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Walkerverse Character Tier List
Hello Walker Family! I'm here announcing the beginning of the Walkerverse Character Tier List series!
I've created a list of characters from Walker and Walker: Independence to put in a tier list ranking. I will be releasing a series of polls with all these characters (including pictures and brief reminders of their roles) to determine which Tier List ranking they get. Whichever option from S to F gets the most votes will become the official ranking of that character.
Here is the criteria I used to select the characters I'm putting in the poll series:
They must have a name on the imdb page
They must have a minimum of two appearances
I have to remember them, regardless of their appearance count
Single appearances that were special/memorable will also be included (ex: Uncle Willy, Minnie Jayne)
The rankings will be as follows:
S tier: Best character in the show, love them with all my heart, they can do literally nothing wrong
A tier: Beloved blorbo, one of my favorites, I'd want to be friends with them if they were real
B tier: I like them, but I have my critiques. A good character that I mostly enjoy
C tier: Mid character, not the biggest fan of them but I won't complain when they show up
D tier: I don't like them. I have many criticisms of their actions and personality. I may even dislike whole episodes because of them
F tier: Literally the worst character in the entire show. Hate them. Much dislike. I fastforward over them on rewatches.
I currently have pictures (for the poll and the complete tierlist that I will link when it is public) for 39 of the 120+ characters I put on the list, so that's where I will be starting. I will include the full list of all the characters from both shows below the cut along with the taglist.
The first poll will go up on Monday, September 23rd! Can't wait to see what you guys think!
@theladywyn, @jaredwalkertexasranger, @laf-outloud, @aborddelimpala, @mysterybeau, @sweet-sammy-kisses, @kickingitwithkirk, @rhl74, @peachparakeet, @dumb-fawkin-bitch, @loveforwomenstuff, @low-soduimfreak, @ihavepointysticks, @waywardmaslow, @arte-mishuntress, @the-slythering-raven, @deeranger, @duo-kun, @inafieldofdaisies, @not-your-housekeeper98, @nancymcl, @sammysnaughtygirl
Walker:
Cordell Walker
Liam Walker
Abeline Walker
Bonham Walker
Stella Walker
August Walker
Larry James
Trey Barnett
Geri Broussard
Cassie Perez
Micki Ramirez
Colton Davidson
Ben Perez
Dan Miller
Denise Davidson
Emily Walker
Todd
Gale Davidson
Stan Morrison
Clay Cooper
Clint West
Kelly James
Kevin Golden
Isabel Munoz
Bret
Trevor Strand
Ruby
Detective David Luna
Julia Johnson
Hoyt Rawlins
Twyla Jean
Sadie Yoo
Witt
Connie
Faye
DJ James
Keesha Barnett
Carlos Mendoza
Officer Randall
Dr. Adriana Ramirez
Sean
Serano
Earl
Mercedes Ruiz
Miles Vyas
Coach Bobby
Principal Heaney
Byron Santos
Garrison (GM)
Nate Smith
Tessa Graves
Crystal West
Cali
Rita
Lana Jones
Tommy Adams
Jaxon Davis
Grant McLawson
Neo
Mike
Horace
Alma Munoz
Fenton Cole
Shannon
Lorezno Munoz
Snyder
Oswald
Marv Davidson
Jim
Mr. Golden
Spider
William
Owen Campbell
Minnie Jayne
Maybelline
Mehar
Henry
Becca Furgeson
Joanna Rawlins
Cole Tillman
Rebecca Tillman
Walker: Independence:
Abigail Walker
Hoyt Rawlins
Kate Carver
Tom Davidson
Augustus
Calian
Kai
Lucia Reyes
Shane Davidson
Hagan
Chief Taza
Francis Reyes
Luis Reyes
Ruby
Nascha
Ethan (Pinkerton Detective)
Salty Dog
Molly Sullivan
Anna Maria Reyes
Cordell the Horse
Burlesque Dancers
Teresa Davidson
Matthew
Jacob
Otis Clay
Martha Sullivan
Griffin
Liam Collins
Eli McDowd
Charlotte “Charlie” Collins
Gil Santiago
Randall
Lily
Stella Rawlins
Wordell Calker
Olivia
Topsannah
Amos Acorn
Parker Briggs
Judge Parker
Kirby Smith
Andrew Jones
Judge Carter
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ctheathy · 1 year
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Communities
• = Platonic and/or Pet-like
• = Romantic
• = Suggestive
• = NSFW
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Vocaloid [+AUs from any song. Example: The Court Jester!Fukase] :
Hatsune Miku ,, Kagamine Rin ,, Kagamine Len ,, Luka Megurine ,, Meiko ,, Kaito ,, Gumi ,, Fukase ,, Utatane Piko ,, Flower ,, Oliver
The Evillious Chronicles [Daughter/Servant of Evil] AU:
Riliane ‘Rin’ Lucifen d'Autriche ,, Alexiel Lucifen d'Autriche // Allen ‘Len’ Avadonia ,, Kyle ‘Kaito’ Marlon ,, Michaela ‘Miku’ ,, Germaine ‘Meiko’ Avadonia
Baldi's Basics :
Baldi ,, Arts and Crafters ,, Playtime • ,, 1st Prize ,, It's a Bully ,, Principal of the Thing ,, Gotta Sweep ,, Cloudy Copter ,, Beans ,, Chalkles ,, Dr. Reflex ,, Mrs. Pomp ,, The Test ,, Null // filename2 ,, 0th Prize ,, PlaceFace ,, Bladder ,, Johnny
The Powerpuff Girls :
Monster Hunter Stories :
Villains:
Mojo Jojo ,, Brick ,, Boomer ,, Butch ,, Princess Morbucks ,, Fuzzy Lumpkins ,, The Amoeba Boys ,, The Gangreen Gang ,, Sedusa (+Ima GoodLady) ,, Rainbow the Clown//Mr. Mime ,, Abracadaver ,, The Sandman ,, The Gnome ,, Dick Hardly ,, Knock-off Powerpuff Girls ,, Him (+MIH) ,, Owlie Boop ,, Allegro ,, Chelsea ,, Sapna Nehru ,, Packrat ,, The Powerpunk Girls [Berserk, Brat and Brute] ,, The Rowdyright Boys [Blake, Bash and Breaker] ,, The RowdyRouge Girls [Bellicose, Bedlam and Bruiser]
Lute ,, Cheval ,, Lilia ,, Mille ,, Hyoro ,, Genie ,, Itsy-Bits ,, Dr. Manelger • ,, Debli ,, Avinia // Ayuria ,, Gale ,, Kayna ,, Ena ,, Alwin ,, Zellard ,, Reverto ,, Kyle ,, Yoomlana
South Park + Hellpark :
Corpse Party :
Stan Marsh ,, Kyle Broflovski ,, Craig Tucker ,, Clyde Donovan ,, Tweek Tweak ,, Thomas ,, Jacob Hallery ,, Cosette ,, Philip “Pip” Pirrip/Pirrup ,, Damien Thorn ,, Estella Havisham
Toilet-Bound Hanako-Kun :
Satoshi Mochida ,, Yuka Mochida • ,, Seiko Shinohara ,, Naomi Nakashima ,, Ayumi Shinozaki ,, Yoshiki Kishinuma ,, Mayu Suzumoto ,, Sakutaro Morishige ,, Yuuya Kizami ,, Naho Saenoki ,, Sachiko Shinozaki •
Hanako // Amane Yugi ,, Yashiro Nene ,, Kou Minamoto ,, Teru Minamoto ,, Mitsuba Sousuke ,, Aoi Akane ,, Akane Aoi ,, Sakura Nanamine ,, Natsuhiko Hyuga ,, Tsukasa Yugi ,, Tsuchigomori Ryūjirou
The Koopalings + DiC cartoons :
Larry Koopa + Cheatsy Koopa
Morton Jr. Koopa + Big Mouth Koopa
Ludwig Von Koopa + Kooky Von Koopa
Wendy O Koopa + Kootie Pie Koopa
Lemmy Koopa + Hip Koopa •
Care Bears + Movies :
Iggy Koopa + Hop Koopa •
Roy Koopa + Bully Koopa
The Care Bears • ,, Care Bear Cousins • ,, Auntie Freeze • ,, Professor Coldheart • ,, Frostbite ,, No Heart ,, Beastly ,, Shriekeline “Shreeky” No Heart
The Care Bears: Adventure in Wonderland
Alice ,, White Rabbit ,, Caterpillar ,, Cheshire Cat ,, Mad Hatter ,, Stan the Jabberwocky ,, Princess of Wonderland ,, The Wizard of Wonderland ,, Dim & Dum
Care Bears Movie II: A New Generation
Dark Heart ,, Christy ,, Dawn ,, John
Happy Tree Friends :
Cuddles ,, Giggles ,, Toothy ,, Lumpy ,, Petunia ,, Handy ,, Nutty ,, Sniffles ,, Pop ,, Cub • ,, Flaky ,,The Mole ,, Disco Bear ,, Russell ,, Lifty & Shifty ,, Mime ,, Cro Marmot ,, Flippy + Fliqpy ,, Ka Boom ,, Splendid ,, Splendon’t ,, Lammy ,, Mr. Pickles,, Truffles ,, FatKat
Chikn Nuggit :
Chikn Nuggit [+ Demigod form] ,, Cheezborger ‘Chee’ ,, Iscream ,, Slushi ,, Fwench Fwy ,, Sody Pop • ,, Sassparilla ,, Cofi ,, Hawt Saus ,, Bezel ,, Milkshek ,, Old Pea ,, Katsup and Meowstard • ,, Beta!Fwench Fwy ,, Beta!Slushi ,, Beta!Hawt Saus
Angry Birds :
Red ,, Chuck ,, Bomb ,, Matilda ,, The Blues ,, Jake, Jay, Jim • ,, Bubbles ,, Hal ,, Silver ,, Ice Bird ,, Terence ,, Corporal Pig ,, Foreman Pig ,, Chef Pig ,, King Pig ,, Prince Porky ,, Stella ,, Poppy ,, Luca • ,, Willow ,, Dahlia ,, Gale ,, Handsome Pig ,, Artist Pig
Littlest Pet Shop :
Zoe Trent ,, Russell Ferguson [+Cyril McFlip] ,, Minka Mark ,, Penny Ling ,, Vinnie Terrio ,, Sunil Nevla ,, Pepper Clark ,, Buttercream Sundae ,, Sugar Sprinkles ,, Mitzi ,, Shahrukh ,, Madame Pom ,, Delilah Barnsley ,, Scout Kerry ,, Sweet Cheeks ,, Cashmere Biskit ,, Velvet Biskit ,, Blythe Baxter,, Brittany Biskit,, Whittany Biskit
My Little Pony :
G1 AU: >>>
Twilight Sparkle ,, Rarity ,, Pinkie Pie ,, Apple Jack ,, Fluttershy ,, Rainbow Dash ,, Spike ,, Sunset Shimmer ,, Starlight Glimmer ,, Trixie Lulamoon ,, Moondancer ,, Coco Pommel ,, Coloratura ‘Rara’ ,, Maud Pie ,, Limestone Pie ,, Marble Pie ,, Flutterbat ,, Chimera ,, The Diamond Dogs [Rover, Fido, and Spot] ,, Discord ,, Lord Tirek ,, Flurry Heart • ,, Cozy Glow • ,, Snowdrop • ,, Nightmare Moon ,, Daybreaker ,, Queen Chrysalis ,, Unreformed Changelings ,, Thorax ,, Pharynx ,, King Sombra ,, Tantabus ,, The Sphinx ,, Pony of Shadows // Stygian ,, Grogar
Megan Williams ,, Spike • ,, Danny Williams ,, Molly Williams • ,, The Moochick ,, The Bushwoolies ,, The Grundles ,, Sludge ,, G'nash ,, Dinah • ,, Squire Alonzo ,, The Crabnasties ,, Mayor Camembert ,, The Sheriff of Muensterville ,, Pluma [+The Ghost of Paradise Estate] ,, Woebegone ,, Mayve • ,, His Elevated Eminence •
Applejack ,, Bow Tie ,, Ember • ,, Firefly ,, Glory ,, Medley ,, Moondancer ,, Twilight ,, Heart Throb ,, Lickety-Split ,, Posey ,, Gusty ,, Buttons ,, Fizzy ,, Ribbon ,, Galaxy ,, Mimic ,, Gingerbread ,, Magic Star ,, Shady ,, Cherries Jubilee ,, Cupcake ,, Truly ,, Sweet Stuff ,, Wind Whistler ,, North Star ,, Paradise ,, Surprise ,, Lofty ,, Locket ,, Whizzer ,, Masquerade ,, Princess Tiffany ,, Princess Primrose ,, Princess Royal Blue ,, Princess Serena ,, Princess Sparkle ,, Princess Starburst ,, Baby Lickety-Split • ,, Morning Glory ,, Rosedust ,, Honeysuckle ,, Peach Blossom ,, Lily ,, Forget-Me-Not
Scorpan ,, Tirac ,, Beezen ,, The Duchess ,, Knight Shade ,, Zeb ,, Erebus ,, King Charlatan ,, Niblick ,, Draggle ,, Reeka ,, Hydia • ,, Ahgg ,, The Smooze • ,, Squirk ,, Crank ,, The Flores ,, Jewel Wizard ,, Lavan [+crystallized form] ,, Sting ,, Queen Bumble ,, Princess Porcina ,, The Raptorians ,, Crunch the Rockdog ,, The Sqree ,, Somnambula ,, Kyrie ,, Bray ,, Grogar
Seito Kure ,, Boron Makuroshi ,, Toru Garakuta ,, Haruma Neko
Popee The Performer + Chinchikurin :
Popee Paraphone // Hanabishi Kuruwaya ,, Kedamono // Keita Ookami ,, Papi ,, Marifa ,, Eepop (mirror Popee) ,, Onomadek (mirror Kedamono) ,, Nightmare Popee ,, Docter Popee [Phaeton & Me]
The Amazing Digital Circus :
Pomni ,, Caine ,, Bubble • ,, Ragatha ,, Jax ,, Zooble ,, Gangle ,, Kinger ,, Gloink Queen • ,, Dr. Football ,, Moon ,, Sun ,, Paine ,, The Bone Pastor,, Princess Loolilalu ,, Gummigoo ,, The Fudge • ,, Chad ,, Max
Abstracted characters [Digital+abstracted form] :
Kaufmo ,, Queenie ,, Rett (yellow dog) ,, Wriggle (worm on a string) ,, Doz (purple dinosaur) ,, Blonk (pink cyclops) ,, Moppsy (mouse sockpuppet) ,, Yucko (yellow rabbit-like creature) ,, Bizz (polka-dot covered clown)
Fan-made names by Sunnie_Daies on Reddit
Lego Monkie Kid : ••••
MK ‘Monkie Kid’ ,, Mei Dragon ,, Tang ,, Pigsy ,, Sandy ,, Mo • ,, Red Son ,, Demon Bull King ,, Princess Iron Fan ,, Bull clones • ,, Lady Bone Demon (+disguise form) ,, ‘Bai He’ • [little girl] ,, Spider Queen ,, Huntsman ,, Goliath [strong spider] ,, Sun Wukong ‘Monkey King’ ,, Six-Eared Macaque ,, Syntax (+pre-corrupted/human form) ,, The Mayor (+Chief of War) ,, Yin & Jin ,, Guardians of Knowledge • ,, Lion Guardians • ,, Demon Accountant ,, Ne'Zha/Third Lotus prince ,, Erlang Shen ,, Scorpion Queen ,, Azure Lion ,, Peng ,, Yellowtusk ,, Chang'e ,, Tang Sanzang ,, Zhu Bajie ,, Sha Wujing ,, Ao Lie ,, Ao Guang/Dragon of the East ,, Master Subodhi ,, Dragon Attendant ,, Kui Mulang ,, MK [party clone] ,, MK [artist clone] ,, MK [delivery clone] (he won't be obese here...) ,, MK [backup clone] ,, Ink MK ,, Store Owner ,, Li Jing ,, Xiangliu ‘Nine-Headed Demon’ ,, 100-Eyed Demon ,, Nüwa
Ferdinand :
Ferdinand (+young form) ,, Paco ,, Nina • ,, Juan ,, Valiente (+young form) ,, Guapo (+young form) ,, Bones (+young form) ,, Lupe ,, Angus ,, Maquina ,, Una ,, Dos ,, Cuatro ,, Hans ,, Greta ,, Klaus ,, El Primero
Disney movies (will accept all characters of said movie) :
Cuz it's too many characters to write down damn it
19s — Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs ,, The Chronicles of Prydain ,, Bambi ,, Cinderella ,, Alice in Wonderland ,, 101 Dalmatians ,, Peter Pan ,, Sleeping Beauty ,, The Fox and the Hound ,, The Little Mermaid ,, Beauty and the Beast ,, Aladdin ,, Hercules ,, The Lion King ,, Pocahontas ,, The Rescuers Down Under ,, The Hunchback of Notre Dame [fuck Frollo up for me, will you dear? <3] ,, Mulan ,, Tarzan
2000s — The Emperor's New Groove ,, Monsters, Inc. ,, Finding Nemo ,, Pirates of the Caribbean ,, Brother Bear ,, The Incredibles ,, Howl's Moving Castle ,, Ratatouille ,, Up ,, The Princess and The Frog
2010s/2020s — Tangled ,, Frozen ,, Brave ,, Maleficent ,, Inside Out ,, Zootopia ,, Finding Dory ,, Moana/Vaiana ,, Coco ,, Raya and the Last Dragon ,, Luca ,, Encanto
Misc. :
- Reisuke Houjou • [Mirai Nikki // Future Diary]
- Rococo [Omori]
- Tobey McCallister [WordGirl]
- Dr. Sylvester Ashling [Epithet Erased]
- Ahmanet (+alive Ahmanet) ••• [The Mummy]
- The Lamb // Lambert [Cult of the Lamb]
- ENA (+ _____ form) [Joel G]
- Sun [Two Face ,, GH'S Animation]
- Blommy // Bloomy [Fluffffpillow's oc]
- Nabbit [Super Mario Bros]
- Marx (+Marx Soul) [Kirby Milky Way Wishes]
- Manga Marx [Kirby of the Stars! Moretsu Pupupu Hour!]
- Taranza [Kirby: Triple Deluxe]
- Scooby-Doo [Velma Meets the Original Velma]
- Evil [I Eat Pasta For Breakfast by Chibi-Works]
- Eloise Sarah Bellrose ‘Stripes’ [I Eat Pasta For Breakfast by Chibi-Works]
- Patchy the Pirate // Flying Dutchman [SpongeBob SquarePants | The Time Travelling Ghost Pirate Theory] •••
° Rio Ranger (+Rio Laizer)/Toto Noel •••• ,, Sei Satou ••• [Your Turn To Die]
° Monaca Towa ,, Nagisa Shingetsu ,, Jataro Kemuri ,, Masaru Daimon ,, Kotoko Utsugi [Danganronpa // Warriors of Hope]
° Isaac “Zack” Foster ,, Rachel Gardner ,, Edward “Eddie” Mason ,, Daniel “Danny” Dickens ,, Catherine “Cathy” Ward ,, Abraham Grey [Angels of Death // Satsuriku no Tenshi]
° Satou Matsuzaka ,, Shio Kōbe • ,, Asahi Kōbe ,, Taiyō Mitsuboshi ,, Sumire Miyazaki ,, Mitori Tajima ,, Shōko Hida ,, Satou’s aunt • [Happy Sugar Life]
° Eun Sian ,, Chae Yul •••• ,, Chae Yuri ,, Hyun Yujin ,, Min Hyunee [Secret Alliance]
° Aoi Mukou ,, Miyuki Sone ,, Haru [You and Me and He // Totono]
° The Angel •••• - The Demon •••• - The small Demon • [Avogado6]
° Justine Florbelle ,, Aloïs Racine (+pre-torture, +mid-torture) ,, Basile Giroux (+pre-torture, +mid-torture) ,, Malo de Vigny (+pre-torture +mid-torture) [Amnesia: Justine] ••••
° Rush ,, Hide ,, Seek ,, Eyes ,, Halt ,, Ambush ,, Screech • ,, Figure ,, Jack ,, Glitch [Roblox Doors]
° Sharko ,, Marina ,, Zig ,, Bernie ,, The Ghastly Ghost ,, Manic Mermaid ,, King Neptune [Zig & Sharko]
° Oh ,, Gratuity ‘Tip’ Tucci • ,, Pig • ,, Gorg ,, Kyle ,, Captain Smek ,, Boov [Home 2015]
° Pound (+Monstar form) ,, Bang (+Monstar form) ,, Nawt (+Monstar form) ,, Bupkus (+Monstar form) ,, Blanko (+Monstar form) [Space Jam // The Nerdlucks]
° Charmander ,, Squirtle (+Wartortle) ,, Bulbasaur ,, Leader Caterpie ,, Whiskers ,, Gastly • ,, Haunter ,, Flareon ,, Chimchar ,, Turtwig ,, Abomasnow [Starter Squad by Shippiddge]
° Kitsunami the Fennec [Sonic the Hedgehog]
- [Any Tails variant will do tbh] ➴
OG Miles ‘‘Tails” Prower • movie Tails • boom Tails • Anti-Miles • SH/TSAA Tails • (There's something about Knuckles) Tails • Blacksmith • (Tails’ Dark Diary) Tails • WWMH Miles • Nine • Mangey • Sails • Tails.EXE • starved Tails • Inner Tails • Ali Baba • Tailsop • Tails-Zilla • Tails Doll • Metal Tails • Luther • (Tails Gets Trolled) Tails • AOSTH Tails • Zails the Zone Cop • pinball/brainwashed Tails • Requital (The Sonic Oddities) • (Sonic Prime) Tails • (The Ankh) Hologram Tails/Hollow • (Operation Crimson) Tails • (Operation Crimson) Flor • Tails emo AU (Kayla Green)
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May add more in the future ...
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goalhofer · 2 years
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Famous 1922 births.
Bishop José De Jesús Sahagún De La Parra (Mexican Catholic bishop)
Albert Lamorisse (French movie director & producer)
Betty White Ludden (American actress)
Agathe Poschmann (German actress)
Joanne Dru Wood (American actress)
Daniel Macnee (British-American actor)
Haskell Wexler (American cinematographer & movie producer)
Audrey Meadows Six (American actress)
Kathryn Grayson (American actress & singer)
Archbishop Hilarion Capucci (Syrian Catholic archbishop)
Ralph H. Baer (German-American inventor & video game designer)
Cyd Charisse Morris (American actress & dancer)
Karl Kordesch (Austrian-American inventor)
Carl Reiner (American actor & director)
Russ Meyer (American movie director & producer)
Richard Kiley (American actor & singer)
Doris Day (American actress & singer)(pictured)
Josephine Cottle Masterson aka Gale Storm (American actress & singer)
Michael Ansara (Syrian-American actor)
Barbara Hale Katt (American actress)
Jack Klugman (American actor)
Roscoe Brown (American actor & director)
Darren McGavin (American actor)
Bea Arthur (American actress)
Sir Christopher Lee (British actor & singer)
Baroness Sheila Sim Attenborough (British actress)
Judy Garland DeVinko (American actress & singer)(pictured)
Eleanor Parker Hirsch (American actress)
Howie Schultz (American baseball & basketball player)
Jason Robards; Jr. (American sailor & actor)
Rory Calhoun (American actor)
Friar Jules Wieme (Belgian Catholic lay brother & missionary)
Margaret Middleton aka Yvonne De Carlo (Canadian-American actress)
Isaac Caesar (American actor & writer)
Jackie Cooper; Jr. (American actor & director)
Mervyn Hamilton (American movie director)
Janis Paige Gilbert (American actress & singer)
Cardinal Roger Etchegaray (French Catholic cardinal)
Noémi Ban (Hungarian-American holocaust survivor & lecturer)
Lizabeth Scott (American actress & singer)
Dr. St. Gianna Beretta Molla (Italian doctor & Catholic saint)
Fr. Luigi Giussani (Italian Catholic priest)
Coleen Gray Zeiser (American actress)
Ruby Dee Davis (American actress & poet)
Michel Galabru (French actor)
Iancu Țucărman (Romanian engineer & holocaust survivor)
Barbara Bel Geddes Lewis (American actress & artist)
Dorothy Dandridge (American actress & singer)
Kim Hunter Emmett (American actress)
Constance Ockelman aka Veronica Lake (American actress)
Stanford R. Ovshinsky (American engineer & inventor)
Charles M. Schulz (American cartoonist)
Redd Foxx (American comedian & actor)
Maila Syrjäniemi Mioni aka Maila Nurmi (American actress)
Paul Winchell (American actor & ventriloquist)
Ava Gardner (American actress)
Stan Lee (American comic book writer & editor)(pictured)
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pinkfey · 1 year
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Tell me if I’m a little spicy for this, but as someone who relates hard to Astarion I hate to see his feelings toward sex treated as a purity fetish. I means, in Act 3 the sex scene fades to black; the highlight is his love for Tav, not sex, and since he’s having sex on his own terms, not to seduce, its not in the spotlight. Fandom is either like, “erm, that wasn’t hot enough” or, “awwwwww 🥹 its like he’s a virgin”. Gross! I just hate it!
so i haven’t seen anyone saying what ur saying irt him being virginal?? but if that’s true,,,, yeah gross !! also please don’t send me examples i don’t want to see it
i’m with ur general vibe though anon. astarion’s sexual trauma is the closest representation i’ve ever personally identified with in almost any media and though i do know at the end of the day ppl are gonna do what ppl do with fictional characters and it rlly doesn’t affect me it does give me an icky feeling to see and know it’s so easily dismissed
but in a fan culture permeated by dr*gon age stans 🥴 i can’t say i’m surprised that the trauma of male victims like gale and astarion is fetishized, disregarded, or outright denied.
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pennzance · 11 months
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Ghostbusters: Port Huron (Episode 29)
Episode 29: The Wendigo
November 5th, 1998
From a distance, the explosion was almost beautiful. Colors defying description pouring into the night sky, streaks of light splitting off and careening on impossible, unknowable trajectories and tracing a grand pattern in the air that would haunt the sleep of any who might witness it. The reality…
Eric shielded his eyes as the maelstrom of screaming souls washed over him. He didn’t know where Amber was of if she was even still alive. She’d been almost right under the grid when it fell. Remy, next to him, shouted something but Eric’s own frostbitten ears couldn’t pick the words or sound out among the chaos swirling around them.
He tried to turn his back for more cover and saw the swirling vortex of previously contained psychokinetic energy get sucked into the space under the Bluewater Bridges. The air there, already strange to look at, seemed to collapse inward, leaving behind a black void that devoured all the light around it.
The gate was open.
And then the real storm hit. Winds, swift and ripping in the cold, blew past him, nearly knocking him off his feet. He and Remy grabbed each other to steady themselves, and then they noticed the snow. Huge, wet flakes of snow blew past them, sticking to the sides of nearby vehicles and concrete barriers, the street around them, the grass in the green areas of the boardwalk, the lamp posts and electrical poles.
On the north side of the bridge, nothing was better. Bryan was braced against the Ecto-908, trying to shield his face from the wind while also trying to keep an eye on the figure in the snow. Stanley’s possessed form was strolling up to the bridge as if there wasn’t a gale-force hurricane/blizzard going on right in his face. He raised his hand, the talisman clutched within, and then… well, he collapsed, but he also rose into the air. Bryan tried to understand what was happening, but Stanley’s body started to blow toward him, and Filch’s ghost continued to rise.
The Bluewater Bridges, like other large bridges, don’t simply go from shore to shore. Access to the bridge is carefully controlled by customs and the border patrol and the on and off-ramps for the bridges themselves are nearly half a mile away from the actual water. Because of this, a minor street and the boardwalk itself have plenty of room to pass under the bridges, and there’s even a small parking lot and an office access door built into the underside of the bridge for customs employees to get to work without having to fight highway traffic.
So the distance from Bryan to the actual surface of the Bluewater Bridges was about fifty feet on the ground, but about sixty feet into the air, and Filch’s spirit was currently ascending that sixty feet while Stanley’s limp form was rolling and gathering snow on the flatter fifty feet. Bryan tried to hit the apparition with his Proton Pack, but the shot went very wide and only succeeded in leaving a scorch mark on a concrete support pillar.
“Dammit,” Bryan growled, moving forward to grab Stanley Richardson’s tweed-suited and rapidly freezing body. Whatever was happening now was going to happen, like it or not. He dragged Stan back to the Ecto-908 and got him inside to at least get him out of the wind as Dr. Stantz’s rental car pulled up.
Jeremy, a large bruise on the side of his face, got out first. “I take it this is not going well?” he shouted over the wind.
“Pretty badly, actually,” Bryan shouted back, but in a conversational tone. There wasn’t much point in panicked shouting right now.
Dr. Stantz stepped out as well, with Microwave close behind. Under other circumstances, seeing one of the original Ghostbusters in full gear and ready to go would have been a cool moment, but right now it was just another sign of how apocalyptically screwed the world probably was. “Where’s Filch?” Ray asked.
Bryan gestured vaguely upwards. The blizzard was slowly strangling their visibility and the wind was brutal to exposed skin, so it was mostly a guess. Ray squinted upward. “What about the others? Where’s the rest of the team?”
“I’m here!” came a voice. Kelly stood up from the other side of the Ecto-908. “This shit is crazy!”
“It’s about to get worse,” Bryan told her. “Have you been there the whole time?”
She nodded and shrugged as another figure struggled up out of the storm. “This is a bad sign, isn’t it?” Jason asked, his face red from the wind and from running here against the wind.
“Where’s Eric and Amber?” Jeremy asked him, and Jason shrugged as best he could. “In all this? How am I supposed to know?”
“Radio!” Bryan remembered. He grabbed his off of his belt and tried it. “Anyone else alive out there?”
There was a brief, tense pause as the storm continued and then Eric’s voice came back, barely audible. “I’m still kicking. Remy’s here too. No clue where Amber is, but she was at ground zero when the grid blew.”
“Can you try to-“
“LOOK!” Kelly shouted, pointing up.
A dark, gangly shape descended from the bridge, crawling down the same scorched pillar. It was covered in long hair that blew in the wind, and blood red eyes that were locked on the gathered Ghostbusters.
“Ithaqua?” Jeremy asked.
Bryan shook his head. “Filch.”
The thing hissed and leaped down, landing heavily and standing up straight. It was almost nine feet tall and towered over them. “Clever little creatures,” it said. Even after everything, it was the scar on the side of its face that gave it away. Those who walked with Ithaqua on the wind were returned as Wendigos, so the stories went. Filch was now a monster. “I’m so… hungry,” Filch said with a nasty smile. “Who shall I feed on first?”
“EAT THIS!” Kelly shouted, firing her Proton Pack and catching the Wendigo in the chest. Jason and Bryan followed suit, pitching the monster backwards as it screeched in pain. It tried to stand as the beams were turned off to prevent Pack overheat, but Microwave, Jeremy and Dr. Stantz stepped in without missing a beat to renew the assault. Filch screamed in audible agony and ran into the storm, disappearing into the snow.
“Kelly?” Bryan said as the wind began to die down.
“Yeah?”
“Good one-liner.”
“We can’t let him get away,” Dr. Stantz said.
“I’m on it,” Jeremy nodded, and Bryan followed him as they ran into the blizzard. Ray and Microwave went back to the rental car and popped open the trunk.
“What’s the plan?” Kelly asked.
Ray slapped a hand on the thing in the trunk and didn’t notice Microwave wince as he did so. “Help us with this.”
On the other side of the bridges, Eric and Remy had made their way out to the flatbed truck, now tipped on its side. “AMBER!” Eric shouted. The blizzard was thick, but the wind wasn’t as intense now. He heard a muffled sound in response, and he and Remy ran toward it.
“Amber?” Remy tried, approaching the sideways flatbed. Eric grabbed his shoulder and pointed. In the growing pile of snow were the soft red lights of the back end of a Proton Pack, jammed under the flatbed itself. “Let’s get this off her!” Remy cried, running forward.
The two men heaved as hard as they could, and Amber wiggled out from under the wreckage. Her face was a mess of scrapes from the concrete and blood as soaking into her coat, but she stood up with their help. “It was a good plan,” Eric told her.
“It was a shitty plan,” Amber growled, spitting blood into the snow. “But it’s what I could think of.”
“Let’s get you some medical attention,” Remy said, offering her an arm to help carry her.
Amber pushed him away. “I’m just going to sit down for a second and get air back in my lungs,” she managed with some effort. “Go find a medic.”
Remy nodded and vanished into the snow. Eric checked her over to make sure she wasn’t bleeding from anywhere else and got her to painfully cough a few times. She had some cracked ribs, but she wasn’t about to die. Eric was so focused on her that he didn’t notice the shape in the snow, but Amber did.
“What the hell is that thing?” she asked, pointing. Eric followed her outstretched finger and saw the dark and gangly form in the snow, smoke wisping off of it as it approached them with a predatory gait.
“Ah… fresh meat…” it hissed, its voice just as pained as Amber’s.
“Oh, to hell with that!” Eric growled, standing up. The Wendigo lunged, but Eric’s trigger finger was faster. At almost point-blank range it would have been impossible to miss the monster Filch had become, and the proton stream stopped the beast in midair and threw it backwards across the snowy pavement.
Pain and frustration colored the unholy noise Filch made as he scrabbled to his clawed feet, and he ducked to the side of the next blast and closed the distance with terrifying speed. Eric took one of those large hands in the chest and was pitched away as Filch approached, lunging for Amber with drool-drenched jaws and ugly, deadly teeth. He bit down-
-on the end of Amber’s neutrona wand. “FUCK OFF!” she shouted, and Filch’s skull lit up from the inside, his red eyes boiling, his scar splitting apart, and his hair combusting from the roots and his head, quite literally, exploded.
Eric got to his feet and saw what was left of the Wendigo slump to one side. Amber flopped backwards uncomfortably on her Proton Pack. “Oh my GOD, that was disgusting.”
“Um, yeah, you’ve got some… um…” Eric motioned to her just about everything, and she coughed twice before laughing weakly. “That was pretty brutal.”
“Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving person,” Bryan said as he and Jeremy approached. “Amber, you just killed Amadeus Filch.”
“Yay me,” she managed as she tried to sit up again. Jeremy helped her up and offered her a handful of snow to clean up with.
“THAT was Filch?” Eric asked. “What happened?”
“He rode on the wind,” Bryan shrugged. To the incredulous looks from the others, he threw up his hands. “Look, I don’t know what the hell is going on right now, it’s all pretty screwed up. We still have an open gate and an Old One about to come through it, so grit your teeth and let’s get moving.”
The wind had calmed now, and the four of them turned toward the bridges. Even in this thick blizzard, their form loomed over them like blackened monuments, but there was another shape too. A very, very large shape.
Bryan’s radio came to life, startling all four of them. “Bryan, come in.”
“Mr. Kaye?”
“I’m with Dr. Stantz right now. We have a way to close the gate, but we need you on the south side to distract Ithaqua.”
“DISTRACT?” Amber shouted, still riding a little bit of an adrenaline high from blowing a man’s mind a few seconds ago.
“Dr. Stantz has informed me that Ithaqua does not like heat. Your Proton Packs will certainly draw his attention. We need you to get him away from the Gate so we can use this… stream crossing bomb to full effect. Do you understand?”
The four of them looked at each other. Battered, weary, but unbeaten, they nodded. “Yes sir. Count on us,” Eric said into Bryan’s offered radio.
“I always do,” Mr. Kaye replied.
Bryan put the radio away. “Okay then,” he said, putting a hand in the middle. “All together?”
“Let’s go kick his ass,” Eric nodded putting a gloved hand on top of Bryan’s.
Jeremy nodded and added his hand as well. “I… tolerate you guys better than most people. Let’s not die.”
Amber put her hand on top. “I want to go to bed.”
Bryan shrugged. Not the most inspiring words to go off to battle with, but it would do. “Break!”
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✏✏ Frozen 2 Manga: Strengths and Weaknesses (Review) ✏✏
🌟🌕🌟I would give the Frozen 2 Manga a 9.2/10!!! (But this score is very very subjective for reasons I will explain now)🌟🌕🌟
You can purchase an online copy of the F2 Manga HERE for $10.99 (It's important to support artist so GO BUY THE BOOK)
Strengths:
+ Art (obviously ♡): Each page and every picture is hyper-detailed and gorgeous. Every scene stays true to the original, but takes creative liberties to give us new angles, interpretations, and expression which makes the book a truly unique experience. I would highly recommend buying this book, solely for art quality alone because it really is that good. Some scenes take up the full page, and are so beautiful that they could genuinely be movie posters, it's that amazing.
+ Songs: For relatively obvious reasons (songs being repetitive, translation problems, page space and time), the manga couldn't re-write each Frozen 2 song word-for-word. So instead they chose to re-write everything into a type of poetic, internal dialogue. I actually like this a lot, and consider it a strength because it gives us a deeper understanding into how the characters feel and what exactly they want/think. Example:
"In this limitless moment, the things that remain constant are precious. This happiness is what we all wish for. This nurtures love." - Some Things Never Change
"I must not be too curious... I cannot risk disturbing the happiness I've finally found." - Into The Unknown
I especially loves these two lines because I think it nicely emphasizes and centers Elsa's empathy with her family, desire to keep them safe, and shows that she cares about their happiness, just like her own.
+ Internal Dialogue: Its few and far between, but the manga adds bits of Elsa's internal dialogue here and there, which really emphasizes/clarifies her feelings, which I really like. Ex: It clearly shows that Elsa is afraid of worrying Anna about the mysterious voice (right before the 2nd lullaby).
+ Retelling of Frozen (2013) by Olaf: This is where the manga took the most creative liberties and it really shines through because the scenes is a lot more funny and creative! There are costume changes and a lot more sparkle and glitter and exaggeration!
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Weaknesses:
+ Neglects several character arcs: A lot of small scenes were removed, so much so that the book completely removes several character's arcs/sevral character's most memorable moments.
This is the biggest drawback of the manga (especially bad for Anna) and is definitely a valid dealbreaker for fans who are/were invested in the non-Elsa characters. One thing I've noticed from fans and non-fans alike, is that people LOVED Anna and deeply resonated with her. People adored her "Next Right Thing" moment, and genuinely resonated with her loss and concerns. But despite her main character role and her beloved status among fans, she is the one who loses most of her character scenes. Because of these scene omissions, her motivations aren't set up and her concerns are downplayed and it's truly a shame.
Just for Anna, they remove:
Anna's conversation with Olaf about change, "fear of nothing being permanent", and "Anna not being scared because she has her family" (in the pumpkin patch).
In the song "Some Things Never Change", Anna, Olaf, and Kristoff parts are removed, so you can only hear the thoughts and feelings of Elsa.
The second half of Anna and Elsa's fight, where Elsa tells Anna she can't come with her to Ahtohallan is gone. So there is no scene of Anna begging to stay and telling Elsa "I just don't want you dying, trying to be everything for everyone else too. Don't do this alone. Let me help you, please."
Anna's desperation to protect Elsa in some scenes is definitely downplayed. Ex: "THAT'S MY SISTER!" scene at the fight with angry gale is gone + Anna running away panicked from Kristoff's 3rd proposal (when she realizes she doesn't know where Elsa is).
The ending half of "The Next Right Thing" is extremely limited, and neglects the original's emphasis on perseverance through the pain, despite feeling lost.  The whole scene is surprisingly short as well, with Anna going through the motions very quickly (unlike the movie, which really dwelled in her pain).
- Kristoff:
In the manga, there is no hint at all that he doubts his relationship with Anna, so that full arc is gone.
His part in 'Some Things Never Change' is gone.
His third proposal attempt (at the dam) is removed
"Lost In The Woods" song / "Reindeers are better Than People" talk with Sven is gone.
Olaf:
His talk with Anna about being scared of change is gone (in the pumpkin patch).
Again, his part in 'Some Things Never Change' is gone.
Olaf's song "When I'm Older" is gone (Which detailed his fear of change and hope that everything will get better).
Olaf and Anna's bonding moment (after Elsa rejects them), where Anna says "you have every right to be angry" is gone/downplayed.
Mattias:
Mattias and Anna's "Next Right Thing" talk is gone.
He never ask Anna about Halima, he never reunites with Halima in Arendelle, and there is no photograph joke.
Ryder:
All three of Ryder's scenes with Kristoff are removed, aka "Some of us have never seen a clear sky", "the Northuldra know the best way to propose!", and the scene where both Kristoff and Ryder talk to reindeer.
This was most definitely because Ryder's character was tied to Kristoff's marriage insecurities, but they decided to remove that element from Kristoff wholesale, so Ryder had nothing.
Honeymaren & Yelena:
During the campfire scene, Elsa and Honeymaren don't sing the small piece of "All Is Found", don't make the joke about lullabies being creepy, and they don't pet the baby reindeer.
There is no scene of Elsa reuniting with Yelena and Honeymaren, telling them "Ahtohallan is beautiful". Honeymaren never ask Elsa to stay in the Enchanted Forest either.
Now don't get me wrong! These characters still have really beautiful art and are present. They have chibis and expressive faces/designs and are a pleasure to look at. They have their own unique scenes and matter and help the story move along, they just take a step down from their original film adaptation.
[I know the list for Anna was really long, but she is still all over the manga acting cute and relatable. I swear. The book is 160 pages long, there is plenty to marvel at.]
+ Whitewashing the Northuldra: The Northuldra are indeed whitewashed (completely white skin on par with Elsa & Anna) and it's very bad. I genuinely don't know why they chose to do this considering Mattias had ALL his melanin. There is not much to say about it, but it is uncomfortable to look at and is a very valid critique on the artist.
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Conclusion / TL;DR:
If you are interested in art/love Frozen 2 fanart, this book definitely delivers on that artistic level. If you just want a pretty and easy retelling, then this book is for you! But if you were especially connected to the roles of Anna and the more minor characters, to the point where their absence might off put you, you may want to sit this one out. I would offer you pretend this book is just elaborate fanart by a huge Elsa stan (so you don't take the absences to heart so much), but the choice is yours.
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kahit saan talaga, may makikita kang toxic ‘no? for almost 3 hours, nanood ako ng live stream ng baeksang arts award sa vlive. kahit walang subtitle, for the love of kdramas talaga kaya pinanood ko hahahahaha kahit hindi naman nanalo si jeon mido as best new actress, deserve naman ni kim dami. saka ni ahn hyo seop as best new actor. ang annoying lang talaga ng ibang fans, walang respect AMP haha mahal ko din naman si hyun bin at yejin, hello i stan riri couple kaya. pero di nila magets na may better na kdrama and actors than hyun bin and ye jin. puro sila cloy cloy cloy sa comments, and saying na rigged daw winners ng baeksang. sarap sasampalin hahahahaha try watching other kdrama para naman maging aware sila na hindi lang yung drama na ‘yon ang deserving manalo. kahit alam ko namang si dr ji sun woo (kim hee ae) ng the world of married couple ang mananalo as best actress, i am still rooting for gong hyo jin!!! her acting were on point sa when the camellia blooms, saka si iu!!! ang galing nya rin sa hotel del luna, same with yejin sa crash landing on you. pero hirap kalaban ng ayuda kwin aka dr jin sun woo hahahahahaha. pati na rin sa best actor!! grabe super deserve talaga ni kang haneul!!!!!! ang galing nya sa when the camellia blooms huhu medyo nanghinayang lang din ako for park seo joon kasi ang husay nya din sa itaewon class saka ni hyun bin sa cloy. kaya lang, si haneul talaga ang nangibabaw. super deserve and proud din ako sa when the camellia blooms kasi sila ang nag-daesang for tv series HUHUHU ang husay??? grabe. kaya lang ang dami talagang toxic don sa vlive na yon, hindi matanggap na may mas magaling/maganda sa kdrama o actors na gusto nila. asar.
ayon ang daldal ko pero gusto ko lang naman sabihin na we should respect the winners, hindi naman sila iko-consider as winners if hindi sila magaling diba? saka recommend ko na lang din na panoorin nyo ang when the camellia blooms. hindi kayo magsisisi, i swear. yun lang kthnx for reading dis mwa <3
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THE WONDER SHOW
 1938-1939
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“The Wonder Show” radio program was so named because it was sponsored by Wonder Bread, which at the time was made by Continental Baking Company, who also made Hostess Cakes.  Wonder Bread is a brand of bread which originated in the United States in 1921 and was one of the first to be sold pre-sliced nationwide in 1930. This led to the popular phrase "the greatest thing since sliced bread". The brand is currently owned by Flowers Foods in the United States. 
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Before becoming “The Wonder Show” it was previously known as “Log Cabin Jamboree”, sponsored by Log Cabin Syrup. Like “The Wonder Show” “Log Cabin Jamboree” was helmed by Jack Haley, but without his ‘wonder woman’ Lucille Ball and ‘Wonderful’ announcer Gale Gordon.  
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It began broadcasting on Friday, October 14, 1938, at 7:30pm and aired its final broadcast on April 7, 1939. 
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It was hosted by Jack Haley, best remembered as the Tin Man in the The Wizard of Oz. Two weeks after “The Wonder Show” went on the air, Fox told Haley they were loaning him out to MGM, who needed a last-minute replacement for Buddy Ebsen in The Wizard of Oz. Ebsen, originally cast as the Tin Man, had been hospitalized with an allergic reaction to the aluminum-based make-up, and Metro was forced to replace him. For the next several months, Haley found himself filming an epic MGM fantasy musical by day, and working with his radio writers by night. He finished his scenes in the film in mid-January 1939 and celebrated by incorporating a Wizard of Oz sketch into the January 20th episode (#15) of “The Wonder Show.” 
"That was quite a winter. By the time we did the show Friday night, I was physically exhausted. Emotionally, however, I was very satisfied. I loved doing that radio show."
Regular cast included singer Virginia Verrill (above with Haley and Lucy), Lucille Ball, comedian Artie Auerbach, and Ted Fio Rita and His Orchestra. Gale Gordon was the announcer. While many believed that Gordon and Ball’s association only went back as far as 1948, “The Wonder Show” deepens that relationship by a decade.   
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Lucy spent much of 1937-38 radio season as a regular on Phil Baker's “Gulf Headliner” series on CBS. Lucy reportedly enjoyed doing "The Wonder Show”. She credited it, along with her other early radio appearances, for helping her with her acting career. 
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"[Radio] gave me a name in the trade as a good feminine foil. I could flip a comedy line, which a lot of actresses couldn't do. In radio I couldn't depend upon props or costumes or makeup; I had to rely on timing and tone of voice for comic effects, and this was invaluable training." 
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At the time Gordon was 32 years old, recently married and had just starting to grow his trademark mustache. He was in such demand that he often did two or more radio shows in a day. 
"Luckily, the studios were nestled along Sunset Boulevard or in a nearby theater, so we could shuttle rather quickly back and forth from one broadcast to another."
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During the first episode of “The Wonder Show”, Haley spoke briefly about his current movie release, Alexander's Ragtime Band, starring Tyrone Power, Alice Faye, Don Ameche, and Ethel Merman. He also mentioned Lucy's RKO films Room Service, The Affairs of Annabel, and Having Wonderful Time. 
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Other weekly guests included Dizzy Dean, Joan Bennett, Reginald Gardiner, and Oliver Hardy.   
EPISODES 
Episode #1 - October 14, 1938 - “Pepe Sacola Haley, Jewel Thief” [Premiere; introduces a series of weekly Haley Family Album sketches] 
Episode #2 - October 21, 1938 - “Pony Bill Haley” [A forum entitled "Should a woman have a career?" Lucille Ball explored this theme on “I Love Lucy” in “Job Switching.”]
Episode #3 - October 28, 1938 - “Little Lord Fauntleroy Haley" [pre-empted in some areas for an address by President Roosevelt]
Episode #4 - November 4, 1938 - “Gaucho Haley”
Episode #5 - November 11, 1938 - “Julius Caesar Haley”
Episode #6 - November 18, 1938 - “Elephant Boy Haley”
Episode #7 - November 25, 1938 - “Sergeant O'Haley of the Northwest Mounted Police”
Episode #8 - December 2, 1938 - “The Hatfields and The McHaleys”
Episode #9 - December 9, 1938 - “Super Detective 'Wonder' Haley - The Secrets of the French Police or Where Did They Get Those Post Cards?”
Episode #10 - December 16, 1938 - “Colonel Jack Haley and Sea Cookie”
Episode #11 - December 23, 1938 - “Super Sleuth 'Wonder' Haley - Murder in the Sweater Department or Much Ado About Knitting” [The subtitle “Much Ado About Knitting” was later used on “I Love Lucy” in “Lucy Writes A Play”] 
Episode #12 - December 30, 1938 - “Francois Villon Haley, The Pugnacious Poet of Paris”
Episode #13 - January 6, 1939 - “Captain Haley of the Marines”
Episode #14 - January 13, 1939 - “Haunted House” [Friday the 13th]
Episode #15 - January 20, 1939 - “Jack Haley the Clown: The Murder of the Bearded Lady”
Episode #16 - January 27, 1939 - “Jesse James Haley”
Episode #17 - February 3, 1939 - “The Czar of Russia” 
Episode #18 - February 10, 1939 - “Gone With the American Revolution” [Lind Hayes, impersonator, imitates the voices of Lionel Barrymore, Gary Cooper, Fred Allen and others.]
Episode #19 - February 17, 1939 [Lucille Ball introduces a new character; Jack Haley's tough, sassy little niece, a sort of "Dead End Girl".]  
Episode #20 - February 24, 1939 - “The Amazing Dr Jitterbug or A Scar Is Born” [A hunting lodge-themed episode]
Episode #21 - March 3, 1939 -  “The Amazing Dr Jitterbug or A Scar Is Born” [Chicago Cubs baseball player Dizzy Dean guest stars]
Episode #22 - March 10, 1939 - [Actress Joan Bennett guest stars]
Episode #23 - March 17, 1939 - [Comedian Hugh Herbert guest stars]
Episode #24 - March 24, 1939 - “Paul Revere Haley” [Actor Reginald Gardiner guest stars; Lucille Ball later played Mrs. Paul Revere on “The Jack Benny Program” in 1964.]
Episode #25 - March 31, 1939 -“On the Trail of the Lonesome Crime” [Oliver Hardy guest stars. On a 1966 episode of “The Lucy Show” Gale Gordon - as Mr. Mooney - was hypnotized into being Oliver Hardy to Lucy’s Stan Laurel.]
Episode #26 - April 7, 1939 - “Local Boy Makes Good” [series finale]
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On March 29, 1938, Ed Sullivan’s newspaper column announced that Artie Auerbach would be marrying young actress Cleo Manning (later Cleo Morgan then Smith). Manning made her screen debut being kissed by Clark Gable in the 1941 film Honky Tonk. Cleo Manning's cousin, Lucille Ball, interceded in the marriage, because Manning was not of age. They were at the license bureau when Ball persuaded them to wait. Auerbach and Manning were married at a later date. Cleo was producer of “Here’s Lucy” and “Lucy in London”. 
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Also in 1938, Lucy’s friend and fellow film actress Ann Sothern was also promoting Wonder Bread. Sothern was appearing in a Wonder Bread-sponsored radio show titled “Pretty Kitty Kelly” on CBS. 
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After “The Wonder Show” finished on April 7, 1939, Lucy was still cranking out films doing more than 25 screen appearances before being cast as Liz Cooper in radio’s “My Favorite Husband” (also starring Gale Gordon), the series that led to “I Love Lucy” and her place in television history. Although she initially wanted to take Gordon with her to television as a regular, his schedule and salary demands made it impossible so William Frawley was cast instead. Although he made several guest appearances on Ball’s shows, it wasn’t until 1963 that the two became a team again.  
[The author is indebted to The Digital Deli Too for their “Wonder Show” web page as well as Thomas J. Watson’s Lucy Fan webpage about “The Wonder Show.”]
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September has a bumper crop of fantastic releases!
September 3
Akin - Emma Donoghue
All Things Consoled - Elizabeth Hay
Boy-Crazy Stacy - Gale Galligan and Ann M Martin
Bruce's Big Storm - Ryan T Higgins
Chinese Whispers - Peter May
A Delhi Obsession - M G Vassanji
The Difference - Marina Endicott
Dr. Seuss's Horse Museum - Dr Seuss
Good and Mad - Rebecca Traister
Guinness World Records 2020
Gun Island - Amitav Ghosh
How To - Randall Munroe
The Long Call - Ann Cleeves
Machine Without Horses - Helen Humphreys
The Nobody People - Bob Proehl
Nothing Ventured - Jeffrey Archer
Quichotte - Salman Rushdie
The Secrets We Kept - Lara Prescott
There Has to Be a Knife - Adnan Khan
Tunnel of Bones - Victoria Schwab
Vendetta in Death - J D Robb
Women Talking - Miriam Toews
September 10
The Education of an Idealist - Samantha Power
Identity - Francis Fukuyama
The Institute - Stephen King
Just Because - Mac Barnett
The Nanny - Gilly Macmillan
Red Moon - Kim Stanley Robinson
The Ten Thousand Doors of January - Alix E Harrow
The Testaments - Margaret Atwood
The Ticking Heart - Andrew Kaufman
The Truth About Magic - Atticus
September 13
Whose Story Is This? - Rebecca Solnit
September 17
Coventry - Rachel Cusk
Drag - Simon Doonan
Elevator Pitch - Linwood Barclay
The Fate of Fausto - Oliver Jeffers
Flight of the Highlanders - Ken McGoogan
Guts - Raina Telgemeier
The North-West Is Our Mother - Jean Teillet
Permanent Record - Edward Snowden
Red at the Bone - Jacqueline Woodson
A Trick of Light - Stan Lee
The Umbrella Academy, Volume 3 - Gerard Way
We Are the Weather - Jonathan Safran Foer
The Winter Soldier - Daniel Mason
September 20
From Where I Stand - Jody Wilson-Raybould
September 24
77 Fragments of a Familiar Ruin - Thomas King
Beverly, Right Here - Kate DiCamillo
Daughter of Family G - Ami McKay
The Dutch House - Ann Patchett
Erebus - Michael Palin
Exile from Eden - Andrew Smith
The Future of Another Timeline - Annalee Newitz
Grave Importance - Vivian Shaw
The Great Alone - Kristin Hannah
Greenwood - Michael Christi
Highway of Tears - Jessica McDiarmid
I Might Regret This - Abbi Jacobson
The Infinite Noise - Lauren Shippen
Island - Johanna Skibsrud
Possess the Air - Taras Grescoe
Queen Meryl - Erin Carlson
A Spark of Light - Jodi Picoult
Split Tooth - Tanya Tagaq
To Speak for the Trees - Diana Beresford-Kroeger
Truth Be Told - Beverley McLachlin
The Tyrant's Tomb - Rick Riordan
Watching You Without Me - Lynn Coady
The Water Dancer - Ta- Nehisi Coates
Wayward Son - Rainbow Rowell
The World That We Knew - Alice Hoffman
Year of the Monkey - Patti Smith
Year One - Nora Roberts
September 28
Carpe Fin - Michael Nicoll Yahgulanaas
September 30
The Starlight Watchmaker - Lauren James
Happy reading!
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June 3rd-June 9th, 2019 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party week long chat that occurred from June 3rd, 2019 to June 9th, 2019.  The chat focused on Galebound by Respheal.
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RebelVampire
COMIC TEA PARTY- WEEK LONG BOOK CLUB START!
Hello and welcome everyone to Comic Tea Party’s Week Long Book Club~! This week we’ll be focusing on Galebound by Respheal~! (http://www.galebound.com/)
You are free to read and comment about the comic all week at your own pace, so stop on by whenever it suits your schedule! Remember, though, that while we allow constructive criticism, our focus is to have fun and appreciate the comic. Below you will find four questions to get you started on the discussion. However, a new question will be posted and pinned everyday (between 12:01AM and 6AM PDT), so keep checking back for more! You have until June 9th to tell us all your wonderful thoughts! With that established, let’s get going on the reading and the chatting!
QUESTION 1. What has been your favorite scene in the comic so far? What specifically did you like about it?
QUESTION 2. Why and how do you think Conan has some of his own memories sealed? What did Altiria see that caused them such distress? How does this factor in to why Altiria thinks Din’s plans won’t pan out?
Respheal
In Altiria and Conan's defense, Din's plans fall to pieces if a butterfly crosses his path unexpectedly
RebelVampire
I accept the canon that Din can be tripped by butterflies
RebelVampire
I also accept a canon where Din starts yelling at the butterfly that it's 5 seconds too early and totally off schedule
Respheal
Yes
RebelVampire
Crack theory for #2: Conan was Felix all along. He doesn't know cause of the memories being sealed. and as Din befriends Conan, he will be torn between killing the friend hed come to love and the enemy he hates most in the world.
MJ Massey
Maybe the real Felix was inside us all along
RebelVampire
sorry Din, you've got felix germs inside you
1) the scene where Pascal shows up on the bridge to fight them. The look on everyone's faces is too priceless. And then everyone gets to have a nice chat and we get to see Pascal is just a great boy whose murder pants were a little too tight. 2) The memories are probably sealed for his own protection by someone who loves him. Cause why would anybody want to have to remember Felix? Altiria probably saw that Conan was the one true nobleman who was set to conquer them all. And that Din can't backstab conan so easily because of that.
Kabocha
MY FAVORITE SCENE! Is that one where Conan drowns after Alty tries to take him as a bri--- Wait that wasn't canon? Dammit, Conan! Realistically, though, I think it's currently the one here, starting at the end of Page 151: http://www.galebound.com/comics/2783990/151/ There's just.... a lot of weight. Pascal wakes up, and instead of really freaking out about nearly dying, he comforts his brother. You can learn a lot about Din and Pascal's relationship from these panels alone, and it's... something. (To me, it reads as Pascal being the one who buries a lot of his emotions - he never got a chance to really expect much out of life as a magician, before Din did what he did...)
Kabocha
Why does Conan have memories sealed... For... plot... reasons. You know, maybe Alty saw Conan's parents doing something. Maybe his parents are old enough to have been involved in the War of the Blind Kings--- What's that you say? No? :'D But on a serious note, one must wonder if Conan did something that necessitated his memories being sealed. A birth secret, perhaps? Maybe Conan's actually a part of the Gale that someone stole and put in a human body to learn the suffering of those under the system, to help give agency and consciousness to the arbiter of the Obligation. ...Hm. (Because right now, the Gale just... exists.) Alty, being a daemon, wouldn't like this naturally, right? If Conan's part of the Gale, she has a vested interest in making sure he returns to the cycle as he is. Anyway, Altiria's just expecting Din to get so judgemental that he misses everything going on in front of him. It nearly happened already with Pascal.... Rather than explaining things, he expected Conan to be another nobleman, and simply just hoped he could take care of things.
tl;dr: Conan ain't human, Din doesn't learn from his mistakes
Respheal
Hahaha that also addresses the question of why Alty didn't just tell Din (Communication, what's that?). Something that wild....Din wouldn't believe it even if (or perhaps especially if) Altiria just told him
Some things you gotta see for yourself xD
Or maybe they just wanna see Din faceplant
Kabocha
Well, that, and if Conan's even a fragment of the Gale, then that leaves him open to manipulation by magicians... Conan: I give command Din: I follow command.... BY USING YOU Conan: noes
Respheal
>:D(edited)
Kabocha
Also for the title, it makes sense? The Gale is bound....
Jo Michelle
Oh gosh, the end of Chap 5. YES. I was trying to figure out my favorite scene, but that would totally be it.
RebelVampire
tbf altiria could just believe both. that din wouldnt believe her and that she loves the idea of din faceplanting
Jo Michelle
Wait. If Con is Felix with the memories locked away, then, Conan's like "nice Light" in that section of Death Note SPOILERwhere he forgets about the book and is genuinely helping the police....END SPOILER ..... Oh no. Felix. What trap have you set for the world as soon as you get your memories back? This actually works well with my "Conan turns into a sociopath" theory..... jess sayin'
RebelVampire
i like this twist
that its cause felix has an awful plan in store
Kabocha
I dunno, I'm personally a fan of Conan being the Gale in human form.
Jo Michelle
Maybe he is, and he's also lost his memory of that?
RebelVampire
he can be both
Jo Michelle
He's the "power of the hurricane?"
https://genius.com/Frank-wildhorn-jack-murphy-and-ivan-menchell-hurricane-lyrics(edited)
That was a REAL reach there.... but, lyrics from the Death Note musical, sung by Light.
Don't underestimate my ability to reference three different things at once, and make a crack theory for Gb.
RebelVampire
Felix realized he was a part of the Gale but that the time was not right for the Shadowlord. So he sealed his memories, de-aged, and became Conan so that once the seal broke, it would be time to become the Shadowlord, merge with the Gale, and bring true destruction upon this land.
Kabocha
Bwahahahaha! The Dusk is an unjust land. The Gale can end it all peacefully with the power of the Shadowlord. It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down~
Respheal
To reference a crack theory from the GB server, if Din is destined to become the Shadowlord, I love the idea of Conan being the Gale
I'm a sucker for that sort of dichotomy
Kabocha
You say "Crack theory," I say "I've seen this before"
Jo Michelle
well, then, I feel obligated to copy/paste these lyrics:
I'll bring the rain
I'll bring the wind
I am the mighty hurricane
The human stains
And all their sins
Blown away
I'll bring the pain
So be afraid
I will bring the power of the hurricane
Conan's new life song?
Respheal
>:D
MJ Massey
I stan Conan as a Gale piece
MJ Massey
that would explain why he has no memories
maybe he's not Conan at all
Respheal
Okay before I gotta get to work I'll answer the questions, too because why not 1. Favorite scene....I tend to like scenes where the onion layers of a character get peeled back a bit and you get to see who they really are. For...well, kind of both Conan and Din, this is after the Pascal Incident™, when the dust is settling and the shock starts to wear off. We see Din as he is, a broken and terrified man stuck in an unfair and cruel system, backed into a corner. Conan, a young man thrown in a situation way out of his depth, but also a dutiful person willing to admit and correct his mistakes.
RebelVampire
#ConanDidNothingWrong
Respheal
http://www.galebound.com/comics/2681466/125/ http://www.galebound.com/comics/2683677/126/ <- these two pages specifically(edited)
Well not knowingly xD
......I'm going to avoid answering question 2 because my powers of bullshittery are weak and of course I know the real answer But Conan being the Gale.....well, trapping something that powerful in a human body would probably wreck havoc on that person....Wiping that person's memories as a result is plausible (edited)
RebelVampire
the real answer to number 2 is that Altiria realized that the entire comic is just a DnD campaign cause they were able to see the real life person who is controlling Conan. and they saw Conan's stat sheet, compared it to Din's, and realized Din got shitty rolls. cause Altiria is controlled by the DM.
Kabocha
But Alty's comparing a Magician to a Nobleman... Noblemen generally have a pretty good charisma modifier
RebelVampire
i feel sort of bad im the only one who picked a not super sad scene
im sorry for choosing to be happy everyone
Jo Michelle
I think you're in the wrong webcomic if you want happy....
SPOILER What did Altiria see that caused them such distress? END SPOILER
Okay. Here's what I think. Alty discovered that Conan's already signed a contract with Ursula, and they're like, mortal enemies with her.
Respheal
SURE
Jo Michelle
Instead of losing his voice, he's lost his memories until he can make Din fall in love with him.
And we all know.... that's never gonna happen.
RebelVampire
you lost be at din
this does not suit my conan/pascal ship
Jo Michelle
But, see, if he had his memories, all he'd need to do was tell Din to, since he's still got his voice.
no, see, this is why Con's doomed to fail.
Since, we all know that would never happen.
And when Ursula gave him the contract, she's like, "see, I even left you your voice to use as a Nobleman."
Respheal
> Contract Confirmed, Conan is a Warlock
.....or a Magical Girl
Jo Michelle
A MG who's doomed to fail.
Because, of course he is.
Kabocha
...Conan is Homura?
Jo Michelle
That doesn't feel quite right as a fit.....
Okay, but which ever one he is, his transformation into the Gale or Shadowlord will be when he gives into despair, and realizes his hopes were doomed from the beginning.
MJ Massey
why not both a warlock AND a magical girl. two times the tragedy
Respheal
>:D
I am okay with this
Kabocha
Everyone is doomed
Sarai
ok there have been a lot of great scenes in Galebound so far, but i think the one that always jumps out to me is where I first jumped into the comic, when Pascal snuck into the Inn during the dark hour
For me, that scene is what shifted my opinion from "oh this is neat i wonder what happens next" to "DANG SON THIS AUTHOR MEANS BUSINESS"
MJ Massey
I think that's my favorite scene too
Sarai
also i think i found it on a thursday or something, because by the time i caught up there was a new page Din in all his yellow magician-y glory, and Pascal in the middle of a swear XD
Jo Michelle
"You kiss your momma with that mouth?" Oh, yeah. She's dead. Never mind.
Respheal
That wouldn't stop Din from threatening Pascal with soap
MJ Massey
it's more like "would you kiss ME with that mouth? how dare...!"
Jo Michelle
oh that's just weird.
MJ Massey
that Din expects brother kisses?
Jo Michelle
I feel like Din is definitely one of those "do as I say not as I do" parenting styles.
RebelVampire
Din: Don't sell out magician children to the Nobleman. Pascal: But- Din: Do as I say, not as I do!
Kabocha
"You can't seize the means of production without being NEAR the means of production!"
Sarai
oh shoot i realized i never answered the second question
as far as theories go, i don't really have any I haven't been given enough information to really form an idea other than conan's dad leaving, him getting sick, and then his memories disappearing, are all connected somehow
OTHER THAN THAT i'm just along for the ride
Jo Michelle
Oh, they're connected. Felix definitely poisoned him.
A side affect was losing his memory.(edited)
Sarai
o-oh.....ok
But why tho
Jo Michelle
Does Felix need a reason? Other than he's Felix?
Sarai
you got me there
I was thinking it was something magic-related, not necessarily a mundane childhood illness or someone else's doing
Jo Michelle
He used a magical potion.
Sarai
but really, all i know for sure is that i'm young, dumb, and a complete sucker for sick fics
Jo Michelle
A memory destroying potion. Getting sick was the side affect.
Sarai
or sick cannon, as it be
Jo Michelle
He needed to destroy his memory, since Conan knew ...... something.....
give me a minute.
Sarai
he walked in on felix SPOILER getting pollinated by a flower daemon END SPOILER
HE SAW TOO MUCH
Jo Michelle
That'll give anyone an automatic sickness and memory loss.
Sarai
maybe that's why altiria was so mad
Jo Michelle
But, for real..... I think Conan knew something about a BIG baddie's plan, and Felix gave him a memory blocking potion.
Note, for real should have been written "for real" ..... since I know things. :puffer:
Sarai
oh yeah, i forgot you weren't a lowly pleb like me XD
Jo Michelle
:puffer:
Sarai
you patreon people with your fancy spoiler privileges and early scripts
Jo Michelle
For real though, I actually don't know why or exactly how he lost his memory. I have guesses, but nothing's confirmed.
So I'm going with memory potion.
And he knows SOMETHING big. I'll bet that's why Alty freaked out too.
HE KNOWS A THING THAT MUST NOT BE SHARED.
Respheal
This is true, even patrons don't have the exact details yet
Muahahahaha >:3c
Jo Michelle
I'll bet it's the secret to bringing down the Gale, but that would also destroy the world.
And Alty's like "nope. No way."
"Your memory's a ticking time bomb."
Sarai
I'm assuming.....we'll be revisiting that moment from childhood at some point, right?
Respheal
I do sometimes describe Conan as SPOILER a time bomb END SPOILER ....
Uhhhhhhh
Probably not in full flashback form unfortunately
Jo Michelle
I'm RIGHT. My theory is now confirmed.
Conan has a secret hidden in his childhood memories that could destroy the world. And Alty figured it was better to make sure it's never revealed.
Respheal
"Not again"
Is a thing Alty yelled
Jo Michelle
Wait. WHAT?
Mahotou
http://www.galebound.com/comics/2529569/086/(edited)
Jo Michelle
.........
Mahotou
c:
Jo Michelle
I have no idea what to make of this.
Mahotou
i have fears
Respheal
:3c
Mahotou
c,:
Jo Michelle
Well. I'm just gonna assume Felix managed to do something REALLY horrible to the dang ocean and Conan knows how he did it, if he'd only remember.
When in doubt, I always blame Felix.
It's worked so far.
Respheal
That's fair
Sarai
one fear
Jo Michelle
To be fair, if something destroyed the ocean, that would definitely hurt the Dusk, sooooooo RIP Conan. The world needs its ocean more than another Nobleman. Sorry. No hard feelings?
AND. Felix, after nearly destroying the ocean went off to face the Gale, and ....... well...... he's had a bit of a revolving life ever since.... :puffer:
I lied. Felix didn't administer the memory potion. It was Conan's mom. To protect the world.
Felix was happy to have his son learn how to wreck havoc and destruction on the planet.
Sarai
i know we've slandered her before but it always feels so wrong
Jo Michelle
I'm not slandering Conan's mom. Just saying she made a hard choice between her son's memory, and the world.
Felix is the one who made her have to make such a choice.
Still totally his fault. He just left her to deal with the aftermath when he left to take on the Gale.
Kabocha
You know how I said Conan is the Gale? Maybe people tried this before. What could a lone nobleman with a daemon fragment inside him do... ...enrage Alty, that's what.
Jo Michelle
WAIT. Was that what happened when he got sick?
Felix was inserting a daemon into him?
Respheal
Having a literal hurricane stuffed into a child's body would probably have that effect(edited)
Jo Michelle
In the eye of a hurricane
There is quiet
For just a moment
A yellow sky
I was twelve when my mother died
She was holding me
We were sick and she was holding me
I couldn’t seem to die
I couldn't resist
Kabocha
What daemon hell has Felix wrought...?!
Respheal
Oh
Oh that song
Mahotou
Is felix systematically destroying the world one element at a time? Ocean, Gale, .. what next. Fire?(edited)
Respheal
Oh shit Conan was twelve at the time(edited)
Kabocha
I mean
Jo Michelle
Wait. WHAT?
I thought he was like, 7 or 8
Respheal
No that's when Felix left xD(edited)
Kabocha
@Mahotou if he's taking the elements... ...then. that explains where his heart went
Is he trying to make captain planet
Mahotou
negative captain planet
reverse captain planet
Kabocha
He wants to start dusk on a rotation
Mahotou
If i change the gale, i can get the world spinning
Kabocha
He's getting captain planet to make all of dusk habitable
Although everyone will freak out at their newfound nights...
Mahotou
#SAVETHEPLANET
D:!?
WHAT A TWIST
FELIX IS UPSETTING THE WORLD TO SAVE IT
Respheal
Irony (edited)
Kabocha
Gotta crack some eggs to make a cake
Jo Michelle
Eh. That's just cause his mom told him one time that he couldn't live in the Shadow or the Galelands.
And he doesn't like being told "no"
Mahotou
aaaand we're back to the normal slander. ;D
Kabocha
No, Felix's DAD told him no
Jo Michelle
Sure.
Kabocha
Felix has daddy issues, because his dad disappeared for years....
Mahotou
we haven't talked much about Conan's grandparents. makes me think about them now lol
Jo Michelle
It's a whole legacy of being horrible fathers.
I mean, they ARE Noblemen.
Mahotou
and then what of the mom's side. how was she raised?
Kabocha
His father had a reason though: international business
Jo Michelle
Oh. I see. One of those guys who destroy some other country for cheap labor. Yep. Sounds like a Nobleman.(edited)
Kabocha
She was arranged in that marriage
Jo Michelle
Oh, yeah. She didn't have a choice.
Sarai
heck even in non magical families abuse gets handed down through the generations - i wouldn't be surprised if Felix had an equally bad relationship with one or both of his parents
Kabocha
Oh, she might have had a choice
Jo Michelle
What, you think anyone would choose to marry Felix?
Kabocha
It might have been to improve her own circumstances... Or because Evenheim was closer to Cymaria... Or.... [Makes up bullshit about Felix's parents]
Oh, I was talking about Felix's mom
Not his wife
Jo Michelle
Oh, I thought we were talking about Conan's mom.
Mahotou
@Jo Michelle only if he's ... some how... not Felix?
xD
OH me too i thought we were talking about conan's mom too(edited)
Jo Michelle
I stand by the "some parent or person forced her to marry Felix" theory.
Kabocha
But what if she LIKED Felix
Respheal
gasp
Jo Michelle
What, LIKE Felix?!?
Mahotou
SLANDER?
Kabocha
Alternatively, she could be like... Charlotte Lucas, who married, but arranged Mr. Collins' day so he was out of the way...
Jo Michelle
You realize that if she actually cared about Felix, him leaving would be even more painful. I prefer to think of it as a relief to her.
She got a happy few years with her son and no Felix.
Kabocha
Maybe she liked the idea of Felix, but he was actually really annoying and overbearing
Felix wanted a life in the clergy
Jo Michelle
Oh, I'm sure he was super annoying and overbearing.
Sarai
don't forget neurotic
Everything had to be done just so
Jo Michelle
Oh yeah. She had to do it exactly the way he said.
Sarai
"no conan, you can't plant the lettuce 2 inches apart they must be 2 1/2"
Jo Michelle
"yes papa."
-Get's measuring tape from house to make sure-
See? Why would anyone marry that out of choice?
Definitely an arranged marriage. Or something like it.
Sarai
wait res, how many years ago did felix and celia get married
Kabocha
I hope we don't run into anyone worse than Felix
Respheal
Uhhhhhhh
24 I think
Yeah
Sarai
ok so not marriage of convenience then
Jo Michelle
:puffer:
Sarai
just running through all our options here
Kabocha
In this week's chat: All the Felix hate
Jo Michelle
And @RebelVampire isn't even here to defend the jerk.
Mahotou
There s so much slander happening lol
Respheal
Mostly about Felix xD Which is....fair....Based on what we know so far of him, surely he isn't up to anything good
Darkhalo4321
Hey
Felix is a good dad deep down i am sure...
i refuse to believe otherwise
Jo Michelle
Oh, yeah. Leave his kid to plant and morn his mom alone. But he's a good dad deep down, so it's all good. It's all good.
Kabocha
He had neighbors
Darkhalo4321
He was in good hands.
Sometimes a good dad lets better people raise their kids.
keii4ii
I'm walking in and am somewhat confused by the whole room just BURNIN' with Felix hate
insert 'pizza guy walks into a room on fire' gif
Respheal
Keiiii
Felix is just a very polarizing character.....for someone who hasn't actually shown up yet lol
keii4ii
Dedicating the following emoji to Felix tonight:
keii4ii
I bet some of the characters would approve of the Felix hate though
RebelVampire
Felix is gonna turn out to be a great dude and @Jo Michelle is gonna eat a hat out of frustration when that happens
im saving all my felix propaganda for the felix question thats later in the week O_O
Kabocha
Hahaha!
The basis of Felix hate really hinges on two pages
http://www.galebound.com/comics/2432399/059/ And http://www.galebound.com/comics/2674968/123/
http://www.galebound.com/comics/2683677/126/ this page also maybe helps, but I don't trust Din to see things well under duress
keii4ii
^ Same (No offense, Din.)
RebelVampire
you couldve left that at "I don't trust Din"
that's all that needs to be said
RebelVampire
QUESTION 3. At the moment, who is your favorite character? What about that character earns them this favor?
QUESTION 4. What do you think will happen once Din and Conan reach Cymaria? Will Din’s plans unravel, or will the two manage to slay the queen? What will be the consequences of either path?
RebelVampire
3) Felix who is the best character who is trying to save the world. It's definitely not Pascal. It's not like Pascal is the best dresser and basically is the dude that gets the short end of the stick throughout the comic. Not to mention Pascal definitely isn't just adorable or anything. Plus, Pascal isn't even the most reasonable of the characters who is filled with surprises yet just wants everone to be alive and happy for his parties. 4) Everyone will sit down for tea. Realistically? Din's plans will fall apart because of whatever reasons Alty knows. Plus, I think Din overestimates his skills as a magician and underestimates the difficulty in killing a monarch, not to mention a nobleman. and thus Conan and Din will be in jail or wanted men or something. And then Pascal will become an accomplice and they'll all flee Cymaria trying to outrun their wanted posters and searching for Felix to punch him in the face. So ya know, Galebound will just be the most epic fantasy road trip, maybe with bank robberies. Honestly, does anyone actually think Din is going to succeed? I feel there isn't anyone who has faith in him.
Jo Michelle
I was called OUT last night.(edited)
Fave Character? Definitely Pascal. Most intriguing character, as in, onion layers of emotion I'm anticipating seeing stripped away? Din.
Reach Cymaria? Oooohhh, that's a good question. I think the queen is secretly super evil, and actually working for scary grin lady in the prologue. But she's also super smooth talking and smart, and will trick Conan into listening to her, poor sap that he is, and get him to turn on Din. MAYBE, Conan will even start to think he's falling in love with her – but then find out she's been using him, and make him even more upset, when he realizes he almost cheated on Lucie for this person.
RebelVampire
Lucie couldve been Conan's mistress at least.
Jo Michelle
OH no. I don't see her being okay with such an arrangement.
RebelVampire
tbf we havent met the real lucie yet. maybe shes secretly a gold digger who knew conan was a prince all along and just wanted that sweet evenheim gold
Jo Michelle
Hum. That's a good point.
And I already said what I think of Conan's judgment with women, so I guess I can't fall back on "but Conan wouldn't have loved her if she wasn't good."
Okay. Point made. Fine.
RebelVampire
the one good thing din did for conan
saved him from proposing to the wrong girl
Jo Michelle
Re: Felix is a Good Dude: I'm just using the Sirius test:
Sirius shook his head and said, “She’s got the measure of Crouch better than you have, Ron. If you want to know what a man’s like, take a good look at how he treats his inferiors, not his equals.”
.... You want to know the measure of a Nobleman? Ask a Magician.(edited)
There's no reason to hide your true nature from a person who has to do literally whatever you tell them to.
RebelVampire
but the only magician we can ask is din and din is a biased source who is basing his hatred on info that is years out of date
Jo Michelle
Eh. How an adult treated you as a child is not a bad estimate either.
I'm not saying he couldn't have changed. Just that I'm gonna have to see some darn good evidence of that change.
In Din's case, he was in the inferior position as both a Magician and a child.
To be fair, full disclosure – I don't think Felix is the worst person ever. Heck, he might be pretty typical of Noblemen. I mean, his treatment of Din could be totally normal. But that doesn't make it any better, or excuse him one bit.(edited)
RebelVampire
thats fair. i more think its better to assume neutrality and give benefit of the doubt that he isnt the same person. which gives room also for him to be far worse too, but hey gives him a chance
i will point out though that conan barely didnt anything wrong on purpose and din hated him on principle
din is himself not the best person XD
Jo Michelle
Din is what Felix made him.
Felix, and others.
Din was a lost, confused, hurting, traumatized boy.
But let's not forget who, at least, contributed to that.(edited)
RebelVampire
Din is also an adult now and in charge of his own choices though. And his adult choices are garbage. If Felix had been abused and locked in a closet, would that excuse the choices he made? XD
Jo Michelle
Oh, I'm not excusing Din now. That's the problem with pain and trauma – the way it spreads.(edited)
BUT, the person with power here is still Felix.
Even if Din is responding totally wrong, the people with the power are still the Noblemen, so the greater responsibility for ending the violence still rests on them.
It's like the moral equivalency fallacy of [spoiler blocked for those who don't want to think about politics] SPOILER of white supremacists and anti-racism bombings, such as in South Africa. No, killing innocent people isn't right and will just produce more pain and suffering, but the two aren't equivalent, because of power. END SPOILER This is why I judge Felix more harshly than Din.
RebelVampire
That's fair.
I can't take the same path cause I don't think all the evidence is in order. Cause we haven't met Felix, don't actually have a factual account of what he even did to Din, and so forth. So while I can agree that Felix can be judged more harshly via power in certain contexts, I think its unfair to cast judgement at the moment.
Kabocha
Question: How do we know that whatever Felix and Din's interaction was, that it wasn't like... Self defense?
It was clearly BAD, but Din was a child
Jo Michelle
That's also fair. But, for me, the burden of proof will be on Felix.
RebelVampire
yeah thats another reason i dont trust Din's account of everything and label him a biased source. Cause he was a child at the time of whatever happened just by the context clues
cause kids dont generally have all the info to a situation.
cause adults dont tell
also cause they have kid brains
not to mention were expecting din's account to even be accurate after years
and memories are faulty
even when trauma is involved
which again
Felix may be the most awful person in the world
I just pass no judgement based on Din's account
as far as im concerned, din is no better than the boy who cried wolf right now
which acually is a better analogy then i intended. cause his hatred of conan really damages his case against felix.
which inevitably makes me sorry for Din if Felix is as awful as he thinks
Din is undoing his own case
Jo Michelle
No, Din is just proving my point about power and Noblemen in general. I recently heard and wrote down a great definition of racism: Prejudice + Power to enforce your Prejudice = Racism That's why oppressed people can be prejudice, but not racist. So, sure, Din is prejudiced against Noblemen in general, and Felix in particular, but that's mostly from experience. Conan seems to be his first encounter with a Nobleman that didn't confirm his expectations.
RebelVampire
i think this convo is going a bit too political at this point so im gonna reign it in
Jo Michelle
Okay, sorry.
RebelVampire
no its fine. im just reigning it in before it goes too far to real world.
cause at this point were touching on a very sensitive, relevant real world topic.
and thats inviting chaos
Jo Michelle
Should I spoiler hide that last comment?
RebelVampire
nah cause when i archive it, itll be visible anyway.
Jo Michelle
ah.
Really?
good to know.
RebelVampire
yeah. someday i will address that if i get a real website for CTP, but right now things are just archived as plain text.
At least we can agree that Pascal is the best
I mean umm...Felix. Yes. Definitely not Pascal.
Pascal the angel
Respheal
The abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power
Not gonna lie, I didn't expect this story to touch on some real world problems when I first started writing it x'D this was just going to be a road trip(edited)
RebelVampire
tbf you overthink anything too much and you can put real life themes on it.
which is whats supposed to happen
it is the mark of good fiction
Respheal
Yeah, and it...worked? x'D but I do realize that because these Very Real Themes are a part of it now, I have to be able to handle those themes respectfully.(edited)
I will answer question 3 in a bit and make you all mad that the answer is Felix (edited)
....actually nvm I should answer based only on the current canon ahahaha
RebelVampire
yes pick Felix O_O
i cant pick felix cause hes not in the story yet
maybe someday
Respheal
Felix actually is my fave, but yeah he's not in the story yet. Although he has clearly had a huge impact on it so far. He's like a massive object and every other character is sucked into his gravity well
If I had to pick from current canon (which is like the boys and Altiria).....that's a tough call
RebelVampire
obviously altiria since they can just drown everyone
Respheal
You're right. The only sensible choice
I am actually struggling to pick so let's go with that
Kabocha
3. At the moment, who is your favorite character? What about that character earns them this favor? Altiria! I'm sorry, Alty's natrually quite salty. It just flows out of them seamlessly... Altiria seas and knows all in the world, for Altiria is all water... Water we waiting for, we should all cheer for our water god! 4. What do you think will happen once Din and Conan reach Cymaria? Will Din’s plans unravel, or will the two manage to slay the queen? What will be the consequences of either path? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Conan's gon' die. Unless they opt for an infiltration - Din only has to bring Conan to Cymaria... Right? I guess it depends on how that command's interpreted
RebelVampire
maybe they never make it to court. maybe they stop at burger king on the way but pascal wont let them leave until he gets all the toys from the kids meal
and nobody told him you didnt have to buy the meal to get the toy
MJ Massey
4. What do you think will happen once Din and Conan reach Cymaria? Will Din’s plans unravel, or will the two manage to slay the queen? What will be the consequences of either path?
I think they'll intend to slay the queen but then find out she's not the true villain. She's actually pretty cool, but it's the royal vizier/high priest/magician who's the REAL villain. They'll team up to try to stop them, but the queen will inadvertently die in the process and it turns out SPOILER she was Felix the whole time END SPOILER
Jo Michelle
SPOILER Not gonna lie, I didn't expect this story to touch on some real world problems when I first started writing it x'D this was just going to be a road trip END SPOILER
I thought the same thing, friend. We all did, I think.
Respheal
As for question 4......well, we're not even all the way through act 1 so of course things are gonna hit the fan
RebelVampire
the bigger question is how can galebound end happily
Jo Michelle
Things, huh? :cornytea:
Kabocha
The bigger question is: CAN it end happily
Respheal
That is actually a good question
Kabocha
I posit the following: No.
MJ Massey
I agree
no way Res is gonna let the cast off that easy
RebelVampire
everything will turn out fine. then a rogue meteor will come and crash into the planet, pushing it out of orbit
Jo Michelle
I'm trusting in Res's enjoyment of the end of "Speak".... it's literally the only evidence I've got going for my hope in a "happy" ending...(edited)
Kabocha
@RebelVampire This isn't Final Fantasy!!
RebelVampire
thats just what res wants us to think
felix is the meteor
Respheal
A sufficiently large meteor might kick the planet out of its tidal locking therefore eliminating the extreme focused heat that fuels the Gale
RebelVampire
ya know i was mostly just joking, but then res came in and said that
i think this is as good as canon
Kabocha
ominous chanting
Respheal
If this were Final Fantasy the eclipse planet would come crashing down but right before it hits--surprise it was a giant dragon's prison all along so it's death by dragon instead of by meteor
RebelVampire
and felix was the imprisoned dragon?
which is where hes been all this time
Respheal
Yes
Kabocha
...So it's not Final Fantasy, it's Fire Emblem
RebelVampire
Fire Fantasy
well just combine them
Mahotou
Final Emblem
RebelVampire
Fire Fantasy V: The Final Emblem
Jo Michelle
Felix is a dragon. I can live with that.
RebelVampire
ok so its been approved. Felix is a dragon canon is a go.
can sleep on his pile of gold and kidnap princesses
and eat them
Jo Michelle
Like Conan's mom. She was a kidnapped princess.
Respheal
......So Conan's part dragon now?
RebelVampire
yes
see
Jo Michelle
Confirmed.
RebelVampire
this canon gets better and better
conan is gonna wake up one morning and wonder why he can breathe fire
Jo Michelle
That literally happened in a kids book I read once.
Kabocha
reads chat
...So Conan is a Manakete, which explains why Dusk time seems so weird to him if their solar cycle is............ rapid
It's not that dusk is fast, it's that Conan is old
WAIT CONAN IS GRIMA
Respheal
You caught me
Jo Michelle
I need to see a Conan art with dragon fire or wings now.
Sarai
There was a story I read where dragons took human form and could only access their dragon form through a magic device passed down through their family
I'm not saying conan's pocketwatch lets him turn into a dragon but
Mahotou
Are these hypothetical dragons... daemons?
Respheal
They probably would be
Mahotou
xD more Conan Hybrid Theory
Sarai
But important to note, in that story only full-blooded dragons could transform
Half-dragons ended up with horns and tails and lizard-like ear flaps
RebelVampire
conan hasnt hit dragon puberty yet. din is in for a nasty surprise
Sarai
BUT since we're talking about Conan, I'm gonna say he's my favorite right now, in an answer to question 3
I'm in love with Pascal and the sun shines a little brighter every time I see him, but Conan is one of the few characters I can point to and say "hey, he thinks like me!"
Mahotou
#relatable
Sarai
We have a strikingly similar way of processing things and making decisions, and I don't see that a lot in fiction
Especially fantasy
Jo Michelle
Good job Res!
Sarai
That's why I couldnt get mad at him for the Pascal Incident™
Its exactly what I would have done
Jo Michelle
That's fair. .....
Kabocha
(guys I think the inside jokes are escaping)
Jo Michelle
which ones?
I mean, other than Shadowlord.
Felix is the worst
Kabocha
The SHADOWLORD CANNOT BE CONTAINED
hybrid theory
conan is secretly going to end the world... etc
................... Carry on
Jo Michelle
Okay, I see your point.
RebelVampire
oh man if were basing fave character on who we relate to the most, idk who to pick
maybe lucie for me cause shes the character who is just back at home not getting involved with all the adventures
Respheal
yet
Mahotou
what's lucy going to do when she finds her best bud is missing? for two/three dark hours(edited)
Kabocha
Rebel, how do you handle spoiler tags in archives?
Jo Michelle
Well, that would be Checkers.
RebelVampire
they are visible as plain text
Respheal
I'm okay with that being visible, I'm half saying it out of humor xD
RebelVampire
cause there just isnt a good way to do them in regards to tumblr's setup
@Mahotou im gonna repeat a thing i said on the server for in regards to what lucie will do: just assume he went and pulled a felix and get herself a new boyfriend
Mahotou
OH NO
xD
looking at the questions, I don't know who's my fav as a character. but I like Pascal as a person c:
sweet boy cant catch a break
that's like his description too or something
Respheal
It is xD
Mahotou
too good for this world. cant catch a break
xD
oh and for question 4. What if! Conan got kidnapped by the Cymaria Court and he gets a WHOLE OTHER view of this situation? they try to convince him of their side away from Din.
Mahotou
I think i got this idea from Fire Emblem. Birthright/Conquest
two sides of one situation O: dun dun dunnnnn
Jo Michelle
Ooohhhh
That would be a twist.
Mahotou
# NOW who's the bad guy? Conan technically has limited information but he DOES have experience with the magic and obligation on magicians. and the weird amulet
but what if truths are twisted? Who should he side with O: dun dun dunnnnn
... he'd prolly wanna go home to his Lucie and forget this lol(edited)
RebelVampire
semi off topic, but arcein. arcein is the bad guy.
if they talk like a villain, smile like a villain, and do creepy vague shit like villains, theyre probably a villain
Mahotou
/subvert expectations OH LETS MAKE HER THE GOOD GUY XD
300 year old spirit thing with creepy grin in an amulet. was trapped like a Genie when she tried to do a good but it did a bad/
Wish we knew more about her in canon. She could be a fav character O:
Kabocha
gotta wonder how many people in galebound are actually good guys
and Din's just the one who wants to burn the world
Sarai
conan is a goode boye
and so is pascal
he tried to be mean once boy nearly put himself into an angst coma
enshogirl
The Good: Artemis (#1 good), Pascal, Conan The Bad: Din, Felix, Altiria and The Ugly: Arcein, King Cymaria
Respheal
Altiria as bad? xD
RebelVampire
i mean
i dont think you can say altiria is good either
Respheal
I guess for the most part I consider daemons to be neutral(edited)
RebelVampire
thats fair although from a story perspective she has attempted murder of conan on her book
Respheal
Truuuuuue
enshogirl
I don’t trust her
RebelVampire
QUESTION 5. What has been your favorite illustration in the comic so far? What specifically about it do you like?
QUESTION 6. How do you think Pascal will adjust to being both deaf and cut off from magic? How will he wind up helping or hurting Din and Conan? Ultimately, do you think Pascal’s life will be better or worse for what happened?
Kabocha
For question 5... http://www.galebound.com/comics/2449333/064/ THIS PANEL Holy shit Res really pulled off magic with this one!! I just love the energy and the sense of Din's sheer power here. In retrospect, you have to wonder if it was amplified because he was really following two commands at once? As far as Pascal goes... I think Pascal's honestly going to adjust. He's adaptable, and strikes me as the type of person who takes life as it comes. So this sort of outcome might actually be a bit freeing in some respects... ...Although in the meantime, I'm sure there'll be lots of worrying about what he's good for, what'll happen to him, and such... He's no longer useful to anyone as a magician, really.
(That is to say, I'm looking forward to Pascal fostering kittens. That's clearly what he's got to do with his life after this!!)
MJ Massey
I feel like Pascal has strong strangling hands
Jo Michelle
I CAN'T choose a page! Or an illustration. But it would definitely be one of those in the end of chap 5 ... ALL THE FEELS THERE.
MJ Massey
so he's going to become a pro strangler
Jo Michelle
Although I'm kinda super partial to the illustration that's going up for today It's so heartbreaking and pretty, okay?!?
Actually, I think Pascal is going to go through a quarter life crisis, buy a muscle carstrong horse and take off on a road trip across the Dusk to "find himself."(edited)
Freedom, baby!
Jo Michelle
But I'm kinda in love with Din's half lit expression from this page: http://www.galebound.com/comics/2771099/147/(edited)
Respheal
Quarter life crisis
Jo Michelle
I mean, he's not quite at a quarter life, but..... he's getting there?
And I LOVE the body language in this one: http://www.galebound.com/comics/2780569/150/
Especially Len. My new favorite side character. The adult this problem child needs.
Kabocha
As far as head canons are concerned... All we know at the moment is she was SHOCKED that Din did what he did.
Jo Michelle
Oh, you know I can build an entire life history from a face shot and three paragraphs about Felix. I've got way more about Len here.
Kabocha
https://tenor.com/view/tea-shade-goth-halloween-gif-4637758
RebelVampire
5) For favorite illustration, I gotta go with Pascal gets his butt beat #1 http://www.galebound.com/comics/2369956/040/ The lighting on this is really great. Plus I really like the slanted angle it has going on. I think there's something about that choice that really makes you empathize with Conan. Cause much like the angle is expressing something is kind of not right in terms of the balance of the world, this is the first time extreme magic is at play. So it really puts you in Conan's shoes where you're like "Is this happening my life is a lie" 6) Deaf I think he'll go with easily cause I think for Pascal that one will be easier to roll with the punches for. Magic? That sounds harder if you've basically relied on it for most of your life. Cause at that point I'd think it'd be an instinctual thing that's gonna hurt when you try to fire blast someone but forget you cant actually do that anymore. Pascal's life will probably be better. He can chameleon into the crowd now and party all the parties. As for helping or hurting Din and Conan, I feel like hurt might be more likely. Just cause Pascal is kind of a distraction for Din. Cause Din was doing okay but everytime Pascal showed up he had to change his plans. Which I guess is me saying Pascal is Din's bad luck charm.
Jo Michelle
Oh, yeah, that's a GREAT moment. It's actually one of those that came to mind.
Respheal
I'm still really happy with Conan's expression on that page
Jo Michelle
Oh yeah. "Shi--" just hit the fan there.
RebelVampire
i think everyone's faces looks there. one of the few pages where im like "Din isn't that bad a dude" O_O
RebelVampire
overall i like any page that's a double spread for illustration. cause while mobile design is the way to go, it means theres less and less double spreads going on. so when i see them i squee
Respheal
I enjoy doing those pages, too xD Ironically they tend to be faster to make since they're just 1-2 panels, so I try to go more all out with it >:D
Mahotou
5. Favorite illustration? well i have one that got me rolling back into doing art after a huge time away from it. break-my-heart its pascal's face here (second to last panel) : http://www.galebound.com/comics/2592094/101/(edited)
my fave pics are very emotional i think
Sarai
that page also features Din angrily buttoning his waistcoat as he tries to glare his brother into silence XD
Mahotou
http://www.galebound.com/comics/2639011/115/ oh and o boy this one. the whole page.
RebelVampire
i counter your sadness with hilarious pascal http://www.galebound.com/comics/2484303/072-5/
Sarai
that one is great
Mahotou
6. How do you think Pascal will adjust to being both deaf and cut off from magic? I think, not being a Magician will be ok for Pascal. He may enjoy using magic or be good at it but he can only use it when commanded so I don't believe he'll feel totally lost without it. And maybe he can be sneaky and Queen Cymaria will attempt to command him because he's supposed to be a Court Magician but then he'd be liek nahh and she'd be surprised and TeamGrump can get the upperhand. O: but also now he has to have the amulet always with him too. He has to always be touching it or else he'll start dying again so i kinda feel like this physical object may be troublesome. (but i'm sure he'll be a smart cookie and thing of something to keep it in place.) How will he wind up helping or hurting Din and Conan? hmmm. well he's MORE of a free spirit now, as he's outside the Obligation. and he's always been a ninja (good climber --> (roof boy: http://www.galebound.com/comics/2358585/032/) so he can be helpful by going on errands. but heeeee wouldn't notice if he was being noisy... so he's losing stealth points. Deafness... he'll probably miss his hearing but I think he's a talented learner and will come up with hand signals between himself and friends/Din and also practice lip reading. @Rebel: He can chameleon into the crowd now and party all the parties. but he cant hear the music at the parties now D: i've just made myself really sad.... Ultimately, do you think Pascal’s life will be better or worse for what happened? Better because he won't have the Obligation around. ... or... or worse because he now has to have this amulet so now instead of the Obligation being a part of his life, he now has to care about this amulet for liek... the rest of his life. and he has be careful to always be touching it in some way. Maybe that's ok tho. and life will be fine and the brothers will just take care of each other.
woops that was a loaded #6.
i think i rambled but i won't edit this xD
keii4ii
@enshogirl 's listing of Artemis as #1 good does make me think, though (and I agree with the sentiment )
I like Artemis a lot, almost weirdly so, and I'm starting to see why
This is a story where you can't trust anyone -- I mean Pascal may be a good boy, but you might not be entirely safe around him. So having someone you can trust is meaningful, even if that someone isn't a human X'D
and that says a lot about the story truly being a web of schemes!
Jo Michelle
It's totally true. You really can't totally trust Magicians.....
But then, they can't even trust their own brains and motivations....
Respheal
That's a good point, @keii4ii I wish I enjoyed drawing Artemis more, because she is important to Conan as a character. She's the lodestar of stability and sanity for him in this quest into the unknown
......what are those reacts lol
I feel like you read that as me being like "it'd be a shame if something happened to her :3c"
Jo Michelle
Oh, no, I was thinking about Conan.
Respheal
Oh hahaha
Jo Michelle
How a horse is the only person he can find stability and relational safety in.
Kabocha
@Respheal don't you dare take that horse's boy away from her
Mahotou
XD Club "Keep Artemis Safe"
RebelVampire
QUESTION 7. Which characters do you enjoy seeing interact the most? What about their dynamic interests you?
QUESTION 8. What do you think Din’s ultimate plans are? Is it killing Felix or is there a bigger story to his ambitions? How does killing the Queen of Cymaria even factor into them? What even motivated his plans in the first place?
Jo Michelle
Character interaction dynamics. Hum. I mean, we've only really seen Din, Con, Pasc, and Alty. But, I've got to say, I really like the Din/Alty dynamics. They know things about Din, and the way they tell him what's what is good.
And the Din/Pasc. The way they care about each other as brothers, but also bicker about stuff. That's fun.
Basically, I think I really like character interactions that draw out Din's emotions and force him to say and do things that reveal what's going on inside.
. Speaking of. Din's plans. I mean, he's out to kill Felix for sure. That 16YO Din wasn't acting. That was seething rage there. But I think his end game is to bring down the system somehow.
But I don't know enough about it to really say how he might be going about that.
MJ Massey
Din and Pascal have an interesting dynamic I want to see more of, both in flashbacks and in the present day
like how did Pascal get involved in everything and trying to kill Conan? Are he and Din on good terms or no?
Sarai
Pascal with anyone quite fankly
Considering the characters that have been introduced, his nature of pure sunshine conflicts so hard with everyone we've seen him talk to
But he just.....keeps on going
Respheal
Pascal's fun to write interactions with because he's good at keeping people just a little off balance--he talks fast, hops between topics, and just his overall sunshine demeanor bewilders xD I like to think Conan and Din play off each other well.....in, uh, better circumstances, maybe.
RebelVampire
7) I'm gonna go with Alty and Conan. I like how their interactions always really emphasis Alty is basically just on Alty's side. Cause they arent remorseful for trying to kill Conan, and even imply a bit they can still drown Conan at anytime. Yet at the same time Alty is also the person willing to warn Conan that Din is basically a dumbass. So whenever they interact theres always this uneasiness. I think a lot may be a change in the power dynamic cause even if Conan can command Din, theres only so much you can do to stop the ocean. 8) Din's plans are basically Step 1- Kill Felix Step 2 - ??? Step 3-Profit. Which is my way of saying i think calling what Din's "plans" plans is misleading. Rather, I think he has goals and just vague ideas of how to get to those goals. Like a kid with a treasure map who is finding the X but forgot to bring a shovel or backpack to carry back the treasure. I agree that Din probably wants to bring balance to the system. But I also think in his crazed mind he thinks that killing Felix is the way its gonna happen. I think Din gives Felix waaaaay too much credit. Although, honestly, I can't figure why he needs to kill the Queen. Like certainly this frees him from needing to be a court magician there. But unless theres a secret command from them that says "nah bro don't kill felix" i dont see how overthrowing a monarch works in Din's favor at all.
Mahotou
7.
@jo: And the Din/Pasc. The way they care about each other as brothers, but also bicker about stuff. That's fun.
Basically, I think I really like character inte
ractions that draw out Din's emotions and force him to say and do things that reveal what's going on inside. yasss 8. Din seems like a focus one track person. He wants to kill Felix. and he's still trying to reach that even tho Cymaria has him doing other magician errands first. But sounds like he almost got the command he wanted: "Bring me the head of Evenheim's heir" http://www.galebound.com/comics/2764870/145/ but he found Conan before Felix? maybe he thinks he can work with conan to convince/trick conan into giving him commands he wants.
Kabocha
7. Which characters do you enjoy seeing interact the most? What about their dynamic interests you? Din and Conan, honestly. I got friggin BAMBOOZLED when I started reading this. I was like, "hey they're staying in an inn, some shenanigans are gonna ensue!" AND THEN NOPE, MURDER ATTEMPT. So, what I thought was gonna be a fantasy buddy comedy turned out to be very much not that. And I kind of look forward to seeing how Din and Conan progress from snarky strangers to friends... Assuming Din doesn't get killed first.
8. What do you think Din’s ultimate plans are? Is it killing Felix or is there a bigger story to his ambitions? How does killing the Queen of Cymaria even factor into them? What even motivated his plans in the first place?
Din has a plan? Ever since Conan figured out he was able to command Din, it's kinda gone to shit, so... I think Din's ultimate plan was probably to kill the Cymarian nobility AND to kill Felix. http://www.galebound.com/comics/2332038/022/ Although I guess Conan didn't tell Din to tell him the truth, so... Din's a very angry man, probably motivated by the inherent injustice in the obligation. I think if he could have anything in life right now, it would be that he could be a normal person. He got the slightest taste of normalcy as a child, and... Well. :\
anyway I just need to say @Respheal how dare you bring us in thinking comedy and break us all like this so far
Respheal
>:D
RebelVampire
QUESTION 9. What sorts of art or story details have you noticed in the way the comic is crafted that you think deserves attention?
QUESTION 10. Who or what is the Arcein that Conan saw? Why do you think she seemed to know Felix, and how did Arcein’s Ignorance come to be? Also, what do you think Myosotis is, and why does Arcein want it?
Jo Michelle
Q. 9: Res's foreshadowing is really great. Little details that you only notice on reread. And snatches of dialogue or character actions that suddenly are WAY different when you know what's really going on.
RebelVampire
9) The careful choices in wording because command phrases are super OP. Like I would super hate writing a main cast who are a nobleman and a magician cause one ill choice of dialogue and poof, there goes continuity. So the fact its done so well is nice. 10) I'm assuming the Arcein we saw was basically a Horcrux. I assume by the nature of being mythical, Arcein is connected to the Gale in ways we don't understand. And the Gale is like big brother and is watching everyone, especially Felix. Idk what Myosotis is, but I'm sure Arcein wants it to destroy all nobleman or something like that. If Arcein isn't the pure evil one in this comic, I will eat my hat.
Respheal
But she was so helpful in saving Pascal~ :'3
RebelVampire
for now
unless pascal is locked away in a tower guarded 24/7 but the most elite soldiers, i will never believe Pascal is completely and truly safe in that world
Jo Michelle
But that's not safety. that's isolation, which isn't safe or healthy for any human.
There is no "complete and true safety." Life is risk.
RebelVampire
well put artemis in the tower too
then they can be alone together
and safe
also i said safe, i wasnt necessarily aiming for healthy there O_O
Jo Michelle
But unhealthy isn't safe.
And humans need more relationships in our lives than just one other creature.
And relationship always brings risk.
Respheal
also the alleged horcrux is strapped to his neck
Jo Michelle
I mean, there's risk.... and then there's..... risk.
that dang price
RebelVampire
i feel like you just insulted artemis by called her a risk as a relationship
secretly artemis had like 10 sugar daddy horses back home and spent all their money
conan is also her sugar daddy
literally cause he probably gives her sugar cubes
also see, to deal with arcein you just gotta cut the tower off from the gale. make a huge bubble area of ignorance
Mahotou
9) I totally understand why Res insisted on using full color. those auras need to be noticeable and different from each other. And its really niceeeee. I love the use of double-spreads because to me it feels like the stretching of a moment aka time slows down and you can just take in the scene. <3 Also the "scene in the amulet" is really creepy and spooky and what does it all mean!? /o\ after all this time, i feel we should expect foreshadowing in almost everything. xD 10) Arcein isssss 300 years old according to Pascal so the amulet is.... HAUNTED [or Rebel's Horcrux theory]. Maybe Felix had the amulet before and maybe they spoke together/concocted a plan together. Or maybe they disagreed? I have NO idea what Myosotis is in her context. Googling it, its a forget-me-not sooooo i guess she wants to be remembered? big shrug she seems dangerous. just look at her grin.(edited)
Respheal
nyahahahaha >:D
There is a whole lot of foreshadowing, and I appreciate what Jo said about "details you only notice on reread" xD Because a lot of the foreshadowing, I'm aiming it to be like it was staring us in the face the whole tiiiiiiiiiiiiiime
Jo Michelle
That's the best kind.
Other than the Horcrux thing, I have about zero formed ideas or theories on Arcein myself. That's a whole giant ominous question mark in my mind.
Mahotou
And also the amulet is called Arcein's Ignorance. I believe it was named for how it disconnects an Obligated from The Gale (and thus be Ignorant of the commands) but... Was Arcein Ignorant about something too? I wouldn't put it past Res for double meanings. Did Arcein do something Ignorant by making this amulet?
Kabocha
People are ignorant of Arcein, therefore her price of "Forget-Me-Not" is... to make her known? Remembered? avenged?
Sarai
((Forget-me-nots also mean true love, so make of that what you will))
Jo Michelle
What if the amulet was made by a Magician and a Noble who loved each other, and wanted a way to have a relationship that was free from Obligations?
Kabocha
oh That... that could have happened in this world...
Mahotou
i like that sound O:
Sarai
As far as what the "price" is, maybe Arcien's broken the seal that's locked away conan's memories?
Not so that they'll come back all at once, but she's triggered a sort of chain reaction so that very soon, he's gonna start remembering things
RebelVampire
QUESTION 11. What do you think are this particular comic’s strengths? What do you think makes this comic unique? Please elaborate.
QUESTION 12. Where has Felix been for most of Conan’s life? Why do you think he left Conan, and will Conan and Din actually be able to find him? Assuming they do find him, what do you think would even happen?
Sarai
Before I leave for vacation: 11. Worldbuilding is definitely one of Galebound's strengths. The decision to make this a tidally locked planet (and actually develop how that would impact and affect all facets of life) was a really good one, and it really adds a unique flavor to the story. From the color pallete of the outdoor scenes to the inclusion of the dark hour to the plot, it was enough to catch my eye and make me want to know more my first time reading. -bows to Res-
Respheal
:'D
will Conan and Din actually be able to find him
It's also a question of if half of that set even wants to find him
Jo Michelle
Con: he's my dad and I don't care. Din: He's my No. 1 target.
Kabocha
Galebound's strengths... Well, the sheer growth it's had from its start. Both in art and storytelling... While I know the story was prepping for its first WHAM moment, the art really caught up with it in a way that helped amplify that imo. Res has improved an incredible amount in a comparatively short amount of time
...I'm absolutely terrified to see how much the art will grow in 5 years, especially as the story intensifies. I get the feelin' a storm's brewing... And it's not the Gale.
RebelVampire
QUESTION 13. What are you most looking forward to in the comic? Also, do you have any final thoughts to share overall?
QUESTION 14. What aspect of the Obligation system in the story do you find the most interesting? What about it specifically interests you? Alternatively, what horrible implications are you hoping to see or not see regarding it?
RebelVampire
11) I think the strengths lie in the question and answer formula. While there are a lot of comics out there, in my experience not all of them offer good material for theorizing. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but can make for dull convos when talking about the comic elsewhere. Meanwhile, Galebound has tons of questions, tons of info spread out in various places, etc. So you get to get out the magnifying glass and look around for the answer. 12) I sincerely believe Felix left for Conan's own good to help him with something. Not that I think Felix is altruistically out to save the world or anything for sure, but I do think Felix would want to save his son. As for whether Conan and Din finding, honestly, I think it's more likely Felix will find them first XD We've established Din isn't great at the plans so Din is gonna bump into Felix when he least expects it. And be like "I'm in my underwear right now I'm not even ready for this."
keii4ii
13/14 I'm looking forward to meeting that one character SPOILER who is both a Noble and a magician, aka Person Doomed To Juggle Chainsaws For Life END SPOILER
RebelVampire
13) I am looking forward to people reading the next chapter so the galebound fandom collective can gasp in the same way that patrons get to gasp. 14) my favorite aspect of the obligation system is just the fact that it plays on language and contains loopholes. so you can constantly find new ways to use and abuse it based on how something is worded or how far you push the system. cause that gives it a good balance of being powerful but still being bounded by consistent rules.
Respheal
Oh yeah, the next chapter's gonna be all sorts of fun xD(edited)
Kabocha
The obligation system is certainly easily manipulated for anyone who might be looking For loopholes. Din is dangerous because he was taught to think >:D
RebelVampire
"Din is dangerous" is a complete sentence.
Kabocha
FAIR.
For every time Din subverts an obligation's expectations, he also manages to hurt someone he cares about.
RebelVampire
good job, din. this is why everyone loves you.
Jo Michelle
Mostly to himself and to people who care about him, I think.(edited)
Kabocha
Today I learned: Everyone in Din's life is a masochist(edited)
Respheal
For putting up with him?
Kabocha
Yeeeeeeeep.
Respheal
I almost feel like I need to come to his defense now
I certainly don't condone his actions, but......boy needs an adult
And by adult I mean therapist
Kabocha
He won't get better if nobody gives him good consequences
At the very least, the Ocean could have been like, "Oh hey, KNOCK IT OFF" and smacked him
RebelVampire
tbf even with good consequences theres no gurantee.
Kabocha
Fair! I mean, let's imagine the Galebound discord is right, and Lenora (the King's Magician) had a chance to try to set Din right. ...if he's still after his goal of revenge after some grade-A mom-ish intervention, he's not gonna be easily deterred.
And now I'm imagining Din... "My name is Dinigo Montoya... You killed my father. Prepare to die." (Only we can't be sure if Din's father died at Felix's hands....)
RebelVampire
these are excellent points.
to change din, i think he needs to wake up many days in a row and find out his entire life is a lie
Respheal
He lies to everyone else, but doesn't realize he lies to himself, too
Kabocha
I wonder how many lies we'll discover he's told himself over the years.
It's gonna suck! Din had all these good things he threw away in pursuit of revenge... He really can't figure out how to appreciate the things in front of him until they're taken from him.
RebelVampire
the biggest lie he told himself was that his name was din. really he was felix all along
Respheal
That's some next level self-hatred there
Kabocha
Oh no... So, if Din is Felix...
Respheal
I'm assuming he's also actually ten years older
Kabocha
.... ... That makes him ineligible to be the Shadowlord, sadly...
Respheal
Because otherwise.....eek
Oh?
Kabocha
Felix is the creator of the Shadowlord.
Not the Shadowlord itself.
Sarai
13) What am I looking forward to? The answer to all of these questions really XD
There's so much we don't know, and I'm really looking forward to snapping up all the information about the plot and its mysteries as it trickles in
also clawing the tragic backstories out of everyone's cold dead hands
Mahotou
13) I saw a list of character names and chapter names. I"m excited to meet EVERYONE. Get to fall in love with some and get to violently LOATH some. some sweet sweet hatred on fictional character. I agree with Rebel: Meanwhile, Galebound has tons of questions, tons of info spread out in various places, etc. So you get to get out the magnifying glass and look around for the answer. Sweet mind games and investigation. THERES SO MUCH DEPTH I CAN SWIM IN THIS LORE FOREVER. xD
14) Aspects of the Obligation system? Din's sweet mindbending/word-twisting comprehension ability of commands he received. How far can it go? How far DID it go in his loophole finding ability? But also, what can they achieve together? Conan and Din. If they can work together then there's SO MUCH possibility!
Respheal
Hehehehe I've got all the chapter names (and a lot of the character names) in the wiki :3c They are subject to change until they're actually written (I've already merged a couple chapters together), but I like having those up as sort of a teaser(edited)
As with many things, I didn't really realize I was setting up sort of a question/answer format until I got some momentum going, but I really enjoy how that's worked out xD
Mahotou
(They tease me hard)
Respheal
I am looking for a gif to use as my answer to 13 xD But no such luck
So meh I'll just go with chapters: Ch 6, Ch 14, Ch 18 Those have some of the major turning points I'm most looking forward to :3c
And for question 14.....probably one of the more interesting things, from my perspective, is how the system came into being in the first place
-runs back into the spoiler cave-
Mahotou
LORE/ORIGIN STORY
:partypascal:
Sarai
14) the thing I like about the system is how simple it seems, yet how absolutely bone-chillingly horrible it is when you give it a little thought
It really is a wolf in sheep's clothing
Sarai
Like, when it was first introduced my first thought was "wow this is really constricting and an awful lot of angst over a magic system that can't be used that much"
But those implications hit you like a narrative 2 by 4
Respheal
If I manage to get the book published, that's the sorta quote I want on the dust jacket
RebelVampire
Actually I change my answer
I'm most looking forward to Felix
so we can learn hes not awful
RebelVampire
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Name your top ten characters from ten different fandoms and then tag ten people
Thanks to @infinitelymarvel for tagging me! I can’t come up with nearly that many, but this looks fun, so here we go!
Marvel- Loki, Thor, Valkyrie, Peter P, Bruce, Shuri, Wanda, Tony, Okoye, Bucky
The Office- Dwight, Pam, Jim, Michael, Angela, Kevin, Stanley, Ryan, Meredith, Andy
B99- Rosa, Captain Holt, Jake, Amy, Terry, Boyle
Bendy and the Ink Machine- Alice, Boris, Bendy
Harry Potter (I only watched the movies but I’m running out lmao)- Hermione, Harry, Ron, Luna, Draco, Neville, Dobby, Fred, George, Ginny
Crimson Peak (it’s only one movie but I’m counting it)- Thomas, Edith, Alan, Lucille, Mr. Kushing, Mrs. Kushing, Enola, Finley
The Hunger Games- Katniss, Rue, Prim, Peeta, Johanna, Finnick, Gale, Annie, Clove, Effie
A Series of Unfortunate Events (I’m really running out and these books were my favorite when I was younger)- Violet, Klaus, Sunny, Aunt Josephine, Isadora, Duncan, Jerome, Fiona, Kit, Mr. Poe
Fran Bow (is there a Fran Bow fandom? who knows but I love the game)- Fran, Mr. Midnight, Itward, King Ziar, Palontras, Dr. Dern, Mia, Clara
It- Bev, Ritchie, Eddie, Bill, Ben, Stan, Georgie
There it is! I’m not sure if some of them even have a fandom but I like them so oh well.
I tag:
@notfandomaddict
@wethepotterheads0214
@lesbianismylastname
@azepci
@addictedtodinosaurs
@its-sappho-bitch
@a-gay-woman
@festivealyssa
@cunchishai
@beeofthelord
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Animosity - Trinity Ch. 8
Genre: Casefile | Fandom: The X-Files x The Fall x Sreetcar | Rating: Mature | Setting: Circa 2012. Canon compliant | Chapters: 1/6 of Part 2
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Trinity Part I
Chapter 1 - Perfume || Chapter 2 - Impression || Chapter 3 - Connection Chapter 4 - Delusion || Chapter 5-  Confrontation || Chapter 6 - Post Mortem
Trinity Part I
Prologue - Purgatory
Trinity: Part II Chapter I - Animosity
72 hours earlier
There is no cordial greeting or tussle for dominance when Scully and Stella reunite at the airport, no apology by either party for boundaries overstepped or trust betrayed. Stella offers only the bare bones of the latest murder, a brusque report of her phone conversation with the officer on the scene and the headlines from happenings at Riverview Psychiatric. Scully responds with her findings from the morgue, conveyed with such matter-of-fact concision that her findings become not only a breakthrough but a rebuke. Stella accepts the stack of notes offered, wordlessly acknowledging that Dana Scully has done what the task force could not. She has advanced the case with real, scientific data and become the opposite of the paranormal decoy they intended her to be.
But it is too soon for a truce and Stella is not yet willing to offer even a hint of an apology. Instead, she offers the only concession she is willing to surrender: her car keys. It is a tiny gesture, dropped wordlessly into Scully’s hands. The silent journey that follows is broken only by the rustle of neat, detailed autopsy notes transferring information from the observations of one woman into the theories of the other.  
They arrive at the station in a lightning storm of flashbulbs, the media scenting a serial case and waiting for something, anything, to shout about. There’s an anticipatory hush as they park and step out and then a murmur of disappointment. At least for now they are unknowns, nameless women in plain clothes, passing unseen in a setting where the important announcements are made by men with big badges and bigger guns. Stella smirks a little as this small act of everyday sexism shields them from the flurry of questions that buffets the essentially irrelevant uniforms who swing in seconds later. These officers accompany an unmarked vehicle, and an unfortunately loud police scanner reveals to the waiting press the arrival of a witness. The flashbulbs explode again, reflecting jaggedly on the tinted windows that hide Blanche. A uniformed officer approaches to open the door and Scully presses forward, instinctively knowing that exposing the fragile woman to this circus is a terrible idea.
But even as she processes the thought and begins to move, Stella is there, exerting her steely authority over the harried officers.
‘You. Take her to the back entrance. Now. And you two hold the press here. We have no comment at this time. Understood?’
Instinctively obeying her, the driver is on the move before Stella has finished speaking, whilst the two uniforms prevent the press from following. In the bustle, one man sneaks past, but Scully grabs his sleeve, distracting him for long enough that he misses Blanche’s removal into the building. By the time the pack of journalists work out what is happening, Scully is inside with Stella on her heels, the back of their heads caught only by the photographer closest to the door before they are safely inside the lobby. As the door seals shut, a gale of shouts starts up, demanding to know who they are, who was in the car, and whether or not New Orleans has a serial killer on its streets. Scully and Stella retreat into the depths of the building, putting fire doors and linoleum between them and all the questions that they don’t yet have an official answer to.
They halt at the double doors of the incident room, adrenaline spent and harsh reality awaiting. Another victim, another life lost, and maybe this time they could have stopped it. Scully feels again the ache of Mulder’s absence, the niggling feeling that with his belief, his instincts, he might somehow have ended things differently with Blanche the night before. Perhaps he might still have been with her when the incident began, and they they might somehow have saved the victim. At the least, they might have known more about exactly what Blanche had gone through before her screaming drew the doctors to her room. Scully knows it’s improbable but she’s seen more improbable things happen than most. Stella's doubts are more readily quashed, the emotional sting of perceived failure firmly subdued by the irrefutable fact that professionally she is beyond reproach. Every lead was followed, every avenue explored and there is no way to know if a different act at any point would have changed anything. Second guessing has no place in a police investigation and so, as the door swings away from her, Stella writes off the uneasy feeling in her belly as sleep deprivation or maybe hunger.
‘Gibson! Finally! It’s about time you got here! Do you have any idea how fucking impossible it is to explain a psychic witness to the Deputy Director of the FBI when the woman with all the facts is off on some girls’ trip out to the morgue?’
Special Agent Kyle Stanning’s bullish tone is matched by the set of his jaw and the tense angle of his shoulders. Striding across the busy incident room to collect them, his indignation cuts a path through file-shuffling rookies and morning-weary agents. He doesn’t look back to check they are following, pausing only to snatch a coffee from the breakfast spread before positioning himself at the head of the long table tucked in the back corner of the room and indicating they join him. As they arrange themselves side-by-side in the next seats down, Agent Stanning makes a show of reordering his notes and Scully feels a wave of irritation wash over her usually stoic companion. Before she can begin to work out why, the table fills, the chatter fades and Stella is once again the picture of composure.
‘Good morning everyone,’ Stanning begins before countering his own introduction with a bitter half-smile. ‘Actually, you know, it’s not been a very good morning. It’s been goddamn disastrous really. We have another body, another seemingly useless crime scene and to top it off, the press have caught on that something big is going down. All of which means our status has shifted. Yesterday, all we really needed was to catch the bastard. Today we need to catch him, catch him fast and look so good doing it that the headlines read “Heroic FBI Stops Sadistic Murderer in Record Time.” Anyone who doesn’t understand that can leave right now and I’ll have you reassigned to fertiliser checks. It’s that simple. Anyone want out?’
He pauses for effect. ‘Increased scrutiny also means that everything, and I mean everything, goes by the book. No hunch following, wisecracking to witnesses or mad tangents. Speaking of which --’ His eyes flicker to Stella. ‘We need to discuss the elephant in the room, or rather the witness in Room 2. Miss Blanche Dubois. Details concerning her presence here, her status within the investigation and her... theoretical “affliction” must - not - leave - this - room. If they do, you’ll all have me to answer to.’
An obedient murmur follows Stanning’s warning and people awkwardly shuffle and avoid eye contact. Stanning himself does not scan the room and instead fixes his eyes firmly on the side of Gibson’s head as she underlines something in her notebook, composed and cool. A hush settles back across the assembled taskforce, but he doesn’t shift his gaze and Stella does not return his attention. The silence stretches awkwardly, and the wall of suits seems to lean in as it becomes pointed, focussed on the seemingly one-sided stand-off at the head of the table.
For a moment, Scully is reminded of the way Mulder would scrutinise her as she read his reports, waiting for her to react, his eyes boring a questioning hole in the side of her head as if he could convince her to validate his mad theory by just looking at her hard enough. But the parallel is shattered when a frustrated Stanning admits defeat and speaks again, his bright tone not disguising the disapproval of his words.
‘Those of us who were here on time for the emergency briefing should be up to speed with last night’s happenings, so I’m going to skip over that. No point wasting time when DSI Gibson has some… important findings… which kept her away yesterday and this morning, to share with the room. If you’d be so kind Stella…’ His voice trails to a questioning drawl and one corner of his mouth curves in challenge.
‘Thank you, Kyle,’ Stella’s tone is as light as his was laden with meaning and she sits back in her chair resting her hands lightly in the stack of notes before her. Ever so subtly she rotates the chair towards Scully and the rest of the gathered agents, refocusing their attention squarely on herself and effectively dismissing Agent Stanning’s dramatic introduction as nothing more than the opening act for the true professional. Turning further she presents Stanning with the blank silk of her back and gestures at Scully with a warm smile.
‘For those of you who haven’t already met her, I’m very pleased to introduce Dr. Dana Scully who has been assisting me since her arrival yesterday morning. Dr. Scully was formerly with the bureau and has already been a tremendous asset to the investigation; her brief forensic inspection at the morgue, during which she identified concealed needle marks common to all the existing victims, has given us a much-needed focus in determining a murder weapon.’ An impressed ripple rushes round the table and for the first time since arriving at the station in Stella’s wake, Scully feels like part of a team rather than the poor, paranormal relation. The feeling doesn’t last long.
‘Yes. Very interesting findings, though I can’t find any record of Ms. Scully being signed into the morgue or issued with clearance to conduct-’ Stanning’s accusation is harshly curtailed by the impatient flick of Stella’s slim hand and the slightly raised crystal of her voice.
‘Doctor Scully was there under my orders and with the appropriate permissions issued by Dr. Quinn, the chief medical examiner. If the paperwork has yet to be filed, perhaps that might be to do with your demand that her entire staff put in overtime to process your latest crime scene as a matter of urgency. Either way - we have a lead. You’ll have your paperwork.’
Scully is not sure what surprises her more, Stella lying to cover for her or Stanning’s openly antagonistic interruption. He is now leaning as far forward in his chair as is possible without physically climbing on the table, an attempt to insinuate himself back into Stella’s orbit and reclaim control of them head of the table. Having failed to do either, he opens his mouth, presumably with a new plan of attack on the tip of his tongue, only to once again be brought up short by Stella’s unhurried, deliberate speech.
‘I can tell that Special Agent Stanning is dying to cross-examine me and Dr. Scully about our visit to Riverview Psychiatric yesterday and our observations there of Miss Dubois, the witness. I feel, however, that processing the influx of new evidence should probably take priority, so I’ll keep this brief; listening to Stanning and me negotiate our way through inter-agency bureaucracy is probably not the best use of everybody’s talents.’ A chuckle follows Stella’s pointed statement and stops short of Stanning who bristles behind her as she continues. ‘All that really needs to be said at this stage is that we are convinced Miss Dubois is in some way linked to the killer. We don’t yet know how exactly or what it might mean, but further investigation and an extended interview will surely reveal more useful information. I’ve prepared a brief round-up of the key points thus far, and Hannah has a copy for each of you to read at your convenience after we’re done here.’ She gestures at a slight brunette tucked unobtrusively in the corner who waves awkwardly at the sudden attention. ‘Now, unless anyone has any burning questions or Agent Stanning has any objections...’ She pauses barely long enough for her antagonistic colleague to draw breath, let alone gather his thoughts, and immediately continues, ‘...then we’re done here and I’ll see you all at this afternoon’s catch-up.’
Sweeping her notes under one arm as the noise level begins to rise, Stella turns to Scully and says, ‘Grab some breakfast and I’ll meet you in fifteen to prep for the interview. And Kyle?’ She doesn’t even make eye contact as she begins to walk away, raising her voice just loud enough to ring clearly across the noise of people returning to their work. ‘Why don't you come to my office and I'll get you caught up as quickly as I can - I agree that we don't want to waste any more time.’ There’s a momentary dip of disbelief in the hubbub as Agent Stanning sits frozen, and then a scramble to get out of his way as he rapidly reassembles his macho facade and storms after the petite, retreating figure of Stella Gibson.
As the door to the corner office slams loudly, Scully sits slightly staggered in the vacuum left behind them, wondering what in the hell she has walked into and whether, based on Stanning’s rising colour, she’ll soon be needing her expertise on the phenomenon of spontaneous human combustion. She’s halfway to the breakfast cart when the shouting starts.
‘Goddamnit Stella! We don’t have to like each other but do you have to make me look incompetent in front of my juniors as well as the Assistant Director?’
Kyle Stanning is six foot two of offended male ego and Stella is not in the mood for it.  She debates saying as much, but knows if he doesn’t vent his head of steam now there will be an uglier explosion in the near future, so she crosses her hands in front of her, leans on the edge of the desk and tries not to yawn. She’s so very, very tired.
‘You insist on bringing this outside doctor in to handle your weirdo witness. I sign it off, against my better judgement may I add, and then before I know it, the two of you are off together, progressing the case and I’m suddenly out of the loop? What happened to that partnership we toasted your first night in the city huh? Where was that Stella Gibson when I was getting my ass handed to me by AD Gilmore for not knowing what the fuck was happening in my own investigation? And since when do you decide what we do and don’t discuss at briefings? Are you really that offended by what I said that night to need to question everything I do? You know how these places work Stella! Reputation! And mine was doing pretty well for itself until you turned up and started throwing doubt at my ability to do my job. I thought working with you was gonna be a laugh. God was I an idiot.’ His bluster spent, voice lowering to a frustrated buzz he flops back in his chair and folds his arms.
She might be almost five thousand miles from Scotland Yard but it seems to Stella that the frailty of the male ego is a universal constant. She weighs her options and her energy and decides that this time correcting his outlandish conclusions is not the priority. Stella has an interview to conduct and for that reason, this time, Stanning earns a reprieve.
‘Kyle, if you’re quite finished with the dramatics then I can catch you up on this loop you seem so concerned with being out of. I called you from the car yesterday. You knew as much as I did at the point of last night’s alert, Dr. Scully and I weren’t scheduled to meet until this morning, until the circumstances changed. That’s all there is to it. That and a murderer’s crappy timing.
You and I agreed before I even landed that we’d keep investigating this in our own ways, share our intel and stay in touch and that’s all I’m trying to do. Things like last night catch us all off guard! It wouldn’t have mattered how much you knew, the AD was going to react badly to another victim. Besides, I’m sure if you really felt under pressure, you’d have made it clear the gap in communication was my fault…?’ Stella pauses and Stanning has the decency to look embarrassed, confirming her suspicion that he has already thrown her under the bus to save his own ass. She manages not to roll her eyes at his predictability before continuing in a tone neutral enough to placate even the most inflamed ego… or the most frustrated one.
‘As for your team? I’m pretty sure none of them had any idea there was tension between us until your little display this morning. Honestly I wasn’t aware of it either. We’re adults and I thought the issue was closed. If, however, you can’t handle the non-drama of our deciding not to sleep together after a couple of drinks, then I think we do have a problem. Knowing that something so insignificant can shake things so dramatically, I’d put the chances of us solving this case successfully at approximately zero. And I don’t think you want that. So shall we put all of that,’ Stella waves a hand in his general direction, unable or unwilling to verbalise what exactly about him she finds fault with, ‘firmly in the past where it belongs? Surely we can at least agree on that?’
Stanning looks ready to argue but is smart enough to recognise in the set of Stella’s shoulders and the measured cool of her voice that she has offered him an olive branch. She’s so far maintained a neutral expression but her eyes are steel-solid and unforgiving, telling Stanning that if he argues, Stella is not above rescinding her offer and making things increasingly uncomfortable for him. Outmanoeuvred, he nods curtly.
‘Fine. I guess I was a little… stressed… this morning,’ Stella fights to keep her disbelieving eyebrow under control, ‘But can you blame me? Last night was a helluva night and you walked in so cool and collected…well it threw me.’ Stella wonders why men always find the ability of women to function after a setback so hard to process; the lack of tears or hysteria that they expect from their own sex seems to unsettle them when it manifests in their female colleagues. Stanning seems to expect a response to this concession, maybe a pat on the head for his begrudging acceptance his second chance, and when he doesn’t get one he stumbles on. ‘So, what exactly did the good doctor find that we missed?’
Stella flips open her folder and starts to go through the photographs and notes that Scully handed over, equally thankful for Stanning’s instinct for self-preservation and her new consultant’s meticulous record keeping. The catch-up is mercifully brief, affording Stanning few opportunities to put his foot any further in his mouth, and Stella escapes without the facade of politeness she has pasted over her gathering irritation cracking. When she emerges, the incident room is mercifully quiet and for a few blissful minutes she is able to sit at a desk and marshall her thoughts.
Something about Blanche Dubois is niggling at her. Something that doesn’t add up… doesn’t fit. These dreams she’s having must be coming from somewhere, dreams always do. Stella’s own dream diary is a complex web of connections made and scenarios unravelled in ways that her waking mind cannot fully comprehend. If that was all Blanche was claiming then a few sessions with a psychologist would likely unlock whatever buried experience was causing her to dream their case. It should be that simple.
It would be, except for the fact dreams are never regular and they don’t arrive on schedule. The human mind is suggestible; it can be influenced by drugs, by conditions, such attempts endlessly studied and quantified, but it can't be programmed to dream to order. And yet it seemed, somehow, impossibly, Blanche Dubois is doing precisely that, receiving transmissions, across town, on a murderer’s wavelength. As if synchronised like clockwork to their crimes, Blanche views the macabre scene in her mind while the real action goes on elsewhere.
Despite herself Stella shivers. There must be an explanation, a logical one, one that will suddenly stumble into the light of their investigation. They just need to find it.
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”THE TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY” (1991) Review
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”THE TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY” (1991) Review Seven years following the release of the 1984 movie, ”THE TERMINATOR”, James Cameron wrote, produced and directed the first of three sequels called ”TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY”. Like its predecessor, the film starred Arnold Schwarzenegger and Linda Hamilton. It also became one of the most highly critical and successful action films of the 1990s.
Although released in 1991, the movie is set in 1995 – eleven years after the first one. John Connor (Edward Furlong) is now ten years old and living in Los Angeles with foster parents. His mother Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton) had been preparing him throughout his childhood for his future role as the leader of the human Resistance against Skynet. Unfortunately, was arrested after attempting to bomb a computer factory and sent to a hospital for the criminally insane under the supervision of Dr. Silberman (Earl Boen), the psychiatrist who had examined time traveler Kyle Reese (Michael Biehn) in the first film. Skynet sends a newly advanced Terminator, a T-1000 (Robert Patrick) that assumes the identity of a police officer, back in time to 1995 to kill John. Meanwhile, the future John Connor has sent back a reprogrammed Terminator (Arnold Schwarzenegger), identical to the one that attacked Sarah, to protect his younger self. Like the first film, ”TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY” is a thrilling and tense action film that made breakthroughs in the area special effects in film. And like in the first film, Cameron and his co-writer, William Wisher Jr. (sans Gale Anne Hurd, who only served as a producer for this film), created a story that centered around a future cyborg sent back in time to prevent a certain John Connor from ever becoming the leader of the Human Resistance against the future self-aware computer system, Skynet. Perhaps I should have said one of the storylines. Thanks to information garnered by young John’s Terminator protector, the Connors learns that the man most directly responsible for Skynet's creation is Miles Bennett Dyson (Joe Morton), a Cyberdyne Systems engineer working on a revolutionary new microprocessor that will form the basis for Skynet. This particular storyline lead to one of the film’s more interesting scenes that feature Dyson’s reaction to the consequences his work and a great performance by Joe Morton. Another favorite scene featured the Terminator’s first rescue of John Connor from the T-1000 that had been sent to kill the latter. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s interactions with Edward Furlong not only provided some laughs in these scenes, but also a great deal of poignancy, as the two quickly form an immediate bond. If I have to name one sequence that struck me as the movie’s pièce de résistance, it had to be the one that featured John and the T-800’s attempt to rescue Sarah from the Pescadero State Hospital, during one of her escape attempts. The entire sequence began with John convincing his T-800 savior to rescue his mother from the mental hospital in case the T-1000 came after her. John’s decision came at a time when Sarah decided to make her own escape after Dr. Silberman had rejected her request to receive a visit from her son. This exciting sequence culminated in a bizarre moment that featured Sarah’s first terrified glimpse of the T-800 coming to her rescue. By this time, the T-1000 had arrived at the hospital, killing anyone who stood in its way. This is probably one of the finest action sequences I have ever seen on screen in the past decade or two. And it is not surprising that it is the one sequence that many recall when speaking of the movie. The movie had received a great deal of accolades for its special effects. Did it deserve it? In regard to the Industrial Light & Magic’s design of the T-1000, I would say yes. As for Stan Winston’s effects, I thought he did a good job. But I could find nothing to get excited about. The movie also featured some pretty solid performances from the cast. Arnold Schwarzenegger gave a better performance in this film, considering that he was allowed to project more emotion than he did in the 1984 film. This is not surprising considering that the T-800 he portrayed in this film got to learn a great deal about human emotions from the 10 year-old John. Robert Patrick found himself in the same as Schwarzenegger was in the last film – portraying a remorseless and efficient killer with little emotion. And frankly, I found him just as scary. I had commented earlier on Joe Morton’s performance in a very important scene featuring his character, Myles Dyson. Not only do I stand by my comments, I would also like to add that I was impressed by his acting altogether. It was nice to see Earl Boen reprise his role as Dr. Silberman, the police psychiatrist who had examined Kyle Reese in the first film. My only gripe is that the movie never mentioned his first meeting with Sarah, back in 1984. Linda Hamilton had certainly wowed many fans of her transformation of the Sarah Connor character. In this movie, her Sarah is a tough and ruthless woman determined to ensure her son’s survival at any costs. And from the moment the camera first focuses upon her doing arm lifts inside her hospital cell, the audience gets a strong idea on how much Sarah had changed. But for me, the movie belonged to Edward Furlong, the first actor to portray future Human Resistance leader, John Connor. Furlong was around 13-14 years old at the time. And he did a superb job in combining the different aspects of the 10 year-old John’s personality – the child who had clung to his T-800 protector as a father figure, the bold and wayward delinquent that robbed from ATM machines and the tough street kid taught to survive by his high strung mother. It is not surprising that Furlong ended up winning both a Saturn Award and a MTV Movie Award for his performance. Is ”TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY” perfect? No. In fact I have more than a few “quibbles” about the movie. Let me start with my first problem with this film . . . Linda Hamilton. Yes, I realize that I had complimented her performance in the previous paragraph. There were some positive aspects to it. But it also annoyed me. I had read that it was Hamilton who suggested that Sarah Connor become psychotic in the intervening years after her encounter with the Terminator in 1984. Frankly, I wish to God that Cameron had NOT taken her advice. I realize that fans loved this new aspect of Sarah’s personality. I did not. I saw no reason to turn her into a borderline psychotic in order to make her seem tough. And the movie never really explained why after so many years, Sarah had mentally gone around the bend. My second problem with the movie centered on the T-1000. I had no problem with Robert Patrick’s performance. I did have a problem that the movie’s main villain managed to disappear from the screen for nearly an hour. After Sarah, John and the T-800 managed to evade him following Sarah’s escape from the mental hospital, he simply disappeared, while they a) headed south toward the U.S.-Mexico border and then b) returned to Malibu and met Myles Dyson; and c) helped Dyson steal the central processing unit(CPU) and arm of the 1984 Terminator.. At least 45-50 minutes had passed before the T-1000 appeared on the screen again. And my biggest problem with this film centered around the finale and the T-1000’s attempt to use Sarah to capture and kill John. Why do I have a problem with this entire sequence? It was TOO . . . DAMN . . . LONG!! It was too long. Why did Cameron forced the audience to watch the T-1000 chase down and attempt to kill John for nearly a half hour? It was not necessary. And why on earth did Sarah believe or even hope that following the destruction of the CPU, the old Terminator’s arm and the 1995 T-800’s sacrifice; Judgment Day may have been averted? She had proof standing next to her that it would happen – namely her son, John. If they had really averted Judgment Day, John would cease to exist. Without Judgment Day, Kyle Reese would never have a reason to travel back to 1984 and meet Sarah Connor. Do not get me wrong. I enjoyed ”TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY” a lot. It was a first-rate continuation of the original movie’s plot that involved one time traveler trying to prevent John Connor from becoming the Humans’ resistance leader and another time traveler sent to act as a protector. And in this movie, the protagonists also try to prevent Judgment Day. But there were times when I felt that its reputation as one of the finest science-fiction films ever made is overrated. I did not care for the psychotic turn of Sarah Connor’s character. The T-1000 managed to disappear from the story longer than necessary. In fact, the showdown between the Connors, the T-800 and the T-1000 dragged the film’s last half hour. But I would still recommend this movie to anyone who asked about it.
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Honestly it is SO refreshing to have someone on my dash who loves Gale Hawthorne because - while if I'm completely honest, I've never really been THAT obsessed with THG - I feel like I'm surrounded by Everlark shippers and Gale haters everywhere and I've never really connected to Peeta OR Everlark and it's so tiring to be basically forced into silence about my opinion because none of my mutuals agree with me about Gale and I'm worried they'll judge me or smth because I have the "Wrong Opinion"
Nonny, have a Gale stan solidarity high five from me!
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I’m so sorry you feel cornered in your views.  When the tide of Correct Opinion is againstyou, Liking A Thing™ can be pretty lonely. I spent a long time prowling the fringes ofTHG fandom trying to reconcile my Gale stanning with the received wisdom thathe is a war criminal, a child killer and just generally The Worst.  So believe me when I say, I get you.
Listen, it is totally OK to like a thing just because you likea thing. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for liking something. Neverthelessshould you ever decide to throw off the shroud and openly stan Gale I reckonthere are some pretty good reasons for liking him.
Firstly, Gale shares many of the characteristics that peopleadmire in Katniss.  He’s brave, caring, kind,ingenious, fierce, resilient, resourceful and loyal and he has a dry sense ofhumour that would shrivel even Bellamy Blake. Everyone forgets that Gale’s faults – chief among them his tunnel visionand inability to empathise with his enemy – are rooted in love.  He loves his family.  He loves Katniss.  He loves Prim. He loves his people. Need Iremind everyone that Gale forfeits a chance to run away with the girl he loves tostay back and protect others who couldn’t protect themselves? The hate that grewin him was forged from the horror of the injustice wreaked upon him and hispeople for generations. Which is why I find it particularly irritating that theblame for Katniss’s fate is placed solely on Gale’s shoulders rather than where it belongs– on the Capitol.
And look, I can’t talk about Gale without talking about hisrelationship with Katniss too. I shipped them pretty hard (SPOILER: THIS ISALSO OK AND DOESN’T MAKE YOU A TERRIBLE PERSON DOOMED TO A LIFETIME OF SHITTYRELATIONSHIPS), but I don’t think you have to ship them to appreciate theirdynamic. For me, Gale is a symbol of who Katniss really is vs what the Capitolwants/perceives her to be (which – don’t kill me Everlark friends – is what Peetarepresented to me). Gale is her touchstone, especially in the first book, whenshe is drowning in this sea of artifice for the benefit of the Capitol. Becauseof Gale and Prim, she remembers who she is. And, jeez, the significance of thefact that her ultimate fate – changed forever by war – does not include Gale orPrim is not lost on me.  Katniss has toforge a new life and a new identity based on her new reality (ALSO FINE) butthat comes at the cost of her old securities and touchstones.
Excuse me while I cry forever.
Lastly, and this is an important one, I engaged most with Galebecause he has the most agency out of any of the three main characters. That isa gift that Suzanne Collins does not bestow on Peeta or even Katniss. I freelyadmit that rebellious personalities appeal to me in life and literature – I admirepeople who question established orthodoxies and who agitate for change. But honestly,who wouldn’t rather read about a character that is actively trying to changetheir fate, vs one that isn’t able to or just doesn’t? Throughout the books, Galeis a ticking time bomb of rage and frustrated ambitions, and from the moment heis presented with an opportunity he grabs it with both hands. As a reader, Iwanted to know what he was going to do with this opportunity and as a result Iwas more interested in that than whatever horror would “happen” next to Peeta orKatniss.
(Disclaimer: I love Katniss, but I have an ongoing issue with howlittle agency she has in the story – and I think that is the point. Her mostglorious moments are those where she is Gale, where she sticks two fingers upat the establishment and doesn’t play along. Rue’s funeral is among those, asis her decision to join the rebellion).
I’m not sure you wanted/expected an 800-strong word vomitwhen you sent this ask. But as usual, once I start writing a love letter toGale Hawthorne things get out of hand.
TL;DR I got you, Nonny. 
And I’m so sorry it took so long to answer. I’ve been on aself-imposed hiatus.
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