#(in case I’m actually an INTJ because I really doubt it at times)

[lieutenant-amuel]

It’s funny how I always assumed that the most “relatable” OC of mine to me was Frida because I basically gave her my personality but now I realize the closest character to me is Emilio.

[mbti-ramblings-and-whatnot]

Trying to type characters from books y’all probably don’t recognise

Or you do know them, in which case outside opinions are helpful :) Even if you don’t know the series, I’ll try to give some examples and explain my reasonings so you can correct me if I’m wrong on definitions or if I’m interpreting things in a not so correct way

Today’s edition: The Mysterious Benedict Society I’ll just be typing the main 4 characters

**beware, spoilers may/will be present**

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Reynard Muldoon: INTJ

Throw away the stereotypes because Reynie is seriously such a sweet kid, he’s never cold and unfeeling. And yet, he’s still insanely logical, so don’t go telling me he’s a feeler.

Whilst trying to type Reynie, there were several problems I encountered. The biggest of which being whether he had Ni or Ti in his top two functions. The reason Ti came to mind is because Reynie’s often asking lots of questions and trying to figure out “why?”. I know that everyone can ask questions, but one of the defining characteristics of Ti is that it wants to understand things, which often leads it to asking a lot of questions about “why?”. He’s definitely highly logical (which led me to call him a thinker), and Ti seemed (at first) like it made sense. However, if he had Ti in one of his top two functions, he would be a Perciever. And my boy Reynie is anything but. He’s the one everyone looks to when they need a plan. He’s the one who comes up with all the plans. He feels extremely uncomfortable when he doesn’t have a plan. I may not be comfortable with anything else I’ve called him, but I know he’s a judger. So, if he’s a thinker and a judger, he has to have Te. That’s just how that works. Although I see lots of Ti in him, he just isn’t a perceived, and Te does make a fair amount of sense. Then, with that problem out of the way, I didn’t even have to worry about dealing with Ni. I know he’s very perceptive to patterns, which can be seen in a scene very early in the first book. He’s taking a test that had been advertised in the paper for gifted children. If I’m not mistaken, he’s the only one who figured out that all of the answers to all of the questions were inside the questions themselves. Qs 1-20’s answers were in Qs 21-40, and vice versa. Of course they were phrased in a way that you had to be paying attention to catch it, but they were still there. And he’s the only one who caught it. So either everyone sucks at picking up on patterns or he’s just got some really high Ni.

And so, the only part left to figure out is whether he’s a introvert or extravert. This kid spent most of his childhood before the setting of the book completely alienated by the other children in the orphanage, and he didn’t seem to mind it much. He was always happy just being able to be by himself in the library, reading a nice book by himself. Although he does greatly cherish his friendships as the novels progress, he still very much feels like an introvert to me, at least.

So, putting it all together, we get INTJ! Feel free to start friendly debates in the comments/reblogs/tags, I’m happy to hear anyone else’s thoughts if they think anything else! Just please keep it respectful!

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Constance Contraire: ENTJ

Very similar to Reynie, I just realised… oh well.

I’m not so positive about much else, but Constance is pure Ni. Her level of Ni makes Reynie look like he wouldn’t be able to notice the pattern in a sequence of circle, square, circle, square, etc. I mean, oh my gosh… just… pure Ni right here. For those of you who are unaware, this book series is focused on the adventures of four children, all who are gifted in different ways. Constance, despite the fact that she advanced very quickly for her age (she was 2 in the first book (I think) and was still able to participate in extremely important ways to things that were going on), is essentially hypersensitive to patterns. Like, she could be in a room and someone could be walking quietly down the hallway and she’d know exactly who it was and where they were, just by picking up on sound or whatever it is. Her brain so effortlessly picks up on all sorts of patters without her even knowing it, which feels a ton like Ni to me. My only issue with this is she doesn’t feel like a judger, she doesn’t appear to me as someone who’d care much at all about organisation or plans, but Ni is dominant or auxiliary only for judgers, and I’m not going to argue with that.

The rest of what I have is only assumptions, and I’m open to hearing other opinions.

I think I heard somewhere (a Frank James video?) that, for example, people whose dominant function is a perceiving function (Ni, Ne, Si, Se) would more often come home from work or school or whatever and, when asked how their day went, they would talk more about the things that happened versus the people and interactions/whatever was going on with them, and the opposite for people whose dominant function is judging (Fi, Fe, Ti, Te). Constance, to me, feels like the kind of person who would come home (or wherever home was at the moment) and complain about how stupid everyone seemed all day and how dumb everything they did was. This would mean her dominant function would be her judging function, which would have to be extraverted if her other highest function is introverted. So she’d then be an extravert. You could also make the argument that if she were talking with Mr Benedict (someone she cares an insane amount about), for example, she’d talk about all the cool things she did. But, I still feel that in most scenarios this wouldn’t be the case, so I stand by what I decided on above. There’s even the argument where (completely ignoring everything I’ve said above, just focus on Exxx vs Ixxx right now) she lived alone in the storage room of a library for who knows how long (several weeks? months?). That definitely feels introverted to me, but it could also be irrationality and fear keeping her down there. I don’t know, other thoughts are helpful.

The last thing we need to figure out is whether she’s a feeler or thinker, or in other words whether she’s an Fe or Te dom. To me, Constance doesn’t seem to care much about what other people want. She’ll steal your ice cream when you aren’t looking, when you’re playing the steal/share game (I don’t feel like explaining it, so for your reference it is described in the first chapter of “The Mysterious Benedict Society and the Prisoner’s Dilemma” (aka the third book)) she’ll choose steal because she wants the other people (her friends) playing to have to suffer the consequences, she just doesn’t seem to care much about caring for others. So this would leave her being a thinker, which although I don’t think I’d necessarily call her logical, she is just a little kid and she really doesn’t feel like a feeler.

So, putting all that together, she’d be an ENTJ. Other opinions are welcome, I’d love to talk about it!

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Kate Wetherall: ESFP

I wanted to call her an ESTP (and she might very well be one), but I’ll stick with ESFP for the purposes of my explanations

Total Se dom, I’m not even going to argue about that. She has insanely good spacial awareness and is very much a hands-on person. One of her special gifts is that, just by looking at something, even for just a moment, she can tell you exactly how long it is. No doubt about it, she’ll know. Once she was down in a storm drain (? I think it was a storm drain) to help a girl get the pencil she’d dropped down there. Despite the fact that it was probably super dark down there, she knew exactly how deep the crack the pencil feel down was. She’s high energy, always looking for adventure, very extraverted. I’m not sure what else to say, but man does she have high Se. At this point a lot of it’s just a feeling I get, but I trust it.

So, if she’s an Se-dom, she has to be an ESxP. The only two options from here on forth are ESTP and ESFP, and for some reason I’ve settled on ESFP. I don’t think she’s super logical, she sort of feels like a feeler… not sure…

I actually have no idea if she’s an F or T, so if any of you know the books, I’d appreciate some assistance!

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George “Sticky” Washington: IxTx

No idea with this kid, I also haven’t thought too much about his… nothing seems to jump out to me as STICKY except for introvert… but that’s not much to go off of…

He doesn’t seem to be very social, he seems like he’d be perfectly happy to spend less time around people (aside from the three people above, they as a group are inseparable, it tears them apart inside to be apart from one another for too long).

I call him a thinker, but I wouldn’t argue if you called him a feeler.

I really have no clue with this kid, assistance would be appreciated!

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So! 

[nexyra]

Hey what are your mbti and enneagram typings for Salem and OG Ozma? I see Salem as an INTJ. She’s maybe an unhealthy 4w3? Taking from his first two incarnations (bc he basically overrided his first reincarnation), I feel like OG Ozma was an IxFJ? He seems like a Fe user. And maybe a 9. I’m not too stuck to those conclusions though. What are your thoughts?

Hello again !

I'll be honest, I had not tried to type these two (mainly bc they don't have a lot of screentime) but I can try to give it a go !

SALEM

Ennea

I think 4w3 makes some sort of sense for Salem 🤔 Considering her issues with grief and not getting what she wants, I think ît's highly likely she has at least one type from the Frustration triad. 4 fits that bill, I don't really see a 7, 1 would work too. Inherently, Salem is dissatisfied with the world she lives in, she's frustrated and feels that she doesn't have what she wants.

HEART. 4 : she want(ed) someone who understood & accepted her. she's unabashedly herself and even when she found Ozma again, she didn't care one bit to pretend or hide who she was (doesn't fit 2/3). she's pretty confident but also doesn't really seem to need the wins for it (doesn't fit 3). she fumes in her negative emotions & experiences, and is currently using them to define herself.

Positive Outlook (2) doesn't fit her at all. Attachment (3) doesn't fit her much either. 2 & 3 are out. Conclusion : 4w3

GUT. 1 : she wants the world around her to fit her standards, very critical of others, some competency thrown in the mix. she seems like she could be a 8 too but she feels much more controlled; and in any case she would be a weird 1 fix since she's quite literally corrupted by the pool of Grimm and thus won't abide by the usual "i need integrity" core fear.

Positive Outlook + Attachment (9) ? No way. 8 could work too but leaning toward 1 for now. Conclusion : 1w9

HEAD. Unsure of her head fix, would need more data.

Conclusion : 6 or 5 ?

MBTI

As for her cf, I never really thought about it... But I could see the Fi-Ni or Ni-Fi I think ? I agree on Ni-Se axis in any case.

IVs

Soc blind

INTJ 4w3 1w9 ? sx/sp

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Ozma

Ennea

This man is a himbo your honor and I stand by these words. This gonna be harder to say because we have like... 1 ep at most to make any conclusions.

I agree Ozma mostly overrid his first reincarnation, but the guy was still *here* in some shape or forms; so it's hard to be certain that Ozma's character wasn't influenced in some way. Considering that he's probably stayed mostly the same...

GUT. 9 or 1 : i feel like the very first Ozma, before his death, might have fitted 1 better. we talk of a man who fought "only for righteousness", and who afterwards still held onto his mission tightly despite his missteps along the way. he wants integrity, to do things right & correctly ("things" being uniting humanity in this case). at the same time, Ozma 2.0 seemed to have a very hard time asserting himself in Salem's vicinity & often ended up swaying to her ideas which seems pretty 9-ish. we could wonder how much of that is due to Salem's manipulation though : no need to be a 9 to fall for people's lies. it still stands that Ozma lacks a bit the rigidity and overly critical side of 1s, as well as the frustration. overall i'm tempted to say that maybe OG Ozma had a 1; and Ozma 2.0 leaned more toward 9; even if it might seem like a cope-out.

Reactive + Reject (8) ? Nah. Frustration + Competency (1) ? 🤔 Not that much either from what we've seen. Conclusion : 9 with a strong w1.

HEART. Not enough data. Not really seeing the 4. Could be either 2 or 3; I'd need interactions outside of his interactions with Salem to know honestly. A couple isn't the most neutral setting, and they were kinda codependant on top of that.

Conclusion : 2 or 3 ?

HEAD. 6 ? : not sure at all, but i guess he was pretty upfront about his fears with Salem (something that came to bite him in the ass afterwards). sure he took a long time before speaking up (9, remember) but he DID confront & speak his doubts into the open : embracing & reacting to the fear. he also readily took to Salem's plans when faced with the enormity of his mission to unite humanity. Ozma doesn't really runs away from his responsabilities, nor does he derive any stress or frustration from the idea of missing out (doesn't fit 7). he didn't seem to feel the need to disengage from the world and from his emotions to be objective & prepare for his task (doesn't fit 5). he leans readily into proposed solutions and what he considers a trusted ally (not couterphobic)

Frustration (7) ? Not really ? Reject + Competency (5) ? Not seeing it either. Conclusion : 6w7

MBTI

I have even less on an opinion on his MBTI than Salem; but I'd actually say that he strikes me as the Fi-est Oz out of the main three. I'd entertain the idea of something else than Fe. ... Fe stills works though, he WAS pretty open-minded about Salem's methods for "uniting humanity" at first.

No clue on axis. Maybe some Si ?

9w1 6w7 ?

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That's all the thoughts I can bring into the open ! Sorry for the major focus on ennea, hope you can still find something interesting in the answer xD

[my-introvert-hideout]

💗 Edogawa Ranpo: ENTP [BSD] 💗

Ne > Ti > Fe > Si

*Based off Season 1 of the anime [Chapters 1-12] with character-based spoilers from the Wikis. I’ve also read a synopsis of “The Untold Story of the Founding of the Detective Agency,” which gives lots of insight into Fukuzawa and Ranpo in particular, and also I know Yosano’s backstory. The Onsen Drama will also make an appearance occasionally. I feel like I have a good enough grasp on their characters for this and will only add more examples rather than changing types in the future. (At least, I think so.)

I’VE ALSO SEEN HIM TYPED AS: INTP, INTJ, ENTJ

Ranpo’s Ne is overwhelming (in a positive way, of course). In contrast to Ni, Ne prefers exploring already-established external ideas rather than focusing on creating a specific one for themselves. As a result, they have a more open appearance / attitude than an Ni-dom. Ne is well-known for its more childlike charm, which is often why people type Dazai as ENTP. (Ranpo’s fabulous extroverted intuition is what caused him to start that pillow fight at the onsen 🤭) Exxx types are more likely to be bored, as well, since they are in the external world. While introverts also get bored, they find that playing in their minds is pretty natural. Ne also prefers to take time working through different ways do go about things; Ni does this subconsciously and quite quickly, especially if Se is higher in a person’s function stack. When discussing what to do about Atsushi’s abduction, Ranpo suggested going to the police instead of pushing for Fe or Te like Tanizaki or Kunikida. Fe and Te are extroverted decision-making functions and Ne is an extroverted idea-exploring and information-gathering function. (His Ti is also very involved in that debate, but that goes without saying!) Ne’s ability to generate a plethora of ideas at once is probably the starting point of how his Ultra Deduction works. Si’s experience, Ti’s logic, and Fe’s understanding of others then whittles those possibilities down. But he’s also a genius. So take that process and amplify it. I’m also trying out this theory that generally someone’s likes and dislikes correspond to whether or not they’re a sensor or intuitive.

LIKES: Logical thinking, fantastic tales

DISLIKES: Common sense, useless knowledge

Literally 100% intuitive things.

Ti is, again, pretty much the deduction function, and is in the same position as Dazai's. During the Yamagiwa-Sugimoto case, both characters identified the killer correctly using this function but relied on different perceiving axes. Ti is also seen as very witty, fast, sharp, and sometimes subtle while Te is more overtly blunt and surface-level since it doesn’t care as much about Fe. I can’t see Ranpo using Te consciously, especially when considering his surprising use of Fe. I think the xNTJ perception of him comes from later on in the series, where he showcases a more serious and leaderlike persona. An ENTP’s shadow functions are Ni, Te, Fi, and Se -- you could think of it as a mini INTJ being inside of them. And if that INTJ-ness is being paired with his more extroverted nature, it’s understandable to peg him as an ENTJ. But still, I don’t think anyone would compare his usual self to Kunikida!

Like Dazai, Ranpo uses Fe for manipulation. However, this is more controlled, mainly directed towards enemies and suspects (or to get people to buy him snacks lol) while Dazai will even play mind games with ‘friends’ and allies. Remember him making Sugimoto cry when he revealed Yamagiwa’s last words? But honestly, I think Ranpo’s parents, Yosano, and Fukuzawa have really helped develop the greatest detective’s Fi. It’s one of the reasons I prefer Ranpo over Dazai; I don’t really have introverted feeling in my stack, so it’s not that I’m drawn to the same function in him. It’s the fact that Ranpo is more transparent about his intentions. Sure, he is a bit secretive in some ways, but he clearly loves the ADA and will do anything to protect those he cares about. It’s even revealed he fully knows that he doesn’t have an ability, but continues with the act in order to keep the harmony of the ADA. On another note, I’m not sure if he kept quiet at the onsen about not beng able to sleep when it’s completely dark: It could be that he was embarrassed about it or that he didn’t want to be an inconvenience. (I seriously doubt he just forgot to mention it until the lights were already out.) But either way, it makes me go 🥺. He also doesn’t resort to lying as quickly as Dazai does. It’s understandable why, but Dazai just doesn’t operate quite like this -- not yet, at least. And similarly to Sir Suicide™, Ranpo uses Fe to create a bit of a mask. It’s not for the same reasons, but it largely produces the same result. AND. I don’t know why people don’t really talk about this, but he took off his hat in respect when he saw Yamagiwa’s body and called her a lady -- without the teasing tone of voice Dazai might have. Maybe I’m just weird, but that scene really makes me happy, for some reason. Praise is also a very Fe-heavy thing, and I’m sure we all know how Ranpo is about praise LOL.

Frankly, Si is an interesting part of his personality. In the main series, it manifests as a distaste of ‘boring’ things, and he doesn’t seem particularly impressed with this function being Atsushi’s go-to. Inferior Si isn’t particularly good at remembering how to do things. Riding trains, anyone? On the other hand, his backstory actually has quite a bit of this. In The Untold Story of the Founding of the Detective Agency, Ranpo refuses to believe Fukuzawa that he’s incredibly gifted -- because he was clinging so tightly to his parents’ teachings. Right before Fukuzawa tells Ranpo that he has an ability, the latter told Fukuzawa to scold him, as he's dealt with it plenty of times already to know where the conversation is heading. (Excuse me while my heart shatters.) Regardless, after the lie, Ranpo ran off to stop the murder from taking place while deciding that ��Since they’re ignorant infants--I’ll have to protect them!” Yes, his trademark cockiness is there, but that Si sense of duty and the Fe wish to protect is clearly present. I’d also like to point out that common sense and ‘useless’ trivia knowledge are literally Si incarnate.

Here’s a short excerpt from Ranpo’s point of view: ‘The reason he gave me those glasses was also for my sake. I’m okay with that, for now at least. Special ability user has a cooler ring to it anyway. (I got praised, so it’s all good.)’ *playing with kitten* “Show me your tummy---!”

Fi Blind Spot: Like Dazai, this is relatively self-explanatory. He values Fi more than the ex-executive, but not to the degree someone with that function in their stack does. I mean, one of his quotes is even about his willingness to turn himself into a demon if it meant the ADA would be fine! That’s a pretty clear use of Fe and a disregard of Fi.

Ne-Fe Loop: ‘An ENTP in an Ne-Fe loop would imagine a bunch of negative future scenarios and lose sight of reality as they fail to apply logic to their unrealistic beliefs. In addition, they become extremely sensitive to others’ opinions of them and are extremely concerned with being accepted by those around them and feeling disliked.’ source Just head on over to  Fukuzawa and Ranpo’s Dynamic.

ᵖˡᵉᵃˢᵉ ᵖʳᵒᵗᵉᶜᵗ ᵗʰⁱˢ ᵖʳᵉᶜⁱᵒᵘˢ ᵇᵉᵃⁿ

[danzinora-switch]

Typing the Turtles (ROTTMNT) Part 2 - Donatello

This started out as an investigation into the turtles’ insecurities, because one thing the show does so well is demonstrate that they are still teenagers. And being a teenager is a confusing experience - there’s angst, drama, exploring one’s identity, a lot of growth, and overall figuring out who you are. That’s a messy process, too! And we see this mess in our turtles: they mess up, they’re learning, they self-doubt, they have fears and insecurities, but they’re also discovering their strengths and how to overcome their inner obstacles.

So after thinking about all this way too long, here’s my psychological breakdown of each turtle (I’ll be referencing MBTI and the Enneagram, but will include links for more general information on those if you don’t know what I’m talking about).

Donnie: INTJ, 5w6

The Architect, the Investigator, the Problem-Solver, the Observer

Firstly, getting into this analysis means that we have to step away from the stereotype that all INTJs are cold, aloof, and unemotional. INTJs, especially Turbulent ones, do express emotion, and we’ve all seen Donnie’s dramatic ‘theatre kid’ side. I’m not going to ignore that. He manages to be both thanks to the INTJ’s tertiary function Introverted Feeling (Fi). Extroverted Feeling (Fe) really allows one to connect and empathize with others’ emotions. Fi, however, is a more internal experience of feelings, and has trouble connecting with others without having been in their shoes. I happen to think Donnie is in a strong Ni-Fi loop, as well, which would make sense because fighting bad guys every day while trying to save the world after discovering a Mystic City which upbends everything you ever knew is pretty stressful. https://www.psychologyjunkie.com/2017/06/21/intjs-loop-understanding-ni-fi-loop/

And it’s super interesting that he often expresses his emotions by literally saying them. “Evil laugh! Relishing chuckle! Gasp!” (Mind Meld) and, one of my favorites, he literally says “Sad face emoji” in Many Unhappy Returns.

So while we DO see Donnie experience and display his own emotions, we also DON’T see him all that affected by other people’s emotions. He’s still pretty stoic in Mystic Mayhem after the delivery guy gets mutated, cracking a joke about imitation crab. He’s unaffected by Todd’s puppies in Repo Mantis, and the only one immune to Warren Stone’s sob story in Warren & Hypno Sitting in a Tree. Pizza Pit shows it best when he’s unaffected when Mikey’s favorite pizza place collapses until the same thing happens to him. Fi at work vs Fe.

As for Donnie being a 5w6, keep this core motivation in mind: “[Fives] Want to possess knowledge, to understand the environment, to have everything figured out as a way of defending the self from threats from the environment.” https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-5

Donnie at his Worst: Donnie vs. Witch Town gave us this gem of a line: “Because I’m the science guy! If mystic powers can do everything I can do, but better, then why would you guys even need me?” And while people have pointed out his need to be needed, I argue it’s a little more accurate to say he has a need to belong. His role in the group is the Brainiac, the Science Guy, the Smart One, and so his very identity is tied into fulfilling that role. A 5’s core fear is of being useless, helpless, or incapable. Mystic powers rendering his tech redundant, and thereby him useless, would be a pretty big threat to the security of his role in the group (that 6 wing kicking in). And remember a 5’s core motivation: to understand the environment as a defense. And he still doesn’t understand mystic energy. It’s pretty infuriating, so he’s pretty insufferable about it.

[Note: seeing mystic power as a threat probably didn’t kick in until their fight with Shredder in Many Unhappy Returns. Prior to that, his brothers were still learning how to use their magic weapons, but Donnie already understood his tech well enough to use it effectively (see their first fight against Baron Draxum in the pilot). But against the Shredder… all his tech was useless. Only the hanky, the hanky, was even marginally effective. His brothers’ weapons were now way more capable than anything he had to offer… core 5 fear. And to cope? Learn all you can about your fear/threat. Except he still hasn’t figured it out; we see even in Air Turtle that he calls Draxum for the mystic expertise instead of formulating his own hypothesis].

We’ve seen this insecurity about his place in the group before. In Mind Meld, as his brothers become more like him, his role is challenged. “Hey, you’re trying to get rid of me, that’s what I do to you!” “But, I thought purple was my... my thing.” When he first meets the Purple Dragon he immediately wants to join them because he sees them as tech peers. In Man vs Sewer even though he professes that it’s his day off, he doesn’t react well whenever Leo does ‘his thing’: analyzing the situation and drawing a conclusion. His self-worth seems to be tied to what he has to offer the group, and we hear that even in his song in The Mystic Library about proving himself.

Besides his insecurity, Donnie is practically allergic to blame. (Interestingly enough, he’s more okay with being wrong and others being right sometimes… sure he’ll deflect, but it doesn’t seem to get under his skin the way being at fault does). He will repeatedly deny fault and shift the blame to someone else when something goes wrong. He denies creating AlBearto in Al Be Back, says the incident with the Purple Dragons in The Purple Jacket is entirely April’s fault (she is not amused) and puts the blame for ditching Todd off on his brothers in Todd Scouts. The one time we see him own up his mistakes is in Mind Meld when no one (except Shelldon) is around to see it. “Yup. I beefed up.” This is definitely an area he needs to work on.

Average Donnie: Donnie cares for his brothers, but that doesn’t always get across in the best of ways. Take the episode Donnie’s Gifts, for example. Donnie never actually got a chance to explain how the gifts work, but we can see protective elements in each of them. Raph: please use your head and don’t just blindly rush in! Mikey: ohmygosh that is so dangerous, please be careful and don’t get hurt! Leo: stop poking the bear, Leo, it only makes him angrier! It makes sense that a 5 who has external fears of the world and has their own protective equipment (the Battle Shells) would extend that to his brothers. And Donnie was able to recognize that even though his brothers got the wrong message, he could move past that and call for a group hug. In the Purple Game he is super anxious to make sure his brothers are okay and not mostly hurt. Insane in the Mama Train also reveals the invention of the Panic Button… and who designed that?

Donnie also seeks a lot of validation. He takes pride in his work, and when his work is appreciated he gives that appreciation back tenfold [such as when he shows off the Turtle Tank to his brothers (Fast and Furriest), or when Splinter says he’s proud of him (Turtle-dega Nights: the Ballad of Rat Man)]. The flip side is that when he’s not getting the validation he needs from others he’ll create it himself, which comes off as arrogant and egocentric. See Smart Lair, when Sheldon 1.0 plays messages of Donnie’s self-worth all night, and is programmed to favor him. Or when he takes full credit for defeating a bad guy: the silverfish in Donnie’s Gifts, and scaring Draxum away with his disco ball in Shadow of Evil. When he gets the recognition for all his hard work from the right people, though, it inspires him to do great things. There is danger in getting validation from the wrong people, however, as we saw in Big Mama’s case in Bug Busters.

Donnie at his Best: Donnie’s at his best (and most relaxed) whenever he’s learning or building something. He gets super excited and happy attending April’s school (The Purple Jacket) or going to the library (The Mystic Library) and wants to attend college someday (The Mutant Menace). The INTJ/5 seeks to absorb information and he’s constantly energized by it.

He’s also energized when he can put that information to use, such as when building something. Did Albearto need a total tear-down in War and Pizza? No. But Donnie had fun making him ‘dazzle!’ How did Donnie cope being in the woods in Todd Scouts? By building an impressive tree fort. Donnie’s projects actually relax him, because he’s exercising his strength and capabilities.

This also works for his method of attacks and plans: Know Thine Enemy. He studies Warren Stone in Newsworthy when they meet him and is the only one who remembers he regenerates by Warren & Hypno Sitting in a Tree. Donnie and Mikey are able to successfully scam Repo Mantis in One Man’s Junk because they know how he thinks. Donnie thwarts everything the Purple Dragons do and can bring Shelldon home because he knows how they operate  (The Purple Game, Breaking Purple). He can restore his brothers to their rightful minds in Mind Meld because he knows himself. 

Also: music. The fact that one of his Battle Shells has a music mode (Mascot Melee), that he remembers things in song form (The Mystic Library, Donnie vs Witch Town), and that he likes to dance (Stuck on You) is so pure and adorable.

Donnie Relationships: 

(while Donnie does see his brothers as dum-dums at times, he admits they’re fun and pretty great to have in Mind Meld)

Raph: We really need a Donnie and Raph episode, but even without one there’s some moments we can look at. I already discussed in Raph’s analysis their general similarities. Donnie doesn’t think Raph always has the brightest ideas, but still has soft moments with him such as giving him $20 at the end of Mind Meld, designing the ‘captain’s chair’ of the Turtle Tank to Raph’s lumbar settings, and appreciating Raph’s pirate accent in Snow Day. They are both protective of their brothers, Raph with his fists and Donnie with his tech. It’s interesting that (I believe) they’re the reverse of each other on the Enneagram: Raph is a 6w5, and Donnie a 5w6. So they both understand the risks involved in what they do (mostly: Donnie still ate poison and Raph still goes on ‘smashcapades’). I really want to see a team-up between them.

Leo: I’m all for the Disaster Twins trope, but to me an episode that epitomizes that isn’t one like Lair Games, where they’re at each other’s throats, but Operation Normal. They’ve apparently done the grandma-getup before. They wind up playing as good cop, bad cop in Fast and Furriest. Sure, one’s high-strung, and one’s laid-back, which can get on each others’ nerves, but there’s also a lot of making up. Brotherly betrayal passes back and forth between them, but never crosses a line. And the numerous times they unconsciously mirror each other can be found with a simple search of the Disaster Twins tag. I’m interested to see more episodes where they work together, even in the background, just because they can get up to wild shenanigans.

Mikey: Mikey’s probably the turtle Donnie most gets along with. They’ve had several episode team-ups: Repo Mantis, One Man’s Junk, Turtle-dega Nights: the Ballad of Rat Man, Breaking Purple, etc. Donnie may be the team academic, but Mikey has strong emotional intelligence. They get along pretty easily, making plans together (One Man’s Junk) and protecting each other (we see Donnie protect Mikey in Repo Mantis and Bug Busters, but we see Mikey protect Donnie by pulling him out of the way in Smart Lair). Donnie helps Mikey focus on the goal at hand, and Mikey helps Donnie communicate better with others. They’re a good team with a pretty solid foundation.

Ultimately, Donnie’s an inventive turtle who wants his brothers to be safe but is still wrestling with a lot of insecurities and unhealthy stress levels. I’m excited to see how he grows into real confidence and utilizes his strengths as an integral member of the team.

For more information on the INTJ and Enneagram 5 personality types, click here:

https://www.16personalities.com/intj-personality

https://www.crystalknows.com/enneagram/type-5-wing-6

https://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2016/01/mbti-and-the-enneagram-2/6/

[funkymbtifiction]

But am I really Fe user at all though?

It’s just some doubt I have recently. It’s weird because I think I’m definitely a feeler and high Ni which leaves only NFJ but a recent event does give me some serious doubt both on my enneagram and mbti...

To be honest, you sound like Hermione Granger, an ESTJ. Let’s unpack.

The thing is, even if the trip is really fun and rewarding I can’t help but notice that I can’t ‘adapt’ emotionally to people the way the rest of my team can. They can tune in so easily to locals the way I can’t. For me, they are … well, contacts and allies. It’s business, even if I do feel really passionate and angry about them getting mistreated by the government. I can’t tune in to them. I see the locals as business partners, long term business partners and I do negotiate on that...

High Te. “It’s not personal, it’s business.” No connection-forming, no mistaking this for a relationship, you are here to do a job and intend to do it.

Other thing is I am terrible at reading a mood and be casual. My Fe using friends are all very easily letting themselves go and be 'fun’ I can’t. Even if I’m drunk. It feels stiff and oddly uncomfortable to crack jokes.

This could be a Te-dom problem also, since you’re having trouble shifting out of work mode into “okay, let’s just have a crazy time now.” (You also might be an Enneagram 1... I kind of get a “everyone should calm down and do their job” vibe out of you, which would prevent casual silliness.)

But again, I’m not detach the way (assuming I’m correct with Ni-aux) ENTJ would be. I’m emotional, very emotional. I’m sensitive and cry easily (over movies and songs) though it often is crying in rage and happiness rather than sadness. But it feels like I empathize very selectively. I can’t always understand what people go through unless I actually go through it. E.g. my crush loses his father and though he didn’t say a thing about it, I can see. But I can’t empathize with him because I think I don’t know what it feels like (though I learn to not complain about my family to him because our issues are equally severe). [...] Other thing is when I’m getting emotional or sad I run away from people to cry alone. I can’t cry in front of people and I can’t show people that I care about them without being bossy. (I do have very commanding tone of voice and when I ask 'are you alright’ it feels more 'can you just get up now?’ but I do really care about my people. I just don’t know how to express it)

I asked my INTJ friend about this since she grew up with an ENTJ and she said it’s common in Te-doms to easily cry over certain things, such as movies where you’re “allowed” to be emotional and people will not judge you for it. The selective empathy is Fi, the emotional instability and over-focus on it is low Fi. Needing to be alone to experience TRUE emotions is Fi. Not knowing how to express the intensity of your emotions of caring for others is inferior Fi-ish.

But... some of the “self-referencing” sounds a lot like... well, high Si.

And when people share things I tend to self-reference or pointing our its ineffectiveness though I try to appeal and soften it afterward. E.g. My ENTP and ESFJ teammates and I were talking about our families and things. I self referenced a lot and when ESFJ said something like … 'I do chores when nobody does it too, but I will complain. I just need to complain but I’m doing it anyway’. I went 'but if you do then why complain, why not just … do’ because in my case I’d do that, complaining is useless and a waste of energy. But I didn’t say it out.

“Complaining solves nothing” -- strong Te thinking. Pointing out how it’s ineffectual -- Te. Appealing and trying to soften it later... could be TeSi, along with being able to hold up small talk and referencing your own life frequently. Si is about experience. Personal experience. Things you have done, seen, learned about, lived through, find important. It’s approaching life on a basis of what is rational, practical, and proven. Sound like you?

But I do focus myself on planning ahead on the info they gather. I know I can never be as good as they are in befriending people so I let them do it freely. And I do what I do best, think and plan.

This could be Te/Ne, honestly, along with you easily morphing to fit what your teammates said about you (they encourage you to be more X, you do it and become more open). So much focus on rigidity, being perfect, getting work done, and shaming yourself for being imperfect is Enneagram 1.

I don’t get people’s emotions at all. Even if I tried I can’t. But I do try to merge and perform though. But it’s really fake. I don’t bend my emotions to match people I just bend my expressions. I do feel connections and people are more important than skills and trades because that’s the fact (no matter how skilled you are, if you don’t know people you can’t get ahead thus skills doesn’t equates success). My emotions are inconsistent, either too cold or too hot. Generally when I get explosive it’s very bad. I rarely get explosive though because it’s thoroughly stupid to let people see it. (people feel slighted -> hate you -> you don’t have any support)

Te/inferior Fi behaviors.

The rest of decisions above all if it concerns my life goals I make it based purely on logic (I need to get to this university because 1. I have the needed resources 2. I can get close to the people I need to be in contact with 3. I can working on the ambitious project outright). Not because I like those people (I do but that’s not the point in the decision making) or because it seems a good place. Simply because it’s strategically advantageous.

Step by step sensible plan, seems TeSi to me. Plus, you said this: Even now, I’m working to balance my short-sightedness (impulsivity, reactivity and seeing things to literal (useful? take it, useless now? discard it) with my intuition (goals, hunches, long-term goals, seeing things to long). It’s contradictory though.

Si living in the present, being short-sighted, and too literal moving toward Ne openness and a desire for long term goals.

ESTJ 1w2 with a 3 fix, I think.

[s-mething-mbti]

Hiya! I just discovered your blog and was wondering if you could help try to type me (sorry this is pretty long)

1. I’m currently pretty torn between the intuitive introverts. I was able to narrow it down to INTJ, INFJ or INTP. I’m about 97.2% sure I use Ni. The only thing that’s giving me a bit of doubt is I find myself occasionally learning for the sake of learning which I’ve found is a traditionally Ne trait. Despite this I’m still pretty sure I use Ni as when I go down a rabbit hole and start learning for the sake of learning its always about a topic that interests me or is entertaining. I won’t waste my time learning about something I find mundane or drab. I resonate a lot with Ni’s “aha” moments where the correct answer simply pops into my head or a vision suddenly seems clear or a plot holes solution suddenly seems painstakingly obvious. I also resonate with starting out with a broader range of information/ possibilities and narrowing it down to one or two things. Another intuitive thing I highly relate to is living in the future. If almost never living in the present, and a constantly fixate on the future. I have a distinct, clear, and well thought out plan for the next 20 years (give or take).

Where I run into a bit of trouble is when I try to figure out which judging functions I predominantly use. It honestly feels like I use them all (though I know you’re only supposed to be able to use two well). For example I plan out everything, and set deadlines for myself. My desk often seems really messy to others especially when I’m doing art. This isn’t because I don’t value cleanliness, but because it simply makes more sense to keep all my art supplies out rather than having to spend at least fifteen minutes taking them out and then putting them away only to take them right back out the next day. I set goals based off of easily measurable, external things such as time, or grades. I make daily to do lists that outline everything I’ll need to do in the day, and some stuff to focus on if I have extra time. With my to do list I also plan out the approximate time each thing should take. When coming up with a scientific theory, I take others opinions/theories and test them against each other, and current scientific laws in order to formulate the most probable theory. External opinions (in a scientific/ logical manner) mean a lot to me (I don’t really care about how people that aren’t my friends think of me). To me these things seem very Te. But then I’m always smiling and am a fairly warm person. I want my friends to be happy, and I want to help others. I despise emotionally driven conflict(though I love debates), and while I’m not afraid to disrupt it if it threatens my morals/ is promoting something blatantly wrong (factually or morally) I do really harmony. These seem like pretty Fe things to me. As for Fi, I rarely share my negative emotions, preferring to deal with them predominantly alone. While I may not talk about them much I also have EXTREMELY strong morals. If something is crossing them I’m not going to simply ignore it for the sake of harmony. While I tend to be private I do try to be as authentic as possible. My morals are derived by information I’ve collected and decisions I’ve made myself, rather than being derived by ‘the groups’ collective morals if that makes sense. To me these things appear to be very Fi. As for Ti, sometimes I enjoy learning simply for the sake of learning. The knowledge may have no practical use to me but if I find it interesting or want to learn about it I can devote hours to it. I try and come to the most logical/accurate conclusion possible, and when I’m offering advice I may offer additional advice that takes different variables into account. The truth is really important to me as well.

2. Reading. I absolutely ADORE reading(specifically fantasy/sci-fi/dystopian books or research/scientific articles about topics that interest me). For reference there was a period of time when I had some free time and I was reading 2 or 3 books a day? Read maybe 50 books in the span of 20 days? But yeah I absolutely love reading. Just he way the book sucks you in and deposits you and a completely new world full of wonder and disaster and ugh it’s just magnificent. And don’t even get me started on impeccable character development and eeee. The way rereading a book feels like you’re reconnecting with an old best friend or going back to your childhood home and *sobs*. I also LOVE trying to predict plot twists and character deaths. Most of the time I can predict things correctly and idk it’s really fun to just try and figure out what’s going to happen before the big reveal. And the rush of satisfaction you get when you’ve guessed something right- it also helps me brace for character deaths (sorta. For example I knew *the* death in the final empire [by Brandon Sanderson] was coming since nearly the very beginning [I had my suspicions since the moment vin was introduced] but I still sobbed when the character died. [a tad off topic but what caused me to cry wasn’t the death itself but another characters reaction to it. This is often the case I find. A death of a character I love leaves me feeling empty but what typically gets me to cry is the others reactions- for thus reason funerals usually make me cry. I should also add that I only cry when I’m alone. I’ve cried around people (that aren’t my parents) a grand total of 1 time.]

Uh and daydreaming. I’m almost always daydreaming. Ie. if my brain was a search engine or whatever one tab would be reality and I would consecutively have at lest 20 other tabs open. Some of then playing videos (daydreams) others supplying music(if I’m not actively listening to real music my brain cycles through songs I have memorized. Occasionally does this with book scenes too if I’m bored [yes, I memorize some of my favourite scenes, word for word, so I can play them like a movie in my head when I, bored) others containing random info (just me thinking random stuff) etc.

3. I guess how to solve some problems? Wether it’s a math or science problem, or an argument between friends, figuring out how to solve things has always been something I’m decently good at. Math and science just. Make sense. And then with issues between people I’m good at looking at different perspectives (even ones that I don’t agree with) and playing out different scenarios/ possible outcomes of different approaches. This lets me come up with a solution that will successfully solve the problem with the least amount of negative ramifications involved

4. Hmm maybe being present? I honestly feel like life is passing me by and I’m just immobilized on the sidelines. Im so far into the future that I kinda forget to actually *live* every once in a while.

5. Honesty? Truth? Morals? These topics are all really interesting as they can be kinda subjective. The line between honesty and cruelty is so small. What is truth? Cause while yes, we have some set truths (such as the earth is orbiting the sun) so many ‘truths’ are simply subjective and completely depend on ones perspective. And morals my goodness. The stormlight archive is a really fun series that plays around with things like what is justice? And honour? I won’t get into it now but it brings up so many really interesting questions regarding morals.

6. Perspective . I think perspective is such a fascinating thing. Just. Different opinions. Seeing the world through completely different lenses. Interpreting the same thing in utterly different ways. When toying around with an idea I find it really fun to try and imagine opposing perspectives. While I can find different perspectives really interesting, they can also well... get on my nerves to say the least. Sometimes someone perspective is just? So blatantly wrong? And has absolutely no factual evidence backing it up? And part of me wants to just just scream and it would be so much easier if everyone just. Assessed the facts in front of them instead of making wild accusations or whatever without anything to support them. But yeah overall I think perspectives are really cool and they’re part of what helps to make the world diverse and life so much less interesting without different perspectives.

The future. I’ve found a bunch of my friends find thinking about the future stressful but if I’m being honest I find solace in thinking about the future. Having things planned out and knowing what I intend to do/ where I want to go takes off so much stress. I lowkey live in the future and I honestly cannot wait till it comes, and I achieve my goals. While I might be a bit scared the future excites me so much more than it’ll ever scare me.

7. Maybe add some more stuff about the judging functions and feelings and thinking etc . I absolutely adore science and math. I literally do math for fun. I’m currently aiming to get my PhD in astrophysics.

Not sure if this is relevant at all but my biggest (harmless) pet peeves are my grandmother’s door stopper (it always gets stuck in the door and then u can’t get it out and the door won’t close properly- I have an unhealthy amount of hatred for that thing AHAHJSEJKSMDJDJDJJ) and when people say some variant of “you did good”. Like nO NO YOU DID NOT DO gOoD. YOU DID W E L L (Anyways theres my little mini rant).

I’m my friend groups therapist (sorta). While I’m really not good with words and recycle the same three responses I always let everyone know that I’m here for them and they can talk to me without judgement etc. While I really don’t know what to say or do I try my best because I care about my friends and want to help them. I love them and so I want them to be able to be happy. Im always smiling (though this is more so because people don’t ask me how I’m doing when I look happy than because I’m genuinely happy. Most of the time I’m he farthest thing from that). I’m a pretty warm person who’s always happy to help, however I’m very introverted. I haven’t had a single conversation with the majority of people in my class (I’ve had a convo with maybe 5. Talk to 2 regularly. There are 26 people in my class). I never express negative emotions (with the exception of stress- I panic intensely in the 5 minutes immediately before taking a test as this helps me to completely turn off my nerves while I’m writing the exam. I may also make a joke or two about my negative emotions with close friends). I should also add that when making decisions I value logic more and think thinks through thoroughly, examining the pros and cons etc. While I take feelings and emotions into consideration when making decisions they’re more like an additional variable to consider rather than the main driving force that determines my decision. If I’m feeling really emotional and I need to make a decision I will postpone deciding until I feel more levelheaded. I’m really not impulsive in the slightest.

Thank you so much!!

INTJ

Living in the future rather than the present and your comfort in that sapce, your ability for and enjoyment of making predictions, your ability to really understand and try on different perspectives you don’t necessarily agree with, your focus on “ramifications” (aka future implications) while problem solving - this all points to high Ni.

You also show a Te preference - goals based on external metrics, to-do lists for daily tasks, logic based on the outer world (external opinion). When you said “While I take feelings and emotions into consideration when making decisions they’re more like an additional variable to consider rather than the main driving force that determines my decision” - that is a clear cut definition of Te over Fe preference.

Your tertiary Fi shows through here as well - willing to disrupt harmony if it upsets your morals, your morals being personally derived, needing to understand your emotions while alone. And lastly, your statement about “forgetting to live” from being in the future is pretty textbook inferior Se. 

[retvenkos]

It got deleted! Fire for the Marauders, Sherlock and SW (any era), guy preference, I'm a girl! I usually hate talking about myself and would rarely share but I'm kind and caring to people. Slytherin and proud. Bookworm who also likes movies. Hate chaos above all, I always have some kind of a schedule in my head. I analyze every detail and am a bit shy, I like being alone but don't mind people. Truly inexperienced in the romantic stuff. INTJ. A bit shy but would making jokes and sarcastic comment

Marauder Era:

I ship you with Remus Lupin!

Alright so you and Remus are the responsible friends of the group, actively bringing down the chaos levels (which, without you, would be insufferable). Together, the two of you bring some semblance of order to the Marauders lives, and trust me, it's much appreciated.

I have no doubt that the two of you met thanks to the bumbling idiot that is James Potter - you and James were paired together for a class in your first year, let's say astronomy, and he gets so behind in the class that the teacher has YOU get him back on track - something about a peer influence. Anyway, you march up to Gryffindor tower to find James and maybe,,,, I don't know,,,, get him to do his homework,,,, and he's hanging outside the portrait hole, making jokes with his friends. You try your best to be reasonable, and your just shy enough to not be rude or anything, but James and Sirius were infuriating first years and they didn't listen to you at all.

When you leave, defeated, Remus runs up after you and tells you he'll try to get James to do his Astronomy homework. You say thanks, and two weeks later, James seems to have taken whatever the brown haired boy said to heart, because he's doing his homework consistently. You decide it's high time you thank this guy for his service, and you start to write him a thank you letter (much less embarrassing than a verbal apology - this way you can't stutter over your words or anything) when you realize you don't know his name. Damn. So now you have to thank him in person, and you approach him before potions. You thank him and he's sheepish and humble about it. Then, before you leave, you make sure to ask him for his name - just in case. Remus Lupin. You tell him yours and that's the end of that.

You see him through the halls in your second and third years, and it isn't until your fourth year that the two of you have reason to speak to each other. You have Potions together, and your partners. For a whole two to three weeks the two of you are pleasant to each other but don't really talk much. Neither of you are great at starting conversations, and it isn't until you see James and Peter pull a very obvious prank on a Slytherin, and Remus cover for them that you actually have something to say to him. "You clearly just lied to the professor." "Me?" And you scoff, but all Remus says is "He doesn't know that, though. Will you keep my secret?" "Sure. Consider it part of my thanks for first year." And you don't think Remus would remember but he does.

After that, the two of you end up talking more, and your crush on the quiet, mischievous gryffindor grows. One time, you hear him arguing with Sirius, defending you, specifically, saying that not ALL slytherins are evil - you certainly aren't.

It's by fifth year that your crush is full blown, and when you have dada with the Gryffindors, you get a little sidetracked by Remus, and when a good friend of yours notices, they tease you mercilessly.

Meanwhile, the marauders are teasing Remus, because he too has a crush on you - one that makes him blush terrible and renders him tongue tied when you're nearby

One day you're walking to the quidditch pitch for the game, and your friend is teasing you terribly about your crush on Remus. You're digging your head into your scarf to hopefully hide your blush, when you run right into Remus. Your friend is quick to fall silent, but you're sure it's a little too late for that. He's no doubt heard.

But.... it's not? Or at the very least, Remus doesn't mention it, just apologizes with a bashful blush and keeps going.

Little do you know, Remus definitely heard it, and now Peter and Sirius are exasperated asking him why he didn't say anything when it was the perfect opportunity. He says it wasn't the right time! You were already thoroughly embarrassed. But now that he knows you like him back.... well, it bodes well for his confidence, which needs all the help it can get.

He approaches you one day in the library, days before the end of school. You're sitting at a table in the corner, actually relaxing for once, a favorite novel in front of you, and Remus hesitantly slides in across from you. For a long while, the two of you just read your own books, until you finish a chapter and look up at Remus. You say you have something for him - a letter, since school is ending soon. You start rambling about how you're going on a trip and it would be fun to write to eachother since you both appreciate history and you'll be going to a few museums and Remus smiles gently and says he'd love to write to you.

You smile, and Remus starts to tell you that he has the biggest crush on you, but he can't being himself to do it, so he talks about his summer plans, too.

When he gets back up to gryffindor tower he's kicking himself because he didn't tell you how he feels, but then he remembers your letter, and he decides to open it.

And in the letter, you tell him how you're almost certain that he heard your friends teasing that day before the quidditch match, when you bumped into him, but in case he didn't (or didn't believe it) you wanted to put the record straight - you like him, and you're terrible with words, so putting it in a letter is the best way you know how to tell him and not completely embarrass yourself.

And Remus runs back to the library to tell you that he got your letter and that he likes you - really likes you - back.

And hell yeah you write letters to eachother over the summer it's vvv sweet.

ANYWAY, you and Remus are a perfect match for each other I'm in love with the idea.

Sherlock:

I ship you with John Waston!

Okay, so both of you have such similar temperaments, I can really see the two of you working out.

You're both introverted, sarcastic, incredibly caring, detail oriented, and bookworms. While John isn't as scheduled as you are (how can you be with a friend like Sherlock Holmes?), he definitely sees the importance in routines and likes doing things in more practical and sensible ways.

Both of you are naturally curious, fairly versatile, and very determined, which makes for a good relationship since your traits and values match up.

I think that John would love the steadiness you being to his life - you are predictable and calm, and you're also independent and able to take care of yourself. John had a lot to worry about on the daily, so the fact that you are reliable is good for him. It allows for a lot of peace of mind.

John would be the one to bring you more in touch with your emotional side - he's a very emotional person, and also very mature. He would bring in a lot of interesting elements to the relationship - simultaneously bringing you out of your comfort zone while also validating your limits and respecting them. You would be an interesting couple to watch.

I love the idea of the two of your writing together for his blog - or you acting as a beta reader and helping him come up with names for each case. The two of you like to sneak in witty jokes and one of your favorite pastimes is seeing how many nonsensical things about Sherlock you can include.

Also! I imagine that your rational though process and your attention to detail is helpful in cases, sometimes, since Sherloxk can get so caught up in the moment and disregard certain elements that might have come in handy. Otherwise, you're great at remembering little things to put in the blog, which makes Sherlock smile.

And may I suggest..... watching movies with John Watson. For once, he is glad he doesn't have Sherlock talking in his ear, going on about the inaccuracies or about how ridiculous it all is. BUT, he finds himself telling you some of the things that Sherlock would say, and the two of you talk through the movie, chatting about what tropes you think are washed up, and what dynamics you love to death.

When you read, though, it's a different story and the two of you are quiet. John will make you a tea or coffee and you spend the day on the couch, just reading and enjoying the other's presence.

Star Wars:

I ship you with Commander Cody!

Alright, but we support clones on this blog, and commander Cody is one of the best clones.

First of all, both of you are very similar. Both of you are smart, determined, thoughtful and versatile people who would work well in sync with one another. You're not the most trusting of people, but one your loyalty is earned, it's earned for life and you would lay down your life for the other. You are both strong willed people, and yet you also carry a deep tenderness to you.

Cody absolutely loves how well read you are - he loves to listen to your stories (especially if they have a good, soft ending) and he loves the way you look at books - the little details you remember, the ideas that you hold onto. It's a great escape for him, listening to you talk about the novels you've read or listening to you read aloud. This world goes so fast and there's so much evil that he sees, so to hear something good - something slow that progresses to a happy ending - means the world to him. It's a little bit of softness he allows himself.

He also loves your shyness. He thinks it's cute, how someone so smart and strong - someone who by all means should have a healthy amount of confidence - is quiet and mostly goes under the radar. It's also a nice compliment to his more commanding presence.

You are both just humble enough to have great respect while also being just outgoing enough when you're in the right setting, and it's perfect. There's never confusion between the two of you over why you're more quiet in some places or more extroverted in others. You just understand the other.

You are also just so caring of others - Cody cared for his brothers more than anything in the world, and to find someone just as caring is good for him. He loves with his whole heart, and he's glad you do, too.

Oh, and the two of you together? The most sarcastic - the galaxy was unprepared for your combined energies, and it's been unstable ever since.

I also can't get enough of you together in the field - maybe you're a Jedi or a recruit pilot or something, but the two of you fighting together is peak. You're both smart and practical in your approach to things, and you're also very determined and ambitious - you would always have each others backs and you approach problems in the same way, so you work efficiently as well.

But, then again, the quiet moments the two of you share are pretty sweet - you force Cody into watching movies with you, and he actually gets really into them. He loves sci fi and fantasy, and he probably really likes silent films or foreign films too. Idk why, I just get the vibes.

Oh! And if you ever want a good laugh, ask Cody about the shenanigans that Obi-Wan pulls througho it the day. He gets so exasperated by all the little things that the Jedi pulls, and listening to him rant about them is very funny.

[ill-be-istj-if-no-one-else-is]

Hi em! Recently my friend, who we thought to be an intj, had some doubts about her type and since you've also helped typing me, i thought it'd be best to ask for your input in this. she's not very good at describing herself and doesn't know how to word things without it sounding like she's just listing facts, so I'm just going to describe her from how i perceive her to be. (1)

she's a very quiet person usually who observes more than she engages, as she doesn't really see the point in engaging with people she doesn't care about. she has friends she's known for years, but still keeps at a arm's length because they aren't very interesting to her. she tends to feel self conscious around other people and often tries to act more fun and open than she is, but that often resulting in her feeling drained by social interactions. (2)

It's a bit difficult for her to actually sit down and study for something, since she's used to being naturally smart. we think it's her being a 5w4 that always makes her feel like she has to be immediately perfect at something. she likes to organize and things not to me too messy, but has more of a live and let live attitude. she has this thing where she really dislikes being touched and often forgetting her surroundings since she's very in her head all the time. (3)

she's naturally very gifted at learning languages and is thinking about going into translating since it's the field she's most confident in. but her short term goal is pretty much just to move out so far lol she has trouble relating to anyone she doesn't care about and while enjoying fiction, usually latching on to one or two people that pique her interest. she's a very fashionable person, but dresses more modestly because her self consciousness. i hope i gave you enough info! thank you!! (4) 

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Hi anon,

She’s introverted and probably a thinker but that’s about all I can get - INTJ is definitely a likely possibility, but I can’t be definitive. I’m a little curious about what “just listing facts” would sound like since provided there’s some evidence as well, that’s really what is most useful for typing - information about the person’s behavior. If it’s being presented by them, it’s also somewhat useful to have an understanding of their own interpretations of themself, but if it’s being presented by someone else it’s not since those interpretations will be more indicative of the writer than the person I’m trying to type.

I will say that she’s almost certainly not a 5. 5s actively want to study - study and mastery is their way of feeling prepared, and while I’ve been fairly critical of 5s in the past they do put in a lot of effort (even though that effort is misplaced) rather than expecting to be good from the start. What you’re describing sounds a lot more like what many students who were bright enough to excel without much effort experience when they finally reach a point where they can no longer do that; it’s definitely very real but it’s not indicative of a specific enneatype (although I wouldn’t be surprised if 1 or 3 are a little more likely to have this feeling, though they also will probably do the work).

To go into why I think she’s an introvert and thinker:

-drained by social interactions

-not particularly good with social interactions

-prefers observation over engaging. This can also point to a lot of things (it’s more likely in intuitives and in introverts, but plenty of introverts who are sensors do this for various reasons), and since she’s pretty clearly an introvert that can serve as the main explanation

-has friends she doesn’t really engage with or get close to because they’re not interesting. I have to wonder if you’re fairly young (still in school) because for the most part once you’re an adult it’s hard enough to keep in touch with good friends, so this might be a case of people she’s vaguely friendly with but only because of proximity and once you’re no longer classmates she won’t really keep it up.

-dislikes being touched is more likely a personal thing than anything else; there are a lot of causes for this.

-the rest (wanting to move out, liking fiction) are too common to really indicate anything on their own

-not relating to people she doesn’t care about - unless I’m misinterpreting that’s just what not relating to people means. It’s kind of like “I’m only passionate about something if I’m interested”, like yeah, no one’s passionate about things they aren’t interested in, interest is a prerequisite to passion just as caring about something is a prerequisite to relating to it.

If she has some more information about herself in her own words that would likely be much more helpful. Information about why she does some of these things (in her own words) would especially be helpful.

[mbtizone]

Main Character Syndrome & MBTI

I’ve been thinking a lot about why certain characters can seem impossible to type. Sometimes, it can be really difficult to type a character when the writers haven’t really taken the time to give them a concrete personality. I notice that this seems to happen a lot with main characters specifically, which seems ludicrous, doesn’t it? I mean, if we’re watching a show, we’re supposed to root for the main character. We should feel as though we have a sense of who they are. However, many main characters are very poorly written. They’re defined in terms of what happens to them. We know them by their situation and their story. But their story isn’t who they are. Often, I find that their cognition will change in order to suit a storyline, which seems to happen less with supporting characters. Supporting characters tend to be very solid in terms of cognition, while main characters are all over the place and contradictory. I find it frustrating because it’s lazy.

I am starting to believe that certain characters can’t be typed. If you can see arguments for nearly every function in a character, then sure, you can try to narrow down which ones they use most frequently and pull a type out of that, but in the next episode, you’ll probably doubt yourself or change your mind. If you find yourself in this situation, it’s probably not you. It’s likely more of a reflection of the author/screenwriter than it is of your typing abilities. I’m going to run down some specific examples of this problem off the top of my head.

Elena Gilbert: Man, Elena is rough. I’ve seen her typed as an ISFJ, INFP, ISTJ, INFJ, etc. The only thing people seem to agree on is that she leads with an introverted function. I would have to agree with that. I will say that I see more Si/Ne than Ni/Se. However, she’s extremely damaged, which may make it more difficult to type her. If you look at her life prior to losing her parents, she seemed very different, so how much of what we see is her true self and not muddied by all of the tragedy in her life? Elena is so inconsistent. She’s a giant ball of contradictions. I think a lot of people stereotype her, and, I can’t say that I fully blame them for that because there’s not a lot else to really go on. I can make arguments for both Fi and Fe, but if I were being forced to make a call one way or the other, I would probably go with Fi. Where Fi is in her functional stack… I really couldn’t say at this point in time.

In the six seasons that Elena was on the show, she really wasn’t developed very well at all. It seems that the writers relied too heavily on what other people do to her and what happens to her and not enough on defining who she is. She’s probably the best example of “Main Character Syndrome” that I can think of. She lost her parents. She’s a piece of meat in an alley and the Salvatore brothers are a couple of stray dogs. She’s a doppelgänger. Elena is a Mary Sue. I was never really able to root for her because, after six years, I honestly never really felt like I knew anything about her other than those facts. She’ll do anything to protect the people she cares about, but that’s not really a defining trait. As a matter of fact, that’s probably true of most people. She prioritizes the people who are close to her over strangers or people she doesn’t know very well. It’s hard to analyze her character and pull a personality type out of it when she’s just kind of all over the place.

Lucas Scott: Lucas is usually typed as an NF, most often INFJ or INFP. I’ve watched all of One Tree Hill more times than I can count over the years and I still find myself wavering on whether Lucas uses Fi or Fe. He can appear to use both functions at different times. He sometimes clings to his moral judgments and can become extremely critical of those who fail to measure up, but he is also good at articulating his feelings and giving speeches about them, and has ideas about the way things “should” be. I think that I see more Fi in him than Fe. I have a theory that when he appears to use Fe, it’s actually Fi. Lucas has strong ideas about the kind of person he is (or wants to be), and because he sees himself a certain way, he can take on some stereotypical Fe traits. Lucas cares about people and, for him, it is important to express that to them. I don’t think he expresses himself because he feels that’s the appropriate thing to do. I think he does it because that’s the sort of person he wants to be. It’s not really for other people’s sake, it’s for him. He wants to live up to his own personal ideals. However, when I try to look for the Te, there is virtually none in him. Honestly, I see a stronger case for Ti in him than Te. But, he obviously can’t be both Fi and Ti. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe his morality isn’t decided internally. It’s really difficult for me to decide one way or another. As I’m writing this, I’m thinking of certain instances and going, “Oh, you know, maybe he is Fe after all.” I can’t make a call either way with any real certainty, so for now, I won’t.

Now… is he Ne-Si or Se-Ni? This is an even bigger struggle for me to lock down than Fi-Te/Fe-Ti. Lucas has an appreciation of symbolism and he’s extremely insightful. He can see people for who they are and has inherent understandings about things. I don’t really see Ne in him but I do see Ni. I can see a case for inferior Se in him, but is he really Ni-dom? And, if he were Ni-dom, he would have to be an INFJ, and I’m not ready to label him Fe just yet. He’s definitely not an INTJ. If he uses Te at all (which is a big “if” for me), then it would be low in his stack. I can’t come up with a single function that he absolutely, undoubtedly uses.

Aria Montgomery: Beyond being an Fi-dom, what other functions does Aria really use? There really isn’t enough evidence to support Se, Ne, Si, or Ni. She’s defined by her relationship with Ezra, but her personality is pretty bland. She’s “artsy.” I’ve seen people use her interest in writing and photography as support for both Ne and Se, which is weak and stereotypical. She makes stupid short-sighted decisions sometimes, like having an affair with her teacher, but I don’t feel like that’s evidence of Se. I’m sure you can find Ne users who have, or would be willing to have a sexual relationship with a teacher. Doesn’t mean they’re not Ne. A repeated argument I see to “support” INFP is her love of old movies as though no Se in the world enjoys older films. All of the reasonings I’ve seen have been extremely superficial and weak. I believe this to be a result of people desperately trying to fit her somewhere, when, in reality, she is just a poorly written character. Spencer, Hanna, Emily, and Alison are all reasonably fleshed out characters. I’ve never seen Hanna typed anything other than ESFP. Spencer is mostly typed ENTJ, but I have seen the occasional ESTJ, but the general consensus does seem to be ENTJ. I’ve never seen Emily typed as anything but ISFJ. I’ve never seen Alison typed as anything other than ENFJ. This isn’t because everyone jumps on the same bandwagon. It’s because there’s evidence and consistency. Aria, on the other hand, is defined in terms of her relationships and what happens to her. Is there really more to her than that?

Dawson Leery: Sort of like a less tolerable late ’90s Lucas Scott. I see him typed as INFJ or INFP, just like Lucas. I can’t justify him being Ni-dom, though. I lean towards INFP for him because he has that strong moral code and a tendency to chastise anyone who violates it. He can be so judgmental with people when they make decisions he disagrees with. Dawson sees a lot of things as black and white. He can also be pretty selfish with his emotions. And I can see a stronger case for inferior Te than inferior Se. If someone were to ask me what type I think he is, I would probably instinctively say INFP, but if I were asked to explain why, in any kind of detail, I would probably be at a loss.

Sam and Dean Winchester: Ugh, Sam and Dean. I love them to death, but they give me such a headache when it comes to MBTI. I’ve mostly seen Sam typed INFJ, INTJ, and INTP. I definitely think that he’s a Fe-user, and I don’t think it’s inferior, so I’m more inclined to subscribe to the INFJ typing, but I’m still trying to gather enough evidence to actually do a post for him. A lot of people think he’s Fi because he carves out an individual identity from his family away from hunting, but I don’t think that argument is strong enough. Fe-users are capable of doing that. Leaving home and carving out a new life for himself could stem from Ni instead of Fi. Though, there are also times I think he might use Si instead of Ni. All of the “evidence” I’ve seen in the various typings for him that I’ve read seem flimsy and like they’re really just trying to make something fit him, so as of right now, I don’t really know anything for sure when it comes to Sam. My opinion varies episode to episode.

I see Dean mostly typed as ESTJ, ESTP, and the most ridiculous one in my opinion, ESFJ. I believe that he’s definitely Fi/Te, so I don’t think that he’s an ESTP and definitely not an ESFJ, but I’m not completely sold on him as a Te-dom, either. I’ve always been mostly torn between ESTJ and ESFP for him. I think a big problem with the Winchesters is that Supernatural has been on the air for so long that their personalities seem to go through a lot of changes over the years. Maybe it has to do with different writers coming on, I’m not really sure. They’ve also been through a lot and are far from healthy, which makes things pretty difficult as well.

Klaus Mikaelson: ENTJ or ESFP? Most days, I will declare Klaus an ESFP with absolute certainty, but every now and then I find myself watching an episode of The Originals (or an old episode of The Vampire Diaries) and second guess myself. My problem with him is that I see more of a case for dominant Se than dominant Te… but I notice more signs of inferior Fi in him than inferior Ni. I’m going to have to launch a massive character study to determine his type once and for all because he drives me crazy.

Ted Mosby: I sometimes see him typed as an INFJ, but the main argument in those typings seems to be his long-term goal of getting married, as though that can’t also be true of a Si-dom. Does his goal come from doing what is traditional and expected of him (Si) or because that is simply the vision he has for his life (Ni)? What is his motivation? There are sometimes cases to be made for inferior Se in him, though. I’m actually pretty evenly split on Ted. Let’s take the story that he’s telling his kids. Very detail-oriented. Very specific, vivid memories (which he sometimes tends to remember subjectively rather than objectively). However, he sees how all of these memories are connected to build a larger, overall picture and has a strong concept of symbolism. He’s future-focused and has a clear visual of the life he wants for himself, yet he is also hung up on the past and tends to hold onto old relationships instead of moving forward (Karen, Victoria, Robin). He even keeps all of the stuff he has received in his past relationships in his apartment because they remind him of specific experiences. He’s both a realist and an idealist. He’s grounded and his head is in the clouds. Past-focused and future-oriented. Out of every character I’ve had to decide between Si and Ni for, Ted probably gives me the most trouble.

I’m currently rewatching episodes of One Tree Hill and Pretty Little Liars in order to definitively type Lucas and Aria. After that, I’m going to try to tackle Elena and Klaus… and then the Winchesters. Ted will probably come sometime after that. Dawson is probably going to take a while, because while I loved Dawson’s Creek, I don’t know if rewatching the series is actually worth sitting through Dawson himself. I consider him to be one of the most insufferable television characters in history, so, while I find the show entertaining and I like the other characters, I always have a heavy feeling when I consider watching it again because he just annoys me to no end.

Main Character Syndrome & MBTI was originally published on MBTI Zone

[funkymbtifiction]

My experience as an ENFP 1w9 p6w5 2w3 sp/so

SUBMITTED by filvet

[Gif: Vincent from The Originals, a 162 ENFP.]

I’ve been a fan of funkyMBTIfiction for a while now, but I’ve never submitted anything more than a few asks (maybe more than a few LOL), because… well, give me a few minutes and you’ll find out yourselves.

Let’s start with my core type: I’m a 1. Even though I’m an ENFP, and finding this out has been SO hard, for both me and some of the mods, I’ve never had any doubts about me belonging to this type since first reading its description. I ALWAYS see how the things around me could be better, I’ve got some very strong morals (1 and Fi work very much in tandem in this case) and, even if I’m a Ne-dom, I’m much more grounded and focused than your usual ENXP, which explains why, when I took those really inaccurate online tests, I always got INTJ or ISTJ for my MBTI type.

Did I mention that being a 1 is hard as heck? It is, because those two small letters that represent my instinctual variant, “sp”, mean that my inner critic is much harsher on myself than on others. Things around me could be better, sure, but I am the one whom I should really work on. I made a single mistake on that test, shame on me. I haven’t become a perfect guitarist in the two months I’ve played, better drop the instrument altogether since it’s not worth it (meaning, I’m not worth it). I even get frustrated about the fact that my blood analysis, which are those of a completely healthy young man, usually have a single value that is slightly off, even if it means nothing for my health.

And then there’s my wing, which is both a gift and a curse. 9 brings a certain warmness and peacefulness to 1 and its ever present annoyance at an imperfect world, which has helped me to not be hated by all my friends for pointing out even minor details that are off. Being a 1w9 means that when other people are involved, I’ll probably get frustrated for three seconds, then I’ll swallow the anger and be chill about it. They don’t get the full blast of 1’s critical voice, only I do. But there are two problems that come along with this wing: one is that I find myself not even trying stuff because I know I won’t be perfect at it. This usually happens with physical activities, like sports: “It’d be cool to play volleyball, it’s a nice sport” “Buuut… You know you suck at sports” “Ok, I guess I won’t play volleyball, then.” And sadly, with 9 being just a wing, it can’t override 1, so even if it would be just for fun and it wouldn’t matter if I sucked or not, I can’t bring myself to just live in the moment and enjoy it without much thought.

The other problem is one that I’ve already briefly mentioned: the 9 wing makes me swallow my anger. So we have my core type that is ashamed of anger because it doesn’t fit its idealistic world, and a wing that is too chill to get angry. So, I swallow my anger and puff, it seemingly vanishes. It would be nice if it worked like this, wouldn’t it? Instead, it becomes self-loathing and awful self-esteem, something that I’ve battled most of my life, especially after being bullied during middle school. During those times, when I probably was disintegrating to 4, I was extremely fragile, like, everything could hurt me, and hence I tried as much as I could to differentiate myself from the rest of my peers. But how did I do that? Trying to be as perfect as possible at the one thing that I was already good at: school. See? Still a 1 deep down.

Also, for all my life I’ve reckoned to be on a journey of self-improvement, which is something that is quite common in ENFPs with a core 1, apparently.

Let’s add the rest of the fixes to the mix, shall we? I’m quite sure about the second, p6w5. I debated about 5w6 for a while, but while I was a bit “brainy” and intellectual when I was younger, that was more an effect of the behavior I put forth to battle bullying than the actual way my brain works. Instead, the more time passes the more I recognize I’m quite the anxious wreck. Obviously, university and exams are stressful for anybody, but p6 brings that anxiety to another level. I’m often so anxious that I respond to stress with a wide variety of physical symptoms, which is quite unpleasant. But even as a child, I remember seeing my schoolmates play “dangerous” games like climbing on trees (I know, so dangerous) and all I could think about was them falling and getting hurt. That played perfectly into my core 1, making me all moralistic about it and turning me into the perfect child/miniature of an adult that I’ve been for practically all of my childhood. The combination of p6 and 1 makes me worry that I’ll never be able to integrate to 7 (see? I’m so anxious that I worry I’ll never not worry. Please send help).

I’m much less sure about my last fix, and I’ve debated all three of the Image types. I see parts of myself in all three of those (thanks, Ne), but ultimately I’d say I’m a 2w3. Helping others has always made me feel very accomplished, but I won’t deny that I sometimes do it not just for the pleasure of doing but to be liked and win somebody’s affection. At last, we have the minuscule 3 wing to the last fix, which is only present in my desire to look put together and accomplished and in how I use competition with those who are clearly better than me at something to motivate myself to improve and reach their level.

To sum it up, what does it mean to be an ENFP 1w9 p6w5 2w3 sp/so? It means I have a grounded and perfectionistic mind, that if necessary can focus and pay attention even to minor details, but it must be a conscious effort and as soon as I stop doing consciously I go back to being the forgetful mess I usually am; it means I’m an anxious person who thinks the situation is going to end badly and won’t know how to take that mental image out of his brain. It means I’m one of the warmest and friendliest 1s you could ever encounter, thanks to 9, 6, 2 and the second instinctual variant being so, that I’ll be fair if you ever come to me asking for advice and I’ll be extremely happy to help you. When dealing with me, respect my values, remember I can see through your lies, even those you tell yourself, keep in mind how harsh I can be with myself and soothe my anxiety without belittling it. Or don’t do any of these things, I am my own responsibility after all, and I’ll deal with my weaknesses till I fix them.

[whydoyouthinkileft]

@lovelornrocketscientist replied to your post “okay but every time I try the Myers-Briggs test lately for Jemma I get...”

The fact that social interaction makes her tired and she prefers to socialize with a small group of close friends is really what makes her an introvert. Introverts don't all only like to stay at home and not be around people. It has to do with what gives you energy. Extroverts are energized by being around others not drained by it. Honestly, I think she's INTJ. I'm married to an INTJ and he is the male version of Jemma Simmons, tbh.

uhh I like all of your comments, and I made the tragic mistake of waking up too early and try to nap during the day so forgive me if I misspell anything or who knows what else, but I’m going to answer all at once here

under the cut because it became very long lol I’m sorry Maddie!

I’ll answer the arrogant post first because there isn’t much to say and then write an essay on the other lol I usually write her as arrogant when it comes to her work. As in she is very aware of her knowledge and also her abilities (biochemistry and also in being able to manage subordinates at the lab, for example, but at this point you can add confident that she will make it during missions, that she can pretend to be a different person) and she can have an attitude that I’d call arrogant especially with people she doesn’t like. I write her as having that kind of relationship with Burrows too lol and being also smug, and proud of herself. Also she probably comes off as such with people who work in shield outside of the team (snapping at Nathanson in that way ‘they have more reasons to be here than you’, reminding Fitz and others she ‘won’. She can fits the pattern of insolently proud often, especially when she’s not emotionally devastated like in s2) BUT, on the other hand, she’s extremely insecure in most of other areas. If she’s not a master in something, then it’s likely that she’ll see herself as worse than it is, have a low opinion or low expectations of her results too (it was due to a mix of feelings, but the fact that the first time she really dealt with a medical emergency, Skye being shot in s1, and did everything perfectly well and yet the first comment we heard was ‘I’m a mess’ and Coulson had to reassure her is so Jemma). So basically I think this is part of me writing her with no chill, more often than not there is no middle ground in her reactions: either she’s cocky/smug with people she doesn’t like and confident/proud of herself with those she likes in some areas (if a bit annoying/teasing like when she teases Fitz about having been first place at the academy at last) or she’s extremely insecure and doubts herself in other areas, like emotional ones, or things she didn’t prepare for. 

For the introverted/extroverted thing, I wrote:  and while I don’t think she’s necessarily introverted, that she gets particularly tired in social situation for example, what I meant was that I was thrown off by the fact that she got an E instead of an I, but it’s not because I think she has to necessarily be introverted, it’s not vital headcanon, because I also don’t think she gets drained by social interaction, her behavior doesn’t necessarily screams to me that she is introverted nor the contrary, and her getting energies from being alone instead of being in group wouldn’t exactly change much how I write her. Exactly because like you pointed out, someone’s behavior (liking to be among people, striking conversations with strangers, being good at socializing) isn’t automatically connected to it. People can easily assume that I’m extroverted from the fact that I talk with EVERYBODY when outside, I go into a new class? I befriend everybody, I’m loud, I’m enthusiastic, I seem to have fun at parties, I’m happy to be out etc and people think the two things are connected, meanwhile I’m one of the most introverted people I have ever met and need weeks at time to recover from socializing even if I’m good at it, it destroys me even if I have fun, I like big groups, I do better in small ones, but I’ll do fine either way and then need to recharge a LOT. So while at first I was unsure about Jemma being Extroverted, I usually picture her as preferring stereotypical introverted behaviors, but technically we don’t have a canon proof that she’s drained by social interaction that I can think of? Nor we have proof that she isn’t?  Personally, I think she might be halfway, she doesn’t get particularly drained at all, not the way I do, actually I think she might get energized when talking to lots of different people but it depends on circumstances and what she’s doing; but at the same time she does prefer going out with ‘smaller’ group of friends, though small is relative, for me her group is already big. But regardless of what I believe,  I think the test gave me her as an extroverted person because of two reasons 1) I wasn’t very firm (in a ‘completely’ disagree/agree sense) about how she feels in certain situations because, again, she’s not as extreme as I am and 2) I have the feeling that the answers used to calculate her introvertedness were questions that also involved her ability to give orders/be a boss/manage people/deal with emotions/be self-aware of emotions etc  and she was counted more as extroverted due to her managing abilities. (and hey, when I write Jemma, whether it’s true or not, I make her a very competent boss. At least in her area of expertise, so pre-s1 and between s3 and s4

and the more she started taking control of her life and feeling better, the more easier for her was to deal with people/things. 

and in that site there was no male version, but I started being doubtful because on one hand it very much fit: liking to be in charge, to organize things, likes lots of planning, not so good at dealing with emotions, not so delicate with subordinates, a bit arrogant etc. But because often those traits are also accompanied by being the same in relationship, I felt the need to point out some of the differences because Jemma -and your hubby from what I read! - also doesn’t bring *that* attitude on her personal life, so yes, the tests can’t always fit all details.  Is it ‘effect alone’ the English term for when people assume some personality traits based on others they know? like often they see someone beautiful and associate that with ‘kind’, ‘generous’ or if someone is ‘sarcastic’ they could see them also as ‘disrespectful’ and ‘reckless’? (my best friend is sarcastic and also extra polite in class and careful and doesn’t break rules, but also daring at work, there are no ‘given’ automatic associations of traits) Because I feel that it happens in the fandom too a lot (for example: the current vision of Jemma I’ve seen is to be the one who constantly cleans after you, nags you about only eating healthy and I don’t see that at all? not because I’m personally against the character, one of my fave from another tvshow would do it, but I cannot picture Jemma getting into someone else’s business like that without finding it rude, and if Fitz doesn’t leave shoes in front of the door and makes her trip, I don’t see her as someone who would scold him or pick up his stuff without permission, nor I’d see her side-eyeing someone from indulging in trash food. Yes, she will buy you healthy things especially if someone else already got you a cake, but she also indulges in beer to reward herself from a mission, a lot, and if anything I always had the feeling that while she remembers to take breaks when working in company, she’s the one who needs to be reminded to be healthier and like, drink water. I see her as keeping her stuff tidy and being a Mum Friend when it comes to making breakfast for people or checking on them, but not as an actual mother or believing to be)

 and in this case it happened in the test too, because like you said, not understanding her own emotions too well, liking challenges at work and to be stimulated, doesn’t mean that she will also not be empathetic (or that she always is either) or that friends and boyfriends have to constantly challenge her in a way that seemed even stressful to me when I read the test (I think for example she feels challenged mentally by Daisy’s creativity and particular enthusiasm and approach of life, Daisy doesn’t have to stress herself out keeping her mentally stimulated to keep being interesting, she’s inherently interesting to her and that makes her a friend, among other things) and there were a few sentences also repeating the concept that it’s hard for ENTJ (And I’m assuming INTJ people too) to keep their friendships and relationships exactly because they are so high-maintenance and ‘cold’ and demand so much also from their children because see themselves in their achievements and I don’t see that in Jemma at all, to me it’s coming from assuming that she’d behave the same way in different circumstances. Or maybe it’s just due to my headcanons about her and her family, idk? I think once she loves you, it’s not that difficult for her to ‘keep’ bonds and she doesn’t demand much at all, season 2 was an anomaly due to extreme circumstances. And her mother acted with her exactly the way the test says she would, so there is that too. 

I should read more tests results from other sites to understand it better, but even when you post things she seems to fall right into it (also because usually INTJ and ENTJ people are not that different from what I can see and seriously, given that the most noticeable difference in titles is that she’s a ‘commander’ in one, I think that E depended more on her interest/ability in being in charge than her preference between small or big groups in real life and where her energies come from, from people or alone-time)

[mirashinofficial]

Attack on Titan MBTI -- Moblit Berner

ISFJ -- Moblit Berner

“The Defender”

This seems like a great time to preface something:

I plan on doing all of the characters in the SNK series that have any kind of decent significance--enough to be able to figure out their MBTI.  Therefore, there will be some personality types that will repeat.

Actually, I feel that ISFJ is a relatively common type for characters in anime/manga in general, but I think Moblit might actually be one of the best examples I know of.

Anyway, as always, this is a spoiler-filled post.  Enjoy, but be wary.

The title of “Defender” seems appropriate for Moblit based simply on what we mostly know him for:  his protective nature, especially in regards to Hanji.  

--Moblit is supportive

As an Assistant Squad Leader...well, I feel that just saying his title is explanation enough.  He plays a support role, and he's often seen giving advice to Hanji and other characters.

--He is reliable and patient

I mean, god, he has to be, right?  Patience is a requirement when working with Hanji, and he's always there to pull or push her out of danger's way.  But he doesn't limit that to just her--he's also verbally demonstrated these traits toward Levi and his squad during the beginning of the political arc.

--He's observant

Again, working for Hanji, he has to be--and it's not just to keep her out of trouble. He's working as an assistant to a scientist, so having good observation skills is a must for that squad.  I'm sure that the other members of Hanji's squad also shared this trait to some degree!

--He's enthusiastic?

I know, I know. But hear me out.  Enthusiasm doesn't always shine through in the same way extroverts like Hanji or Eren show it.  However, it does show.  Don't forget that Moblit constantly fought alongside his squadmates, serving as Hanji's diligent messenger all the while.  He is also known as a great artist and uses his skills to help people. I'll pull the quote from 16personalities to summarize:  “When the goal is right, ISFJs take all this support, reliability, and imagination, and apply it to something they believe will make a difference in people's lives...”

--He's loyal and a hard worker

Moblit deserves all the credit in the world for putting up with Hanji's danger-loving ass as it is, but as I mentioned before, he has always been an active force in the Corps.  He doesn't need foreground attention when he's already accomplishing so much in the background.  And he stayed with Hanji, protecting her until his end.  Loyal as a dog.  But probably a lot smarter.

--He's practical

As a messenger for the Corps, and as an Assistant Squad Leader, Moblit wore several hats, and he was able to be a working piece in the puzzles that eventually fit together.  The Female Titan arc?  Moblit fought with the others.  The political arc?  Moblit worked behind the scenes with the press to tear down the Central Police.  He's not one for showy, crazy stunts, but instead, practical steps forward.

--He's humble and shy

I think this is why we all took so long to recognize Moblit as an important character.  Compared to some of the “louder” personalities in the Corps, he was definitely one of the quieter ones.  

--He takes things personally

This is a double-edged sword, because without this personality trait, Hanji might have died instead of him.  Remember, he's an “F” type--a Feeling type--which means he's naturally going to get emotional attachments more easily than those “T” types.  He's a natural worrier in a world that is giving him far too much to worry about.  

--Moblit repressed his feelings

Isayama has mentioned that Moblit is the most stressed and drinks the most in the Corps.  I'm sure he didn't always quite fit in--if we assume that most Corps members are either “T” types who are already naturally emotionally repressed, or are “F” types that are also forcing down their emotions because of the circumstances, then it makes sense, right?  

--He overloads himself

Moblit is constantly a helping hand--the more you look for him, the more you end up seeing him do.  It's quite impressive, but again, like my previous statement, it obviously took its toll on him.

--He's altruistic, perhaps to a fault?

It's no secret that Moblit's a good guy.  He defends people who need defending, supports his superior officers, guides the younger soldiers, and ultimately sacrificed his own life for his Squad Leader.  But Moblit was also quite unhappy--and yet, we never heard much about his troubles, his past.  He was so busy playing support that his own problems?  Well, we may never know how much he was really suffering, simply because he hid it.  

Again, I'm going to pull a quote from 16personalities that I felt suited Moblit quite well:

“ISFJs are people of incredible loyalty, often trying to follow favored managers to new positions and locations.”

Moblit is loyalty #goals.  Like, god, genuinely, I wish I was that amazingly dedicated to even just one person.  (But I'm an INTJ and far too independent lmao)

Most people comment on his loyalty in regards to Hanji, and that's ...well, it's “duh.”  Duh.  If you've kept up with the series, or have even read what I've written thus far, you know plenty of examples of how extreme his loyalty can be.  Moblit didn't really even show aggression much in the series at all, except in response to protecting Hanji.  (For instance, the confrontation with Sannes and pajama Hanji.  One of my favorite scenes.)  

However, I think a lot of people gloss over Moblit's loyalty to the cause of the Corps.

Think back to the political arc, particularly his interactions with new Squad Levi and Levi himself.  Moblit was involved with the torture of at least two men--from what we know, Moblit is a gentle, artistic soul.  But, he threw aside his personal feelings to keep his loyalty to the Corps, to protect the regiment he had dedicated his life to.  

Want another piece of proof?

Moblit was one of the main faces that appeared in Erwin's mind as he doubted if his comrades' deaths had held any meaning.  

We had lost plenty of Corps veterans at that point for Isayama to have shown other characters' faces there.  In fact, Moblit's death had not even been shown yet.  However, I believe that Isayama wanted to show him there because not showing him would have been a disservice to his entire character.  Moblit was loyal to the Corps, so much that his Commander recognized him as important.  (Probably more than the fandom does half the time smh)

Shall we continue with a breakdown of the I-S-F-J type?

I-Introversion, or a focus on the inner self

Moblit was incredibly loyal, but the stress of his role was also obvious. He has a far more introverted attitude in most cases.

S-Sensing, or a focus on facts as they are

Moblit is a scientist and an artist--two types known for their detail-oriented nature.  However, we also often see him asking a lot of questions and focusing on the pieces of the puzzle, rather than the puzzle's outcome, especially in the political arc.

F-Feeling, or a focus on emotion

Moblit's loyalty is most definitely based on an emotional bias.  While we don't know all the details of how this came to be, we can see evidence of it in the last moments of his life.

J-Judgment, or a focus on decided paths and plans

His solid and steady nature balances the spontaneity of his Squad Leader, and his questions often lead to answers that form a focused path of how to proceed.  He follows orders with loyalty and precision.

Moblit will be missed.  He was such a realistic representation of the “average” human being at work accomplishing incredible things.  I feel that people miss that message with him a lot, so I hope that it's driven home more with season two.

Rest in peace, Mobliterator.

Also, if people wanna add to this or tell me what you think, please let me know.  Because I love doing this.

[retvenkos]

Hey! I’m resending my 🔥 ask, because it may be deleted. For a guy from Sherlock, the X-Men and MCU please! I’m 28, hetero girl who’s about to get her PhD in a month. Oblivious to flirting, very clueless about intimacy. Proud Slytherin, INTJ-T, Virgo, melancholic. I’m always kind and friendly but does have a temper and a poisonous tongue. Perfectionist. Nerd. Tomboy. I enjoy reading, films and TV series, colouring books, metal music. I hate loud, bossy people, snakes and being told what to do.

woah, early congrats on getting your phd! that’s huge!!!! also, disclaimer that it’s been a while since i’ve seen x-men, so i might be a little rough on the details for that ship.

Sherlock:

I ship you with Sherlock!

alright, so you are the only one who is able to handle sherlock, and that’s truly something. 

there is no doubt in my mind that you and sherlock had a rivals to lovers story line or at the very least a begrudging allies to lovers story line.when you first met sherlock you thought (rightfully) that he was arrogant and bossy and rude - the last person you’d ever want to spend your time with. and throughout the case that you’re working on (maybe your case? idk, but it’s a group effort), you are certain that you will be glad when you never have to see sherlock holmes again......but you spoke too soon. for some god forsaken reason, you keep running into sherlock holmes and john watson. now, john watson you don’t mind so much, but that sherlock holmes.... he infuriates you to no end. and he seems to find joy in annoying you, and that’s the worst of it.but, then again,,,,, the more you see sherlock..... the less you hate him? it doesn’t make much sense, because if anything, he only gets more cocky the longer you spend time together, and usually that irritates you more than anything else, but.... it doesn’t? and maybe it’s your lack of irritation that bothers you when sherlock is around....

meanwhile john is watching all of this go down like the ben affleck smoking meme,,, a veteran of many things, including the “why the hell do i like sherlock holmes?” phenomenon.

but anyways, you and sherlock are actually really good together.

both of you are intjs, which means that you understand each other really well, something that’s probably rare for the both of you. and yet, you also have many qualities that sherlock doesn’t have that would be good for rounding him out. you’re more patient than he is, more apt to show your feelings, and more reliable. you’d be able to balance sherlock’s instability but still meet him at this own level, and that’s good for your relationship.

the two of you definitely knew each other for a long time before you got together, both of you are wary of bringing others into your circle until you know you can trust them, and both of you are romantically clueless, so you’re a little slower to figure things out, which isn’t bad.

you both are also wicked smart, not afraid to say so, and ambitious as hell. the two of you are constantly in forward motion, trying to find the next thing to keep you occupied, and this trait would be bad in other relationships, but both of you are equally as motivated, so there’s no misunderstanding with that.

i also love how both of you can be kind and friendly, but you also have tempers and quite the tongue. you can both destroy your opponents, and no doubt that’s something you find attractive in the other.

X-Men:

I ship you with Erik Lehnsherr!

alright, so the power couple vibes i get from the two of you are astronomical. the both of you are hella determined, ambitious, introspective, and great leaders as you are informed and rational as well as loyal to your beliefs. and for your shyness, erik is incredibly charismatic, so the two of you could persuade armies to your side. iconic.

i also think the two of you would be great because while you are both determined, you are also very versatile, curious, and creative. you would bring an interesting viewpoint to any challenge that you face, and you’d be creative in getting the both of you out of trouble.

i think the two of you can be very domestic in your down time together - i imagine you both reading together, but also! i think you’d do puzzles together - they’re fun, not too difficult, and the perfect, mindless task to do while having deep conversations.

oh! and the two of you together are the most sassy, sarcastic people i’ve ever had the pleasure of meeting, but all of your comments end with a wide grin, so most of the time, you’re not hurting anyone’s feelings. you definitely walk the line sometimes, though.

i also love the idea that erik is flirting with you and you’re just like ??? yeah no, he’s just like that with everyone. it makes the other x-men want to run into a wall. eventually you get better at knowing when erik is flirting, but for a while it’s rough going, and erik is like ??? how are you this oblivious? it’s cute.

MCU:

I ship you with Steve Rogers!

alright, so i’m taking a different approach with this ship, but i think you and steve would go really well together! you’re both kind and patient, with a bit of a sad streak to you as well as a ferocity that is deep seeded into your being and is often shown in small ways like your determinedness and your loyalty.

both of you can be a little shy and a little oblivious, and i think that together, you would have a really cute dynamic. steve is the more emotional side of the relationship while you offer him a really grounded approach to things that he definitely admires and needs in his life.

you are more the brain where steve is more the heart, and together you are able to balance each other out and compliment each other’s strength. i think that with steve, you would really be heard, and that’s important for you. you like to know that you’re helping out in palpable ways, and you like to know your advice is thought about, and steve is nothing if not thoughtful.

also, the two of you have the sweetest quiet moments. you definitely read together - often to you read to steve out loud because he insists that he loves the sound of your voice. 

you also draw and color together! steve knows first hand that it’s a great stress relief to do something artistic and mindless like coloring, so i 100% believe that the two of you get those adult coloring books and work on them together. 

steve also loves your music taste? like, at first, you didn’t think he would, because he is so much that 40s gentleman, but when he actually really enjoys your music, you remember that he’s friends with people like tony stark and natasha romanoff and it all makes sense. he definitely has you branch out and listen to some more slow jams, though. especially when he’s feeling homesick or melancholic, listening to older, calmer music just takes him back.

and while the two of you are definitely a soft couple, i think you’ll be pleasantly surprised by the ferocity that steve can have. he’s a very emotional person, and when he’s angry, he can surprise everyone with how harsh and ruthless he can be. steve contains a great many multitudes, and i think you would be able to appreciate them rather than fear/dislike them.

also! you are so smart, and steve really admires that. he’s pretty smart himself, a creative thinker and used to outsmarting others rather than punching them down, so he recognizes your intelligence and appreciates that you can recognize his. 

[ill-be-istj-if-no-one-else-is]

This is the previous Ti anon, and I’d first like to say I apologize for coming off the way I did, as if I just really wanted to be typed as a Ti user; I didn’t mean to and was only experiencing frustration, as Ti was sort of a last resort, but I’m having trouble identifying whether or not I use it. I’ve no idea why, as I usually have no problem seeing it in other people (such as my confirmed INTP friend, who I recognized high Ti in immediately when he thought himself to be an INTJ),

but when it comes to myself my mind is blanking out on whether or not the definitions apply to me. Due to the misunderstanding, I’ll try to be clearer in this ask, so beginning with this, the question: Judging by the following things, do you think I use high Ti or high Fi, or any other judging function for that matter? I’ve narrowed it down to those two, but I’m not a hundred percent sure. I’m asking solely about the judging functions though because I’m nearly a hundred percent sure that I use dominant Ne and inferior Si, so nothing I say will pertain to those two functions (unless, somehow it does and you think I’m mistyped, in which case please feel free to correct me). I’m not at all sure if everything I’m about to list is really helpful, but: 1.) I think aloud, nearly lol the time. I’m constantly thinking while I’m speaking, as my head is far too messy to organize this stuff internally; the only time I ever release a semi-finished product is in writing because I often edit as I go 

2.) When I don’t understand something, I obsess over it. While I can usually still operate on the basis that that thing is true, in the background I will still try to figure it out on my own time. For example, I’ve more or less settled on being an ENTP due to no other types matching as far as I can see, but before I can truly move on, I need to have it confirmed, and I need to understand why. Otherwise I’ll always doubt it. Hence this ask. (The original question still stands though.)

3.) When I was younger, I always considered things on a logical basis, not anything else. My friend would have a problem, and rather than sympathize, I’d tell her how to fix it and expect her to stop being upset. Now, I’ve gotten a lot better at doing that and understanding that just because there’s a seemingly simple solution to me doesn’t mean they won’t still be upset, but I had to work on both considering others’ feelings when making a decision and taking into account their feelings in general communication. 

4.) When I get stressed, I become a control freak. I obsess over small things, and I don’t let anyone do anything because they won’t do it as well as I do, and if I don’t do it well, I’d still rather it be my fault than theirs. This is shown most often when I wait and procrastinate too long on something and then someone offers to help; I almost always have a mini freak out and tell them not to touch anything, and I hate them hovering over my shoulder. 

5.) When upset, esp anger,I’m very dramatic; I explode and then I get over it. Even mild inconveniences often result in me being overdramatic, though I usually recognize I’m being overdramatic and try not to take anything at face value because I know I’m being irrational. I’m pretty open with most of my emotions, excluding sadness, but thats due to mental illness things that I won’t address. My mood fluctuates a lot, and everyone knows it. I can go from apathetic to happy in two seconds flat and will at least squeal.

Also, I’ve an extremely hard time acknowledging my emotions. I’m usually aware of them, but when it comes to acknowledging them, I’ve the bad habit of shoving them to the side until I absolutely have to deal with them, meaning they’re interfering to a point of it being a problem. When I do finally recognize them, I always shoot for the root of the problem and fix it before moving on, which isn’t always as simple as it sounds unfortunately. Wow, okay, that was an extremely long ask,which I also apologize for, but I’m hoping it gave you anything to work off of? If not though, could you at least tell me what to look for when trying to type myself as a Ti user? (If you’ve already done this elsewhere, my bad; I’ve scrolled through various tags of yours [entp, high ti, ti, etc.] and not been able to find one, which would be a mistake on my part.)

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Hi anon,

This paragraph is before I’ve done any typing and just quickly skimmedbut: if you’re having trouble probably the most significant aspect here is thateven after I’ve explicitly pointed out that your question is not “what is mytype” but rather “please type me as having Ti” the question you asked was still“how do I determine if I have Ti or not” and that’s not really how I type(which is also why you probably didn’t find anything on the blog). I tend notto go by “do I or do I not have this specific function”, but rather “whatfunctions do I seem to have based on this behavior.” Which is also not to saythis is the only way to type but it is the way I do it, so if you’re looking for someone to zero in on Ti I am probably not a good resource for that.

For the actual typing:

Thinking aloud is very associated with Te actually –the act of externalizing one’s thought process. I suppose it could beconsistent with a dominant extroverted perceiving function as well, but I wouldnot associate it with Ti. Editing as you go could be anything. I edit as I go.I suspect it’s just a matter of habit and preference.

Similarly, wanting to figure something out and having asense of curiosity about it isn’t exclusively Ti; most people are curious andmany are extremely curious and never entirely move on from things they couldn’tfigure out; however, I’d associate Ti with being less able to push it to aconcern to be dealt with in the background.

Focusing on the solution and not comfort is more generallytrue of thinkers, and stressing out and becoming very obsessed with control isI’d argue least true of Ti as a higher judging function – stressed Ti userseither tend to get very logically finicky but not controlling, or have emotionaloutbursts. The controlling aspect could be inferior Si but I’d actually expectto see this far more on the Te-Fi axis; either as high Te going into overdrive immediatelyand you leaning on your strengths, or as lower Te in a stress reaction.

Your emotional description is also making me think of highTe more so than anything high Ti to the point that I think it might be worthcontacting your INTP friend and rethinking their type. Many thinkers tend toignore their emotions to an extent but high Ti users tend to be somewhatunaware of them, whereas Te users are more likely to be aware but refuse toprocess, and especially to shove them aside (though to be fair that can just begood old-fashioned coping mechanisms and denial; I completely understand notwanting ot share mental illness information but as you mentioned that may be havingeffects on your emotional state that are not well explained by MBTI.

So: I would look at the Te doms.If you are absolutely positive you have dominant Ne, I would next considerother factors outside of MBTI; while you’re not necessarily a typical ENFP from this ask you do have some separation of expression vs. felt emotions and I wouldn’t rule out a feeling type entirely, especially since you mentioned mental illness may have an influence on some of your behaviors (not because feelers are mentally ill but because there are known factors that might be influencing your behaviors such that you don’t seem like a typical feeler but could still be one).

[funkymbtifiction]

Hi, Charity! I have been having an identity crisis lately. (Yet another of many in the past year of a lot of self discovery and doubt). I spent quite a while thinking I was either enfp or infp, after retyping myself several times from intp to intj to infj and then xnfp. But recently I became convinced that I am an infj and was right in my typing when I first learnt about the underlying cognitive functions (intx was pretty much just from online tests). I know this sounds very vague so far and I’m not giving any details of why or how.

Hey, Mar.

Wish your e-mail address had worked, so we could have this talk in private. :)

Since you were vague in your descriptions of Ne/Ni, I wasn't able to tell which one appears to be dominant, but here’s a few thoughts reaped from the post:

I struggle with seeing myself clearly, but I don’t know if it’s because of Fe or because I’ve had a tough family situation growing up where I was basically not allowed to have an identity separate from my caretakers. I am easily swayed by other people’s opinions and start to doubt my convictions but again, don’t know if it’s Fe or poor self-confidence (or both?).

It could be Fe if you allow other people’s emotions to cloud yours, or it could be the Ne-dom problem of being unable to see yourself clearly. Every single Ne-dom I've ever known / talked to, myself included, had a hell of a time finding their own type and still cannot see themselves very clearly, because Ne is so busy gaining 'outside perspectives' 24/7 and has such poor self-awareness (inferior Si) that it tends to believe whatever idea anyone throws at it about themselves, even if it doesn't match who they are. The idea just sticks to them and them being a Ne/Si, they cannot properly filter it out (Si: Hey, I’m not like that!).

I could especially relate, among other things, to that sense of impending doom and being stuck in the same situation I am currently in and no hope for a better future. Not being able to imagine a better future for myself and seeing only all the ways in which I am stuck and will be stuck stresses me out quite a lot, actually. Sometimes I obsess over it.

All intuitives feel that staying stagnant is a literal hell, so this could be Ni OR Ne. But Ne/Si tends to have a more generic 'I'm not sure what I want, but this ain't it and I hope this isn’t all I ever have from my life' approach and NiSe tends to think, 'it's time I stop fixating on this single vision and DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT REAL” followed by fear it may fail and then they’ll have nothing, since no other dream / career / ambition has outlasted this one.

To the point that sometimes I can only find solace in fantasizing about meeting that one person who will save me from my troubles, as unrealistic, unhealthily codependent and disempowering as it sounds.

Free amateur psych advice: other people cannot save you, because other people are just as imperfect as you are. This is common in a fearful N user, who tends to idealize and fantasize about a hero coming to rescue them, because they are so uncomfortable interacting with the sensory world on their own. The answer is that you have to save yourself, since no one else will. :)

An aspect of why I believed myself to be an enfp is that I could relate a lot to your more personal posts (especially about writing) or whenever you’d offer personal examples to illustrate type. Or in doubting my introversion because sometimes I would talk to a person and get so energized by that human connection.

What kind of energy? Emotional (Fe) energy? Or I MET SOMEONE FULL OF GREAT IDEAS AND NOW I'M WIRED (Ne) energy?

Right now I’m in the middle of rewriting a novel. It changes with each draft. People change. Motives change. Ideas change. Hell, I decided to change the murderer because another possibility will clean up the plot better so now I’m having to rewrite entire sections and leave other characters out / fill the holes they leave behind. I’m fine with it. It’s fun and somewhat easy. It energizes me. That’s high Ne. “This was fine last week but now it bores me and I have a better way to approach it, so it’s all gonna change and continue changing until I find something that works.” I sometimes joke that me being me, as a Ne, I’m not ‘done’ with something until I can read it twenty-six times in the editing process without wanting to change something at its fundamental level. I know I found the RIGHT idea, after using and discarding a bunch of alternate possibilities.

(My INFJ friend basically writes her novels in head, figures them all out in advance, then sits down and writes it out and changes very little in revision. Ni.)

I struggle to see if I do actually perceive the emotions of those around me and can easily step into someone else’s perspective and I’m observant of the unspoken agreements in a social situation, or if I’m delusional and I just like to think I’m an empath because it makes me feel better about myself.

Perceiving them (Ne) or feeling them (Fe)? When you are in a group, are you watching people so you can SPECULATE on their emotions (Fi) or are you immersed IN their emotions and sometimes lose yourself in the process (Fe)? Are you GUESSING at their feelings (Fi) based on a sense of inner self (”Are they bored? She looks bored. Can’t other people see she’s bored? I would not want to be bored, so we need to keep her from being bored. How are other people not see this?” Fi thinking can actually mean, “Because this would bore ME, I’m projecting being bored onto her when she’s not actually bored.”)

Side note: intuitives often over-estimate their own skills because their intuition / imagination is fantasizing an ideal self, instead of using their real self. And coming crashing down to earth and realizing they were wrong / are not very good at that / really are not a God is somewhat crushing to their ego.

One thing that really made me lean towards infj as a possibility is realizing that, at least for me, writing is a way of expressing and externalizing my feelings.

Why is this specifically shifting you toward INFJ? INFJs do not have a corner on writing. This is equally if not more common in the INFPs. Every Fi-dom poet of the last five hundred years can testify to externalizing their feels in writing.

MY emotions get so tied up inside myself that until I get them out on paper (Te) I cannot organize them or even figure out how to say how I feel -- and that's crucial, because Fi/Te types may resort to metaphors, ducking conversations, or intense internal monologues that may never be voiced (because it takes time to organize their thoughts before they speak on an emotional level) while Fe/Ti types can usually simply sum up their feelings vocally when asked, since that's what Fe/Ti does.

So, are you externalizing to get others' feedback on your feelings and affirmation (FeTi) or are you writing because you know no other clear way to restructure and share your abstract (hard to describe) feelings (FiTe)?

Before, I believed I had Fi because I have strong beliefs about individuality and personal integrity and I passionately hate the kind of group-think that leads to lack of personal integrity in favor of what the majority wants. But at the same time I strongly believe in equality. In fact, I believe what makes us equals is (as corny as it sounds) precisely that we’re all unique and irreplaceable and have a unique purpose for our life, that nobody else could fulfill quite like us.

You should ask yourself: do I pass immediate moral judgment upon hearing new information like a Fi-dom or do I internalize / interact with the ideas before I judge their ethics like a NeFi or do I try and fit the new information into my internal worldview and see how to use it to motivate people in a NiFe way?

Another reason for me thinking Fi is that somewhere along the line I had convinced myself that I hated people and I took on the identity of a misanthrope.

Um. Why would this connect to Fi in your mind?

I have been struggling big time with having too high expectations of myself and with my overall perfectionism, which more often paralyzes me instead of making me work harder. I am studying again after a few years, and the deadlines are just killing me. They feel like life or death. I obviously don’t know how to work with a schedule, I did 90% of the workload of two weeks in the first two days and then felt burnt out and spent the next week and a half distracting myself by researching random non academic stuff just for personal amusement, like mbti and the enneagram, and how to make pumpkin pie, and the relationship between veganism and the tv series Hannibal. Procrastination is definitely something I’m good at. It’s two days before the deadline and I’m struggling with that 10% of work that I haven’t done yet, and after spending the whole day stressing out about it and not being able to write a single sentence of my essay on cave art from the paleolithic, I am writing this instead. At least, just by writing this, I’ve already gained some clarity on what’s going on inside my head, which is always helpful.

I’m 90 pages into a book on perfectionism from a psychological perspective at the moment, but Jordan Peterson has wise words for this sort of behavior: finished is better than perfect.

I too am a perfectionist, but for me it's more spewing ideas out on the page (Ne) and then anxiously trying to formulate them into some kind of structure that has an overall point (Te) and then agonizing over the details in case I got something wrong that will cause people to throw out my good ideas in favor of the misinformation (low Si) due to Ne placing unrealistic standards on this situation due to being combined with perfectionism, which is fear based (if this isn’t flawless, people will judge it harshly and not listen to what it says).

I’m sorry I could not give your type based on what you wrote, but hopefully I explained enough about my thinking process and gave you good enough questions that you can find your type by being honest about your mental processing leading to behaviors.

- ENFP Mod