grim adventures of Billy and Mandy" or Capitain K'nuckles from "Misadventures of Flapjack" are main characters and are horrible people who are not meant to be role models for kids. Helluva boss minus "adult" stuff would feel at home next to those shows audience wise. It's more teen oriented but still.
And let's be honest. Most people who watch HB aren't even 18
The only things that makes Helluva Boss and adult show are swears and sex or drug jokes. "But the themes!" What themes? Cheating? Abusive dads? They can be explored in kids shows. "Hey, Arnold!" Is prime example of heavy subjects being explored in a cartoon. Heck, "Bluey", a cartoon for LITERAL BABIES explored hard themes.
I don't like helluva, but I'll be honest - it's still entertaining in how frustrating it is.
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helluva-shit-show · 10 months
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What if this conversation continued??
Stolas: I’ve found myself with feelings 🥺for him 🎻 and I’m not sure it’s a mutual thing
Asmodeus instantly feeling bad vibes: Well. I admire that your expressing your lust freely and so blissfully ignoring all collateral damage and humiliation you’ve brought to your entire family! Admirable! But. I’m not giving you an elixir to force love out of this guy. Lust that’s forced isn’t lust at all, the pleasure is artificial. It’s sick. Sin must be chosen. You feel me?
Stolas nervously chuckling and defensively putting his hands up: ohoho noo 😅neeever that~ Ahem. This imp has a business he runs, I know your citizens are some of the few who can traverse the human realm freely and legally, I was wondering if you could find a way for him to do so too?
Asmodeus, awkwardly: ohh uhhh Stolas my heart bleeds for you 😐 but my partner-business partner, Fizzarolli, hates your imp guy, Blitzo right? Yeah. Hates. Him.
Stolas: He does? But why?
Asmodeus: (Ever heard of boundaries dude?) Not my story to tell, or yours to hear. Id help if I could but I can’t. Sorry. ok bye.
Stolas, leaving but still lingering around the room awkwardly cause he’s not used to hearing “no”: 😔boohoohoo…
(A beat, Asmodeus gets a text from froggy, he smiles, but then the more he thinks about Fizz and their consensual partnership, and thinks about the subtextual conversation he’s just had, it drops, as an eerie feeling begins to dawn on him. He holds off on answering for a moment)
Asmodeus: Hey. Hold on just one minute Birdy.
Stolas: ?
Asmodeus, threateningly: What, pray tell, do your little feelings for and sexual trysts with “this imp” Blitzo, have to do with his business, his ability to access the human realm, and my citizens?
Stolas, pissing himself and backing towards the door: W-well you see it, we both agreed to, we h-had this ar-arrangement, I-came up—we both came up with—wh-
Asmodeus, unnerved by this sudden radiating guilt: Excuse me? What is the nature of this so called “arrangement?”
Stolas: Getting our “kink on” hehe, as it were…
Asmodeus: Despite the fact he is an assassin, not an escort? Correct? You’ve failed to answer my question on why this is in any way adjacent to formal business. Or my heavenly problem.
Stolas, sweating: Well w-we…I permit him-legally!—to access the mortal realm and in exchange once a month…I!! Now I know how this sounds, But it’s not..This can’t get out alright it’s not—
Asmodeus, enraged but then slowly smiling, disturbingly calm: Not legal whatsoever? A death sentence to all involved? A blatant disregard for the value of a priceless ancient Ars Goetia artefact your father gave to you, and of your duties to your family? Your daughter and heir especially? You “permit” him to run a business, and going by the ashamed body language I witnessed, he is coerced, by nature, into giving you sex? Is that a fact?
Stolas, sobbing, mascara running: you have to understand my pain!! I was so repressed! Caged! No one had ever wanted me that way! And my bitch wife and arrogant brother in law, they—demand ‘compensation’ but I didn’t do anything-
Asmodeus: As. They. Should. And I’ll do you one better, itty bitty Birdy Babe😃 (A fat subpoena is slapped in his hand:
neglectful mishandling of a priceless Goetia heirloom,
neglect of duties, neglect to educate his heir
fraudulent business transactions
sexual trafficking of a secondary citizen of pride ring - approved to be legitimised as a regular citizen for court by King of Lust, Asmodeus Goetia)
NOW GET. THE FUCK. OUT
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helluva-shit-show · 10 months
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@pinkandpurple360 unfortunate in the sense that due to the canon narrative, the ship has to be taken seriously and taken into account when talking about show topics.
For the record, if this breakdown made it seem as though I ship Blitz with Stolas, I emphatically do NOT. I personally believe you are 100% correct to call out the coercion, verbal abuse, physical abuse, power imbalance, sexual harassment, outright rape, and anything else I missed there that Stolas repeatedly puts Blitz through.
What I was trying to comment on, and which again; wasn't the original reason I was even combing through the episode for, was that Striker shouldn't have been in the episode, even by, and I'll be blunt this time; Vivienne Medrano's intended direction.
I think it's very clear to everyone that Medrano wants Stolas and Blitz to be canon end game. Going off that context and the way the story had been written so far, I still believe if you were going to have Blitz interact with Striker again post "Western Energy", it should have been a MUCH bigger deal. Striker broke Millie's arm and probably her leg, made Blitz almost shoot Moxxie with his own gun, and put Stolas in the hospital. From Medrano's standpoint, she had a really good setup for an intense face off.
Do I personally think Striker is wrong for hating the upper class? No, absolutely not, eat the rich baby, I'm here for it. Is his writing contradictory though? Yeah, very. It's not the characters fault, and I really don't know what the audience is supposed to do with that. He works for Stella, another blue blood. He thinks less of smaller imps like Moxxie. He believes himself and Blitz to be "superior to most of [their] kind". That word choice of "superior" has a lot of intent behind it.
I wish Striker was the character the show desperately needs to call out the caste system and the appalling treatment of imps. But the writing is all over the wall, it's not gonna be his storyline.
So that leaves him as an antagonist, and if he has to be one, he had all the working parts to be a really amazing one. Better than Stella, Crimson, and now even Mammon all put together. He was dangerous, he was smart, he got inside Blitz's head, he had deep rooted drive, even if it wasn't deeply explored, and he was set up in the perfect place to be Blitz's rival.
But no. His character got butchered by terrible writing and now he's just another toothless threat in a growing wardrobe of toothless threats.
So I was re-watching "Oops" grabbing some screenshots for a different rant when it occurred to me, damn, Striker really should not have been in this episode. I know it's not a hot-take, lots of ppl have said this already, but I mean even for the way the writers want the show to go, right down to tone, they really botched an opportunity. I'll let someone else talk about how Striker working with Crimson makes both antagonists so much less intimidating, right now I'm just gonna focus on the narrative so far, and unfortunately for a lot of critics of the main ship it's pushing, this will have a lot to do with Stolitz.
So when we first meet Striker, it's in "The Harvest Moon Festival". The episode starts with Stolas inviting Blitz and the gang to be his royal guests at said festival. Blitz makes him promise it's neither murder work nor a sex thing and Stolas agrees. This is (to the audience's knowledge) the first time Stolas has invited Blitz out to be seen together publicly without any strings attached. He's not being bought, he's not acting as a bodyguard, and he's not expected to bang anyone at the end of the day.
Blitz meets Striker, Striker boosts up Blitz's ego immediately, they enter the pain games together, split the win, have a general good time, and at some point off screen, Blitz offers Striker a job at I.M.P.
And then Blitz catches Striker trying to kill Stolas. He's pissed, but not as pissed as he gets when Striker almost causes him to shoot Moxxie.
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Blitz bites the man and puts a hole through the wall during the fight. They really go at it, it's a pretty intense fight, and you can really feel the rage in Blitz during it.
Putting a pin in Stiker for a minute, let's skip to the next episode, "Truth Seekers" we get a peek into Blitz's headspace surrounding Stolas. He feels chained to Stolas, but through his expressions during the staircase climb, it feels like he wants it to be more than just transactional. Well, at the least, hopes it can be more. Stolas swoops in at the end of the episode and (not without belittling Blitz verbally) saves Blitz and the people he most cares about. And then Stolas asks for a "reward". This 100% highlights Blitz's torn feelings. Does he let himself believe the care is real, or is it just for sex at the end? Well...
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He got his answer didn't he? Stolas doesn't stand up to Ozzie for him. He doesn't make a clear statement that Blitz is more than just a cheap lay. And that hurts.
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At the end of the night Blitz can barely get the words out to set a boundary for himself.
The next time we see these two interact is in "Seeing Stars". Do we get to see the resolve of the night at Ozzie's? Nope. But something has clearly changed since then, bc not only does Blitz show genuine concern for Stolas and try to reassure him, at one point, briefly, he's even receptive to Stolas's flirting again.
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Two episodes later, Striker is back. Blitz very much so has complicated feelings surrounding Stolas at this point, but he shows not just concern, but both fear and rage again at the thought of Striker harming Stolas.
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One could definitely argue at this point that this is about his means to continue his business and source of income and that of his employees, but there is something to be said about him almost cancelling Loona's doctor appointment to go save the rotten owl. Loona is always Blitz's first priority, and though a single vaccine might seem small in comparison to a life, if it really took five years for an appointment, that could be his daughter's life as well, assuming "hellbies" is just rabies but it's in hell. He thought about it. He was ready to turn the car around when Millie and Moxxie stepped in.
And even though Striker got majorly character assassinated in the episode, he tore up Stolas really bad. Him and his angelic weapons do carry real stakes with them, however much they want to make him a joke character. (Again, such a waste of potential)
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With the narrative we know the writers are going with, Blitz does care about Stolas. The realization he can get hurt is probably shocking and terrifying to Blitz. He'd probably both be angry with himself for not going, but getting to the original point, he'd probably be furious at Striker.
Now I know Helluva has a huge tone issue. Is it a comedy? A lot of the time, yeah. Is it a drama? There's definitely drama in it. Romance? Highly debatable. Horror? I mean, it does take place in literal hell, so. Action? It's mixed in there too.
Personally though, I would like to think that the next time Blitz saw Striker, he'd tear him to shreds. I'd think the tone would be on the more serious side. He's hurt Millie and Moxxie very badly in Harvest Moon, he's hurt Stolas to the point he was hospitalized, that's three of the four people Blitz is currently close with. Narratively speaking, Striker could easily be Blitz's main external antagonist. It works both from a more action based tone, but also if you want to push Stolitz, which we know they do. And yet...
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He's just an irritation for Blitz.
He didn't need to be there, it could have just been Crimson and his sharks. Would it have felt weird having him be a stand alone villain again just 3 episodes after he was first introduced, sure. But not any weirder than Stella's personal hitman looking for work in Greed and just happening to find it with said Mafia boss.
I know this was a Blitz/Fizz episode, I get that, I'm not complaining about that, hell, it literally could have been just them figuring their shit out together. But that just makes it even more glaring that Striker shouldn't have been there. This wasn't about him, this wasn't for him.
He's cowboy themed, right? And he's given Blitz plenty of reason to beat the absolute shit out of him? After hurting Stolas like that, (narratively speaking) his next showdown with Blitz should have been some high noon duel shit. Blitz rocked the vest in Harvest Moon, just give him the duel revolvers and start counting steps.
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Personally, I thought the lack of acknowledgement was a joke about how grotesquely rich they were, that their entire mansion could be robbed and it means nothing. Also let's be real, if there was a price to be paid for the robbery, it was gonna be paid by the house staff.
So Blitz steals half the mansion and Stolas and Paimon didn't even notice?
I'm annoyed that nothing ever came of that. I thought for sure Paimon found out and something terrible happened, and while Stolas has this sugar-coated golden tinged memory of that day, Blitzo only remembers it as the day he learned to never, ever cross a Goetia -- which shows how desperate he was to try and steal the Grimoire years later.
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helluva-shit-show · 11 months
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It frustrates me to tears how Viv had so many compelling characters, interesting plotlines, and fun lore right at her fingertips, only to fumble the bag at every turn. I don't have any hope left for either series, and I have no clue how Helluva is supposed to stretch four seasons. It's just such a waste. And I can't even enjoy a lot of the fan content anymore because so many of those creators are trash too. It's a shame. At least I have the HH/HB critical community though, where we can mourn the wasted potential together. Really appreciate you. Thanks for being here. 💜
Why Vivzie stans think we're here: Jealousy, mad that the show didn't align with our headcanons, hate gay people, always hated Vivzie.
Why we're actually here:
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helluva-shit-show · 11 months
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"Michael owes his success to Hazbin" ???
Bby boi, you got that backwards, Michael, Ed, and Ashley BUILT that audience, kept them fed for years, kept interest up, breathed fresh life into those characters, who TF are you kidding???
Truth, and also did someone in the stream actually say that? I had to step away.
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You know, there's another hilarious aspect of Medrano believing she's the Fizz in the newest episode. Fizz looking at the little deaf boy wanting to be like him and Fizz encouraging that? Medrano would literally NEVER. Look how she treated Star-vader. She was so furious at Star for being inspired by her style, she drew Star's OC dead and as a pelt. There was another artist on Instagram a few years back that had a style incredibly similar to Medrano's, and the Medrano stans bombarded the artist with demands to "credit Viv for using her style!" The artist in question had never even heard of Medrano, but was harassed so badly, they privated their account, and to this day, years later, it's still that way.
She doesn't believe in inspiring new talent, she'd claim they're lazy copy-cats trying to cling to her coattails and condemn them before kicking them into her hoard of rabid fans to be torn to shreds.
Vivzie accurate version of that scene where Vivzie's stans bombard the kid's Twitter account with pictures of human shit.
(I'm not even kidding, I've had to report so many.)
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This was a helluva read (pun intended) and thank you for taking the time to do such a super in-depth look at Stella's character!
I've been seeing people talk about how Stolas was originally supposed to be an outright villain in the show over on Chai's blog, before a certain someone on the creative team decided they liked a certain ship too much and after reading this, it occurs to me, I bet a lot of Stolas's original villain arc is gonna be cut and pasted onto Andrealphus, which could also be why they come off as incestuous. It would have originally been Stolas and Stella, a married couple being evil little shits together. Even down to Stolas's voice in the pilot, Andrealphus kinda sounds like him. And if they had stuck to that plotline, it wouldn't have been so egregious that Stella would be the sidekick to the villain, but the way things went, if Andrealphus really does overshadow her, that's gonna be annoying af to put it lightly.
The Stella Problem
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THE STELLA PROBLEM
AKA
HOW TO MESS UP A POTENTIALLY GREAT ANTAGONIST
Hoo boy, where do we begin with this one? Well, let’s start with the introduction and go from there.
Who is Stella?
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Stella’s original design (Helluva Boss (Pilot))
Stella Goetia is the wife of Prince Stolas Goetia, one of the main cast members, who we first meet in the pilot briefly for a few seconds, having been splattered with cake when Blitzo drops in, telling her that he slept with her husband and runs off with the grimoire (being the thing he came for). The fallout from Stolas’ cheating on Stella is one of the major plot points within the show, with it almost always being prevalent in episodes involving Stolas.
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Stella’s first appearance in the series proper (Loo Loo Land (S1, E2))
In ‘Loo Loo Land’, the episode starts with a brief flashback, where Stolas is stirred awake by Octavia’s crying for them, and we are given a glimpse of Stella, who had undergone a redesign between the pilot and now, and when Stolas tells her that Octavia is calling for them, Stella simply tells him to take care of her, and you can see her hogging the blankets.
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Stella being furious (Loo Loo Land (S1, E2))
Later on, in present day, some times after Stolas and Blitzo’s affair, Stella is furiously shouting at him, going as far as to throw stuff, stating her disbelief that Stolas had slept with ‘an imp’ in their bed, getting more aggravated when Stolas brought up not having time to go to a motel, and after throwing one of their imps at Stolas, she calls him a ‘goddamn embarrassment’ before storming off
As you can tell by now, Stella is not the most pleasant person to be around. Even before the affair, it seems Stolas and Stella’s relationship is not the greatest, and Stolas’ affair seems to only have made things a lot worse. On top of that, she has a pretty nasty temper, throwing stuff around and shouting. On one hand, she has anger issues, but on the other hand, she was cheated on, and if the amount of revenge Reddit stories surrounding cheating that I listened to taught me anything, cheating really pisses people off. Although, it would seem that she was more angry about Stolas’ affair partner being an imp rather than the cheating, suggesting that she has a bit of classism about her.
We would not see Stella again for the rest of the episode (or the next two for that matter), but she would get a brief mention towards the end of the episode, when Octavia runs away from Stolas at Loo Loo Land, having grown sick of Stolas flirting with Blitzo throughout the episode. Stolas would come to find her again in a funhouse, and the two would have the following discussion:
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Stolas and Octavia’s heart-to-heart talk (Loo Loo Land (S1, E2))
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Stolas: I take it you are… not having fun.
Octavia: (crying) I didn’t even want to come here!
Stolas: I’m sorry, sweetie. I… I thought you loved it here.
Octavia: (sniffing) When I was a kid and my parents didn’t hate each other… and my dad didn’t flirt with some… weird red dickhead the entire time.
Stolas: I'm sorry, Via. I'm sorry for... everything... happening right now. I know it's... a lot. I, uh-- I should have listened.
Octavia: (crying) I just want to go home... but home doesn't even feel like home anymore... You ruined it.
Stolas: You need to understand... your mother and I... I just-... I felt-... She's always been... I haven't been- Ha-... We weren't in... I'm sorry, I- I- I don't have the words.
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This talk illuminated two things: one, Stolas and Stella’s relationship was at a point where they did not hate each other. Now, this could mean many things, but at the very least, things were better. Two, it is implied that they weren’t in love, suggesting that perhaps that they were in an arranged marriage (which would be confirmed in season two, but we will get to that soon). But I do want people to remember the above conversation when we do.
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Stella speaking to Striker regarding killing Stolas (Harvest Moon Festival (S1, E5))
We would see Stella again in ‘Harvest Moon Festival’ towards the very end, being revealed to be the one who hired Striker, a cowboy-themed assassin, to kill Stolas. Striker reports that he failed to kill him, but he won’t fail again, and Stella angrily states that he better not, as she quotes:
“I want this cheating prick dead! I don’t care who you have to go through! MAKE IT HAPPEN!!”
Stella
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Stolas, Octavia, and Stella at the dining table (Harvest Moon Festival (S1, E5))
We then cut to her pretty much stating this right in front of Stolas and Octavia, but neither seem to take notice, though Stolas does pause for a moment.
It would seem that Stella’s anger towards Stolas for his infidelity had finally reached a breaking point in which she now wants him dead, giving zero regards as to the consequences or the effect it could have on their daughter. Indeed, it would seem she would be an antagonist for I.M.P. and Stolas to overcome in a future episode… but let’s put a pin in that for now.
Unfortunately, this would be the last episode in which Stella has a speaking role in the season, although she would go on to make a silent cameo in ‘Ozzie’s’, when a image of her and Octavia are brought up to shame Stolas during the ‘House of Asmodeus’ song:
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Ozzie showing an illusion of Stella to Stolas (OZZIE’S (S1, E7))
“You used to have a smoking wife, a kid, you had it all”
“I hope you didn’t give it up. So, you and him could get it on”
House of Asmodeus
Now, following this line, Stolas would go on to hide behind a menu in shame, most likely because he was ashamed to be dating an imp (thus caused a rift between him and Blitzo), but from the way Ozzie phrased those lines, it could imply that Stolas has regret for his actions, not just because of how he hurt Octavia, but perhaps for how he hurt Stella. Either that, or Ozzie had no idea (which is just as possible).
And that would be all for Season 1, and due to legal issues for ‘Queen Bee’ (which I will probably talk about for another day), we would skip to Season 2 nearly a year later. While what we saw of Stella was really short (amounting to 36 seconds of screen time within the entire first season), it would seem we had a potential for a very intriguing character.
Sure, all we saw of her so far was her telling Stolas to take care of Octavia, her yelling at Stolas over his affair, her yelling at Striker to not fail again, and then a silent cameo. But hey, surely Season 2 would finally give us some much needed development. Maybe we would get a glimpse of how she and Stolas met, a better look at what Stella was like before Blitzo, and maybe see how her relationship with Stolas had deteriorated. And maybe finally see what her and Octavia’s relationship is like. Heck, in February 2022, we learn that she has a brother in Andrealphus (described as Stolas’s shitty brother-in-law):
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Andrealphus
So, yeah, it looked like we were in for something very neat… but what we got was…
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The Circus (woo…)
After a long hiatus brought upon by an episode being stuck in legal limbo, the season 2 premiere came out, being ‘The Circus’, an episode that would go into Stolas’ past at two points in his life, being his childhood and to right before his affair with Blitzo, as well catching up with him after the events of ‘Ozzie’s’. Naturally, Stella would be in this episode.
The episode opens up on a child Stolas’ birthday, where he meets with his father Paimon, who proceeds to tell him what is expected of him as a Goetia, giving him the grimoire. He would also point out briskly that he is to be married, showing a… well, not so flattering pic of his to-be wife.
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Child Stella tormenting two quieves (The Circus (S2, E1))
(Yeah, that’s what they’re called. Vivienne (or someone) made the conscious decision to name a species after a woman’s genital flatulence. Riveting 🙄)
And naturally, child Stolas is not enthused, crying on sight.
Okay, so Stella apparently was a little terror growing up. Okay, not too terrible, I mean, considering what we have seen of her in the first season, it would track that she grew up with anger issues her whole life, and it followed her well into adulthood. But it does confirm that Stolas and Stella were an arranged marriage… so perhaps, this could simply be her lashing out? I mean, Stolas wasn’t thrilled, so I doubt she would too.
Now, despite being shown this pic,  we never do see child Stella in person, this part of the episode being dedicated to Stolas meeting and spending the day with child Blitzo, culminating in him tricking Stolas into helping him rob the palace blind and give the loot to Blitzo’s asshole dad Cash. All of which is a whole nother beast. But let’s save that for another day.
We skip ahead 25 years later in the episode, where we see a grown up Stolas waking up and going about his morning, eventually seeing Stella on the phone:
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Stella on the phone (The Circus (S2, E1))
She seems to ignore Stolas as she goes about talking loudly to someone on the phone talking about how being married still is not a big occasion, but apparently, ‘it’s not easy being married to a boring stiff.’, and brushes Stolas off when he tries to greet her. Seconds later, Stolas would frown and ask about a ‘Still Not Divorced Party’ that she is throwing, where she nonchalantly said she likes throwing parties, and it’s true either way, and then said he could come if he wants.
Okay, this is… nothing new. I mean, Stolas and Stella were already on the decline even before Stolas and Blitzo happened, if that flashback at the start of ‘Loo Loo Land’ was any indication, and since we know they were forced to marry, even more of a reason for Stella to not be kind to him. But hey, at least in this scene, she’s not yelling, like in 90% of the screen time she had in season one.
We then cut to the ‘Still Not Divorced’ party where we see Stella chatting with those two owls that Stella (her old design at least) was with in the Pilot and…
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Stella with those two owls that were in the Pilot (The Circus (S2, E1))
(seriously, who are these two?)
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Stella: (laughs loudly) No! Stolas is terrible in bed! I swear to fuck, he just lays there staring at the wall, and I have to do everything! It’s embarrassing! (sighs) I’m glad one egg fell out of me, so I could stop pretending to want to fuck his scrawny twig ass. (it’s shown that she said this right in earshot of Stolas, as the trio walks away, Stella giving a smug grin at him) Stella: What a pathetic fucking man
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O-kay, this is before Stolas’ affair with Blitzo, right? I mean, we do see Blitzo sneaking around at the start of this part of the episode. If so, why is Stella being such a bitch here? I mean, I get she isn’t a pleasant person, but at least in season one, when we did see her, she had the excuse of Stolas cheating on her. Sure, it doesn’t justify trying to have him killed, but you could at least understand why she might not care for Stolas.
But here? All unprovoked and take note of what she said, because I will get into that soon.
So, after Stella leaves, Stolas and Blitzo reunite and we get a re-enactment of Blitz sneaking out with the grimoire from the Pilot, this time from Stolas’ perspective, and Stella simply shouts at him what the fuck was that, and Stolas smugly shout that it was the SOUND OF A FUCKING DIVORCE… even though in ‘Loo Loo Land’, he was being completely apologetic and said it was a spur of the moment thing and they didn’t have time for a motel, completely contradicting this scene, thus making it another point against this episode. But hey, at least it can’t get worse? Right?
Anyways, we cut to present day, after the events of ‘OZZIE’S’, where a heartbroken Stolas sings a song that’s supposed to be sorrowful, but just comes off as a bit wangsty, and then Stella comes in, wondering what he’s blubbering about, and Stolas asks what Stella is doing here and…
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I like tormenting you
I like tormenting you
Tormenting you
Tor. Men. Ting. You.
(Okay, this would make more sense if this was in a video format, but imagine if the audio get lower and slower)
So… yeah, turns out Stella… is a psycho bitch, who just likes to make Stolas suffer because… well, there is no reason. She’s just into that shit.
And if that wasn’t enough, when Stolas calls her out for her cruelty and tells her that they’re getting that divorce… she tries to hit him.
So not only is she a psycho bitch, but she’s also a domestic abuser. Well, that’s a whole nother can of worms right there.
There’s so much to unpack here, but I feel we should at least cover the rest of her appearances in the series so far.
She would not appear again till ‘Western Energy’, but she does have a brief voiced cameo in ‘Seeing Stars’, the following episode (and another stinker at that), where Stolas is arguing with her while overseeing the ‘safe transferal’ of her possessions:
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“What? No! I’m not turning her against you!” - Stolas (Seeing Stars (S2, E2))
Now this line could mean two different things. One, Stella is simply trying to start shit by bringing her up. Two, she is genuinely concerned (in her own way) that Stolas would try to turn her against her, which would be a legit concern in a messy divorce (this is coming from a child of such a divorce).
However, we have no way of knowing as Stella and Octavia had never interacted, like at all. Again, we’re gonna get to that, but this is another problem.
Anyways, we get to ‘Western Energy’, which opens up on Stolas, Stella, and…
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…I’m sorry, who the fuck is this guy? (Western Energy (S2, E4))
Yeah, so we are joined by Stella’s brother, Andrealphus… and the show just acts like we should know who he is already.
Mind you, he has never made an appearance before this point. The only allusion we get that he existed (in-show) was Stella mentioning his name before she tries to slap Stolas in ‘The Circus’. All we get is that and that he’s apparently ‘arrogant’, according to Stolas.
Remember that tweet from February 2022, that first showed off Andrealphus? Yeah, apparently Viv and the writers thought that the tweet would suffice for an introduction, and they could just slip him into the show as if he’s always been there. This is a problem for so many reasons, the main being Vivienne and co, had already developed a bad rep for hiding lore and contextual details in supplementary media, such as Patreon or Q&A livestreams, as well as making tweets after a episode to explain something that really should had been in the episode to begin with. But not everyone has Twitter (or X as it’s called now), and unless someone showed him to you beforehand, you probably would have been confused as to who he is.
Like god damn, Viv, it’s not like there was a certain ‘Still Not Divorced’ party consisting of Goetias that Andrealphus could had easily been a part of, especially since he’s Stella’s brother, that would had not only introduced him but possibly established his role in the series, but naw, let’s just hope people seen that tweet and know who he is.
But let’s get back to Stella, shall we? Anyways, Stella and Andrealphus called Stolas here to discuss ‘compensation’ for his cheating, which amounts to some name-calling, and is quickly interrupted by Striker, who proceeds to kidnap Stolas (with Stolas catching on that Stella hired him to kill him).
We join them again halfway through the episode where Andrealphus and Stella are having tea at his palace, the two having some cheerful evil sibling banter… but then…
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Andrealphus scheming… and Stella’s just sitting there (Western Energy (S2, E4))
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Andrealphus: You silly minx, you (giggles). Though, you know, if your husband dies it won't turn out well for you.
Stella: He'll be dead; why wouldn't it?
Andrealphus: (somewhat concerned) Because, my dear sister, he's already produced an heir; when he dies, his duties, his possessions, his legions, it'll all pass to.... Via.
(Stella absentmindedly continues to drink without acknowledging him.)
Andrealphus: (annoyed) If you kill him, you would....
Stella: Laugh? Ha-
Andrealphus: (facepalms in anger) No, you stupid cow! You'd get nothing!... You're so lucky that you're attractive.
Stella: Well, what do you propose we do? He won't leave me anything willingly; he hates me almost as much as I hate him.
Andrealphus: Hmm. Well, this kind of situation is extremely unique; a Goetia has never behaved like this before. *stands up from his chair and walks behind Stella* But, with him alive, we have options. Opportunities. An eternity's a long time, my dear; I say we bide our time, and wait for our chance to... GAIN the upper hand.
Stella: (begins to pout and whine) Oohhhhhh, but I want him dead so badly!
Andrealphus: And he will be, in time, my fiery vixen. But, patience first; now, *hands her his customized phone* call off your mangy stray.
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…Okay, so not only is she a psycho bitch, a domestic abuser…
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Pictured above: a air-headed bimbo (Western Energy (S2, E4))
A DUMBASS.
I know I said Stella wanted Stolas dead, be damned the consequences, but they make her so narrow-minded that she does not realize that she would definitely get nothing, Andrealphus having to spell it out for her. In fact, that’s pretty much was the point of Andrealphus’ being in this episode: to tell Stella to tell Striker to not kill Stolas. You could have easily removed him and had Stella come to this conclusion herself… or better yet, since Striker would lose to Moxxie and Millie, just remove the scene altogether and have it be just another failure.
I could have bought that this narrow-mindedness was a product of her anger issues, because that has been established… but here? It’s because she’s dumb and she needs her big brother to tell her no. Not only does it already make her already wallowing character worse, but she is practically now playing second fiddle to her brother, making her less of a threat, and not helping Viv in beating the allegations of her female characters only be props to males. Also,  what is that incestuous vibe they got going there? Is that something that’s going to be important or be forgotten with the rest of the hanging plot threads?
And that’s pretty much all we see of her up to this point. It is possible that she will appear in the season finale (if the leaks from January 2023 are anything to go by), but considering there’s 5 episodes left in the season, and what we did get of her so far was… it’s bad. Bad, bad, bad.
So… what went wrong here?
Well, to put it in layman’s terms, they took a character with a lot of potential, a wife scorned by her unfaithful husband to the point of wanting him dead… and turned her into a one-note baddie whose sole purpose is to make Stolas miserable and nothing else… plus she’s stupid.
That’s pretty much the way to put it. And many people had voiced their dismay at this… and all the defenders and stans came out and tried to argue (or harass) people for voicing their displeasure with how this character was handled. So, I will try to voice why I feel that the writers here royally fucked up.
Point #1: Was this always fated to be? Was this a retcon? I don’t know, I barely know the lady!
So, one of the most common arguments that came up regarding Stella when ‘The Circus’ came out and messed everything up was:
“This was always how she was meant to be.”
“She was always a bad person.”
“Stella simps be mad, lol.”
I’m paraphrasing of course, but yeah, the consensus among the defenders and stans was that this was all part of Vivienne’s big plan, and she was always going to be this evil psycho bitch.
On the flip side, I had heard many fans (including the simps) complain that this was a retcon, that they had decided partway through production to just go full ‘I’m an evil piece of shit who strangles puppies and drinks childrens’ tears’ with her.
As for me, I personally disagree with the retcon… but not because it isn’t. It’s for the simple fact that for a retcon to occur,  there would have to be something to retcon to begin with!
This must bear reminding, she only had 36 seconds of screen-time in the entirety of season one. 36 seconds, little over half a minute. And it’s spread across these three scenes in two episodes (excluded the cameo in Ozzie's):
Loo Loo Land (Scene 1): she didn’t want to get up with Stolas to tend to Octavia, and she hogs the blankets.
Loo Loo Land (Scene 2): She’s pissed at Stolas for cheating on her with an imp, throwing imps and stuff around
Harvest Moon Festival (Scene 3): She wants Stolas dead for cheating on her, hiring Striker
In my opinion, the only scene that could undeniably be considered evil in this scenario is her hiring Striker to kill Stolas, but even then, it’s fueled by her wanting revenge for his infidelity (or rather, cheating with an imp). The other two were subjective, and could be interpreted many ways. All that could really be established before ‘The Circus’ was her and Stolas’ relationship was already on the decline and the affair really pissed Stella to the point that she wanted him dead. Everything else has been pretty up to interpretation, and that’s the problem.
On top of there only being 36 seconds of Stella, this was all over the course of a season, which lasted a year (excluding the delayed ‘Queen Bee’ which aired nearly two years later), and it would be around nine months before she and the series returned in ‘The Circus’. With what little there was of her, people had to use their imagination to determine what kind of character she would be:
Would she be a psychotic elitist racist, driven mad by the humiliation and rage of being cheated on with an imp? Or is someone fueled by the human desire to keep up appearances, beaten into her by a draconic hierarchy of Goetias who frowns upon the first sight of weakness? Does she see her daughter as a chess piece, intending to use her to further her agenda, or mold her into a replica of herself? Or does she truly love her daughter, which factors into why she loathes Stolas for ‘shattering’ their family? Hell, were she and Stolas friends at one point, or at least acquaintances? And was she capable of speaking like a normal person instead of screaming almost all her lines?
There were so many ways Stella’s character could have been utilized, some of which I had seen done in several fanfictions and fan comics over the course of the series. With such possibilities created expectations and hype that probably got a bit too high, but surely, if at the very least, after a very decent season one, they wouldn’t mess this up?
Well, they did.
Of all the ways they could had gone with Stella, they settled for what I believe to be the lowest denominator of a personality which is simply:
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‘I am evil… maniacal laugh’
Now, I can already hear someone saying:
‘Oh, you’re just mad that Stella didn’t turn out the way you wanted.’
Granted, that is a fair argument. Again, with how little we got of her and how long the wait between episodes are, it is possible that people had set their expectations too high and they got themselves overhyped. But counterpoint: this argument only works if the character still turned out good and you just weren’t happy with the end results.
Emphasis on ‘if the character still turned out good’.
This ‘characterization’ Stella got in ‘The Circus’ amounts to ‘She was evil from the day she was born, and she hates Stolas. She hates Stolas very much.’ That’s it. That’s the rub. And following that episode, we could also add that ‘she’s dumb and narrow-minded, with her brother being a bit too infatuated with her’.
One of the big problems with this character we got is that it’s so flat. Like cardboard cutout-flat. This is infuriating because this is the same show that gave us characters that are layered and complex: you got a foul-mouth crazy clown in Blitzo who harbors a lot of guilt and self-hatred. You got a perverted demon prince in Stolas who might want something more with his impish plaything. You have a neurotic straight man in Moxxie, struggling with his own self-image. Hell, even Loona has some sort of a heart under that cold surly front. There’s also Millie, but that’s another issue for another day.
The point is, all these characters had depth and nuances to them… and Stella does not. I am not saying Stella being irredeemably evil is bad. There are several villains designed like this that are loved and applauded. In fact, later that year, we would get a villain like Stella, but done a lot better.
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Jack Horner (Puss In Boots: The Last Wish (2022))
Meet Jack Horner. He is one of the three antagonists from ‘Puss In Boots: The Last Wish’. Compared to the far more sympathetic Goldilock and the Three Bears and the force of nature that is Death, Jack Horner is as evil as you can get, intending to use the Wishing Star to hoard all the magic to himself, callously treating his men as expendable till it comes down to just him, and is willing to do anything, going as far as to shoot a puppy (in the face by the way, why you ask), that even his ‘conscience’ (the Ethical Bug that’s clearly supposed to be Jiminy Cricket) outrights calls him a ‘irredeemable monster’. His response?
“Woah, woah. What took you so long, idiot?”
However, despite this, Jack is considered one of the best parts of the film, many finding him hilarious and hammy, yet somehow managing to be a menacing threat. But what made him stand out was at the time, there was this belief that irredeemable villains (or rather ‘evil for the sake of being evil’), examples being like the villains from the older Disney movies or from Saturday morning cartoons, were considered boring, less interesting than other villain archetypes, such as tragic villains or twist villains (which was Disney’s go-to for villains when not using generational trauma). Jack was considered a breath of fresh air, managing to be a memorable villain without needing any complexity or sympathetic qualities.
Now, where did Jack succeed and Stella fail?
To begin, it’s hard to make a fair comparison, as Stella is an antagonist from an indie animated adult series while Jack is from a film made by Dreamworks, and a part of a famous franchise that is Shrek. Be that as it may, I do strongly believe that Jack Horner is a good example of how to do a villain like Stella properly.
Now, Jack only has five and a half minutes of screen time and by god, does he make every scene he appears in count. Whether it’s John Mulaney’s voice-acting, the comedic timing, or just how he owns how evil he is. And he is given a backstory, where he was overshadowed by Pinocchio of all people, but the movie makes no attempt to try and make him sympathetic. They even lampshades this in a scene where he said he didn’t have much… and then proceeded to describe a very well-off lifestyle.
I do believe that why ‘I like tormenting you’ Stella doesn’t hit the same marks is that we initially had no clear indication that Stella is this horrid, irredeemable monster that hated Stolas just for breathing in season one. Sure, she wanted him dead for cheating, but this takes place in Hell, where murder and destruction happens on a daily basis. Aside from that, we had no idea how Stella treated Stolas before Blitzo came along, or how she is when she isn’t being pissed off.
Even then, all of Stella’s evilness in Season Two pretty much revolved around just hating on Stolas for no reason and wanting him dead. That’s it. It’s the same ‘Stolas is (insult)’ in the little time she has that would get old if it had time to get old. In fact, literally all but one scene with her revolves around Stolas of some sorts. The one scene that didn’t was her and Andrealphus interacting in ‘Western Energy’, and I would say that, aside from Stella being portrayed as stupid, her banter with Andrealphus was one of her better scenes and that’s a very low bar to set.
It is possible that this kind of characterization would have worked if Stella was just given more time in season one to establish this ‘I like tormenting you’ mentality. I’m not saying add her in every episode willy-nilly, but if she had even a minute or two more of screen time they could have at least made her characterization in The Circus easier to digest and nip all the hype and rampant interpretations in the bud. Another idea, though harder to pull off, would have been to just remove her from the season altogether. She was already barely in the show to begin with, and maybe with some tweaking, she could have made her debut in season two, since that’s when she became more prominent. That way, people aren’t left waiting nearly two years speculating what kind of person Stella is only to be disappointed.
Even then though, there’s no guarantee that doing this would had salvaged canon Stella, as there’s a very glaring problem that would be:
Point #2: Screams of Silence: The Story of Stolas G.
Trigger Warning: Domestic Abuse and Implied Rape
In ‘The Circus’, there are two scenes here that carry some very heavy implications. In the ‘Still Not Divorced’ party scene, as you may recall above, she says this line here:
Stella: (laughs loudly) No! Stolas is terrible in bed! I swear to fuck, he just lays there staring at the wall, and I have to do everything! It’s embarrassing! (sighs) I’m glad one egg fell out of me, so I could stop pretending to want to fuck his scrawny twig ass.
And at the very end of the episode, when Stolas said they were getting the divorce…
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Yeah, so it is pretty much shown that Stella is abusive to Stolas, both mentally and physically, and judging from Stella’s line at the party, it’s possible that Stella had also raped Stolas till they had conceived Octavia.
Now, this is a very dark and possibly interesting turn for the series: it is very rare to see a woman abusing a man in media, and considering how Stolas has homosexual leanings, that and the possible ‘rape’ could make for commentary regarding the awful things the LGBTQ+ community faced.
Honestly, it would have made for a good story… if this wasn’t Helluva Boss, a series that was supposed to be a comedy. A COMEDY. And here Viv and the writers go and drop both domestic abuse and rape in a show that would go on to have scenes like this:
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Dicks in the wall (Exes and Oohs (S2, E3))
And this:
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Not heard: Fizzarolli describing Ozzie’s dick (Oops (S2, E6))
Before people go and complain, I am aware that there have been dark scenes in otherwise light-hearted shows, and Helluva Boss is a black comedy, so dark stuff is to be expected. But there’s a very fine line you have to be careful of when inserting stuff, lest you have scenes like the attempted rape scene in Beethoven’s 2nd.
No. I am not making that up. In Beethoven’s 2nd, a family film mind you, there is a scene where a guy attempted to rape the eldest daughter. Nothing physical happens, just him locking her in the room with him, and Beethoven ends up saving her, but yeah, imagine finding something like that in a film aimed at kids.
Up to this point, Helluva Boss had been a show that didn’t take itself too seriously. Sure, there were some dramatic scenes here and there, especially when it came down to ‘Truth Seekers’ and ‘OZZIE’S’, especially regarding Blitzo and Stolas. But even then, it was mostly relationship drama, which is par for the course for most comedy series.
But the two things that are very dangerous to handle in a comedy series, if not done tactfully, is domestic abuse or rape, and now, Helluva Boss had pulled that pin on the proverbial grenade.
There are several problems with this and I will try to tackle them. First off, let’s address the ‘possible’ rape allegation.
Note how I have been saying ‘possible’ for the past few paragraphs? Well, here’s the thing: like Stella herself season one, it’s all up to interpretation. Yes, it’s possible to see where people drew the conclusion that Stella did what she did to Stolas, but it is also very possible that Stolas simply was not attracted and therefore saw no point in trying to enjoy it. Whether this is because he was gay (fun fact: Stolas has not been officially confirmed to be gay. Look it up. I mean, it’s obvious he’s not straight, but it’s possible he could still be bi (or pan). So if you wanna ship girls with Stolas, go nuts), or were simply not into Stella in particular, no one can say for certain.
Also,  there’s a line that I feel people either hadn’t noticed or ignored in Stella’s conversation:
“I’m glad one egg fell out of me, so I could stop pretending to want to fuck his scrawny twig ass.”
Unlike Stolas being bad in bed, this line pretty much spelt it out that Stella didn’t want to have sex with Stolas either. But since an heir is what was expected of them, they pretty much had to, with Stella probably being the one who had to make the effort. A fellow critic, Schjiro, explained it to me as ‘Emotionless Fornication’, where neither party had any feeling whatsoever when engaging in intercourse. So, as far as we know, neither party wanted to do it, but had to in order to produce a precautionary heir, with Stella being the one to make the effort. Again, it is possible to see how one drew the horrid conclusion, but one thing to remember is that implication does not mean facts. Not to mention if Stella really did ‘rape’ Stolas, this would in turn mean that Octavia was a product of rape, and that is a new level of dark that I feel Helluva Boss is very ill-equipped to tackle. And even then, why is no one paying attention to the fact that Stella herself didn’t want to have sex with Stolas? That I will cover in the next point.
Now, for the domestic abuse aspect of the relationship.
Unlike the rape, there’s less room for implications, as canon Stella really took no prisoners when it comes to laying out the verbal abuse. And with it comes mental abuse. That part is covered. However, when it comes to physical abuse… that is where things get a bit wonky.
Aside from throwing objects at him in ‘Loo Loo Land’, this is the only instance in the series where Stella had physically attacked Stolas directly. Many fans/stans had taken how Stolas caught her hand so easily as her having done this many times in their marriage and Stolas had gotten so used to the physical abuse to expect it. While a plausible theory, one of the issues I have with this is if you recall that image from before...
Stella’s slap could have been seen a mile away. Now, arguably, Stolas could have just taken it, having grown accustomed to the abuse, but it’s just as plausible that Stolas caught it because it was so easily choreographed. Even then, there’s another issue I have with this.
Can Stella even physically hurt Stolas? No, I’m serious here. Can Stella actually hurt Stolas and make him bleed and stuff? It is something I have seen in many fanarts depicting the abuse, but the thing is, it was established in ‘Harvest Moon Festival’ that demon royalty can only be killed by blessed weapons. However, the show never establishes if the same rule applies to being hurt.
What I mean is, there has never been an in-show occurrence where Stolas was hurt by anything that wasn’t a blessed weapon. The only time we ever see Stolas being hurt by something at all is in this Instagram post here (after ‘Truth Seekers’):
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Stolas apparently needed his arm bandaged due to a bear trap. Now, this would have made Stella being a physical abuser work… but the thing is: the instagram posts aren’t exactly canon. They do allude to things that do happen in the series proper but I believe Viv went on record to say that they were mostly for fun and weren’t to be taken seriously. So that’s a bust. But even if Stolas was able to be hurt by normal means, there’s another problem: look at ‘Western Energy’:
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Striker using a ‘blessed’ weapon (Western Energy (S2, E4))
Striker here was using a blessed weapon to torture Stolas, and was gonna use it to kill him (until Stella called off the hit). And because of it, Stolas was in pretty bad shape. Now, it could be argued that Striker made his dagger ‘blessed’ so that when torturing Stolas, it would hurt more, inflicting maximum pain before going for the kill. But the thing is…
Stolas, tortured to an inch of his life by blessed weapons, was completely and utterly fine within a week as of 'Oops'. And yes, it has been a week. Earlier in ‘Oops’, Striker flat out states that he had a ‘royal on the ropes just last week’ (being Stolas). Like god damn, if Stolas could easily shrug off injuries inflicted by blessed weapons, what does that say for anything Stella could do? It’s not like Stella’s hands are made of blessed metal. And Stella has not been shown to have any sort of powers or abilities that could be considered harmful.
Now, I’m not saying that men can’t be abused by women, clearly they can. And there has been a couple of times in media it has happened. But the problem I am having is Stolas time and time again is proven to be a powerful demon prince capable of fucking shit up, yet we are expected to believe that Stella could ever lay a hand on Stolas.
In fact, it wouldn’t be far-fetched to say Stella abusing Stolas would be like if Lois Lane was abusive to Superman. Like, be a total piece of shit all you want to this person, the only reason you’re still kicking is because the other guy is too polite, too chicken-shit, or just doesn't care enough to raze you into the ground.
The only edge Stella would have on Stolas is the fact that she is more social and being a woman, she could easily play the wounded gazelle and manipulate the Ars Goetia family into turning on Stolas, not to mention there’s Octavia to consider, arguably Stolas’ biggest Kryptonite by far. However, even then, that’s debatable, on the fact that Stolas by all accounts should outrank Stella.
If Stolas and Stella’s marriage failed, it would more than likely be blamed on Stella more than anything, and as Andrealphus pointed out, she would end up with nothing. And to be frank, it’s not like Stolas had been facing any actual legal repercussions for his affair with Blitzo. As it stands, Stella is only a threat to Stolas… because the writers want her to be.  Never mind that Stolas is stronger, has more importance and the fact that Stella is pretty much a joke next to her, which makes the fact that we’re supposed to fear her as this domestic abuser even more laughable. And on that side note, if Stolas is a battered spouse who suffered under Stella for so long, why the hell did he agree to meet her and Andrealphus at that cafe? You would think that a victim of abuse, even if they had gathered the courage to leave, would think twice before agreeing to meet a person that physically and verbally abuses you. Especially if it leads to an assassin kidnapping you and torturing you.
Even then, that barely scratches the surface of why this domestic abuse angle doesn't work.
Now, as it had been established, canon Stella as of now has little personality beyond hating Stolas and being a psycho bitch. The line ‘I like tormenting you’ sold that pretty well. But here’s the thing though:
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The face of an awful domestic abuser… apparently
Am I expected to believe that this woman is a heartless abuser, let alone take her seriously?
Remember, this series was meant to be a comedy, and Stella, in every other scene except the one at the end of ‘The Circus’, had been established as a loud-mouthed, crass, entitled, bratty bully. You know, the kind of antagonist you expect out of a comedy. Yet, here they are, trying to shoehorn in a domestic abuse plotline that’s supposed to be taken as serious. If this was in a series like Bojack Horseman, or hell, even a younger-focused series like Avatar: The Last Airbender,  where drama and serious storytelling take priority over funny moments, this might have worked.
But the thing is, there’s a reason abusive women characters worked. Case in point:
Lady Tremaine & Mother Gothel
These two are probably some of the first characters that come to mind when you think of abusive characters. And they share a lot of similarities to Stella herself. Granted, their abuse was more aimed at children rather than a spouse, but they are good templates for what makes a good ‘abusive’ character.
Lady Tremaine (otherwise known as The Stepmother) is a status-focused woman who carries herself with a sense of superiority and smugness (not unlike Stella) strongly mistreated her stepdaughter Cinderella, forcing her to serve her and her biological daughters as a servant. While we don’t see this abuse on-screen (as this was a Disney movie for kids), every time she was on screen, you worry for Cinderella, especially in scenes like when she is talking to Cinderella from her bed in the bedroom, when she raises her voice. Her scenes are pretty much devoid of the light-heartedness and comedy you expect out of a film with talking mice, and despite never raising a hand towards Cinderella, she’s god-damn scary, and is considered one of Disney’s better villains, up there with the likes of Maleficent (who by the way, would be voiced by the same voice actress years later). And like Stella, she isn’t given a sympathetic backstory (though the live action remake many decades later would try to humanize her), and while nowadays, she might not be as compelling, she’s the poster child for the Wicked Stepmother archetype.
Mother Gothel is portrayed in a way more akin to how abusers would act in real life. When we first meet her, it’s established that she’s a selfish vain woman obsessed with maintaining her youth, hoarding a magical flower for herself to do so. And when this flower was taken and used to cure the ailing queen, Gothel goes as far as kidnapping the queen’s baby Rapunzel, who retained the flower’s power, when she couldn’t simply take her hair. Since then, Mother Gothel raised Rapunzel as if she was her own and pretty much emotionally and psychologically manipulates her into staying within the tower, her roots taking hold so deep that Rapunzel herself dare not defy her, out of fear of being a bad daughter to her, and Gothel does all this with such a saccharine demeanor. However, there are moments where the mask slips, like at the end of her song ‘Mother Knows Best’ where she flat out told her never to ask to leave the tower again, or towards the climax of the film, where she willingly put Rapunzel in danger with the Stabbington Brothers just to prove her point and scare her into coming back with her. But the mask is pretty much off when Rapunzel wises up to her manipulations and she flat out willing to force her into servitude to her just so she can maintain her youth forever. Oh, and side note, in the animated series, she abandoned her own biological daughter so she could steal and hide Rapunzel. Real mother of the year there. I’m not a psych expert, so I can’t go into all how Mother Gothel is a stellar example of an abusive villain, but someone that Stella wishes she could be.
So why does Stella not work like these two? Well, a major factor to consider is: domestic abuse is not a joking matter. Lady Tremaine and Mother Gothel are characters that are often written in a way that they are treated as serious threats, with their horrible actions never played for laughs. Sure, Gothel does have a few funny moments, but it never takes away from the horrible things she did in the film. This is often applied to almost every abusive character in media, from cartoons to movies. When done properly, the abusive characters are almost never played for laughs, and their abusive actions, be it towards spouses or children, are never taken lightly. If abuse is ever treated as a joke, it is usually done in poor taste… or you’re South Park or someone into edgy humor.
Stella doesn’t work because she is a supposed abuser in a show that plays physical abuse for laughs. In other words, she is:
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Jeffrey Fecalman (Family Guy, Screams of Silence: The Story of Brenda Q. (S10, E3))
Jeffrey Fecalman, or just Jeff, is a minor one-shot character that appeared in ‘Screams of Silence: The Story of Brenda Q.’ (he did actually appear a few seasons earlier in a scene in ‘Jerome’s The New Black’) in the season ten episode of Family Guy, and hoo boy, this episode is considered one of Family Guy’s worst episodes for its very poor handling of the subject matter.
The problems were numerous: one, the abuse victim Brenda is the sister of Quagmire, who is infamous for his sexual exploits that would not fly today in the current tv environment, taking advantage of women just like his sister. Two, the way the main cast handled the situation is so awful, from victim blaming, to Joe the cop not arresting Jeff when he flat out is abusing her right in front of him, to deciding to kill Jeff on the belief that abusers never change, getting so much about domestic abuse wrong.
And lastly… well, Jeff is characterized as an unsympathetic piece of shit who beats Brenda over the littlest things, yet for some reason, Brenda refuses to leave him, and has no personality beyond that. Sounds familiar? Jeff is pretty much Stella, but over ten years earlier. And like Stella, Jeff is portrayed in such a ham-fisted way that he is impossible to take seriously as a domestic abuser. And that should be a warning that you have done something severely wrong.
Now, I should state this, because I recall a conversation on Twitter I had when talking about Stella a year ago,  when I criticized just how too cartoony Stella was to be a domestic abuser. A person did call me out, saying that they knew someone just like Stella, down to her demeanor. I am by no means trying to say that people who behave just like Stella or Jeff can’t exist. After all, reality is stranger than fiction. And I am sorry that you had to put up with someone like that and I hope you’re doing well.
That being said, it does not take away from the fact that Jeff and Stella are terrible as abusive villains, not just because they act in such a way that’s impossible to take seriously, but because of the world/series they live in.
Jeff is a serious domestic abuser in Family Guy, a show that is infamous for all sorts of abuse that is always played for laughs, especially towards Butt Monkey poster child Meg Griffin. Hell, this episode is immediately after another infamous episode where Meg called out her family for their abuse… but then proceeds to stay and take the abuse so they wouldn’t lash out at each other. Needless to say, it’s no surprise that Family Guy got lambasted for this episode.
But what about Stella? Well, on top of Blitzo treating Moxxie like crap and disrespecting him time and time again, we get lovely scenes like this in the very next episode of Helluva Boss.
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Shown: Loona kicking Blitzo in the balls (Seeing Stars (S2, E2))
In this also very divisive episode, Loona treats Blitzo, her adoptive father, like absolute dogshit, beating him up in the first image for offering constructive criticism over her job as a receptionist (which we never seen her do since the pilot), letting Octavia slip in and steal the book (probably out of spite for Blitz), disregarding Blitz’s orders to find Octavia until she had a ‘change of heart’ when Blitz and Stolas are taken to the studios, and lastly, Blitz, feeling sudden remorse for threatening to replace her (even though she dared him to do it) tries to apologize… only to get kicked in the balls. And mind you, this is right after a touching scene with Octavia, where Loona told her to cut her dad some slack (someone who she had zero interactions with beforehand) because they screwed up… when Blitz really hadn’t screwed up at all in the series that we had seen. It all comes off as very hollow.
And not once is Loona’s abuse and disrespect of Blitzo treated with a modicum of seriousness. Hell, I’ve seen many people rush to Loona’s defense, arguing that Loona was justified because of her past and that she didn’t like being touched. Hell, one person tries arguing that Blitzo used micro-aggression. I got the whole ‘media literacy is dead’ for speaking up about Loona’s behavior. It’s all something that we are supposed to just laugh and find amusing…
One question though… WHERE THE FUCK WAS ANY OF THIS DEFENSE FOR STELLA?!
This is the very reason domestic abuse is not something you can just drop in a show, let alone a comedy that uses physical slapstick as a joke. Because if you drop in a domestic abuse story and play it straight for an episode, but then turn around and do an episode where another person do the same shit for the funnies, it causes a massive tone inconsistency (something Helluva Boss is infamous for now) and confusion, making people wonder if they are supposed to laugh or take things seriously. Even then, doing the abuse for the funnies gets old real quick, which is a problem Family Guy constantly combats with to this day.
Simply put, if you’re going to make a villain an abuser, you best be prepared to handle them seriously, and make sure it doesn’t go against the kind of show you’re running. Otherwise, don’t get mad when people get upset.
That being said, now is the time to tackle the last problem about Stella:
Point #3: Making Stella look bad so Stolas looks good
A very common complaint that people had concerning Stella following ‘The Circus’ was that Stella was written the way she was so that Stolas, her husband and one of the main characters, would appear better in terms of morality. And hoo boy, there is so much truth to this statement than you realize.
But before we get ahead of ourselves, let’s get familiar with Stolas.
Stolas Goetia is a prince from the Ars Goetia family, based on the demon of the same name. He is Stella’s husband, and the father of Octavia, and his affair with Blitzo is a major plot point within the series.
He’s a very divisive character in the fandom: either you love him and would die for him… or you think he’s the worst thing ever and should go die in the ditch. Regardless, his character in season one was one of intrigue: he is similar in some ways to Stella, treating imps, Blitzo included, as lesser races, and constantly flirts (to a very uncomfortable degree) and condescends Blitzo on several occasions. In fact, some fans goes as far as to say he’s sexually coercing Blitz, if the nature of their deal is anything to go by (to make a long story short, in ‘Murder Family’, he proposed the infamous full moon deal where he and Blitz must have sex for the book… while Blitz is running for his life from Satanist cannibals). Yeah, not a very good look.
Not to say he was without good points, as he loves his daughter Octavia dearly, but Stolas is a very flawed individual whose affair and behavior had an effect on the people around him, Stella and Octavia included, and it was for these flaws that he and Blitz were called out in ‘House of Asmodeus’ and Stolas ends up creating a rift between him and Blitz as a result of it. While Stolas may be divisive, his character was complex and intriguing, and hey, it’s not everyday that you see a flawed queer character in media. The keyword being ‘was’. Yeah, Stella wasn’t the only victim of ‘The Circus’.
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Pictured: A very sad boi (The CIrcus (S2, E1))
So, as mentioned in Point #1, ‘The Circus’ served as the backstory of Stolas, revealing how he was arranged to marry to Stella at a young age, and to get him to cease his ‘bitch crying’ from his less than stellar father, he took him to the eponymous ‘circus’, where Stolas meets Blitzo as a kid (that’s an issue for another day), Paimon ‘buys’ Blitzo for a day and Blitzo’s dad have him rob the place with no consequences and serve no purpose other to maybe let Blitzo know that Stolas had a grimoire?
25 years later, we find out Stella is always a P.O.S. and Blitzo comes back into his life, and rather than it being a sordid affair that happened all the sudden… it is now Stolas really misread the situation and thought Blitz was coming onto him and Blitz only fucked him out of pity (another issue for another day). We then cut to the next morning, where we get a recap of the pilot scene with Stella, except Stolas proudly brag that it was the ‘sound of a fucking divorce’, which contrasts how apologetic he was in ‘Loo Loo Land’ (Vivienne said it was a ‘high’ Stolas was experiencing at the moment but eh…).
Then we cut to the present day, and the scene above. Stolas is sad, takes antidepressants, and begins to ‘lament’ about his love life. Except, he’s not lamenting how badly he hurt Blitz or anything… he lamenting how he misread Blitzo not being in love with him. I mean, that is a problem, but not the right one to be focusing on.
Anyways, the song ends with Stella’s interruption, and we get the infamous ‘I like tormenting you’ scene, but there’s a line here that bears reading:
“I know what I did. I would feel bad if I hurt you, but we both know I didn’t do that. You and I were arranged for one reason; to birth a precautionary heir to the Goetia family, nothing more. I tried so many years to make it comfortable for us; to have this family, but it was never enough. The only reason I have endured your constant insults and cruelty was for that girl to have a normal life… I cannot do this anymore. I want you out. Now.”
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So… yeah, you may notice how unbelievably ‘sad’ Stolas was portrayed in this episode. Well, I hope you enjoy this sad gay owl because this is Stolas’ character now. That’s right, gone is the complex, morally dubious owl who arranged a deal with this random imp to fuck him for his book, whose affair that strained his relationship with his daughter and made his wife want to kill him. Here now is a wangsty owl who’s sad that the imp he knew only for a day, who robbed him and then try to rob him again of his grimoire only to fuck him out of pity, and is a poor, poor victim of his evil wife who he was forced to marry and couldn’t divorce for some reason for his daughter.
And this here marks one of the major reasons I did not like the direction they took with Stella. By making Stella a flat evil gay husband beater of a wife, they’re absolving Stolas of his affair with Blitzo. If you think I’m overexaggerating, just take a look at this line in ‘Western Energy’
“Andrealphus, cheating implies there was a betrayal. This woman never gave two shits about me or our very much arranged marriage. As far as I’m concerned, this divorce is far overdue.”
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Like I said, absolving him of cheating. I’m not going to get into the argument of whether or not it’s morally correct to cheat on someone who treats you like crap. However, I’m of the belief that two wrongs don’t make a right. His cheating may or may not have hurt Stella, but it certainly hurt Octavia, and I find it weird that he apologizes to Octavia for his affair (that he continued to have) but not the woman he cheated on. Not to mention, as of time of writing, he isn’t brought to task on any of his other wrongdoings so far in season two.
He doesn’t reflect on his elitism and racism towards imps, he doesn’t reflect on how his cheating had hurt his family, or how kinda messed up his deal with Blitzo is. He’s just sad that Blitz doesn’t share his feelings. Hell, they never even had that conversation about their falling out after Ozzie’s, unless you count the text messages at the end of ‘Western Energy’. I mean, it could change with ‘Full Moon’, the very next episode to be released, but I’m not feeling hopeful.
Back to Stella, it speaks volumes how at the same time Stolas is made to be this poor sad perpetual victim, Stella is made to be this psychotic abuser. Which really sucks because Vivienne said that Stolas and Stella was supposed to be this whole thing where not one person was in the complete right. Yet, here we are, with Stolas being good and Stella being  evil, with no nuance, complexity, or all that jazz. It definitely doesn’t help that Stella only had 36 seconds of screen time while Stolas had way more, making the imbalance even worse.
Not to mention that in ‘Loo Loo Land’, Octavia flat out mentioned that they didn’t used to hate each other. Yet from what we saw in ‘The Circus’, Stella… always hated Stolas. This could mean one of three things: one, Stolas somehow managed to hide the fact that Stella hates and possibly abuses him for 17 years. Two, Octavia is so sheltered and god-damn oblivious (or stupid) that she could not see her mom obviously hating on her father. Or three, this line was completely forgotten by Vivienne and her writers and should be disregarded. Any of these three does not scream good writing in my eyes.
While a simple black and white dynamic isn’t the worst thing, that was not what was set up. Stolas was flawed. Stella was flawed. They were both shitty people who handled their dysfunctional relationship poorly and it hurt their daughter. To simply change that into where the closeted gay owl is in the right while the evil straight swan woman is in the wrong just comes off as boring.
Another issue I have with this is… why is Stolas getting the preferential treatment? Yes, Stolas is the one being abused and insulted by the woman she was forced to marry… but that doesn’t quite change the fact that Stella herself was forced into the same arranged marriage. She was forced to produce a precautionary heir with Stolas. As TV Tropes put it, she’s drowning in the same pool as Stolas, and there’s that whole incestuous vibe going on with Andrealphus going on, implying not so good things. Yet, Stella is given no sympathy, not from the writers, not from a lot of the fans, nothing. I’m not saying Stella is justified in her horrible actions, she’s not, but the fact is a lot of fans just write her off because the writers chose to depict her as this flat villain. There are examples of many villains that would go on to do horrible things but have sad and/or tragic backgrounds that while does not justify their actions, it allows you to understand how they got to be the way they are.
Examples include a lot of the rogues’ gallery from Batman or Spiderman, Azula from ‘The Last Airbender’, Goro Akechi from ‘Persona 5’, Tai Lung from ‘Kung Fu Panda’ or Lord Shen from the sequel, Homelander or Soldier Boy from ‘The Boys’. Hell, Jack Horner from earlier would count. The list goes on and on. There are villains who go on to do the most heinous things, in spite of their backstories, yet they would all go on to have fans who like them.
Which brings to another point that irks me: the treatment the fans of Stella get. If you had been in the Helluva Boss or Hazbin Hotel fandom long enough, you would find that it is not a friendly place. I won’t get too much into it, but let’s just say criticism, good faith or not, was a big no-no, and questioning the questionable choices Viv and her writers make will get you harassed or labeled a misogynist or a homophobe.
When ‘The Circus’ came out, anyone who voiced their liking for Stella got it pretty bad, as fans/stans took anyone who liked her as a problematic person who supports her horrible actions and hates gays like Stolas or something to that effect. While it could be possible that some people do think that, others certainly don’t. And it really sucks because Stella fans get it the worse, especially compared to other abusive characters’ fans, such as Crimson (a homophobic mob boss who flat out hits his son on screen and murdered his wife) and Valentino (a pimp who rapes Angel Dust, a fan favorite). It was ostracizing to many fans who just wanted to enjoy their favorite character.
And I feel as the series goes on, it will probably get worse.
Closing words
So, where does that leave us now?
Well, unless someone from the development side of things speaks up, we will never know for sure what decisions were made that lead to the characters we are given today, but what we do know for certain is Stella got shafted. And shafted good.
An abysmally low screentime of 36 seconds in season one alone. Many ways that her story could have developed, only to go with the most barebone and arguably laziest direction imaginable. Even then, her character archetype was done better by villains such as Jack Horner. Her being an abuser and a possible rapist clashes with the tone of the show, as well as her given character, and again is done much better by other characters.And worse of all, her fans get shat on by other fans of the show.
As of today, she is a one note flat villain who serves no purpose but to make Stolas more sympathetic in spite of all of his problems that are still unaddressed and to now play second fiddle to her brother who literally was dropped into the show with no fanfare but a tweet from over a year earlier. We still have no idea what her relationship is to her daughter, but it is safe to assume that it will probably not be good (or if it is good, it would be because Octavia cannot see how obviously evil Stella or her brother is) and that’s even if it gets touched upon at all.
While there are other issues plaguing Helluva Boss (such as the treatment of female characters, especially Millie and Loona, or the fact that a show about imps running a murder business has hardly any imps running a murder business), Stella stands out as a shining example of how to botch a possibly compelling antagonist, and serves as a bitter reminder of what we could had versus what we have now.
Now, I should state that a lot of this is introspection and opinions on my part, and I’m sure if I were to show this to people on Twitter, they would rip it apart and call me a media illiterate fool who knows jack-shit about anything, and that’s if they don’t try to harass and dox me for talking at lengths about Stella of all people. Who knows with this fandom nowadays,
If you do not agree with any of this, I am more than willing to hear you out, but I won’t promise that I will change my stance. It’s all about having an open dialogue.
As for why I did all this? I cannot say for certain, but I guess I just wanted to share my two cents on why Stella failed so hard as a character for me, and how I wished she could have been so much better than what we ended up getting. That and possibly out of spite to all the people who insulted me for having opinions about this show and how Viv lets all of that bullshit go unchecked.
Well, I guess that is all for now. I guess I will see you all the next time I decide to try and do something like this again. If I ever try to do something like this again. Who knows. Thanks for reading and hearing me out. Also, I do want to apologize if all of this looks wonky to you, first time posting an actual blog and due to the image limit, I had to fix a few things so it would make sense. If there's any issues, let me know.
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helluva-shit-show · 11 months
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Unfortunately, I think a lot of the good-faith critics are feeling this way after that last episode. It's not like there isn't a ton that could be said about the episode, it just feels pointless to talk about. The episode made it crystal clear, there is no good-faith coming from the show, so why waste your time and energy. It's very sad in my opinion, a lot of you guys have infinitely interesting takes and ideas, but I understand not wanting to waste it on media from such a spiteful and vindictive creator. I hope everyone feeling burned out right now can flourish in new spaces, y'alls' takes have been inspiring to read.
Hey guys, it's been a little bit since I last posted. I've just come to make a small announcement that might sorta disappoint you guys.
I'm not interested in Helluva Boss anymore, I still do have the energy to criticize it, but I'm probably gonna drop it when season 2 ends. After watching the latest episode, I just did not care for it. I was bored out of my mind while watching it, and since it's going down in terms of views and terms of story, I don't see any reason to continue watching it after the second season.
The animation error counter videos I'm still going to post to continue growing my channel for future use and maybe the commentary videos using text to speech. But overall, I'm tired of Helluva Boss.
It doesn't seem like it's going to be improving after the second season, I do believe that these two episodes were really the peak of the second season. I don't believe that it's going to get better from here.
In the meantime, I will continue to post a couple of blogs about it. I am posting one about the two fish sisters in the latest episode a bit soon, but I'm probably not going to watch the third and fourth season.
I'm am more interested in Digital Circus right now. Anyway, see y'all till then!
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helluva-shit-show · 11 months
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Can I just say, I love Fizz's new song! Such an anthem for standing up to the haters!
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Also 🎉 welcome to the shittiest party ever, Glitz and Glam. Two more ladies for the cardboard cutout bitch pile. Enjoy your stay, you'll be here forever.
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