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[deliaistyping]

tumblr dot com is the place where each Enneagram type comes to be the most insufferable version of ourselves

[subconsciousmysteries]

4 and 6: Both Envy types

This is a symbol from Sufi enneagram, which far predates Naranjo enneagram. It shows that 6 is the Envy type, NOT 4. However, later enneagram removed Envy from the 6 personality and attributed all Envy in the human psyche to 4. This should explain why so many 6s mistype as 4s.

In this post I will explain how 4s and 6s differently experience Envy. 4s experience Envy just as all types do, but a whole psychological complex based around Envy is 6, not 4.

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4s are envious of people from a position of competing for attention. If they feel they have worked extremely hard to project a meaningful image of themselves and their story, and then you strut in and you appear to be more worthy of attention from their desired people than them... the 4 can become very insecure and envious of you. They will usually react by trying to peacock flamboyantly, trying to prove they are better, more worthy of attention than you, in their personal way (4 -> 2 response, displaying immense Pride in their image or ideal that they want to be recognized for, displaying how much more special, more worthy of attention they and their vision / story are).

6s are envious of people because they suppress so many of their desired behaviors and their very Faith in themselves, due to fear. They are always comparing themselves to others due to Doubting their own intuitions about what to embody. Doubt makes 6s lack Faith in their own abilities and intuitions and feel hopelessly incompetent. When they see people who don't suppress themselves as much, people who appear to have Faith in themselves and behave with the boldness the 6 secretly wants to embody, and most of all, people who are competent in the way the 6 wants to be competent, they can feel very envious and frustrated. Sometimes this Envy can manifest as hero-worship and trying to copy you as if you are an ideal set for them on TV, secretly hoping they will eventually surpass you. Sometimes Envy manifests as the 6 directly competing with you (both are 6 -> 3 responses).

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Since 4 and 6 both disintegrate into an Image type that is competitive for attention, they get confused a lot. The way to distinguish between 4 and 6, is to distinguish between 2 and 3.

6 is disintegrating into a Competency, Attachment image type (3). 4 is disintegrating into an Optimist, Rejection image type (2).

[headlesstypo]

Type Examples

I have the unfortunate opportunity to be on personality database.  Here is a list of characters I have typed that I believe are good case studies for their enneagram core.  If anyone is ever interested in a more detailed write up of any of the characters, feel free to shoot me an ask and I can describe my thought process in more depth.  Some sections are stronger than others.  These sections will update regularly:

Enneagram 1

Enneagram 2

Enneagram 3

Enneagram 4

Enneagram 5

Enneagram 6

Enneagram 7

Enneagram 8

Enneagram 9

[lemonthepotato]

HELP WITH ENNEAGRAM

I was originally gonna post this on r/enneagram but changed my mind. Please help if you can. <3

Expressing yourself through song lyrics sure is cringy and edgy. Glad I didn’t do that this post. Also, yes, this post will be long asf too. Sorry, but I’m bad at compressing things. If you don’t want to read it, don’t. Go on. Do something else. I don’t blame you lol. I understand if you don’t want to read allathat. Idk I’ll prolly delete this. Maybe.

Some of this borders on yapping but I cut a lot of irrelevant shit.

Haha… 69. I’m just saying, a part of me really wants my tritype to be 69X. It would be funny. Sorry, I’ll grow up. One day. Also, here’s a cringy little slideshow. Hope you like it.

SO. The consensus last time was that I was either a 6 or a 9, so while I’m skeptical, I went to research the differences. Starting with RHETI.

Before you say “look at core motives” isn’t the whole point of core motives that they’re subconscious? I don’t think it would help.

(Yes, I’m serious about using RHETI. Sorry, it’s convenient.)

“These types are actually frequently mistyped. Sixes and Nines are both concerned with security and with maintaining some kind of status quo situation.” Uh, no, I hate the status quo. And I’m not sure what security even means. I mean, yeah, negative change makes me upset, but positive change is good. And my life is so boring that I assure you, the status quo is not what I am interested in maintaining. I need a change. I’m constantly striving towards a better, more action-filled life.

“They are both family-oriented, and both tend to take modest views of themselves.” Nope. I’m actually pretty anti-natalist, and have no interest in ‘starting a family.’ My mortality is my burden to bear, not any hypothetical child’s. I don’t care for my family either, they’re all corrupt. And ‘modest’… maybe. I put on, and have for many years, a false bravado, but on the inside, I think I am kinda modest? I’ve always been told my writing is amazing, but truthfully, I don’t think it’s very good compared to other authors. I think I have a bad-okay singing voice, better than some other people. My art is bad. I think I know my skills. People praised my baking, but I thought it was just meh. I always think people are lying when they compliment me, which isn’t often.

“In short, Nines like to remain easy-going and unflappable. Nines work steadily at their tasks, but show little sign of being upset by the day's ups and downs. Sixes, on the other hand, cannot easily disguise their feelings. They get more easily worked-up and rattled by mishaps.” Well I definitely lean six there. I mean, I can disguise my feelings easily, except my anger. It’s the only emotion I can’t hide, and I’m easy to piss off.

“While Nines can remain silent within their own inner peace, Sixes need to vent with others periodically to discharge their fears and doubts.” Leaning six there, but if I feel rejected then I don’t vent. The closest recently was when I complained in a gc about low-content authors saturating the market on KDP. I tend to take a very strong stance when stating an opinion, and I may or may not have said “I want them to shove their year planners up” andddd you can guess the rest. From an objective standpoint, I know there’s not much wrong with making low content books… my problem should more be focused on bots stealing from authors, but I just, I guess exaggerate my anger?

“Sixes are more obviously nervous and defensive when they believe there are problems. Nines remain strangely bland in the face of problems, although beneath the pleasant surface of average Nines, there is stubborn resistance and an unwillingness to be upset or troubled by conflicts or problems.” Lean six there. If someone pisses me off, I’m not gonna reject my emotions.

“tend to be suspicious of unknown people and situations–they need to test people before they let them get close. Nines may be protected by the disengagement of their attention, but they tend to be trusting of others–almost to a fault.” Nope, always been more six there.

“Of course, under stress, when moving in their Direction of Disintegration, Nines will begin to act out some of the behaviors of average Sixes, and for this reason, some Nines will mistype themselves as Sixes. But such periods of overt anxiety generally do not last long. As soon as possible, Nines revert to their more easy going approach to things.” Well… I don’t know. I mean, I’ve always been very reactive and angry.

Subtypes:

Sx6: Okay so, denying fear is a 50/50. If someone intimates me, I usually will fight back, but sometimes if they break me too much, I’ll break down. I definitely feel “you’re only as strong as you think you are.” But I don’t want to give off the idea that I’m strong physically, only emotionally. I’ve always been seen as weak, and to a degree, I want to give off that weak, broken, lonely persona so I can be saved, or at the very least, used by someone drawn to that kind of person. Because… I am kinda weak. And I don’t mind being used, because from experience, even though being used has always sucked, I’ve never felt lonely by them. I can relate to being stubborn. I view everything as a challenge.

“These characters walk around with the idea that anyone can become dangerous, so they do everything they can to not feel cheated, manipulated, taken advantage of, or attacked.” Yeah, maybe more so nowadays. When I’m out of the house, I’m constantly wary of people.

“Despite being aggressive as part of their effort to intimidate through strength, Sx Sixes tend not to acknowledge their aggressive side and may not be aware of it-or at least of the intensity of it.” Nah, I’m pretty aggressive and aware of it. I don’t think it was always that way.

“They also tend to separate their emotions: aggression is disconnected from fear, and sex is disconnected from feelings of love and intimacy.” Eh? Maybe? Not really tbh.

“They may have the illusion that they are spontaneous, but they tend not to be.” …Is this true for me? Idk, maybe.

“Sx Sixes tend to be very contrarian.”

Very true for me honestly. Sometimes I’ll argue even when I agree with people.

Sp6:

“They also have difficulty in looking at things as black and white, as they can see multiple shades of gray in between everything.” Depends.

“Seeing themselves as constantly at fault, they also feel persecuted: they project their internal persecution externally. It is a form of paranoid thinking which incurs the following: other people are always ready to catch your faults, attack you, and criticize you, and if they do not, it is only because it is convenient for them to hide their intentions at the moment to ensure they punch down the line.” Oh 100%.

“Self-Preservation Sixes fear anger, aggression, provocation, and confrontation. Being afraid of other people's aggression means they can't let their own aggression out.” I mean yes, but no. I don’t immediately resort to anger if I know the person is a loose cannon, but at some point, I have to protect myself.

“As the most phobic of the three Sixes, the avoidant Self-Preservation subtype equates love with protection, and in looking for love they search for a source of security to compensate for an inner sense of insecurity. This Six wants to find a strong person to lean on, and they many be excessively friendly and giving as a way of preventing an attack from outside. In order to feel the strength they are lacking, the Self-Preservation Six attracts the affections or protection of somebody strong-the more forceful presence of another helps them to feel safer.” I mean yeah. I guess I’ve flipped between sp6 and sx6 behaviours my whole life. I feel like the only way to be liked is to either be completely aggressive or completely submissive. Those are the only versions of me that “exist.” I just can’t tell which is real.

So6: “Consciously or unconsciously, Social Sixes fear the disapproval of authorities and believe the way to be safe is to do the right thing as determined by an authority. And knowing what the right thing is means having clear rules that tell you how you should think and act.” Kinda. I’m just saying, it wouldn’t be hard to trick me into joining a cult, that’s all really.

“Social Sixes have an intolerance of ambiguity. They fear ambivalence and have little tolerance of uncertainty, because to them, uncertainty equals anxiety. As a result, they have a love of precision and see things more in terms of black and white than gray.” Kinda.

I don’t fear making mistakes.

Sx9: “Sx Nines unconsciously express a need to be through another- to gain a sense of "being" they don't find inside themselves through fusion with somebody else.” Yeah, but it’s not unconscious… anymore.

“These Nines feel a sense of loneliness or abandonment that seems like it can only be filled by another person, whether or not they realize it consciously.” True.

“The problem inherent in this stance, of course, is that true union- a real relationship between two people - requires that both people stand on their own feet before coming to meet each other.” Oh see, that kinda gave me a chill… no. I don’t want to be alone, ever. I don’t think I can be alone. I don’t like it.

“Sx Nines tend to be very kind, gentle, tender and sweet. They are the least assertive of the Nines.” 👎 nuh uh. I mean again, if it was in a context where I fully trusted someone then yeah but nuh uh.

“Sx Nines may also share central concerns with Type Twos in that they can lack a solid sense of self and then look to their important relationships as a way to find self-definition or a sense of identity. Twos differ from these Nines, however, in that they focus more attention on constructing an image. Twos also usually enjoy being the center of attention, while this is much less comfortable for Sx Nines.” I mean yeah, I love attention and always have, but no one in the last post suggested 2, so it’s unlikely I’m a 2. Maybe sp2, but still, I don’t think so. Maybe? Maybe not. Maybe…

Sp9: Basically sx9 but if their partner was a potato chip. Also, I might be a black and white thinker considering my dad just said he was making breakfast or lunch and my first thought was “well, it’s one or the other.” Sorry, not related.

Reading this is basically just how I acted from 2018-2021. Not a good time in my life. I don’t like being alone. I haven’t “resigned” myself to not finding love, my whole logic in those four years was “well, when I’m 18, I’m gonna work hard for the rest of my life, so I should enjoy these years before I can’t do it anymore.” which consisted of barely being able to leave the bed. So fun.

I mean no, I don’t use physical activity to create a self. Maybe through my work, but I don’t like slacking off, so maybe not.

Oh yeah, someone suggested I might be a 1 in the last post. The only 1 subtype I even closely relate to is the old version of sx1. Core type? Sure, to a degree. But idk. Most people said either 6 or 9 so I’m not sure. And 9w8 > 9w1 at that degree.

I don’t relate much to the core of 2. It’s more that I want to be looked after than looking after others. I feel the only way to serve others is to improve my appearance and serve them through giving myself to them. As for 3, I really related to a degree, but no one else agreed, and honestly, maybe you’re right. Not a 4, I’m nowhere near having enough of an identity to be a 4. 5 just makes no sense to me. 7 makes a lot of sense to me but I don’t relate to ignoring negative emotions. I’m not confident enough to be an 8. I guess that leaves me with 6 and 9, along with maybe 2 as an option. Maybe 3.

I think 9 is unlikely, honestly, so let’s narrow that to 6, 2 and 3. Definitely had a lot of sp2 behaviours as a kid. Lmao, I was gonna say “but honestly, I didn’t feel entitled cuz I did anything, just for existing” and that’s literally the next paragraph written about sp2. I’m not gonna fall into the trap of relating to subtype over core type, because I don’t really relate to the core type of 2. Maybe when I was younger. I remember when my parents argued, I would try and mediate things, because I didn’t like it, but I just got yelled at. I would also sometimes do things for others to get validation, but I don’t remember if it was a core trait.

Wanna hear a fun fact? Growing up, my mom fell for an MLM, so me and her went door to door shilling makeup products… yep, she used a little young innocent me who was acting very friendly to the people there, for some reason, to shill products. I don’t know why I was so friendly to those random people. To prove myself?

See I relate to 3, but no one agreed with that in the last post, so maybe not. I do relate to cultivating a persona and hiding negative traits. It’s why these posts are so hard to make. But, I’m not exactly GOOD at getting attention. I mean, growing up, I wasn’t very well liked even if I wanted to be popular. I’ve always wanted to be famous.

Six is complicated because I can relate to the core to a degree, but none of the subtypes, or 50/50 on each subtype. Nine is just… I don’t see much 9 in me.

Anyway, uhh, what else should I say? This post has dragged on long enough. If you want to read my other type me post, it’s like, the post before the last post on this account I think. It’s also very long.

Oh yeah, I had another brief friend that destroyed my trust by telling me to end my life by insulting me using insults based on the things I vented to him about. Hence once of the many reasons I have trust issues. That guy was very fucked up though. Tried stabbing his dad n shit. Pressured me into doing weird shit. Fucked shit man. Anyway. That’s all.

Ok, that’s all.

…I thought this would be shorter. Anyway, I guess if you have any questions/need elaboration, comment. Again I’m very sorry this post is long, I suck at compressing shit.

If the consensus is 9 again, then I’ll just accept that I was in ~DeNile.~ 😅 I just don’t think I’m calm enough.

Idk I’ll probably delete this post. It’s just- I’ve tried figuring it out on my own and it’s very difficult.

Edit: This post is old (5 months old) and I doubt I’m a 9. I was torn between 3 and 6 when I wrote this, then I got torn between 4 and 6. 4 and 6 have been the most consistent parts of my typing, so I settled on 4. Sometimes I wonder if I’m a 5 due to this but I have a very strange relationship with type 5? It was the type I questioned the least except for 8, and like, I never had any valid reason to deny it other than not ‘feeling’ like a five and the only type I considered was sx5 very briefly. I could go more in depth but 9 is very unlikely now. Also I don’t use wings anymore, at least the way people use em.)

[mordenandmerry]

I got bored so here’s all tma character’s enneagram numbers :)

Also yes all of them are the unhealthy versions of their types because this is the Magnus Archives

- Jon is a SCREAMING 5 because look at him. Fucking look at him. Probably 5w6 though.

- Martin is a 2w3. That man is very loyal and will put other people’s needs over his own but can also be very manipulative and aggressive when stressed.

- Jonah!Elias seems like an unhealthy 3w2 which is probably why I hate him :)

- Tim is definitely an 8w7 that covers his 8 with his 7 wing until s2

- Sasha wasn’t there for long but I’d say she’s a 1. I couldn’t say what her wing is, but 9 and 2 would fit.

- Melanie is an 8. She doesn’t even really need wings because DAMN is she an 8.

- Basira is a 6w5. She’s incredibly loyal, but very analytical.

- Daisy is an 8w9. She’s a very reserved person at times and sees both sides, but will gladly challenge people when necessary and go off at people (and also murder people but we don’t talk about that)

- Georgie is a 6w5. She somehow manages to keep a group of people alive through the apocalypse. She’s also a nerd for research.

Here’s some rapid fire ones:

Gertrude is 1w2, Peter Lukas is a 9w1, Gerry’s a 4, Simon’s a 7, Nikola Orsinov is a 3w4

I love the enneagram please debate with me over this or if you don’t know about the enneagram please research it.

[blueopinions49]

Horror Typology (Survivors)

Laurie Strode ISFJ SiTi 6w5 sp/so Pisces (Feb,26)

Sidney Prescott ISFP FiSe 9w8 sp/sx Pisces (March,16)

Gale Weathers ENTJ TeSe 3w4 so/sp Aries (April 4th)

Nancy Thompson INTJ NiTe 1w2 sp/so Cancer (July,13)

Ellen Ripley ENTJ TeNi 8w9 sp/sx Capricorn (Jan ,7)

Clarice Sterling INTJ NiTe 1w9 sp/so Capricorn (Dec,23)

Ash Williams ESTP SeFe 7w8 sx/sp Aries (April 8th)

Oj Haywood ISTP TiNi 5w6 sp/sx Scorpio

Maxine Minx ESFP SeFi 3w4 so/sx Libra

Chris Redfield ESTJ TeSi 6w7 so/sx Capricorn

Ana Flores ENTJ TeSe 8w7 sp/sx Aries

Connie Taylor ESTJ TeSi 6w5 so/sx Virgo

Alice Liddle INTP TiSi 5w4 sp/sx Aquarius

Jennifer INFP FiSi 6w5 so/sp Pisces

Fionna Belli ISFJ SiTi 9w1 sp/so Cancer

Henry Townshed INTP TiSi 5w4 sp/sx Aquarius

Cheryl Mason ISFP FiSe 9w8 sp/sx Saggitarius (Winter of 1980)

Ellie Williams ENFP NeFi 7w8 sx/sp Taurus or Gemini (Spring-Summer)

Tree Gelbman ESTP SeTi 8w7 sp/sx Virgo (Sept,13)

Helen Shivers ESFJ FeSi 3w2 so/sp Libra (Oct,13)

[m-v-tique]

Personality Typing AEWVS!

[*In honor of the game for how undeserving it was for it to be deleted.

Anyways I hate the commonality of all the characters just being blatantly 1w9 153’s so it may or may not be their actual type as long as it may be specified.*]

Viktor Strobovski

MBTI: ENTJ or INTJ

Enneagram + Tritype: 1w9 or 8w9 || 153, 853 or 835

Instinctual Variant: SX/SO, SP/SX, SX/SP, or SO/SP

Temperament: Choleric-Phlegmatic, Phlegmatic-Choleric, or Choleric (Dom)

Big 5 (*SLOAN): Social, Calm, Organized, Egotistical, Non-Openminded/Inquisitive

[SCOE*]

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Laura (Head Teacher)

MBTI: ISTJ

Enneagram + Tritype: 1w9 || 153 or 163

Instinctual Variant: SP/SO or SP/SX

Temperament: Phlegmatic (Dom) or Phlegmatic-Choleric

Big 5: Reserved, Calm, Organized, Egotistical, Non-Openminded [RCOEN]

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Marzia V (Language Teacher)

MBTI: ESTJ

Enneagram + Tritype: 1w9 or 5w6 || 153, 163 or 513

Instinctual variant: SP/SO or SO/SP

Temperament: Choleric-Phlegmatic or Choleric (Dom)

Big 5: Social, Limbic, Organized, Egotistical, Non-Openminded [SLOEN]

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Alice Freudenmacher

MBTI: ESFJ

Enneagram + Tritype: 1w2 or 1w9 || 163, 135, 136 or 153

Instinctual variant: SO/SX or SO/SP

Temperament: Phlegmatic-Sanguine, Phlegmatic-Melancholic or Phlegmatic (Dom)

Big 5: Social, Calm, Organized, Accommodating, Non-Openminded/Inquisitive [SCOA*]

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Erie

MBTI: ISFP

Enneagram + Tritype: 5w4, 4w5 or 9w8 || (Mixed combo of: 1,4,5,8), 945 or 954

Instinctual Variant: SP/SX, SX/SP, SP/SO or SX/SO

Temperament: Melancholic-Choleric, Melancholic (Dominant)

Big 5: Reserved, Limbic, Unorganized, Egotistical, Non-Openminded [RLUEN]

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Mr. Mix

MBTI: ISTJ

Enneagram + Tritype: 8w9, 5w6 or 1w9 || 853, 583, or 153

Instinctual variant: SP/SX or SP/SO

Temperament: Choleric-Phlegmatic, Phlegmatic-Choleric

Big 5: Reserved, Calm, Organized, Egotistical, Non-Openminded [RCOEN]

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Mr. Cleany Clean

MBTI: ESFP

Enneagram + Tritype: 9w1, 9w1, 2w3 or 3w2 || 953, 963, 259, 269, 359 or 369

Instinctual variant: SO/SX or SO/SP

Temperament: Phlegmatic-Sanguine, Sanguine-Phlegmatic or Sanguine (Dominant)

Big 5: Social, Calm, Unorganized, Accomodating, Inquisitive [SCUAI]

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Phonty

MBTI: ENTP

Enneagram + Tritype: 7w8 or 5w4 || 783, 784 or 548

Instinctual variant: SP/SX or SO/SX

Temperament: Choleric-Sanguine

Big 5: Social, Limbic, Unorganized, Egotistical, Inquisitive [SLUEI]

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Konstantine II

MBTI: INTJ or ISTJ

Enneagram + Tritype: 5w6 || 538 or 583

Temperament: Phlegmatic (Dominan)

Instinctual variant: SP/SO or SP/SX

Big 5: Reserved, Calm, Organized, Egotistical, Inquisitive [RCOEI]

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Albert

MBTI: INFJ

Enneagram + Tritype: 5w4 or 1w2 || 541 or 145

Temperament: Phlegmatic-Melancholic

Instinctual variant: SO/SP

Big 5: Reserved, Calm, Organized, Accommodating, Inquisitive [RCOAI]

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Angellica “Angell” (Player)

MBTI: INFP or ISFP

Enneagram + Tritype: 6w5 or 9w1 || 641 or 945

Temperament: Melancholic-Phlegmatic or Melancholic (Dominant)

Instinctual variant: SP/SO or SO/SP

Big 5: Reserved, Limbic/Calm, Unorganized, Accommodatin, Inquisitive [R*UAI]

[rknchan]

pretty cures as enneatypes!

(typings are not taken from personality database, these are my opinions on precure's enneatypes and they might differ from yours)

e1 - madoka kaguya (sp 1w9) & minami kaido (so 1w2) e2 - megumi aino (so 2w1) & erika kurumi (sp 2w3) e3 - kirara amanogawa (so?3w2) & miki aono (so 3w2) e4 - homare kagayaki (sp 4w5) e5 - yuri tsukikage (sx 5w4) & ruru amour (sp 5w6) e6 - setsuna higashi (so 6w5) & hime shirayuki (sp 6w7) e7 - hikaru hoshina (sx 7w6) & love momozono (so 7w8) e8 - nagisa misumi (so 8w7) e9 - yuko omori (so 9w1) & hikari kujou (sx 9w1)

[chdmeeksmartins]

the gang’s kids, in the au no one asked for, on film/polaroids throughout the years…

Elizabeth “Betsy” Victoria Kelso. Born January 15, 1979. ENFP. Enneagram 3w2. FC: Minka Kelly.

Louise Madeline Kelso. Born November 8th, 1984. ESFP. Enneagram 7w8. FC: Zoey Deutch.

Allison Katherine Forman. Born December 13th, 1986. INFJ. Enneagram 1w2. FC: Olivia Cooke.

Grace Nicole Forman. Born June 4th, 1989. ENFP. Enneagram 2w3. FC: Sarah Hyland.

John “Jay” Cameron Kelso. Born August 3rd, 1989. ISFP. Enneagram 9w8. FC: Ross Lynch.

Emma Jane Pinciotti. Born April 10th, 1990. ESFJ. Enneagram 4w3. FC: Sophie Turner.

Peyton Anna Hyde. Born May 13th, 1994. ESTP. Enneagram 8w9. FC: Madison Bailey.

Daniel Lucas Forman. Born September 10th, 1995. ISTP. Enneagram 5w6. FC: Jack Champion.

William “Will” James Hyde. Born January 26th, 1997. INTP. Enneagram 6w5. FC: Adrian Lyles.

[yourbelgianthings]

enneatyping taz pcs for the seasons i’ve finished!

(plus steeplechase, i’m not fully done but far enough in i feel like i know the characters well enough for this)

balance

taako taaco: 4w3

magnus burnsides: 1w2

merle highchurch: 9w1

amnesty

duck newton: 2w1

aubrey little: 9w8

ned chicane: 3w2

arlo thacker: 5w4

ethersea

amber gris: 6w5

devo la main: 8w7

zoox anthellae: 7w6

steeplechase

beef punchley: 2w3

montrose pretty: 3w4

emerich dreadway: 5w6

[subconsciousmysteries]

Similarities between Reactive types

4 and 6

Envy, Inadequacy. "The grass is always greener on the other side. That other person is always more competent and capable than me. That other person deserves attention more than me, fuck fuck fuck." 6s are the original Envy type, NOT 4. Read one of my many posts about this.

Conscious fear of abandonment.

Fear of not being good enough, fear of not being chosen as the first option (ties into envy and inadequacy). Both 4 and 6 disintegrate into Image types who are competitive for attention, over-comparing themselves to others, and concerned with being good enough to impress others (4 -> 2 and 6 -> 3).

Needing to be understood, feeling persecuted because everyone misunderstands their inner world of thoughts and feelings, and feeling fragile and anxious and betrayed when they share themselves but are not understood by others. This is true for 8s as well, but the interpersonal neediness is not as conscious with 8s. 4s and 6s are more conscious of their interpersonal neediness than 8s, because they both disintegrate into image types whilst 8 is disintegrating into a head type.

Seeking to understand other people's secret identities and motivations, and reveal these secret identities and motivations to them, as a way of deepening your connection.

Mutual neighbors of 5: will both have 5-ish traits. Namely: sense of observing rather than being truly involved, ability to be socially calculated, sense of helplessness and social isolation, social introversion, and social anxiety are common. This is more relevant for 4w5s and 6w5s than 4w3s and 6w7s.

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4 and 8

Hyper-Individualism, expressed in dramatic emotional displays (the mutual 2 line has lots to do with this).

Feeling like you need to make your unique mark -- 8s do it to express anger / control and take over rooms when they feel the drive. It is instinct-based. 4s do it to get their image recognized and validated, to get an audience for a strong idealistic vision they have invested in producing and sharing. This all ties in to the mutual 2 line.

Seeking Catharsis.

Trying to "help" people who they see as repressed to express themselves more. Sometimes it's really help. Sometimes not.

Sense of being "thrown out of heaven" and rejected by God. 8s feel they are in a war with God, 4s feel that they are trying to impress God through their image and earn their way back into heaven. Read Enneagram of Holy Ideas for this one. It's eerily similar.

Mutual line to 2: will both have 2-ish traits. Namely: Emotions > Logic, wanting an audience to sit on the throne before and entertain, dramatic over-expressiveness of the emotions with an unconscious motive to seduce. This is present regardless of the 4 or 8's wings.

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6 and 8

Truth-seeking, particularly regarding political events and views of external reality. Both types are likely to have unconventional political views, be activists, be part of niche ideological tribes, loudly and vocally seek to destroy the power / authority and make their anti-authority opinions heard.

"Wake up sheeple!"

Savior / hero complex. Both aspire to be heroes of the weak. Both will probably love guns or military in some way.

Sense of their own Incompetency. These types both disintegrate into Competency types (6 -> 3 and 8 -> 5) as they are overdosing on something the core type lacks -- a sense of valuing and nurturing its own Competency.

Seeking Competent people to enter into their lives so that they can outsource their Competency concerns to these people; again, this comes from 6 and 8 devaluing their own Competency.

Overt anger and reactivity towards people who don't act the way they want them to be acting.

Mutual neighbors of 7: will both have 7-ish traits. Namely: They are chaotic and expansive thinkers, fixated on freedom and the right to adventure, hard to follow in their expressions of thought, both lean towards being socially extroverted, the stuff about having very unconventional views about reality can be chalked up to the 7 wing. This is more relevant for 6w7s and 8w7s than 6w5s and 8w9s.

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All Reactives

Contrarianism, going against the norm to challenge the norm. If authority or "the mainstream" tells me to do it, I might just find a reason to do the opposite!

"Rebel without a cause."

...seeking to become rebels with a cause, so getting involved with a bunch of retarded causes, and occasionally getting involved with revolutionary causes that are good and not retarded.

Activism

Adaptability to circumstance, in their triad of focus (mental, interpersonal, or physical). That's part of what "reactive" means.

Argumentativeness

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I totally get enneagram 5w4 vibes from Brooke---which may be me projecting, but that's the fun of a character we know a little but not too much about :) Kelso is a 7 to me (7w6 more than 7w8 maybe?), Jackie is a 3w2, Eric is a 6w5, Fez is a 7w6, Hyde is an 8w9, and Donna is so all over the place as a character that who knows for sure but maybe a 1w2 or 8w9?!

For Brooke, she definitely seems like either a 1w2 or 5w6. She doesn't seem artsy/creative enough to be a 5w4.

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Totally agree with Kelso, Jackie, and Fez.

Donna is definitely an 8w9. She wants control and clarity in her life, and when she doesn't have that, she falls apart.

Eric is a tough one. I personally peg him as a 9w1, as he disintegrates into a 6 in times of stress. I've just seen 6w7 so many times, and I'm confused. He's way too introverted to have a 7 wing.

I found this nice quora comparison of an INFP 9w1 vs INFP 6w5. The first (9w1) seems to fit him more, idk.

For Hyde, it seems that his core isn't a longing for control. He's not enough of a leader to be an 8. I personally peg him as a 5w6. Red is a 6w5. They're fairly similar, but their key difference is their willingness to follow rules and protocol.

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mbti types

intj

intp

entj

entp

infj

infp

enfj

enfp

istj

isfj

estj

esfj

istp

isfp

estp

esfp

enneagram wings

1w9

1w2

2w1

2w3

3w2

3w4

4w3

4w5

5w4

5w6

6w5

6w7

7w6

7w8

8w7

8w9

9w8

9w1

moral alignments

lawful good

neutral good

chaotic good

lawful neutral

true neutral

chaotic neutral

lawful evil

neutral evil

chaotic evil

western zodiac signs

aries

taurus

gemini

cancer

leo

virgo

libra

scorpio

sagittarius

capricorn

aquarius

pisces

chinese zodiac signs

rat

ox

tiger

rabbit

dragon

snake

horse

goat

monkey

rooster

dog

pig

temperaments

melancholic

phlegmatic

sanguine

choleric

[paimonial-rage]

Genshin Impact Typology

My take on various Genshin Impact characters' mbti, enneagram, and instinctual variants. Please note that this is based upon Jungian (cognitive function) mbti, not Dichotomous mbti (if you do not know, please look it up), so if you disagree, please disagree based upon Jungian terminology. If you would like me to give reasons for any characters, please let me know.

You'll notice some types have question marks by them. They indicate the degree of my confidence in those typings. The more question marks, the less confident I am. The types in parentheses indicate other possibilities they could be. The "x" in mbti types indicates that I am unsure of which letter they are (i.e. IxFJ means they can either be an ISFJ or an INFJ). A lack of question marks or parentheses indicates that I am more or less confident in my typing.

Mondstadt

Albedo - 5w6 IxFJ sp/so

Diluc - 1w9 ISTJ(ISFP?) sp/??

Kaeya - 7w8(4w3?) ExTP sx/??

Venti - 2w3? ENFJ? so/sx

Liyue

Beidou - 7w8 ESFP sx/so?

Chongyun - 9w1 ISxJ sp/so

Ningguang - 3w4?? INTJ? sp/??

Xiao - 9w8(4w5?) ISFP sp/sx

Xingqiu - 4w3 ENFP? sx/so

Zhongli - 1w9 ISTJ sp/so

Inazuma

Arataki Itto - 3w2 ExFP so/sx

Gorou - 1w2 xSFP so/sx

Kaedehara Kazuha - 9w1 ISFJ sp/so

Kamisato Ayaka - 9w1 ISFJ sp/so

Kamisato Ayato - 3w4?? ENxJ sx/sp?(sp/sx?)

Kujou Sara - 1w9 ISTJ sp/sx?

Kuki Shinobu - 5w6 ISTJ?? sp/so

Shikanoin Heizou - 7w6 ExTP so/sx

Thoma - 2w1(9w1) ENFJ so/sx

Yae Miko - 7w8 ESxP(ENxJ?) sx/sp

Schneznaya

Childe - 7w8 ESxP sx/so

Sumeru

Alhaitham - 9w8 ISTP sp/sx

Cyno - 1w9 ISTJ? so/sp

Kaveh - 2w1 ENFP sx/so

Nilou - 9w1 ISFP so/sx

Tighnari - 5w6 INTP sx/sp

Wanderer - 4w3 INFP??? sp/sx

Fontaine

Lyney - 6w7(3w?) ExFP so/sx

Neuvillette - 1w9 ISTJ sp/so

Wriothesley - 9w8 ESTP sp/so

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Goblins of Discord 👹 Enneagram Type Database 🤓

All typings have a corresponding youtube video (linked). Many more on their way. Please note, that some of these are likely to change a bit in the future.

I’ll probably update a handful of older ones soon, as my understanding of the Enneagram has evolved since some of them were made (and is still deepening). This obsession is all-consuming and I won’t stop until I can psychically intuit every single type + instinct combination on sight, within 10 seconds and am rebirthed into my next form as the 🧞‍♀️👁️ human pixie frequency diviner of the apocalypse. 😈 🔥

If you think you’ve found a weirdo type and might want to join a typing call, DM larissa on the goblinsofdiscord instagram, or post the type below in the comments.

🍄 👀 If you want to book a typing call or submit an introvert video (of you or someone you know) to be picked over, spitroasted, impression’ed on, click here.

Enneagram Type 1

John Waters 🗑️✝️ 1w2 7w6 4w3 so/sx 💖💧🧚‍♂️ The Pope of Trash

Jamie Lee Curtis 🎃 1w2 36 so/sx 👹 The Horny Karen

Nasim Aghdam 🐅 1w9 7w6 4w5 so/sp 💥 Triple Frustration Threat

Quentin Crisp 🎀 ✨ 1w9 4w3 7w6 so/sx 🦚 Trailblazing Peacock

Enneagram Type 2

Pamela Des Barres 🌼 2w3 7w6 9w1 so/sx ☀️ Flowerchild Supergroupie

Big Edie (Grey Gardens) ✝️🐈‍⬛ 2w1 6w7 8w9 sx/so 🍸 Mother Diva

Enneagram Type 3

Lucy Lawless ⚔️ 3w2 8w7 5w6 so/sx ⚔️ watch

Montel Williams 👄 3w2 6w7 8w7 so/sp ⚔️ watch

Jensen Ackles 👻 3w2 6w7 8w9 sp/so ⭐ watch

Corey Feldman 🎩 3w2 6w7 9w1 sp/sx ★Ascension Millennium

David Fincher 🎥 3w4 5w6 8w7 sp/so 📦 What's in his Box?

Bret Easton Ellis 😍🗡️ 3w4 5w6 8w9 so/sp 🖤🚬 American Psycho

Whitney Houston 🖤 3w4 6w7 9w1 sx/so 🥀 Queen of the Night

Gregg Araki 🚬 3w4 6w7 9w8 so/sx 👄 The Doomed Enneagram

Nicole Kidman 👠 3w4 6w7 1w9 👠 watch

Emma Roberts 🫖 3w4 6w7 1w2 so/sp 🍰 watch

Belinda Carlistle 🔥 3w4 1w9 7w8 🔥 sp/so watch

Caroline Calloway 💸 3w4 7w6 9w1 so/sx ✨ Happy Scammerversary

Enneagram 4

Vivien Leigh 🌹 4w3 6w7 9w1 so/sx 🥀 Making Fours Dramatic Again

Winona Ryder 🥀 Enneagram 4w3 6w7 9w1 sp/so 🥀 The OG Sadgirl

Jeff Buckley 🥀 4w5 6w7 9w1 sx/so 💔 watch

Enneagram Type 5

Anna Khachiyan 🧠🕳️ 5w4 9w8 4w3 so/sp 🚬 watch

Shirley Jackson 🥃 5w4 📓 livestream slop job

Sam Bankman-Fried 🤓 5w6 9w8 3w4 spso 💩 Gaslighting Nerd

Enneagram Type 6

Larry David 🍋 6w5 1w9 4w3 so/sp 😒 Miserable F*ck

Lauryn Hill 😇 6w5 8w9 2w1 so/sp 🎤 Gonna Find You..

Julia Ducournau 🚗 6w5 9w1 4w3 💋 Baby, I Like it Raw

Caroline Ellison 🧠 6w7 1w2 3w2 sp/so 🖖 Polycule Pick-Me

Robert Crumb 🤡 6w7 4w5 1w2 💦 The Sex Weasel

David Icke 🦎 6w7 9w1 3w2 so/sp 👁️👽 The Passion of 6

Daniel Clowes 👻 6w7 9w1 4w3 so/sp ✒️ Like a Velvet Glove

Phil Ochs 🎸 6w7 9w1 4w5 so/sp 💧 The Misunderstood Folk Hero

Dylan Moran ☘️ 6w7 9w1 4w3 sp/so 🤴 watch

Mia Goth 🍯 6w7 9w1 2w3 sp/sx 😇 Strange Angel

Sean Baker 🍊 6w7 9w1 3w2 so/sp ☀️ Red’s Rocket

Enneagram Type 7

Josephine Baker 💃🏽 7w6 28 so/sx 🎶 Shine on, Queen

Little Edie (Grey Gardens) 🧚‍♀️ 7w6 9w1 4w3 so/sx ⭐ 🩸 Fallen Star

Florence Welch ✨ 7w6 4w3 9w1 sp/so 🧚‍♀️ Chaotic Pixie Queen

Theo Von 🍆 7w6 9w8 4w5 sp/so 🐀 The Rat King

Danny Elfman 💀 7w6 9w1 4w5 so/sp 🎃 Dead Man’s Party

Johnette Napolitano 🩸 7w6 8w9 4w5 sp/sx 🐍 Concrete Blonde

Vincent Gallo 👹 7w6 4w5 8w9 sp/sx 😈 Horny Goblin

Heidi Fleiss 🐍🦜 7w8 1w9 3w4 spsx 🍑🚬 Hollywood Madam

Eartha Kitt 😻🐈‍⬛ 7w8 4w3 1w2 sx/so 🐈‍⬛😿 Cat Woman

Enneagram Type 8

Robin Quivers 😈😇 8w7 6w7 2w1 so/sp 💋 Glorious Narcissist

Ma Anand Sheela 😎 8w9 2w1 6w5 so/sp 💧 I Love B*tches

Glenn Danzig 🦇 8w9 6w7 4w5 sx/so ☠️ Prince of Darkness

Sylvia Brown 🔮 8w9 7w8 4w5 sp/so 🧿 watch

Enneagram Type 9

Rachel Dolezal 🐑 9w8 62 sp/so🌹 Mother Issues

Kathy Bates 🍯 9w8 62 sp/so 🩸 Sweet Misery

Shelley Duvall 🍯 9w1 6w7 2w3 sp/so 🐑 The Saccharine Sacrificial Lamb

Keith Moon 💥 9w8 7w6 3w4 sp/so 🌙 Wild Man

Sophie Thatcher 🩸 9w8 7w6 4w5 sx/sp🧚‍♀️ Grime Fairy

Dash Nekrasova 🕯 9w8 4w3 7w6 sx/so 🚬 watch

Nathan Fielder 🕳️ 9w8 5w6 3w2 sp/so 🤡 watch

Cazzie David 🦝 9w8 6w7 4w5 sp/so 🦝 Sad Sack

Charles Burns 🕳️ 9w1 5w6 3w4 so/sp 🕳️ watch

David Cronenberg 📺 9w1 5w4 3w4 so/sx 👄 Dream Daddy

Jessica Lange 🦢 9w1 63 so/sp 🦢 watch

John Galliano 🧵 9w1 4w3 7w6 sx/sp 🪡 Objet D'Art

Tyler Gaca 👻 9w1 7w6 4w3 so/sx 🍯 Ghosthoney

Chuck Palahniuk 🧞‍♂️ 9w1 7w6 4w3 so/sp 😈 All Hail the God

Corey Haim 🍍 9w1 7w6 3w2 sx/so 💔 Heartbreaker

Anna Biller ☠️🔮 9w1 4w3 7w6 so/sx 💖⚗️ The Love Witch

Frank James 💅 9w1 3w4 6w7 so/sp 🔪 watch

👯✨ Twins ✨👯

Lori & George (formerly Reba) 🤠 🤩

Lori: 6w7 9w1 3w2 sp/so

George (Reba): 9w1 3w4 6w7 so/sp

Carmen & Lupita 🦋🧙🏽

Carmen 6w7 9w1 3w2 sp/so

Lupita 9w8 7w6 3w4 sp/so

[amateur-heretic]

The Extended Animix Tritype Theory of Enneagram v. 0.1

(Disclaimer: this is still pretty rough and ideas and content and are likely to change a lot)

This is an extension of the Tritype Enneagram theory created by Katherine Fauvre which identifies an archetype based off of an ordering of an Enneagram type in each of the heart, mind and gut centers of intelligence. I aim to capture dynamics of interpersonal compatibility and the relationship to the Intimate Other. The Intimate Other is not a singular person but that which both feels alien to oneself and contains a sense of wholeness. I built this framework from inspiration from Jungian psychoanalytic theory and other eclectic sources. The following description assumes people already have a firm grasp on Enneagram and Tritype theory. In the rest of this post I will be using "Dual Type" as a term to refer to one's single ideal complementary Enneagram type match, and "Tritype Dual" for one's ideal complementary Tritype match. A "valued type" is that one that shows up in ones extended typing. Wings can lead to quasi-valuing a type.

Animix is a term I coined as a gender expansive alternative for the Jungian Anima/Animus. It originally was framed as the archetype of all that which is the opposite binary gender in a person. Described as having a compensatory relationship with the persona, it serves as the connection from the Ego to the personal and collective subconscious. It can be a source of great spiritual and cognitive inspiration and fortitude.  When people come into conscious relation with it, it is often a source of profound balance and wholeness. I reinterpret Animix to refer to a gender expansive Intimate Other, rather than assigning certain traits as feminine or masculine. The Intimate Other is that which one has felt they have always known, but is mysterious and set apart.

There have been many attempts to describe patterns of Enneagram compatibility. Most of what I have seen describe types having unique dynamics with other types but not extensive recommendations of which are more or less complementary. Though this may be true in terms of there being no universal optimums for a single type, on an individual level people do have strong preferences. And these preferences are more than external taste, they form an organizing axis within that person in which much of their sense of wholeness and core motivations in relation to the world lay.

Typing Framework 

An exploratory framework for Animix extended typing has people freely rank the types they're attracted to energetically within themselves and others. This is done within two different variables. The first being Synchrony this is perceived internally as a feeling of a calm, smooth distribution and intensity of expectations across time. The second being Activation as a feeling of energy, arousal, and potentiation. A high amount of both Synchrony and Activation with another person's fixes is what helps create a foundation for an engaging, stable, and pleasant connection.

A concise typing has people identify a single fix for each center.

For example my exploratory Animix extended typing is from most to least resonant:

Animix Head Synchrony: 7w6, 5w6, 6w7, 6w5, 7w8, 5w4

Animix Head Activation: 7w6, 7w8, 6w7, 6w5, 5w6, 5w4

Animix Heart Synchrony: 3w4, 2w1, 2w3, 4w5, 4w3, 3w2, 

Animix Heart Activation: 3w4, 3w2, 4w5, 4w3, 2w1, 2w3

Animix Gut Synchrony: 8w9, 1w9, 9w1, 1w2, 9w8, 8w7

Animix Gut Activation: 8w9, 8w7, 1w2, 1w9, 9w8, 9w1

My concise Animix Extended Tritype typing is:

6w7 2w3 1w9 7w6 3w4 8w9

My Animix Dual Ttype would be 

8w9 3w4 7w6 1w9 2w3 6w7

The below section has guidelines to help explore Synchrony and Activation.

Synchrony, Activation and Wings

I operate off the basis that people have a particular wing in each fix. Wings serve as differentiation about energetic and narrative directionality. This extends to one's Animix Tritype fixes as well. A person having the non preferred wing is experienced as complementarity activating but unpleasantly dyssynchronous. If there is another type with the same wing as the Animix fix, e.g 1w9 and 8w9, it is seen as pleasantly synchronous but less complementarity activating. The adjacent type with reversed type and wing may also be perceived as alluring but somewhat peculiar and also asynchronous e.g 2w3 and 3w2. I'm currently unsure how types like 4w5 at the edge of a center fit within this to lacking one of the adjacent types most types have.

Which of the Hornevian Groups a wing belongs to also influences synchrony. A similar Hornevian Trend to the core type(compliant being more similar to aggressive than withdrawn) or similar direction of difference between the main type and the wing can lead to potentially more synchrony. 

The two examples below are the same direction of difference. Hornevian Trends of away and against being opposites and Towards being in-between. 

Compliant -> Withdrawn

Aggressive -> Withdrawn 

People who possess the same fix may be perceived in a sibling-like manner. That is to say a diffused connection, and familiar with shared values. 

The closer the Hornevian group a core type belongs to compared with a valued(especially Animix fix) type the more activating a type may be. 

Fixes

There are correlations but no rules for which types people have as Animix fixes.

However, the Tritype fix ordering for the Animix Tritype are reversed. For example if your ordering is head-heart-gut, your Animix Tritype ordering will be gut-heart-head.

The tertiary fix tends to be somatically experienced as alien and energetically easily dispersed. Resonance with energy of the dual type of that complementary center, whether it be from personal activities or connection with others, can elicit a sense of vibrant awe-inspiring wholeness. This sense of resonance with underactivated parts of oneself extends to all types of complementary center.

Animix fixes can be homogeneous with ones Ego fixes, i.e. same types in each center. They may also be heterogeneous and drastically different. It is interesting to explore why Enneagram may allow for homogeneous or heterogeneous complementary pairs unlike other personality systems like Attitudinal Psyche or Socionics. I suspect this is because Enneagram describes flows and transformations of narrative. This is in contrast to other typology systems being lopsided, symmetric, functional units that require particular responses mechanically for effective allostasis.

Dimensionality 

The fixes are ordered and can be referred to as by their numeric ordering, and borrowing a concept from Socionics(https://wikisocion.github.io/content/dimensionality.html) have the following dimensional strengths 

As conscious structuring of ones one core motivations:

Primary: 4d

Secondary: 3d

Tertiary: 2d

As unconscious structuring of compensatory, idealized, and Intimate Other archetypes

Quarternary: 3d

Quinary: 2d

Senary: 1d

In the case that one's ego types and ones animix types are the same it is important to recognize dimensionality is directed towards consciousness and particulars in one's Ego fixes, and in one's Animix fixes, the personal and collective unconsciousness and archetypes.

Conclusion

Despite requiring some baseline knowledge about Enneagram, it's a worthy practice to type oneself in this theory fairly early on in one's Enneagram exploration journey. Beyond interpersonal compatibility, it has a lot of uses for spiritual and psychological empowerment. It may make sense to leave wings until one has a firm grasp on the system. If people don't find it intuitive it may make sense to focus on getting a stronger grasp of the core types and their own and other's Tritypes. 

There is a requisite amount of necessary life exploration and  personal growth to be able to type oneself in this system. A lot of people are attracted towards types that they associate with pain and frustration because of traumatic or disempowering life experiences. Rather than ideally typing based off of what feels enlivening. Conversely positive experiences with people where compatibility is socially situational or in context of other fixes, compatible neurodivergence, or other personality types also skews a sense of affinity with a type.

I hope people find this framework helpful for personal reflection and I'm eager to hear thoughts or relevant experiences others may have ✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:*