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Song Of The Deep

Pairing - Lee Seokmin (Siren) x Female Reader (Researcher)

Genre - Fantasy, Angst, 18+ Themes

Warnings- Alcohol use, mentions of death and suicide, darker themes present, mentions of sexual encounters, sexual themes, intercourse, unprotected (wrap before you tap please), swearing. (If I missed anything let me know)

Author's Note -sorry this took so long a lot happened since the last post from this series. I also wanna say smut is not my strong suit so keep that in mind. I appreciate it. Please Enjoy<3

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Seokmin’s Point Of View

They say that stories from the past often contain hidden truths, whether the modern world chooses to acknowledge them or not. Tales of vengeful gods and goddesses, of malevolent creatures and spirits—each carries a thread of reality that resonates through time. It was with this understanding that Seokmin, finding himself alone in the house, felt the pressing need to confront his reality. Deep down, he knew that action was imperative, and it had to be swift. Time was no longer on his side, and he could no longer afford to remain passive. This moment was not just about protecting someone—it was about confronting the very nature he had spent his life trying to escape.

Seokmin sat in his dimly lit bedroom, the glow of the computer screen casting an eerie light across his face. He sifted through an array of ancient texts and myths, seeking guidance from stories that stretched back to the dawn of Greek civilization. Each account, each legend, held the potential to reveal insights that might inform his next steps. He scoured these narratives with a sense of urgency, hoping to find a clue, a strategy that would help him navigate the path before him.

As he delved deeper into these ancient records, a recurring theme emerged, one that troubled him morally but resonated with a deep, unsettling truth. It was the concept of staking a claim—an idea that spoke to an intrinsic need for ownership and control. This notion, though ethically questionable, was a consistent thread woven through the tales of gods and monsters alike. It was a concept he now realized he could no longer ignore.

Seokmin knew he was at a crossroads, caught between the man he had been and the nature he had tried so desperately to deny. The choice before him was clear, though not without its moral quandaries: to assert his claim and embrace his true self or to continue fleeing from the very essence of who he was.

Seokmin leaned back in his chair, the weight of his decision pressing heavily on him. His fingers drummed absentmindedly on the edge of the desk as he mulled over the implications of the stories he had just read. Each tale of gods and sirens spoke of an inherent need to assert dominance, to claim what was perceived as rightfully theirs. Yet, as he considered the ancient texts, he was haunted by the ethical implications of such actions.

The room was silent except for the soft hum of the computer and the occasional creak of the old wooden floorboards. The darkness outside the window seemed to mirror the uncertainty within him. Seokmin’s reflection stared back at him from the screen, a man caught between two worlds—one of modernity and reason, the other of ancient instincts and primal urges.

He glanced at his watch, noting how the hours had slipped away as he delved into the past. He was running out of time. The urgency of the situation was compounded by the fact that the safety of those he cared about hinged on his next move. He needed to act, and to do so with the decisiveness that his nature demanded.

A flicker of resolve sparked within him. He rose from his chair and paced the room, his mind racing through the strategies he had gleaned from the texts. The notion of staking a claim, though morally ambiguous, seemed to be the key. It wasn’t just about possession; it was about establishing a presence, asserting control in a way that would secure his position and protect those he cared about.

The only other time he felt so connected with his siren was when he was a kid. He didn’t know who he was but he knew he was different. Whenever things wouldn’t go his way he would manipulate his way to be the only correct answer. That was until he was so angry about his mother canceling his tenth birthday party that he uttered the words ‘I hate you, I wish you were dead’ to his mother. Two days later his mother was found dead floating in a river. She had killed herself, with no prior history of suicidal ideations. She left no notes behind saying why she did it or what compelled her to leave such a happy life behind. But Seokmin knew, he knew he had used his powers for evil, a power he didn’t understand. Everyday he hated himself for what he did and the fact that he could tell noone that he knew why.

Shaking off the bad memory Seokmin’s thoughts returned to her—his focus, his obsession. She was both his greatest vulnerability and his strongest motivation. Her safety was paramount, and if asserting his claim was the means to ensure it, then he would have to embrace it, no matter the personal cost. He recalled the stories of sirens and their possessive nature, of how their enchantments bound their prey to them. Yet he didn’t view her as prey, he viewed her as who she is and he would have kept it at that if it weren’t for the danger he feels she is in.

That’s why, later that night at the picnic, when Lucy suggested playing "Never Have I Ever," Seokmin eagerly agreed. He knew it was wrong to deliberately try to get Y/N intoxicated, but he preferred this method over resorting to other means. From the moment she walked back into the house, every move he made was calculated—from his quick remarks to his "good boy" act. His sole aim was to make her fall under his spell, to claim her as his and his alone.

It was almost animalistic how he observed her when she wasn’t looking, a truth he couldn’t deny. He was driven by an intense desire to prove that he was not someone to have things taken from him.

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Seokmin’s gaze softened as he turned to you, a practiced warmth in his eyes. “Exactly. Sometimes, we need to let go of the past and focus on what’s right in front of us.”

He watched your reaction carefully, noting how you seemed to relax at his words. The subtext was intentional, part of a plan he’d meticulously orchestrated. He could see the appreciation in your eyes, and it was a small victory. “You’re right,” you said, “I’m really enjoying this moment with you.”

He sat up, his movements purposeful as he faced you. His hand brushed against yours, a touch both casual and strategically placed. “You know,” he said softly, “it’s moments like these that remind me of what really matters. Being present, sharing stories, and just enjoying the company we’re with.”

You turned fully towards him, your heart fluttering at the intimacy of the moment. “I couldn’t agree more. This evening has been incredible.”

Seokmin held your gaze, savoring the way his eyes sparkled in the moonlight and the warmth of his smile. He could sense the electricity in the air, the way his touch made you shiver. It was all going according to his plan. The space between you was shrinking, and he could feel the soft warmth of your breath against his skin.

His hand cupped your face, his thumb brushing gently across your cheek. The tenderness of his touch was carefully chosen to evoke the right response. “There’s something magical about tonight, don’t you think?” he whispered, his voice low and intimate.

You nodded, mesmerized by his gaze. “Absolutely.”

With a slow, measured motion, Seokmin leaned in. His lips brushed against yours in a gentle, tentative kiss. He could feel your heart race, and it was a gratifying confirmation that his plan was working. The kiss was brief, almost experimental, but it stirred a deep, electric sensation.

He pulled back slightly, eyes searching yours for a reaction. There was a hint of vulnerability, a strategic gamble that you would respond favorably. Your gaze encouraged him, and he leaned in again, this time with more confidence.

The second kiss was deeper, more passionate. Seokmin’s lips moved against yours with a tenderness that spoke of the affection he was trying to convey. His hands framed your face, adding a layer of comfort and intimacy. The kiss deepened, a dance of emotions and unspoken desires, his touch both comforting and fervent.

As the kiss continued, Seokmin’s hands traveled to your back, pulling you closer. He could feel the warmth of your body against his, the rhythm of your heartbeat syncing with his own. The world seemed to fade away, leaving just the sensation of your lips and the soft evening breeze.

When the kiss finally broke, you both pulled back slightly, your foreheads touching. The connection between you felt profound, and the warmth of the moment lingered. Seokmin could see the longing in your eyes, a desire for more that matched his own.

Without breaking eye contact, you leaned in again, and Seokmin’s eyes widened slightly in surprise before softening with understanding. You pressed your lips to his once more, this time with a deeper, more fervent kiss. The passion was mutual, a melding of emotions that made the stars seem to shine brighter.

Seokmin responded with equal fervor, his hands holding you close, pulling you into his embrace. The kiss was slow and intentional, a reaffirmation of the feelings he had carefully nurtured throughout the evening. Each touch, each caress felt like a victory, a confirmation that his plan had worked perfectly.

As Seokmin pressed his lips against yours, he felt a rush of satisfaction. The taste of cider lingered between you, subtly sweet with hints of the evening’s warmth. Each brush of his lips against yours was meticulously crafted, a confirmation of the success of his carefully devised plan.

He relished the sensation, noting how your lips were soft and warm, their sweetness perfectly complementing the evening’s ambiance. As he deepened the kiss, he sensed the way his presence was enveloping you. The way your lips responded, the way you leaned into him—it was all proof of his influence taking hold.

In the midst of the kiss, Seokmin’s thoughts were a whirl of triumph and control. He could feel the delicate tremor in your body, the way you melted into his embrace. This was the moment he had orchestrated, where every touch, every caress, had led to this exact outcome. The kiss wasn’t just about affection; it was a testament to his ability to shape the situation to his will.

He could tell you were under his spell now. The way your eyes fluttered closed, your breath quickened in sync with his—it was as if he had drawn a web around you, pulling you in with each deliberate touch. Seokmin was acutely aware of the control he wielded, the way his touch made you shiver with anticipation.

Every sensation was amplified in this intimate moment—the warmth of your skin, the soft sighs escaping your lips, the way your fingers clung to him, anchoring yourself to him. It was a reflection of his success, of how deeply his influence had settled within you.

As the kiss deepened, Seokmin felt a surge of pride. This wasn’t just about physical connection; it was about the psychological hold he had over you. The way your body responded so willingly, the way you seemed to surrender to the kiss—it was all part of his grand design. He was affirming his place in your world, making it clear that his presence was both irresistible and inescapable.

As Seokmin felt her fingers exploring his hair, he was acutely aware of the subtle vibrations of her breathing and the gentle tremors in her touch. Each soft, breathy noise she made while they kissed sent jolts of electricity through him, igniting a fire he hadn't anticipated. His hands instinctively found their way to her hips, gripping them with a possessive urgency, as though his touch was the only thing preventing her from slipping away.

The world outside seemed to fade, leaving only the two of you in this suspended reality where Seokmin’s control was absolute. But as the kiss reached its peak, he felt you begin to pull away.

When she finally pulled back, her breath catching in her throat, Seokmin's gaze remained locked on her. He saw her left hand rise to press softly against her lips, an innocent gesture that revealed the depth of her emotions. In that moment, Seokmin realized she held something he desperately wanted—something he knew she might not even be aware she was offering.

His right hand glided up her side before coming to rest on her cheek, his fingers brushing a strand of hair behind her ear to better see her. At the same time, she lowered her hand to his chest. The contact was electric, heightening his awareness of her and intensifying the connection between them.

‘Please don’t stop here’ He softly begged in his head before pushing towards his end goal.

Seokmin began to run his right end from where he tucked the strand of hair to her cheek, savoring the feel of the soft skin as he cupped it for a moment. Watching her face he saw her eyes fog over with some sort of need. Though he knew he would have to make the final push to cement his intentions.

‘I am sorry’

“Please,” Purposefully he drags his hand lower to her lips and places his thumb against her bottom lip. He lowered his voice allowing a desperate tone to escape his words.

‘Please understand, I am doing this for you’

“Please what Seokmin,” You had questioned him, there was many answers to that question.

‘Please run, get away from me’

Seokmin leans closer to your right ear, for a brief, charged moment, his gaze seemed to deepen and darken, as if an unseen force was drawing the light out of them. The irises shifted, turning into a striking shade of deep, oceanic blue, their depth now holding an almost hypnotic quality. Flecks of shimmering silver, like moonlight caught on waves, began to swirl within the changing hue, giving his eyes an otherworldly, mesmerizing glow.

“Let me ruin you,” His voice dropped four octaves lower as he tugs on your bottom lip that he was playing with before. “Let me show you that no one will be as good as me,” Seokmin adds in before dragging his tongue against the nap of your neck and sinking his teeth into the flesh. This pulls a yelp from your lips that throws fluid to his fire.

‘Kill her’

The hand that once rested against his chest trailed its way up all the way to his throat before you wrap your fingers around it. Each movement leaving his inner self screaming for her to run away from him.

“I’d like to see you try,” Your words fall into the air followed by the squeeze of his neck and is what makes him come undone, what ever self control he thought he possessed was no longer available to take up rent space in his mind.

‘Time to play’

Seokmin is quick to grab unto your wrist and push you back on the blanket, placing his free hand around your throat quickly. A growl rolls up through his throat as he fights with himself to not break your neck.

Sirens are sexual beings, but they are also murderous. They will take everything from you and kill you with the slightest disrespect. They do not care, they are selfish and vile creatures that take and never give. It is almost like a game of cat and mouse but you will always be caught in the end. There is very rare chance of escaping the grasps once a siren has their eyes on you. In Seokmin’s case, this will not end up with someone dying, this is to save someone.

Readjusting his hand placement he hold unto your chin and forces your head to look to the left leaving your neck exposed to him. Leaning down he begins to kiss your neck his grip on your wrist loosening.

“Safe word,” Seokmin mumbles into the crevice of your neck, his hand that once held your wrist glides down to your elbow leaving Seokmin vulnerable to the idea of using you for his own gain. Seokmin pulls back to look at you in your eyes to watch your reactions.

Your body shivers at the touch as you look up at him through blown pupils, your lip caught in between your teeth holding your breath scared but willing for his next move.

“Come on sweetheart use your words.” He sensually says glancing from your lips to your eyes. He watches as your look off to the side looking for something before you mutter two words.

“Red Wine.” Your voice comes out breathless as you turn your head back to look at him.

His hand that was was resting by your elbow moves further down until it stops at the hem of your dress hiking it up higher on your thigh. At this point Seokmin found himself lowering his lips to kiss down your neck once again this time traveling lower to your exposed collarbone.

Your Point of view

As Seokmin’s fingers danced across your thigh you could only respond by arching your back up towards his body. You felt like your skin was on fire, the near closeness of him sobered you up from the alcohol but filled you with a different type of drunk.

“May I?” Seokmin voice cuts through the sound of your beating heart his finger tapping against your dress.

“Yes,” This one word truly cemented that there was no way back from this. Pulling back from your body he takes both of his hands and push up your dress having it land on your belly button exposing your underwear.

A small low chuckle leaves his lips as he stares at the beauty below him. “How did you know my favorite color was blue?” He hummed as he looped his finger on the top of your underwear playing with the bow.

‘I wish I wore a better pair.’ You thought embarrassingly since you were only dawning a simple pair a blue underwear. A pair you got in a pack from walmart for less then ten dollars.

Pushing himself back he begins to press kisses against your stomach getting closer and closer to your underwear. Soft moans escape your lips, his warm lips felt like heaven against your cold skin. Seokmin takes the fingers that were once playing with the small bow and began to strip you of your garment his lips following in the trail until they land just above your clit and he stops.

“Fuck,” Seokmin purrs out looking up at you through his eyelashes, “You needy little thing.” He places two fingers between your lips gathering your dampness. A shiver runs through your body at the sensation. “So wet and I haven’t even done anything.” Taking those two fingers he brings them up to your lips.

“Suck,” He demands his voice powerful and enchanting.

Seokmins Point Of View

‘Y/N would you still be this eager for me if you knew the awful shit I want to do to you.’

As you sucked on his fingers his body felt like it was on fire. He was burning with energy, his siren screaming to be let out.

“Good girl,” He praises before making eye contact with your pussy, taking his now extra lubricated fingers he pulls apart your lips and leans closer. His eyes shifted again this time he didn't care as he licks a long strip collecting your wetness.

You tasted like honey on his tongue and the moans he enlisted from your pretty lips only made him want to take more from you. He began to lick more his tongue connecting with your clit causing your hips to jerk up instinctively.

“There you go pretty girl.” He slips one finger inside of you and curls it watching your reaction from between your legs, the way your eyes rolled back into your head and your mouth hangs agape at the new sensation. You were warm and soft around his finger, and with every curl of his finger he felt resistance causing his finger to ache but he didn’t want to stop.

“Seokmin,” You moan out your voice coming barely above a whisper-music to his ears.

“You are taking me so good,” His voice sounded slightly different, it had more of a melody to it. He begins to add another finger watching as it slips into your greedy hole. He pairs to movement of his fingers to the movement of his hand curling and licking you. Your moans became more prevalent and louder.

He pulls away from your body which causes a whine of loss to slip from your lips. He began to undress himself starting with his loose fitting white tee. As he pulls it over his head he shivers a bit at the cold air hitting his torso goosebumps dimpling his tan skin. Once it was over his head he discarded it off to the side it landing in the sand with a thump. This is when he looks at you, really looks at you. The way your eyes were heavy from the little amount of pleasure he had placed upon you. How your cheeks were red from a mixture of blush and arousal. How your hair sprawled underneath your head. You were beautiful, you had a unique beauty to you. A human beauty to you, it was so simple yet so captivating.

Seokmin leans down and places his lips against your cheek holding them there for a few seconds before sliding his hands up your dress. When his hands meet with your ribs he taps his fingers twice against them.

“Sit up beautiful so I can take this off of you.” He mutters against your cheek in which you reply and sit up with him holding your sides. He pulls the dress off of your body and takes a good look at you. “Damn.” He mutters.

‘If things were different we would be good together’

“What?” Your voice comes out small and shy as you take your arms and place them against his pecs. He shivers again as your nails drag against his skin.

“I want to be inside of you,” He says bluntly as he grabs your hands from his chest and leads them downward to his pants. “Take them off,” he growls.

Your Point of View

‘Was he always this hot?’ You questioned your body gradually heating up. Your thighs were sticking together from the mess that Seokmin had made.

With shaky hands you unbutton his pants and drag them down his body before they get stopped at his knees in which he does the rest. Watching intently you see him throw them off to where his shirt laid. The only thing left on his body were a pair of tight black briefs, outlining his bulge.

He was huge.

Laying a flat hand against his chest you drag it down his pelvis eliciting a lewd groan from Seokmin. This gave you courage to hook your fingers to his waistband and drag his briefs down.

Every inch exposed of his skin made you more excited. Eventually he was exposed to you completely naked, his eyes barring down at you. Cautiously you wrap your hands around his base causing a sudden gasp to leave his lips.

“Y/N, what are you doing?” Seokmin questioned but never made a move to stop you.

You licked your lips, shifting your hips slightly to get more comfortable. “What does it look like?” Running your thumb across the slit of his cock your hone into his reactions. A shiver runs through his body and he sucks his lip between his teeth.

You instinctively lean in, your heart racing with excitement as you draw them closer. As one hand left feathering touches against his cock you took your time with your free hand running up and down his thigh. Eventually you begin to pepper kisses starting mid thigh all the way up to his pelvis. For a brief moment you pause looking up at him for permission. He nods slowly his right hand weaving into your hair and giving he a gentle squeeze.

As you take them into your mouth, a shiver runs through you both. You can taste them, feel them, and every sensation ignites a fire within you. Seokmin tasted of salt and skin, which didn’t bother you. Taking your tongue you swirl it around his tip and push your head down until your nose meets skin. A gag mixed with a hum of surprise vibrated around him as the air filled with his pretty moans.

“Fuck-“ Seokmin groans out his fingers tightening their hold in your hair.

The connection intensifies as you lock eyes, a silent understanding of shared pleasure passing between you. You take your time, savoring every moment, the way his breath hitches and his body responds to your movements. You explore every inch, relishing the way they react, the way their pleasure fuels your own.

You quicken your pace slightly, letting instinct guide you. Each rhythmic motion drives you both closer to the edge, the night air filling with wet sloppy sounds and his melodious moans. After about two minutes Seokmin grips your hair tightly and pulls you off of him.

“Not like this,” He says breathy as he grabs your face and pulls you up to meet his lips. Pushing you back down to the blankets Seokmin hovers above you, his body blocking out the moonlight as he leans in closer. His lips continue to find yours in a searing kiss, igniting a fire deep within you. The taste of him is intoxicating, and you melt into him as his hands explore your waist, fingers trailing over your skin, igniting sparks of pleasure with every touch.

With a teasing smirk, he pulls back slightly, his breathing heavy as he gazes into your eyes. “I’ve been waiting for this,” he breathes, his voice low and husky. You feel a rush of anticipation flood through you as he begins to kiss down your neck, each tender nibble causing you to arch against him.

“Please, Seokmin,” you manage to gasp, your voice thick with need. He looks down at you, the intensity in his gaze igniting your core.

In one fluid motion, he positions himself at your entrance, his eyes locked on yours as he enters you slowly, filling you completely. You both gasp in unison—the sensation overwhelming as he stretches you perfectly. At first it hurt, a familiar burning sensation but it pooled away when pleasure hit you. Tears brimmed as you winced when he adjusted slightly the kissing of your teeth caused him to pause.

“Are you okay?” This was the first time he checked in with you. Concern lacing his eyes as he takes a hand and gently touches your cheek. With a nod in response you clench around him, he felt amazing.

Seokmin begins to move, each thrust deliberate and deep. The sensation of his body sliding against yours mixes with the sound of the ocean, creating a hypnotic rhythm. You can’t help but let your head fall back, surrendering to the pleasure that washes over you with every movement.

“Just like that,” he grunts, watching your reactions closely. His hands grip your hips, anchoring you in place as he drives deeper, each thrust pushing you closer to the edge. The world around you fades—there’s only the two of you, lost in the primal dance of desire.

“Seokmin,” you breathe, the pleasure building, your body rising to meet him as your nails dig into his back. He brushes his lips against your ear, whispering words that send shivers down your spine, fueling the fire that’s pooling within you.

As the tension reaches its peak, you can feel yourself spiraling toward the edge, pleasure coursing through you like a wave crashing onto the shore. Seokmin can sense this too or at least you think he does because he grabs onto your thigh and digs his nails into your skin.

“You are so close Princess,” He grunts into your ear, caging you underneath him as he slows down his thrust. “Beg for me to let you cum.” He growls into your ear, his grip on your thigh tightening as he halts his movements. “Beg like I am the only man who has ever made you feel this good.” He coos before nipping at your ear.

“Please,” You choke out, “Please l-let me.” He chuckles at your pleading as he begins to speed up his hand wrapping around your throat.

“Cum for me princess,” He grunts, using the hand that gripped your thigh he begins to rub against your clit to get you closer than before.

The band that had been building in your stomach snaps. Warmth floods over your body gasping out in need of air as his name leaves your lips like a mantra.

Seokmin follows closely after, his own moans mingling with yours as he finds his release, burying himself deep within you as waves of pleasure radiate through both your bodies. During the slow down he pushed his head into your neck breathing heavily against it. Your hands find solace against his back as you guys are still only breathing away the sex and high.

In the middle of gaining coherence you hear him say something strange.

“She is mine.”

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Silas Barclay, Jr.

Name: Silas Casten Barclay II (Jr.) Age: 28 Highest Education: Bachelor’s in Environmental Science Star Sign: Aries Moon Sign: Aries Rising Sign: Sagittarius Hangout: Graves (Bar) Favorite Things: E’s signature Old Fashioneds, bow hunting season, gambling, talking shit, and his best friend, Jasper Barclay. Least Favorite Things: His father, beer and hard seltzers, {redacted}, and anyone who’s ever said, “Hunting is a job?”. Fun Fact: Never understands any modern references or memes Jasper tries to show him. Personality: Silas is known around town for his brash and aggressive attitude, and while he is those things, he’s also incredibly observant and perceptive. However, the later are traits he’d rather hide away as his father enjoys calling them ‘sensitive attributes’. Even when he shouldn’t be, he’s conscious of his family’s wishes and does his best to fill the mold they’ve laid out for him. Appearance: 6’1. Tan skin. Dark brown eyes. Long, black hair (with a gray streak at the font) that’s normally pulled back in a bun. Wears dark jeans, plain t-shirts, and simple tennis shoes a majority of the time.

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Name: Vernon/Verena Reese Hart Age: 31 Highest Education: High School Diploma Star Sign: Libra Moon Sign: Cancer Rising Sign: Aquarius Hangout: N/AFavorite Things: Horror movies (slashers and creature features are their favorites), collecting funky mugs, volunteering at animal shelters, and film photography. Least Favorite Things: Pretentiousness, art schools, and their anxiety. Fun Fact: Can play guitar and would be a musician if not a photographer. Personality: V is known for their expansive creativity; they see the world as a canvas ready to photograph, narrate, paint, etc. To the world, they may be bubbly and fun and a bit too self-centered, but you see a different side of them. With you they’re more attentive and caring; it’s less about them and more about your needs and feelings. Appearance: 5’8. Pale skin. Green eyes. Curly, long (light coppery) red hair parted in the middle with curtain bangs (Verena). Short on the sides, long on top, curly, red hair styled messily (Vernon). Freckles across their nose and cheek. Double ear piercings. Both dress rather casually in jeans, pullovers, and simple shoes.

Cash/Cassandra Landry

Name: Cash/Cassandra Riven Landry Age: 35 Highest Education: ??? Star Sign: Sagittarius Moon Sign: Scorpio Rising Sign: Taurus Favorite Things: Leading the church, polaroid photos, communion, and baptismal sessions in Vonn Swamp. Least Favorite Things: {redacted}, {redacted}, their parents, their sisters, and Orson Landry. Fun Fact: Has tried to re-write the bible on multiple occasions. Personality: Cash/Cassandra are known for being a little odd, but they still manage to draw people in with an easy charisma. They’re the epitome of understanding how to make you feel like you are the most seen and important person in the room. Despite their long-winded, religious rants, people still line up to talk to them when they come into the heart of the town. Appearance: 5’10. Pale skin. Light blue eyes. Long, straight blonde (platinum) hair that they normally wear down. No piercings or tattoos. Often seen wearing their ‘Sunday best’, monochromatic white outfits.

#if wip #character: silas barclay #character: nell valez #character: e van de ber #character: orson barclay #character: v hart #character: c landry

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Say “Ahh” 🥣 💊

Self care for your sick clone ~😷🌡️

Further rambling below

So I can draw again (kind of??) Thing is the new stylus works but since my current hp spectre laptop is a lot bigger than my last one, it’ll take me some time to fully warm up to it. (it also overheats if I use it too long… >.>)

Also embarrassing realization on my part, but the sensitivity of my stylus could be fixed in clip studio itself. The reason it was drawing lines so thick is because I didn’t set the touch setting to pc tablet. That fixed everything and now I can draw with the same lines as I did before. Don’t judge me I was drawing on that old spectre tablet for years (i got it way back in 2017) and I forgot how I set it up before...😅

So yay, I’m back art-wise. But it’ll take me some time to fully warm up to the change. So I went over one of my marker pen sketches as a practice piece and turned it into a little 4 parter. You know I love it when sickies get fed by their caretakers c: I already drew makoto feeding yuma before, so now it's his turn!🥣

This isn’t my best work, not by a long-shot this is mediocre at best. But it did make my sketch look better so it’s a win I guess. (side views are still the bane of my existence >_>)

I’ll still draw but it may be slower than usual. I have college courses to focus on and some other things too (I miss my freedom ;-;)

Anyway, hope you enjoy this soft little moment between these two :3 Makoto loves being pampered by Yuma, even if he doesn’t admit it 💜

#whumpcode #rain code #master detective archives: rain code #rain code spoilers #mdarc spoilers #yuma kokohead #makoto kagutsuchi #makoyuma #pixeldoodles #my art #sick comfort #I’m kinda back w art??? but not really #i just figured I’d try drawing SOMETHING this month #anyway enjoy the sillies #rice porridge be the token sick anime food #idt they have soup over there lol xD #I can’t draw a spoon properly to save my life lol #i deleted the traditional version for a reason lol #having them domestically care for and spoil each other brings me so much happiness and comfort <3

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hi Silver! o/ because that fanart made me wonder - would you happen to know when/where Dick's stuffed elephant plush Zitka turns up in the comics?

GREETINGS CAM <3333 THAT ART WAS SO CUTE

Yeah, I think your instincts are right - it's a truly adorable bit of transformative fandom, but I'm 95% percent sure it's not comics canon. Barbara has canon plushies, but I don't think anyone else does.

I got kinda invested in the investigation (it's hard to prove a negative!) and I ended up typing out an entire History of Elinore/Zitka, so, uh, if you're curious, meet me below the cut for:

Where does Elinore / Zitka - the animal - appear in comics?

Did Dick ever have a stuffed elephant toy in comics?

Where does Elinore / Zitka appear in comics?

We're gonna go in chronological order!

Dick's circus elephant friend was first created for practical reasons: in Batman 436, Marv Wolfman does a big expanded flashback to Dick's circus backstory as a way to subtly show us Tim before officially introducing him (so that we can have a technically-solvable mystery-of-Tim's-identity in LPoD). In this comic, there's an elephant named Elinore who loves Dick:

Aww. Such a cute elephant!

Batman 436 comes out in August 1989. New Titans 60 comes out a few months later, in November, and guess what? When Dick visits the circus, he is suddenly surprised by an unexpected blast from the past! It turns out that even though it's been years, Elinore still remembers him!

Here's the part where Elinore remembers Dick:

SUCH a cute elephant. I love her.

(Guess who else still remembers Dick even though it was so long ago. Guess which other character is about to be an unexpected blast from the past. Guess which character Elinore is directly paralleling guess guess guess sorry everything is about Dick and Tim in my mind but I can focus I swear)

Four years later, in 1993, Batman: The Animated Series retells Dick's origin story. They like and keep Wolfman's elephant, but they change her name to Zitka:

Wolfman doesn't return to the elephant beyond those two appearances, and a few years down the line, New Titans gets cancelled and Wolfman's not writing Dick anymore anyway. So the animal gets abandoned for a while, until Devin Grayson, a fan of both Wolfman and B:tAS, revives the Wolfman-era Titans team in JLA/Titans and then the ongoing series Titans 1999.

Grayson then brings back the elephant in a flashback to Dick's past in Titans 16 (Jun 2000), where she imports the B:tAS name. Sometimes I'm skeptical of TV-to-comics imports, but honestly, I endorse this one. You lose the alliteration, which is a shame, but IMO Zitka is a better elephant name than Elinore.

Here's Dick with the newly-christened Zitka in Titans 16:

Grayson also briefly references the elephant in Gotham Knights 20 and - in a final angsty callback - in Nightwing 88 (Feb 2004), where Zitka tries futilely to comfort Dick in the midst of his trauma conga line:

... And... honestly, I think that's it for comic appearances? The two Wolfman comics plus the three Grayson comics.

Both Wolfman and Grayson are writing multiple titles - Batman, New Titans, Titans, Gotham Knights, and Nightwing between the two of them, spanning a big chunk of Dick's post-Crisis canon - and both writers use the elephant for heartwarming moments of nostalgia, which means if you're doing a post-Crisis readthrough for Dick, Elinore/Zitka feels memorable. But I don't think she actually shows up that much.

For post-2011, I am not as well-informed - throwing this out to the dash? anyone know? - but I feel like Zitka the heartwarming symbol of Dick's heartwarming circus past is, uh, thematically very at odds with the Court of Owls evil!circus vibes, so my instinct is that this story element was almost certainly dropped in the reboot.

Did Dick ever have a stuffed elephant toy in comics?

In WFA, yes; in main comics continuity, no. Technically, I have not read every comic ever published, so I could be wrong!! But I don't think so.

Below, find my rambling reasoning on the tonal vibes of pre-Crisis, post-Crisis, and post-2011, and why this particular story element doesn't seem right to me for the first two.

Pre-Crisis (...okay, mostly the Silver Age): stuffed animal, yes or no?

tl;dr no, requires too much background knowledge on the part of the reader, plus the elephant wasn't a thing until later

Elinore doesn't get created until post-Crisis, but also just generally, pre-Crisis callbacks are more along the lines of this reference in Batman 129 (published in 1960), where, wow, Batman and Robin are hunting jewel thieves - and it turns out Robin recognized this strongman! BUT HOW?!

The comic goes on to recap Dick's entire origin story in flashback, on the assumption that you may not know it.

(BTW, if you'd like to know more about Haly's Circus throughout the years, nightwingology has a great post here summarizing a lot of fun plotlines and characters!)

Basically: Silver Age comics are very self-consciously episodic and kid-friendly; they're not generally gonna do overly-elaborate callbacks because they don't know what comics their kid readers may have randomly picked up or remember.

By the time of post-Crisis, comic books were being written for an adult audience buying from the direct market, i.e. readers who are collecting whole runs & don't need or want Dick's origin story to be recapped to us in full every time it's referenced. That's why in post-Crisis, we get stuff like "hey, neat, this particular soda brand is getting mentioned in several different books!!" or "in order to understand this story arc, buy SIXTEEN DIFFERENT COMICS in FIVE DIFFERENT RUNS and read them ALL ACCORDING TO A NUMBERED ORDER and also you better be following the individual plotlines and recognize these five minor characters who we don't bother to introduce!! Good luck!!" But the elaborate post-Crisis plotlines - and subtler worldbuilding like a stuffed animal callback to Dick's backstory - don't make a lot of story sense UNLESS you're imagining your readers as completionist adult fans.

So IMO a stuffed animal wouldn't be a pre-Crisis thing unless it was The Episodic Story Of the Week, and I don't think a stuffed animal is action-adventure-y enough for the fast-paced storytelling of the Silver Age. (Unless it, like, came to life and tried to eat you or something.)

Post-Crisis: stuffed animals, yes or no?

tl;dr: no, Dick's a manly tough guy, he's not gonna have a stuffed animal, that'd be lame, like something Tim might do

Part of the edgy grimdark adult vibes in 80s/90s comics is that some characters who used to be kinda silly & goofy & lighthearted - like Batman and Robin - get reimagined as Serious and Angsty and Edgy in a Tough Cool Manly Brooding Way. This massively affects characterization for Bruce, Dick, and Bruce and Dick's relationship.

(I obviously love this change & love the tense Bruce-and-Dick interactions, but plenty of fans of the earlier fluffy comics really disliked the edgy retcons of Miller / Wolfman / Starlin / et al.)

The upshot is that post-Crisis is a period when you could have a recurring reference like a stuffed elephant, but you wouldn't have a stuffed elephant, not for Dick. I think a toy like that would be too cutesy / childish / effeminate to give a male character in post-Crisis, unless you were poking fun at him.

Now, you could probably let Tim have a stuffed animal, because Tim is sometimes cool but also sometimes a tryhard loser who is faking being cool and not entirely pulling it off (see e.g. the Robin comic where he practices tough-guy faces in the mirror, or the Teen Titans comic where Conner discovers his cringy Enya CD, or when he's fanboying over Connor and it's awkward, etc etc.). A stuffed animal would be deeply embarrassing, and you'd have to be careful to compensate by having Tim do something cool afterward - but Tim's character concept allows for "he's kind of a loser sometimes."

But Dick isn't!! In post-Crisis, Dick's a tough / impressive / "cool guy" character, the kind of guy anyone would want to be, even in the flashbacks where he's Robin, and even in the stories where he's more lighthearted than angsty. It'd be kinda lame for Dick to have a stuffed elephant, so he wouldn't. I feel like Dick would be more likely to poke fun at it if someone had one, like when he's making fun of Wally for liking the Hardy Boys. Dick could have a Batman action figure, at most, and if he had one he would have it ironically.

Basically: in post-Crisis, a male character hugging a stuffed elephant feels more likely to be a punchline to me, not something poignant. (Even with Tim, Tim could have an embarrassing stuffed animal, but he couldn't hug it when sad - that's too far. Maybe Booster Gold might do this. Probably he wouldn't, but spiritually, he would. Sorry Booster ilu! <3)

Instead, Dick instinctively deals with his inner turmoil like the TORTURED ACTION HERO he is: by punching things and brooding and yelling and joining the mob and sleeping on rooftops and going on obsessive secret missions and acquiring Angsty Stubble!! Just like Batman!

(Technically I don't know if Bruce ever joined the mob but you know he would.)

Anyway as you know this is my favorite continuity and I am poking fun affectionately, but uh, yeah sdfsfdsfs. No stuffed animals.

Post-2011 / Infinite Frontier / Wayne Family Adventures: stuffed animals, yes or no?

tl;dr it's in WFA! Probably not anywhere else, but it could be.

Post-2011 stuff tends to be cutesier overall, most of all in the current Infinite Frontier era. So I don't feel like this would be tonally out-of-line with IF comics. Taylor tends to go for more meme-y references rather than fanfic references, though.

So the obvious best fit is WFA, which is aiming for a rough approximation of Silver Age family-friendly vibes - wholesome, episodic plots, Teaching Good Moral Lessons For The Youth, etc. - plus lots of Easter eggs for fanfic readers and some comic references.

And look, here we are:

Aww.

Whew - that's everything I could find!

Anyway as you can probably tell, I LOVE the elephant, so this was a very entertaining rabbit hole to go down, thank you <3

#dick grayson #anyone with more info feel free to chime in & we can crowdsource <3 #i do think the toy elephant is awfully cute though <3 #total digression but i was thinking about it as i was writing:#i'm fascinated by the ways that the post-crisis batboys & their stories can intersect with 90s masculinity and all its issues with stoicism #and i'm pro-queering and gender-bending - 90s comics were a total boys' club so i think it's neat that transformative fandom isn't #but i do love 90s masculinity and All Its Issues too & one of the things i find compelling about the dick-tim-bruce trio #& especially dick's place in it - is the unspoken hierarchy whereby bruce is manlier than dick & dick is manlier than tim #and so dick's in the middle as this somewhat softer-character who aspires to be a harsher & more stoic & ultimate manly-man character #caught in the middle between robin & batman & what each role represents #and like. batman is both manhood & the only desirable thing to be AND ALSO it represents this immense narrowing of possibility #because so much of stereotypical masculinity is about reducing the range of emotions you're allowed to have or express #and dick is both incredibly conflicted about bruce AND wants to be just like him & by extension is conflicted about masculinity writ large #so a lot of dick's interactions with tim veer between trying on a frat-boy-ish 'I'm The Manly Guy' persona vs. giving up on it #or trying on imitations of Bruce's Batman persona but also trying to backtrack out of it bc he doesn't like how it feels etc etc #ANYWAY i think what i am trying to say is that if tim had a stuffed animal dick would be entertained & poke mild fun at him #and call him 'teddy' for the next hour or something while tim got increasingly defensive about how the teddy bear was steph's #and/or about how the teddy bear was OLD and tim doesn't even care about it and also WHATEVEr i'm above this #and to an uninformed observer this might look like bullying BUT ACTUALLY #this ritual would IN FACT be very reassuring to both of them + tim would feel WAY better afterward than if dick had ignored it #because by poking fun at him dick shows he still respects tim enough to tease him thus subtextually exorcising the threat of wimpiness #plus allowing tim to defend himself & demonstrate that he can take a joke so they've both reaffirmed their masculinity to each other #& they don't have to be scared of the teddy bear and all it represents anymore #however also afterward dick would have a brief nostalgic flashback to when he was a kid & had a teddy bear & feel weird about the memory #because he would be unable to articulate to himself that what he misses is a past when he allowed himself to be vulnerable #anyway this wouldn't actually happen in comics but it's what would happen in my soul. you know.#ask tag #zitka

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We as a fandom don’t talk enough about how Game of Thrones decided to combine Jon Snow and Young Griff into one character and how that was absolutely ridiculous on like 1000 different levels. Because how do you combine two characters who are FOILS to one another and then play it completely straight?! Then to make matters worse they gave Jon the boy’s stupid name?! Goddamnit I knew they didn’t get Jon as a character pretty early on, but why mesh his arc with the one guy you shouldn’t combine with? 😭

#top 3 greatest got crimes I fear #talk about understanding neither character #like Aegon is there to serve as a foil to Jon and inform on a lot of the tropes grrm is deconstructing with Jon’s arc #you can’t make them the same character because you completely miss the whole point #also remember when they combined jon and stannis?#like people acknowledge that and are like yeah fine what ever but like….#am I the only one who also freaking HATES that?!?#because Jon and Stannis are anti-parallels you CANT DO THAT #without completely ruining Jon’s arc #like idc if it ruins stannis’ plot line but I care about Jon because he’s one of the central/main characters!!!#you can’t combine his story line with more minor characters who are meant to serve as foils to him #but what else can I expect from the themes are for eighth grade book reports brigade #jon snow #aegon vi targaryen #young griff #asoiaf #game of thrones

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do you have a favorite bit of motogp gossip that you either want to know is it’s true, or you just enjoy as a stand alone piece, no need for further investigation?

one of those where I initially stared at and like. lost all motogp knowledge in my brain. and then stuff did come back to me. this is all very much low hanging fruit and I'll add to it when I remember more interesting/quirky ones. BUT here are some things I want to know:

y'know how casey randomly suggests in his autobiography that valentino was sabotaged in the 2006 title decider? so, personally, I don't really buy this, because 'why' and also 'casey girl you are SO paranoid' - though, sure, if given the option I'd like to double check if valentino had a dud tyre (completely plausible) and also if somebody really deliberately gave him one (?? casey idk about this one). but what I'm REALLY curious about is... there's a change in his autobiography?? like I've seen this book excerpt float around online and the text is different from what's in my book!! mine's from the paperback version so I assume there may have been some edits for that, so that would make it the newer version... but like. this is a real editorial change. check this out:

version posted on the internet, from the hard cover edition???

version in my book, first paragraph is the same

But as soon as the lights went out Valentino was in trouble. I was one of six riders to pass him on the first lap and if you watch the footage you can see how much he is struggling to even keep up with us. His rear and front tyres were just not working together and on lap five the front inexplicably folded and he went down, right behind me. I couldn't help but wonder how he could be having such problems with his tyres. Could he really have been stitched up? It seemed so improbable, but I remember watching that race back in the motorhome that evening and thinking, Welcome to my world, mate.

this isn't 'gossip' because I haven't found anyone else who has spotted this, but like? that's a substantive change? if my one really is the newer one? ...?

let's set aside the fascinating insight you get into casey's knotty and at times bizarre valentino rossi complex with him adding the line "welcome to my world, mate" (oh my god. please just take him to dinner. I will crowd fund this I literally just need to be able to listen in. casey come on CALL him I NEED you to do the dinner thing, YOU suggested it not me). like we're not going to even touch that. but if my version really is the updated one, then he's kinda softened his stance, no?? "convinced he was stitched up" to "could he really have been stitched up"

what happened?? who wanted this change? casey? an editor? did dorna give casey a call? did some poor bloke from pr have to politely ask whether casey could please not state in his autobiography that the most popular rider ever had had a title stolen from him by the establishment?

(casey was talking about valentino's stolen tenth BEFORE it was popular. he did it even before valentino did, bless)

"there are a lot of commercial interests in the sport" also didn't make the jump to the 'new version', mind you. did Big America get to casey

come on you guys have to admit this is an odd change?? does nobody else thing this is weird??

okay fine moving on

Did Valentino Literally Curse Sete

(like. not literally as in did he curse curse sete, literally as in did he say it)

(though if he did literally literally curse curse sete, I suppose I'd also like to know that bit)

the commentators in 2003 brno say so and I'm inclined to believe them, but I need to double check whether sete and valentino really were partying on ibiza together right after that very painful valentino loss at the sachsenring. such a fascinating little detail, that's not something post-2004 valentino does I reckon

I mean, look, obviously a bunch of things from that time period I want to have fact checked. including valentino's friend hearing sete say in late 2003 that valentino wasn't going to be smiling so much after joining yamaha. classic bit of gossip, did it actually happen though

I've referenced this a few times before, but y'know how valentino said that marc's manager alzamora told him after sepang 2015 that marc had been angry at valentino for killing his title charge? I just want. to know. if this conversation actually happened. I don't think valentino would pluck a lie like that out of thin air, especially something so specific about somebody on marc's team, and he has known alzamora for decades but like. maybe almazora just said something valentino misinterpreted? I just find this such a bonkers thing from alzamora if it's true that I would like it confirmed for my own sanity, you know?

yeah look I would like to know if marc really did get casey kicked out of honda, obviously I've discussed this before and it's very he said she said but yeah it'd be fun to know the truth

this is literally peak gossip because I can't find a source for it but I swear a journalist did say it: the rumour is that marc blocked joan mir from joining honda in 2019. like, I'm only including this because I was explicitly asked for gossip as I just cannot find where it was said... but it is something that is. out there. and... again, just curious. like I buy it, but also it could be bullshit!

on a similar note, did he ever make clear to honda he didn't want either vinales or rinsy on his team circa 2016? was it just a vibe in the paddock or was this an actual demand from marc?

speaking of!! the whole thing about alzamora basically rigging the moto3 teammate situation between rinsy and alex marquez to ensure the latter won the title that year. what was that all about, how far did they go there

switching to valentino now. this doesn't quite fit the remit of the question because it IS something I've investigated. and my conclusion is basically a big *shrug*

did valentino block casey from joining yamaha in either 2005 or 2006, and did he attempt to block jorge?

there are completely contradictory sources on the timeline here that do make me feel like there's a chance yamaha was just fucking with casey at the very least in 2006 and valentino had fuck all to do with it, which a recent interview from casey did actually hint at too... he made it sound like maybe yamaha was just using him to try to drive down the price of another rider (which would then presumably be jorge)

I just want to know! and the thing is, it was a matter of open paddock discussion that valentino blocked casey (jorge explicitly references it in in 2007), but something doesn't quite add up between what jorge, casey, colin edwards, articles from the time and lin jarvis have said on the subject! my current pet theory is that valentino blocked casey in 2005 from joining the satellite yamaha team in 2006 (weirdly casey doesn't really imply valentino was responsible for this one in his autobiography, but whatever) but NOT in 2006 (casey does imply valentino was responsible here, you see my problem). and yamaha was fucking around with all four of valentino, casey, jorge and edwards in late 2006/2007. but. yeah. I have unanswered questions

the entire 'alex marquez blocked from yamaha' situation.... again. something is off there. you know the story from late last year about how he was blocked in 2019 from joining the petronas team in 2021? this completely threw me, because there was an entirely different story about this YEARS back in 2018!! I initially assumed the two stories were about the same event, but it can't have been! one's him being blocked in 2019 for 2021, one's him being blocked in 2018 for 2019

from the descriptions of both there's also no confusing them. the 2018 story has to be about the 2018 contract cycle because that's quite literally when it was published, and the 2023 story has to be about the 2019 contract cycle because it explicitly references the space fabio would create by moving to the factory team for 2021, which obviously wouldn't make sense before fabio's actual rookie season. like they have to be about different stories

and in that same 2018 story, marc said that back in 2016 lin jarvis told him no marquez would be joining yamaha:

again, this was in 2018!!

plus, he did say back in 2016 that he'd spoken to jarvis, which kinda backs up this is a conversation that did happen and marc isn't just misremembering the timeline/lying (the notion of marc joining yamaha in 2017 is fantastic, what an absolutely horrendous idea):

now what marc says in 2018 about his conversation with lin jarvis is very similar to petronas yamaha boss razali saying in 2023 that he'd been told by yamaha no marquez was allowed at yamaha. suggests that this is a thing that did happen!!

but again... razali was told that in 2019... after marc had already been told the same thing three years before that, and the exact same deal had already been blocked one year earlier... does nobody else think this is weird?? like, I'm not saying yamaha hq covered themselves in glory here, but is it not a little strange the satellite yamaha squad had basically almost signed a contract with the younger marquez again without checking in with yamaha, just ONE YEAR after this same contract had already been blocked???

again this isn't actually gossip because I'm apparently the only person going ?? about this but I'll say it: ??

kinda been annoying me since december last year, like I know it doesn't matter but I'm just curious about it! why's nobody else talking about the 2018 story!

idk my best guess here is that petronas yamaha was faffing about and playing weird games with the factory team, that the deal was never as likely to happen as they made it sound to the marquez camp. zero proof, that's me spreading rumours yeah... time to create some of my own unfounded gossip

(also of course I'm curious if valentino did have any actual involvement in this. like if lin jarvis was telling marc this in the year of our lord 2016, I'm assuming valentino didn't have to explicitly say to jarvis that 'inviting marc to the team for 2017' wasn't exactly high on his christmas wish list. it is interesting that marc frames it as jarvis making this about. like. all the marquez's way back in 2016, and again, would this really have been on valentino's radar at the time? that feels a bit...? alex marquez was thirteenth in that moto2 season? would certainly be very... thorough for valentino to already have had that particular talk with jarvis)

(mind u there's a fun moment in a 2019 presser where valentino is sitting between the two marquez brothers and the younger marquez is being asked about his contract situation, the implication being he'd had a motogp deal and no longer had a motogp deal. and he's answering and marc's doing his freak stare and valentino is Right There sitting between them... I <3 mess)

man did valentino actually ever fucking block anyone from joining his manufacturer #notmygoat. I still think he didn't know about jorge until the deal was basically done, had nothing to do with the younger marquez, at most blocked casey the one time but then yamaha wasn't actually seriously intending on signing casey in 2006 and was just using it as a play in their jorge negotiations, which.... idk. bit disappointing if true icl. I hope he blocked someone, I'll say it

(also. okay. I don't want to sound awful here because I do have a lot of sympathy for baby!casey but. ignoring the morality for a second, I do LOVE the idea that valentino blocked casey from getting a satellite yamaha seat fresh off his 250cc runner up season because it would conclusively prove valentino did ABSOLUTELY rate casey!! like he didn't even want casey to come close to being his teammate!! not even a sniff at his data!!) (genuinely this is the rumour I'm choosing to believe, I know there's a chance valentino didn't successfully block anyone and was just a complete flop but I want the 2005 one to be true. it really adds something to the rivalry idk... like ugh valentino saw how dangerous casey was proper early when much of the paddock wasn't yet convinced... cute)

moving on

there was a rumour in 2015 that valentino approached dani after aragon to complain about how sturdy his defence was, like moaning about denying him points and shit. now, there's exactly one article about this in marca that is the sole origin point for the rumour, and it says that valentino also interrupted a honda party after phillip island to complain to marc. this does not match up at all with anything either marc or valentino have said since then - and would mean you have to believe that marc wasn't actually blindsided by that presser... also feels a bit unlikely we would have heard NOTHING from any other source if vale was really gatecrashing a honda party

of course, neither dani nor valentino have spoken about this supposed post-aragon 2015 meeting either, not even when dani was kinda accusing valentino of hypocrisy during sepang 2015, but I suppose you could say maybe dani's just not the type of guy to bring it up again. however.... I do reckon occam's razor kinda applies here and if one of these stories is bullshit then they probably both are, plus it's not like marca is exactly a neutral source. still would love to be certain!! instinctively I don't really think that's valentino's style at all, but of course it'd be intriguing if the story were true because it'd be a sign of how 2015 kinda messed with him. but I still feel 2015 is more about him falling back on past tools he'd mostly discarded - rather than, like, acting wildly out of character, which again... well, this brings us back to how that kind of behaviour isn't really valentino's style. basically, I don't buy it, but that's kinda why I am so curious about it? because I feel like it would be really interesting and quirky if he had actually done that. does this make any sense

speaking of, again this doesn't really count because I did kinda investigate it last year.... but you know when valentino in that podcast referenced a conversation with marc around the time of sepang 2015, where marc stared blankly at him? I have a hunch about when that conversation happened, want to know if it's right. this also isn't really 'gossip' because this is a conversation I'm having with myself but

y'know when bez was injured on the ranch late-ish last year? a bunch of journalists pointed out how hush hush they were about what actually happened to bez - like they repeatedly drew attention to that because god knows THEY love some gossip lol. which probably means nothing, but I'm curious what the journalists' theory here is, like do they think it was an embarrassing injury?? OR. look. I suppose the conspiracy theory would be that pecco caused it (obviously accidentally!!) and everyone at the ranch knew it'd be a terrible look if they admitted that because of the whole title fight situation. call me casey stoner because those dots are not real and definitely have not been connected

okay, you know how there were rumours in the spanish tabloids bez said some real ugly stuff to marc at valencia last year, and bez didn't directly address it but freaked a little and did a sort of blanket denial that he'd said anything that bad? I don't actually think he did tbh, but again. would just like to check!

while we're already on bez, there was one report that the switch to aprilia was partly motivated by marc to factory ducati. again, not entirely sure I buy that this would factor into his thinking beyond the obvious 'this means the route to that factory ducati seat looks even more closed than it already did' angle'.... it's very much down my list of priorities but I'd quickly confirm/deny it if given the chance yeah

that's all for now lol

#these all feel INCREDIBLY boring but i'm stuck 2/3 of the way through a bunch of different asks and this was fast and fun so #anon i will return to this when i think of more interesting ones. my brain gave up on me. these are all so basic bleh #man i'm gonna miss lin i swear he was always up to some shit #i see u buddy. i know u were flat out lying to colin edwards for like. half a year. i see u #//#brr brr #batsplat responds #“welcome to my world mate” caseyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy #every day i wake up and think about Her (all the things casey wants to tell valentino but has never gotten the chance to)#like he canonically factually actually wants valentino to know what casey's pov on that rivalry was... doesn't that make you CRAZY #he doesn't want to interrogate valentino he wants to confess to him... he wants valentino to Understand... makes me ill #u know it's also like... because valentino literally has said Nothing substantive about that rivalry since mid 2013 #has casey like... noticed? I'm sure he doesn't WANT valentino to keep insulting him but idk it's kind of a bit. hm #like if you ARE looking for closure and YOU are still talking about it a lot but the other guy is just. Not. would that bother you?#idk!! maybe it really is completely a confessional impulse for him. casey constantly wanting to get his story out there #and not really caring what valentino contributes. that he's stopped contributing at all. orrrrr WOULD he like valentino to *respond*#does he want confirmation valentino is even seeing this stuff!! sending it out into the ether and waiting for the echo gahhhhh #what was this post about again #THE FUNDAMENTAL ALIENATION OF FEELING UNSEEN BY YOUR FOIL WHO SHOULD UNDERSTAND YOU BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE

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