#Eclipse basically did the same thing with Sun and Moon
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llamaisllama777 · 29 days ago
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The (1st)Jester and Eclipse
Ruin + The Joker and Eclipse + Slade/Deathstroke
More for my TSAMS x BATFAM AU
Meet the two arch enemies of Crescent and SolarFlare
More details underneath
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Alt Eclipse look. The poncho is based on the shirt Ballora gave him in EAPS. Under his mask, he's missing an eye after a fight with SolarFlare and Crescent, where Sun destroyed his eye in the fight, and he's never been able to repair it.
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His mask, which is heavily inspired by Slade/Deathstroke's mask, has hooks on it to hang off his rays.
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His boots are black, red, and gold and have a little eclipsed sun symbol on them.
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Jester may not be as lethal as the Joker in the comics
(Ruin here takes more of after Ceasar Romaro's Joker from the Adam West Batman show. He's a prankster, not a killer)
But that doesn't mean Ruin/Jester isn't packing some heat. He has special X-ray glasses that allow him to see through walls so Crescent and the others can't sneak up on him, and he also has a cannon gun that can shoot confetti or actually cannon balls.
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He's also packing a non-lethal joybuzzer that, while shocking, just renders the opponent unconscious for a while. It causes a system restart.
(like a phone basically)
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Full pictures side by side.
I'm really loving this au and will continue to make more for it. I already have a few ideas for the other heroes and villains in this batfam au.
I do plan on making Ruin become Two-face as the story progresses but for now he's the Joker.
Let's just say it will be sad when he turns into Two-face. That's gonna be a lot of people's darkest days when that happens
@br41nr0t-101
I got more for ya. Thanks for being a fan of this au. It means a lot to me. : )
By the way Ruin's suit is inspired by This Joker
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2004s The Batman Joker. I love the straight jacket suit he's got going on.
Ruin's suit colors are orange, green, and purple, while Eclipse's dark red, black, and gold
I will color these pictures one of these days.
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vacantfields · 1 year ago
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Things Are Better AU MASTER POST!
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Tags used: Things Are Better AU | TAB AU | TAB AU Answers | TAB AU Writing | TAB AU Sun | TAB AU Moon | TAB AU Eclipse |
AO3: https://archiveofourown.org/users/vacantfields
TAB AU: Singing Voices Spotify Playlist
YOU ARE ALLOWED TO: Draw, Write, etc with these guys! (ASK ABOUT NSFW !)(AND remember to credit me!!)
(I will attempt to use the tags as best as i can!! Do also note that things can change in this AU but this is the best place you can go look honestly)
[ In this AU, Sun, Eclipse, and Moon have gotten new bodies, some that are way more humanoid. Technically, they are not animatronics anymore, but the Pizzaplex they live at still deems them as such! They are also all separated; most importantly, THEY ARE NOT BROTHERS. They are best friends! (Sun and Moon, however, seem closer than that.) ]
[ It is set in the 20XX! The date doesn't matter. ]
[ The Location of this thriving Pizzaplex is in the heart of a big city, and the rest of the animatronics have gotten slight upgrades but have remained the same. Sun and Moon still run the Daycare. Eclipse stands as the security guard for the Daycare (Moon also still goes on patrols, as well). They live in the Daycare too! The layout is (sorta) the same as the original Pizzaplex. The boys can leave the place, but they must tell their handler or whoever runs the place how long they will be gone. The virus from the game is not here, BUT a virus is in this! It's highly aggressive and should be avoided at all costs. Moon used to have a virus, but most got removed from him when they moved into these bodies, although some of the virus remains in his code. Eclipse has a different virus embedded in him, and he cannot remember how he acted before; it basically wiped his personality, so now he's somewhat unpredictable. ]
They have humanoid/android bodies
The original body along with their personality chips were created in the middle of the 90s
Moon got his virus in 95 or so but they couldn't fully remove it as they would have to reset him and thats a chore plus it wasn't too dangerous so they moved the guys into separate bodies and it fixed most of it
the story is set in 20XX
The location is in a big city
They have been in the new bodies for around 5 years
The fire, gregory, etc. Did not happen here!
The virus Eclipse was made by some people who wanted to use the animatronics to attack people and make sure that fazbear would shut down
They are not the same guys from the game BUT they do act a lot like them! (kinda)
They used to share a body (Eclipse just being a security setting in them)
Moon has remains of a violent virus
Eclipse has the virus embedded in his code
Eclipse cannot remember who he was before the virus
The virus is not sentient... OR... Is it?
Despite not having the virus, Sun is not handling being alone in his head. His unstable and unused security program snaps in when he has breakdowns and makes his head think it's Moon talking to him.
Sun was the first personality chip then it was Moon and then Eclipse
Other facts
The virus does NOT like the color red on bodies. (Do not wear a red shirt or anything alike that around Eclipse he will attack and KILL.)(Though if they care about you he will hold back from mauling)
They cannot eat BUT! They can taste things!
Their face plates can still spin
They can still use the wire to "fly" around if they wish
They have a secondary voice box that they use for when they talk with people outside of the Daycare/or go out!
In the Daycare they use the "Canon" voice
They can also perform at "Adult Nights" at the pizzaplex, which consists of them singing on stage while the adults drink and so on.
Moon is the only one who actively performs so you can catch him in the evenings on stage!
They are all very flexible... And they can dance (;
They can also talk with each other through a shared headspace (like a group chat)
The old body is stored somewhere in the plex
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⁺₊⋆ ☀︎ ⋆⁺₊ SUN ⁺₊⋆ ☀︎ ⋆⁺₊
He/They/We | 8'5" / 256cm | Daycare Attendant
[ Sun is a happy go lucky guy who hides a lot of his other emotions and sometimes they tumble in! He gets angry, he gets sassy, he gets upset, etc. !! ]
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Secondary Voice (singing):
Without A Whisper | Sleepless Deathbed | Reverie
(Invent Animate)
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⋆⁺₊⋆ ☾⋆⁺₊⋆ MOON ⋆⁺₊⋆ ☾⋆⁺₊⋆
He/They/We | 8'5" / 256cm | Naptime Attendant / Performer
[ Moon is your day to day gremlin. Crawling up walls and spider-walking across the floor in the darkness. Though he does easily get flustered if youre close enough to him! ]
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Secondary Voice (singing):
Secret Scream | That Death Cannot Touch | No Accusations
(The Black Queen)
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☾✴ ๋࣭ ⭑ ECLIPSE ☾✴ ๋࣭ ⭑
He/They/We | 9'4" / 284cm | Security for the Daycare
[ Eclipse is a wild card. You never know if you can trust what comes out of his mouth but he seems docile for now ]
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Secondary Voice (singing):
Broken Inside | Forevermore | Clouded Son
(Broken Iris)
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(Hopefully this made some sort of sense... I will probably edit here and there but (: !!)
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pineconedrop · 4 months ago
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More rambling lol
So with Solar killing the creator, the families reaction kinda bothered me ngl. Solar killed the creator out of anger, without telling anyone, which lead to huge consequences to him and the family. Just like Sun & Lunar. Except the family reacted differently to this. When Sun killed Bloodmoon, he ended up getting locked away by Moon, who heavily disagreed with the whole killing thing and just left him there. Sun later indirectly leads to Moon death. When Lunar killed Eclipse, he was basically separated from the family (the only person to really help him through that time was Solar, but multiple times throughout that, we see him alone in his apartment, so idk if Solar was really there all that much) and had to go on trial and was in huge trouble with the astrals. Yet when Solar kills the creator, the family doesn’t care? Like what happened to “don’t kill people guys.” And it can’t be that it’s because the Creator was bad and they all hated him. None of the family liked Bloodmoon, same with Eclipse. This show is really weird with when and when it isn’t okay to kill the bad guys. It’s okay for some people to kill others, but when others do it “OH NO, why would you do that? That was horrible.”
Also, quick question. Why did none of the family (except for Solar) check up on Lunar after he killed Eclipse? Like he was definitely not doing good and probably shouldn’t have been left alone, and yet no one was really there. Sun and Moon (well Nexus ig, but he was Moon at the time) never checked up on him for like anything. When he got attacked by Bloodmoon, neither of them physically checked up on him. We know that they cared because we saw that, but Lunar doesn’t. They just asked if he was okay to Earth and then never checked up on him. It’s stupid. It kinda feels like they never wanted him around, at least for Nexus. The dude would rather build a secret bodyguard to watch over Lunar, instead of y’know, inviting him to live with Sun and Moon and keeping an eye on him?! Like it makes sense that Lunar developed the whole “why should I help when it’s gonna be fixed in a week” thing, cause both Sun and Moon never really checked up on him when he was going through something. Only Solar and Earth did (as usual, the reward of best family members goes to them).
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crystalas · 1 month ago
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The Dad Alliance
This is a fanfic idea I have had for a while and finally decided to work on.
Based on the Sun and Moon Show, and Eclipse and Puppet Show, canon is fast and loose cos I want to let these dads and their broods be happy goddammit!!!
The Dad Alliance
Was it possible for a ghost kid to die of boredom? Andrew was starting to think it was, it had been over a month since Eclipse finally built his body and figure out a way for him to possess it. When Eclipse started to work on Jake and Andy’s body it came with a few issues; mainly it was because Andrew and Andy wanted the same body. After all it was their old body before the whole Stitch Wraith saga so naturally, they would want to reclaim some normalcy by having that, but they did not want to share the same appearances because hey how creepy would it be to suddenly have a clone of yourself living with you?
Eclipse had suggested that each boy gave him a list of desired features that they could add to give each other some individuality empathising on it being toned down stuff like skin blemishes like freckles and moles, different hair and eye colour, or hair styles “Not a Mohawk!” he had declared to which the boys groaned in annoyance. 
However, Eclipse had forgotten that Andrew and Andy were parallel versions of each other so even though the two had written their lists at different times in different locations they had somehow written the exact same list of features they wanted. Now both boys wanted these features and not their ‘plain’ bodies and Eclipse found himself back at square one with keeping the peace with these two squabbling dimensional twins.
It was Roxy that found a middle ground by suggesting that they compete for it through a racing game tournament, they would number the features on the list and play that number of races. So, for example whoever won race 1 would get to have the feature listed as number 1 in this instance it was having lighter brown hair. The result was two boys who could be mistaken for siblings but not clones of each other and because the boys were on equal playing levels they got an equal number of features.
That was a month ago and it had been a week since Jake and Andy finally got their bodies, Eclipse put their old body in storage and then an insane number of locks on it. Andy wanted to put it in the trash compactor and watch their prison be reduced to a trash cube, but Eclipse explained that the power source would probably level the pizza-plex and everything within five miles of it if they did that.
So, off to gather dust bunnies in storage it went.
Roxy helped the boys and Charlie to order stuff online to help make their rooms more homely and with Eclipse’s help with building furniture their rooms now looked less like a storage for lab equipment and more like a futuristic bedroom. Ballora naturally took them shopping for clothes which resulted in Eclipse dragging Ballora out of the mall after nearly maxing out the credit care and giving the kids more clothes than they knew what to do with most of which were too ‘high fashion’ to be used by anything other than super models.
But that was last week…now Andrew was bored and he knew the others were too, Eclipse had them doing stuff like Simon Says and bean bag toss to measure how well their bodies were doing but after a while those games get dull. 
“Right get your shoes on we’re heading out” Eclipse declared gruffly which all four perked up to.
“Outside? You mean outside, outside or outside as in out of the lab?” Andy asked.
“Outside, outside” Eclipse stated “We’ve done as much as we can in here for now I need to get some readings on how your bodies do outside of lab conditions”
There was a soft groan from them as they realised this was just another check-up; they understood that they had basically completed a whole-body transplant and Eclipse explained that he had added a lot of features to help them feel ‘human’ so it was understandable that they would need to take things slow.
However, what kid enjoys check-ups?
Eclipse opened a portal and ushered all four through, fully expecting them to be in an empty field or garden lot to see how they deal with dirt or something boring like that the kids were surprised when they saw that it was in fact a car park in a forest. What got their attention was they big gates that stated “Tumble wood Adventure Play” all of them stared at the sign as it slowly dawned on them where they were.
“I think this should be sufficient for seeing how your bodies handle more demanding tasks for your motor functions and balance. Maybe later we can look at other functions as well…” Eclipse muttered checking his readings to make sure they were synced to his computer in his head than in the lab, he glanced down to see Jake hugging his leg happily.
“Thank you thank you thank you!” he beamed, the solar model made an uncomfortable noise and patted Jake’s head with barely disguised affection.
“Right now, before we go in there’s one last thing I need to go over with you three in particular” he declared “While in this dimension animatronics are less uncommon so hopefully we won’t get as much flack as we do back home…”
Charlie looked at her feet sadly she still remembered being called a freak that time she went to the park nor anyone else’s confused stares when she left the Pizza Plex.
“However, what is Taboo in both worlds in human animatronics, there is a reason why Faz bear never just made themselves robot pop idol and called it a day and why even us Day Care Models look like we do. People get very upset when we approach Uncanny Valley levels of human appearance.” He explained “So if anyone asks you where your parents are just tell them that I am your au pair”
“You want us to tell them you’re a pear?”
“Au Pair” Eclipse corrected “It’s another word for nanny, but if anyone doesn’t buy it then give them my number and I’ll talk to them like that”
“Won’t they find it suspicious that our au pair and dad have the same voice?” Andrew demanded.
“Not Necessarily” Eclipse stated using his old Solar Flare Voice.
“You sound like a robot” Charlie giggled.
“I think that’s the point” Andrew exclaimed.
“With that out of the way” Eclipse stated “I think the usual rules apply out here, don’t get hurt, don’t get in fights, don’t break the rules or laws and NO MAGIC Charlie!”
“Aww”
With that said they went in and once past the entry gate the kids could see that this place was huge! There were wooden climbing frames of all sorts, some of them smaller for the little kids, others were big multi levelled climbing frames with zip lines, ladders, bridges that connect to several tree houses, several slides each looking more fun that the last. Heck it even had a wooden castle complete with a play moat which connected to a water play area. All of it made from wood and given a natural forest feel to it.
The boys were practically vibrating with excitement as they finally got to a gate to enter, as soon as they were in, they shot off. Charlie watched them go and glanced at Eclipse who had found a bench to sit at.
“What about me?” she asked.
“What about you?”
“Didn’t you say that this was to see how their bodies deal outside?”
“I can multitask” he stated “I can get my readings and take you guys somewhere fun to burn off some energy”
“You big softy” she chuckled.
“Shut up and go play!”
She did not need telling twice and was already making a beeline for the forest castle.
The Boys had run up to a rope bridge that went up into the nearest climbing frame, Jake and Andrew clambering up with the simple mission of getting as high up as they could. Andy stopped at the top of the rope bridge to look around merely taking in the view and fresh air after being trapped inside a box for months he was more than ready to enjoy every experience he got.
As he looked around, he saw other kids playing on the swings and parents racing after toddlers but he stopped when he saw…a faun?
No, it was a deer animatronic with purple ribbons in her hair and big green eyes who was skipping about looking at everything probably trying to think of where to start first, she then saw Andy and they locked eyes. She tilted her head in confusion.
Eclipse did say Animatronics were more common here and that she could very well be the mascot for this place she certainly fit the whole forest theme but it was what he heard her say next that made his skin go cold.
“You’re like me?” she asked.
Eclipse’s warning was still fresh in his mind, He remembered that most of the Pizza Plex Animatronics had a scanning feature so they can get people’s guest files, but Sunshine and Moonshine could use that feature to scan for injuries too.
Could this deer tell that he was not human? What would it do if they found out he is technically deceased? Kick him out? Give him to the authorities? Lock him away in a lab while they would poke and prod him to figure out how a human soul was in a robot body? He could feel his whole-body tense up at that idea, no never again. Eclipse may have them in a lab but he respected Andy’s need for space and did whatever tests Eclipse needed at his pace he understood that Andy did not like feeling trapped.
He then saw an animatronic that looked like it belonged in a pumpkin patch come up to her and they began to talk, Andy decided to use that as a chance to get away from the situation and clambered further into the tree house. He was going to get as far away from those two as possible and then find Jake and Andrew to warn them to stay away as well.
He had found a wooden tunnel that took him to the next tree house and was crawling through it when the entire thing juddered violently causing him to fall flat on his face. He looked down between the gaps of the planks only to be meet eye to eye with something glowing orange, it pulled back to reveal it was that same pumpkin moon model that had been with the Deer clinging to the bottom of the tunnel like a creepy spider. That would be alarming on its own if you did not also know that the tunnel was high up from the ground and no normal person should be able to reach it.
“Found you!” it beamed “We have questions!”
Andy bolted and he could hear the robot scrabbling behind him as he ran through the tree house, he saw flashes as the thing crawled past the small windows trying to beat him to the door, he froze for a second as it loomed in the door way, arms out to catch him.
“Why are you running?” it asked “We want to ask you something”
Remembering a move he saw in a video game he ran forward and then at last minute dropped to the floor and slipped right past under the robot. His legs and arms stung from the grazes he got from the dry wood but right now he was focused on getting away from that thing.
“Is this a game?” he heard it ask, “Okay I can play! I will give you a head start”
Now the pounding of his feet was tempered with the sounds of the pumpkin model cheerfully counting down from twenty as it watched him run, maybe it’s security feature and play programming had a glitch but he was not going to question his luck.
He bolted past other children who carried on unaware of his plight, he crawled through tunnels and clambered over climbing frames and anything else to just try and get some distance.
“Nineteen…twenty!” he heard it yell “Ready or not here I come!”
He had come to a platform with rope fence that was like a crow’s nest in the trees, he looked back and nearly threw up in anxiety when he saw the robot was heading his way with such unnatural speed crawling over play equipment like a hellish spider on a caffeine high. In his panic he glanced around before seeing the Zip Line that take them back down to the ground, he grabbed it and launched himself off as he zipped down, he swore he could feel that thing’s fingers graze the back of his neck.
But he made it to the bottom with a thud and looked up to see the robot staring down at him. He took off running again and saw Jake and Andrew come down a slide.
“Hey there you are!” Andrew shouted “Where the hell did you go?”
“We need to…” Andy started when he felt two large hands grab his waist and lift him in the air.
“FoUnD Yooooooou!” the moon model declared “now come with me”
Jake and Andrew stared in horror as this Pumpkin themed robot put Andy over their shoulder like a sack of potatoes and began to walk away. The boys found themselves frozen in terror as Andy was taken.
This was it; he thought as his mind began to race in sheer panic, he was only free for two weeks and now he was going to trapped again, locked away again this time he will not have someone else to talk to he will put in another box alone, trapped, blind, unable to feel, touch or hear anything. Trapped, unable to die unable to leave unable to breathe. Trapped, trapped, trapped, TRAPPED.
Andy was on the verge hyperventilating but as tears began to streak down his face he found the strength to scream.
“DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!”
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derpiedoxie · 2 years ago
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Thing I did on a magma with a friend!
I have no idea if this is sun, moon or eclipse but like, they all basically look the same in the dlc so just decide for yourselves which one it is
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theallianceofcelestials · 3 months ago
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Hi there!
I saw that you are/were friends with the creators of Stellar Remnants and as someone who knows one of them irl and has heard their non-stop yapping about your stuff I took it upon myself to ask what that little rat is too scared to ask!
What would the SEA Family’s reaction be to the relationships developed within Stellar Remnants?
Also, to give some relationship breakdowns that I actually do surprisingly have permission to share from CoastxlWater’s themself:
You don’t see much of the celestials in the main fic, but from my friend’s rambles about the what-ifs and oneshots series the Remnant Family do infact think about the celestials a good bit to where there are technically relationships
Eclipse hates moon basically, but a good chunk of that hate stems from fear and the knowledge of knowing Moon won’t give up. Since as we know, Eclipse was infact once Moon and so he knows how the bot would act.
Solar Flare would infact do the same thing it did to KC to Moon if it ever gets its claws on him, you don’t mess with Flare and especially not its father.
Bloodmoon wants to basically harass everyone in the celestial family. But due to Eclipse’s creative threats and tracker planted in them they haven’t tried anything yet, or atleast that is what Coastxl has told me about the upcoming prompts.
No one in the Remnants family hate Sun so to say, but no one exactly likes him. Eclipse and Bloodmoon with their distrust of the sunny animatronic and Solar Flare carries its own opinions on Sun.
Eclipse still cares about Lunar, and Bloodmoon does as well but neither would say they like Lunar, because they don’t. Surprisingly it’s Flare to have the major problem here, because from what Coastxl has told me Flare doesn’t appreciate the kids actions. Flare apparently has strong opinions on why Lunar was wrong to turn on Eclipse, especially because Moon’s own treatment of Sun. So Flare is the one who mainly dislikes Lunar.
Surprisingly no one in the family have strong opinions on Solar, and apparently one line Coastxl does have planned for a future chapter is, “Solar? I don’t care for Moon’s little lap dog, I mean yeah he helps Moon and all but they are family who usually treat each other right so it’s understandable, though Solar is a pushover. People pleaser, even.” - Eclipse
Same as Solar no one has strong opinions on Earth, they all kind of just ignore the cheerful ‘sister’ and only plan for Moon, Sun, Solar, and Lunar ever finding where they are. Or really Eclipse is the only one planning and worrying, Bloodmoon and Flare are just trying to get Eclipse to stop worrying.
One thing they all have in common though is a hatred for Monty, and yes that does include Bloodmoon. No one really likes Monty.
I think their relationships with KC are shown well enough in the making fic, Coastxl said they might try developing the hatred and fear more through more night terrors and maybe even a few complete group hallucinations, so they do have a deep fear of KC is all I’m saying.
And before you ask, “how do u know u have permission to say this if they don’t know about you having all of their socials and links to the stuff they like?” Well, they said and I quote: “hm? Oh yeah you can spoil it if you want it’s not like it’s some huge surprise or anything- oh your asking this for possible future blackmail huh? Well fuck you I could give less of a fuck about you spoiling this, HAH”
I dunno if we're on friend levels yet, though tbf I don't really do any of these online friendship things often thanks to crippling anxiety 👍
Also they didn't shut up about my stuff? :0 Somehow I'm still surprised people seem to like my stuff, haha
Also, if anyone tries murdering me in my sleep because of this post, I'm throwing you under the bus <3 /silly
Weeeeeeeell, SEA and SR are pretty different relationshipwise, which would be a surprise to the SEA family.
Solar Flare and Eclipse wouldn't be able to imagine a father-son relationship between themselves, though Solar Flare would understand Flare's attachement to Eclipse, because it's also pretty attached to its own. Even if differently.
Killcode would be greatly saddened there's such a shitty version of himself, and he'd be torn between trying to fix their opinion of him and staying away, if only because he knows more now about trauma and those sorts of things. He too wouldn't want to see the people who caged him and his family in, so he can understand why the Remnants family would want to stay away. Doesn't mean he wouldn't be very tempted to change their opinion tho
Bloodmoon would find how Flare is so much younger an amusing difference they'd use to tease their own brothers. It's too good an opportunity to waste. They just have to do it.
Lunar would be freaked by the dislike of that Solar Flare, used to his brother being reliant, protective, quietly loving and most importantly, patient and always there. He wouldn't know what to do with a version of them that's more hostile with him.
Moon would once again be surprised while also not about just how much he sucks. He wouldn't blame the family though, because he knows he's awful. He would feel more comfortable staying away.
Sun would take one look at it and shrug. He can't do anything, it's none of his business, if those people want something they'll approach each other and work out their issues. He's more than aware family can be complicated and there can be lots of resentment and hostility and dislike, especially with everything that's going on. He also wouldn't be offended by someone looking down on him, because he's aware at first glance he really does appear pathetic.
Over all, the SEA family is surprised, sad and disappointed by the state of the Stellar Remnants dimension, but not like they can do much about it. They have to decide to change their relationships if they want to be something different. Although they'd prefer if these people didn't try murdering each other
(Also, SEA Eclipse thinks the four arms are cool and wishes he was built like that too. Everyone else is just glad the sleep-deprieved fuck doesn't have another pair of hands to overwork himself with)
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bloo-the-dragon · 9 months ago
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out ooffff curiosity
in quite a few fics with your mer au with eclipse its frequently referenced that he has "episodes"
what happens during those episodes? is there something specific that triggers them or is it something stress induced? does ruin have any ways to help or does he try to stay out of the way until its over?
*cracks knuckles* Prepare thineself for a text wall lmao
So first of all i'm gonna give some context here- Eclipse to put it shortly has the robot equivalent of brain damage. His code is pretty messed up which affects his behaviours and other side effects. This is a result of him having been decommissioned (basically killed) when he was still 'sun and moon' and then brought back again as a mish-mash of both codes.
He was not intended to have a long work life, his expiry being estimated for about 2-3 years and this is primarily due to the fact that his specific model/ai was always intended to function with two ai - so if we look at the eclipse (solar) and lunar from my runaways au, they are a paired ai and if one was to die the other would eventually follow.
Anyways so during his worklife Eclipse's already unstable code was messed up even more due to electrocution from tasers by his owners plus his natural slow deterioration from not having a counterpart (before meeting Ruin which while saved his life, did not fix all the issues). Only reason he survived as long as he did was because he is a mix of two previously paired ai which helped extent his initial lifespan (and the fact he's a stubborn ass)
Ok context concluded i'll now answer the details:
What happens during these episodes?
Moodswings, seizures and at worst crashes. Almost always these result in some form of memory loss. The moodswings tend to be the most common and they can make him act out/say things in an various ways, most often aggressive/angry ones and he doesn't always remember them when they occur due to the memory files being corrupted.
The seizures he has tend to be the absense type though sometimes he may experience a tonic/atonic one. Unlike the crashing in which he experiences a full shutdown and reboot (which he never remembers) the seizures at most can cause soft reboots and minor memory loss.
What are the Triggers?
Stress is the primary cause, but they can happen without warning even if he is feeling fine. The frequency of these episodes in this context is thankfully not too often but usually occur at least a couple times a month.
The immediate causes though? Electricity. The sight of it and the sound of it (this can include thunderstorms but they arn't as bad unless he directly sees the lighting flash in the sky) this is due to traumas of being electrocuted. Also unexpected physical contact like being roughly grabbed or otherwise touched without warning, especially if near his neck/head. This is also related to the traumas with electricity.
How does Ruin help, if he can? Or does he stay out of the way?
Ruin helps however he can when he can! If Eclipse is having an angry moodswing, he will keep out of his way and try not to make too much noise but keeps a close eye just in case it does turn into a seizure. If it's a more depressed/sad one then he'll stay by Eclipse side offering nuzzles, preens and lots of reassurances.
If Eclipse does have a seizure (absense) Ruin will try to guide Eclipse either to the sofa or bed (or floor if nothing else) - this may not always work but Ruin will stay with him regardless, talking with him until Eclipse comes out of it again.
If its a tonic/atonic one and Eclipse collapses, Ruin would attempt to catch him or cushion his fall and would remain with Eclipse until he woke up. Basically using the same methods of talking/cheeping til he does.
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brittle-biscuits · 2 months ago
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Why did I stay up late at night just to do this.
Basically: a concept of bags is that to me their twisted form usually reflects a character’s deepest desire for them but in a very twisted way. Lemme explain the designs here in alphabetical order (ooc warning!⚠️ Long Paragraphs):
Astro wants bags to accept his defect? Of having four arms, while also having a want to sleep with them at times, maybe forever, so I give bags a blanket, an insane look on their fake eyes(I forgot to add eyebags 😭), and a crescent moon with a sun thingy to show an eclipse(symbolising their need for sleep kinda), kinda forcing them to need to go to Astro for proper sleep, forcing reliance on him. The eyes on their hands just serve as something to put you off guard when hiding around them while the hooky things on their hinds serve as heels for support (they stumble cause of lack of rest)
Inspired by that anon who give Bobette’s costume for bags, I feel like we are quite literally a pretty gift for her, all to keep for her in a way. So the present wrapping veil is like a wedding thing and a gift wrapper obviously, while the horns are a reference to krampus (ironic). The boa? around their head is the same as twisted’s bobette’s furneck, which I tried to shape like a Christmas wreath, while the ribbons around their legs and wrists are referencing the costume, I added spikes to the back shins and that winter symbol on their front feet to show bobette’s want kinda. The puppet face thingy is inspired by Christmas dolls and Funtime robots.
Dandy probably wants us to be the same level as him in a way, so we are shaped to be somewhat big like him, so to make up his size, we make it up with speed, so I give bags several legs to add that creepy factor and show that speed while separating their head tentacles (mimicking Dandys petals). I purposely give them no harms to show how we have no control over how dandy transforms us in our twisted state. I added a tail to reference Shelly in a kinda subtle manner, like even when dandy likes us it’s clear we like Shelly more compared to him.
Pebble’s idea is innocent originally: he might like us like a parent figure, so I give bags a guard dog look with multiple legs for creepy factors again. They’re about as big as twisted coal but make up size once again with speed, along with really far sight range (better than pebble’s). They are more animalistic than the rest of their other twisted forms, adopting pebble’s mannerisms in a way and overall just being more unpredictable now, especially with guarding pebble.
You know that interaction with Shelly about the ankylosaurus? Yep, your now one (in a way…) instead of normal armour plates you now have spikes? I used spikes since I heard therepods have them and twisted Shelly is said to be based of a therepod so I used them. I also kinda give them a half-transformation like Shelly where their upper torso is somewhat intact (only the arms and chest are perfect). They are as slow as coal normally but will throw their tail around when agitated, but most of the time their docile unless attacked.
Sprout’s influential form is -tall-. Like the tallest amongst all the twisted forms, I give them a plant bulb on their head to include how sprout is kinda ‘growing’ on them, like getting attached to them (in his own way.) His seeds are basically growing inside us as if we are getting sucked by his ‘love’, the worms do not help whatsoever (worms in my stomach reference(when your nervous and stuff)) the long arms are just vines that are outgrown but act as sensors for nearby toons stepping in their space (in this form their blind).
Vee’s desire is a mantis, like you know when mantises mate the female it’s the male? Thats us and vee, but a thing to note is that we are smaller than her twisted form. More so bending to shellys height, we have a microphone tail to copy her while the false face kinda serves as a lure for prey (does NOT work on vee) Our antennas are like insect ones but the bulbs are like the same like Vee’s. I made this design since it’s based on the fan costume Co-host and that part where we are her ‘star’. (Literally.)
I’ll try to cook for more but I’m tired but if you came here this long then congrats for reading the whole thing without annoyance.
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While these are interesting, the looks would have to be simplified down so hard to fit the aesthetic of the game.
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idkhonestlyy404 · 4 months ago
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SAMS/EAPS/LAES Music taste headcannons
☀️🌑🌎 in no particular order☀️🌑🌎
hyper specific because with head cannons its go big or GO HOME! (if you see me namedrop a song/musician its a recommendation/hj)
Sun- pop songs n' jazz, primarily romance, plays them in the daycare with a small bluetooth speaker and on request lets kids suggest songs to play to. (its not a loud speaker, if the kids don't like it they can just step ten feet away and its basically static)
does listen to some spicy songs but has multiple safe guards that a playlist with them in it never gets played in the daycare. (one time Moon was told to play some taylor swift or something and it started blasting Unholy)
memorizes every single song he listens to. listens to 20 songs on repeat every single day and never gets bored of them.
has dozens of playlists, 4 songs in each one. (except for the one for the daycare with like at least 40) and that playlist is constantly being reworked because it's not organized enough
specific bands he listens to; um.. like top ten spotify list idk I don't listen to pop music much, only time I do is when my dad forces the radio in the car instead of me choosing me silly music
Moon- Indie rock and glam rock are his top hits but he likes other rock genres, blasts the volume real high (plays it in his head) to the point if your like a regular human walking past him you can make out the lyrics just with a tad bit of distortion
literally cannot work without music
because of how loud he blasts it he cannot focus on work.
low hanging fruit but he listens to Seb Lowe n' mother mother
has one playlist (the 'liked' songs playlist) has over 500 songs, 34 hours, and can switch on a dime from the above category to a Latin chant that sounds vaguely Shakespearian / Christian
Earth-k-pop/pop girly, listens to sillyies music at home n trying to sleep but cannot at the daycare because she wants to make sure she can hear when children need her and since a lot of her songs are energetic she feels it will distract her.
has a lot of favorite musicians, cannot pick one, either listens to every single song in every one of their albums (regardless if they like all the songs or if its a minority/ one album they like, they are loyal!) or listens to one song and loves the vibe but PHYSICALLY CANNOT listen to another.
another low hanging fruit but she listens to barbie movie OSTs
prefers to listen to music with a headset (the pastel ones with cat ears) instead of playing it in her head because it makes the music feel like its around her than inside playing in her mind
Lunar-k pop, literally the same thing as earth since the only / first time he encountered a music genre he liked (HATED the loud headbang of Moon's songs) was when he was at Earths house.
maybe did use to like Moons music but listening to it when trying to sleep gave him the most eldritch nightmares known to man
listens to music to sleep, that's the only time he listens to songs..
during nap time in the daycare he dozes off with the children, he has to physically restrain himself from playing black pink while the other children are sleeping. (insert the making deal with rez thumbnail but Rez is his Spotify app)
started listening to other types of songs since the playlists earth has have started getting old after a few months, discovered he likes indie folk and certain country songs.
has a song literally named GOOD MORNING SUNSHINE (by the narcissist cookbook) that he, again, only listens to when starting to sleep despite probably needing that as his alarm clock's tone.
Eclipse- anything with a sick beat + a mind melting meaning, like Saint Bernard by Lincoln, I Am an Island by Phemiec, Cannibal by Neathen Apollo. ect. listens to songs to decompress and simmer in thoughts.
only listens to sad/angry songs
not because those are the emotion he dwells on the most, he just likes the vibe that sad/suffering songs tend to have.
..yah its also that.
Solar- k-pop girl band girly, Chappell roan, bit of folk and synth pop?, Eclipse didn't design his new body with the function to do things inside the head, he uses his phone to listen to music.
listens to music when working, lowered however so he can focus.
the music doesn't make a difference, he tunes it out after the first five minutes. he probably listens to music to make sure his phone didn't fall out his pocket/ has enough battery incase of emergency situations where he needs to be called
for the first week alive again he had to use wired ear buds because the wireless ones were being shipped, he HATED them because when he crouched to reach something or got forbit do some precise mechanics below eye level it would get in the way.
Jack-we already have a canonical answer to that >o w >o but uh, probably some intense dream pop, neo-psychedelia, and indie pop.
Solar was the one to set up jacks Spotify (he is just using Solar's) just so jack wouldn't listen to anything too explicit.
Solar put the daycare theme on there as a joke because he knows Jack gets frustrated listening to that dundundundun over and OVER in the daycare, somehow fixed the music burnout problem?? jack started voluntarily listening to that daycare theme playlist every single day
the daycare playlist has one song and that is the daycare theme on repeat for 3 hours.
Ruin- I know the low hanging fruit is Hamilton but I have some real suggestions, hyper pop, country and folk pop, and yeah, basically anything from 1990's/classical/theatrical
has a theater kid playlist that goes from Regina George to Tom lehrer so quick and he giggles when it goes from LET THE WORLD BURN to hehe I'm so happy Ima end ww3 : DDD hehe mom look at me! dropping! a! bomb! on! the! capital! of! Britain!
in the same playlist he has Will Wood and Tom Cardy
every week he has a new favorite song (he cycles through them too fast) this week it was Unsweetened lemonade by Amelie Farren, last week it was Rum Sum Sum no I will not elaborate.
when making playlists he just adds a bunch of recommended songs and then listen to them later, when making a 1920's playlist he heard 'you are my sunshine' and started tearing up because he immediately imagined it being about him and his Monty.. 'don't take my sunshine away from me' ..yeah.
has the most absurd playlist names but at the same time those are the best themed ones, they are available to the public. he knows their vibes are impeccable, he wishes there to be a treasure hunt for his great taste in music
Dazzle- likes piano music, though doesn't like listening to music in general since she'd prefer watching a video with music or just a video in general. visuals are importent.
EAPS Sun- Hyper pop (Ruin recommended it to him), that is all he listens to.
doesn't understand volume modulators and blasts it LOUD. like, not intentionally, it doesn't sound too loud to him but it's like the entire daycare can hear him blasting I <3 Harajuku by Alice Longyu Gao , Fraxiom
also does not play it in his mind, he thinks he is, hes just using his speakers.
Moon has physically begged Eclipse to silence the speakers and automatically make his spotify play in his head because of the amount of times Sun would just blast some foul things not understanding the meaning infront of children (webcore! by kwite as an example)
EAPS Moon- exact opposite of Sun, took the opposite side of Ruins taste profile, the classical stuff, though you cannot bring him to enjoy anything musical related. think, Bernadette by Elle Cordova, I'm always chasing rainbows by Judy garland.
very chill songs, Ruin tried to ease him in with one of Tom lehrers calmer songs (be prepared) but he didn't like the vibe.
he'd probably be down to try other genres, especially rock. that one seems cool to him, the teens like it. he just assumes anything negative would activate his KC even though he knows thats not how that works.
Puppet- mixed bag, either country romance/breakup songs or anime OST's (I know thats low hanging fruit I literally got no read on Puppet on that front of things.)
would like the Orion experience, though when one of the orion songs come on they (she? plz correct me but I am not sure on Puppets pronouns, isn't Puppet trans?) get whiplash because Orions voice is similar to theirs
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jylesthejester · 5 months ago
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With how things are going in TEAPS right now, I wouldn't be surprised if Eclipse left with Puppet, Foxy, and FC if they do leave.
Reasons being
A) He probably won't be able to stand being there without the three people he knows well (Puppet, Foxy, FC), B) Puppet and Foxy might drag him along to deter him from doing something drastic, and C) Just because he can't stand everyone here because of how their views are.
Also, I wonder, maybe when Lefty and the others try to force Puppet out if she doesn't leave, what if Moons killcode acts up? He seems to hold a lot of resentment towards the people who want Puppet to leave (Which would also mean taking FC and Foxy away), and I wonder if it'll Kickstart his killcode just seeing it go down?
And Lefty, I don't think this is... Lefty? If that makes any sense. I made a comment on the first video where this whole Puppet leaving thing was first mentioned, speculating that this isn't Lefty, but a mimic. I didn't watch all the videos of TEAPS from the beginning (I kinda stopped watching all the shows right after the TEAPS introduction premiere) but I've seen people say Lefty was a Crybaby, and rather quiet. So this seems out of character, like extremely so, or it also seems like, maybe, another Lefty? An old model maybe? I don't know.
Also I feel like if Puppet, Eclipse, Foxy, and FC leave, Frank and Francis are following, so are Jake, Andy, and Andrew probably.
Here's some other sorta unrelated theories.
I wonder if Eclipse has his own killcode? He seems to hold a lot of resentment, which might be why he is always rude or just generally ready to do extremely drastic things. It's not like Moon's killcode in that aspect, of course, as Moon would black out for moments at a time(IIRC?) But Eclipse is fully aware, I feel like it just severely affects his thought process or actions, and he also holds resentment towards Killcodes, likely because he came from one after being abandoned by Moon, so it makes sense for him to have his own.
I think Dark sun might appear in TEAPS, maybe to get Eclipse? Maybe Ruin? I'm unsure. I really think what Dark sun put in Eclipses body that made his systems run slower wasn't temporary, it just faded out eventually when Dark sun didn't need it to do anything anymore. I have a feeling he can reactivate it and or put it into overdrive, sending Eclipse either into his own head, or just in a paralyzed/limp state. And I think Dark sun might just genuinely be after Ruin for something, not too sure, but it seems like something he'd do, after all, maybe he'd do the same thing to ruin that he did to Eclipse?
I feel like Frank has more knowledge on genuinely good positivity then Francis does, I feel like they were supposed to look into what good negativity to help/feed off of(Misery, Grief, confrontations, sadness, death(not that its a good thing.), fear) and bad negativity to help/feed off of(Abuse, suicide, assault, other worse things I don't want to say.) [What I mean by help/feed off of is - Help, would mean supporting it, helping someone through it, maybe even promoting it to be good in certian circumstances. Feed off would be, watch and take it in.] As well as good positivity to help/feed off of(Childlike wonder, happiness, joy, celebrations, ceremonies, accomplishment, acceptance) and bad positivity to help/feed off of(Adrenaline from crimes, enjoyment out of hurting others, sadism, other things that very sick people enjoy doing.). Basically what I'm getting at is, I don't think Francis understands the difference between good and bad positivity in situations, Frank understands good and bad negativity and knows when something is fucked up, but Francis doesn't seem to.
Yeah, just- more rambling.
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llamaisllama777 · 7 months ago
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THE DAILY*/WEEKLY* LAES,TSAMS,EAPS REVIEW SHOW!!!
Off the bat with an amazing episode.
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I LOVED this episode. We're finally getting into all the trauma Moon has faced. Everything he's ever done. Everything he ever did. It's all coming back, and he's really not doing well. He was too afraid of Nexus to help Sun.
Moon was afraid. MOON. WAS. AFRAID.
I never thought I'd hear those words.
This episode also made me realize that Moon's sacrifice really did mean nothing! Moon died for nothing. Killcode got to live for a bit, but he still died. Moon's death led to the creation of New Moon/Nexus. If Moon had just accepted his killcode instead of trying to get rid of it, none of this would have happened. Moon's death really did do more harm than good.
Earth really came in clutch here. This was basically a pseudo-therapy episode. (I miss those episodes. Those episodes were always neat)
Earth, you say you may not know what to say sometimes or you don't know what to do but when you do you really do!
I'm also glad Earth and Monty are being more honest with the other cause they are really cute, and I want these characters to be happy.
NEXT EPISODE...
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Jack and Sun? Hanging out? YYYYEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I loved this episode a lot, too. It's nice to Jack and Sun finally getting a chance to bond while Solar, Moon, and Monty battle the little barbershop of horrors plant outside. Sun and Jack actually make decent friends. I hope we get more of them hanging out and their dynamic. I loved how Jack finally was able to tell Sun that he felt threatened by Sun's friendship with Dazzle. I was hoping they would eventually talk that out, and I'm so glad it happened!
Things I learned in today's episode
1. Jack doesn't like ranged weapons like guns. (He likes throwing knives, though)
2. Jack has seen every James Bond film. Jack is a Bond fan.
3. Jack can kill a man with a pencil
4. Monty can build anything out of anything
Also, I really hope someone draws a picture of Jack dressed as V from V for Vendetta! Please, someone, draw that! I beg of the!
Also, I thought that scene where Jack was singing Walk the Moon's "Shut up and dance with me" when they were watching the ballroom fight scene from one John Wick movies
And lastly...
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Welp. I'm glad they're friends. Shame it took the death of a kid for them to do so.
Jake was nice. He seemed so innocent. I actually felt super sad and worried when they said he died. I was like, "Oh no! Did the killer get to him?!" But no. He just passed..... I honestly think that's sadder for some reason.
Moon, Sun, and Eclipse are working through that loss, and I'm glad to see F.C. and Andrew are working through their own thing.
Yep, as I suspected F.C. is traumatized by what he saw. Seriously, Eclipse, a heads up would have been nice. I'm happy to see F.C. and Andrew get along. They have come a long way since well everything. I also thought it was funny when F.C. said he hated Andrew. I genuinely expected Andrew to be the one to hate F.C. not the other way around.
WE GOT A CLUE ON WHO THE KILLER COULD BE!!!
When F.c. and Andrew was leaving parts and service. Andrew found an open spray can of yellow paint.... the same yellow as the bunny suit the killer wore. The killer is indeed an employee or The Mimic (I will die on that hill till proven otherwise), so the Killer's suit isn't actually yellow, and he has access to the parts and service room. The Killer's identity is closer to being revealed! I. CAN'T. WAIT!
I loved today's episodes. Especially TLAES one.
12/10 👍👏
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Why are you and twinanimatronics spreading misinformation that Solar just calls himself cousin as a joke? I don't care what y'all ship, just at least don't spread misinformation like that. Proven in today's LAES episode, Lunar was quick to consider Solar as sibling despite Earth clarifying that he's a cousin. Point is, Solar wasn't joking about that.
Earth literally said that Solar isn't a cousin and gave him a title cause she likes giving a title for things.
They have clarified this at least a total of two times in their reaction episodes. And I really think it's the VA's way of saying "Ship what you like."
I say "joke" because Solar did call himself a cousin as a joke in the Christmas Episode. "Who's gonna give a gift to good ol' cousin Solar -he laughs- "
It's the only time he's referred to himself as such.
Every other time he's felt awkward about it every time Earth tends to bring it up.
I did not view Solar as a cousin LONG before Earth made a cute little title for him. She even acts like it's a non-official thing. And I still don't. I do not view Solar a sibling either.
I ship them as AU and not related.
I do not view Solar as related. I do not view him as a sibling. I do not view him as a distant relative either.
People who don't support SolarMoon Ship SunEclipse all the time.
Eclipse and Solar are literally the same person from a different dimention.
So Sun can be shipped with an Eclipse?
But Solar Can't?
What kinda weird logic is that?
By that Logic, Every single Sun and Moon themed animatronic is related.
Is Solar and Ruin shipped together incest?
Is Ruin and Eclipse shipped together incest?
Is shipping Gemini with Lunar Pedophila because one is a star being and the other is a robot????
What if Eclipse has a redemption arc and then Told Sun and Moon he wanted to be THEIR BROTHER... WHAT THEN?!?!?! WHAT THEN?! I'm curious actually. As an Eclipse x Sun shipper, what would you do then?!?!?
Earth and Lunar even joked that their family tree is basically nonexistant.
I think we need to normalize people Just saying "This ship isn't for me" and stop trying to pull a "GOTCHA" and trying to find an excuse things are morally reprehensible or throw people under the bus because they just liked the idea or possibilities of seeing two animatronic robots kiss.
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pineconedrop · 27 days ago
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Hello! Quick warning before we get started, this is a rant post about Moon, so if you don’t wanna read it, please scroll past <3
@dreamymirastone Here ya go :D
Okay let’s start from the beginning. Moon was obviously a horrible brother and person and not only do we see it from the first few episodes, we later get an episode before the channel starts showing off how much of a horrible person Moon was. Like dude left a part of his kill code in his own brother? AND DIDN’T TELL HIM?! So like almost everything that happens in the series is his fault 🤷.
The only time we see him being a nice person is towards Lunar. He never once threatened to hurt him (worst threat he came up with was taking away dvd wafers) yet continued to hurt Sun. Moon basically pushed Sun aside and treated Lunar correctly (showing that Moon was capable of being a good brother and deliberately chose not to be a good brother for Sun). Then the whole Bloodmoon situation happens and Moon locks his brother away whilst he’s not mentally well instead of trying to be there for him? HE JUST LEAVES HIM?! And then goes on to do this own thing instead of helping his brother. Like whatever.
That seems to be a common occurrence for Moon. He just leaves his siblings while they’re mentally distressed and does his own thing. It doesn’t matter if he thinks it’ll help, because this has happened multiple times and never once has Moon leaving helped. Like ever. Yet he continues anyway?
Like he just left Sun in that state after Nexus was killed and Solar literally had to force him to come and help Sun. AND THEN WHEN HE GOT TO SUN HE WOULDN’T SHUT UP ABOUT WHAT A BAD PERSON HE WAS AND BLAH BLAH BLAH. LIKE SHUT UP!! Your brother is depressed and hurting because he lost someone important to him and you can’t shut up about you.
Also the way Moon handled the negative star arc with Lunar was sooooo bad dear lord. Like not only did he kick him out of the house, he said in that episode he wasn’t allowed to contact the family (cutting off his only support system), banned him from working at the daycare (taking away his only money source, and it wasn’t like Lunar could get another job, since they’re animatronics and don’t have rights), and refused to listen to him. Like jesus Moon, I understand kicking him out of the house, but how do you expect him to work on himself if he doesn’t have a support system? Like it’s not babying him to help him get better, cause that’s what families do. Plus, it wasn’t like Lunar had the tools to get better either, since he learned his defense mechanisms and coping skills from Sun, Moon, and Eclipse. He was basically set up for failure.
Then the whole machine thing happened (I made an entire post about that), which was gross. Very bad. The way Moon handled it was disappointing and disgusting. He designed the machine to basically target all of Lunar’s insecurities and fears and the machine was to teach him how to not react to it basically. So what he was doing before? Repressing his emotions? Instead of teaching him a healthy way to deal with them? Giving him a safe space to vent out his emotions? ALSO, an episode before that, Moon was talking to Sun about how bad it was to repress emotions. And then instantly turns to Lunar and forces him to do the same thing. LIKE POLLUX RECOGNIZED IT WAS BAD!! Y’know, one of the astrals that don’t understand human emotions. Moon is so dumb sometimes it hagqiafsgauagsvshhsjd.
Then Kerian’s infection happened. I know that it was confirmed Lunar didn’t jumped and instead passed out and fell into the pool, but Moon and Earth didn’t know that. In fact, Earth basically described it as him trying to take his own life. And Moon didn’t go after him, he stayed with Earth and talked about cheese. Like he saw his little brother in distress and was told he maybe tried to kill himself and decided “nah, imma stay here and chat with Earth like nothing happened”. He also didn’t tell anyone till after Lunar was found? It baffled me that Moon didn’t go after him, like how little do you care about him? It didn’t matter that he had a tracker on him, Lunar still could have gotten hurt before he got there.
He also didn’t try to help Solar find Jack, just left that on his shoulders, didn’t fight too hard to stop Earth from searching for Lunar and didn’t even go with her?
He’s still the same Moon before he died, but now his actions aren’t being held in a bad light. Especially with Lunar because Lunar did a bad thing, so therefore Moon wasn’t in the wrong. He basically neglected his family and no one really cared (from what I could see). And the most disgusting part of it is that Moon is very much capable of being there for his family. At one point he was there for Earth and Dazzle and yet doesn’t extend that to his other family members, sometimes even Earth’s issues too. It’s disappointing.
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ikamigami · 9 months ago
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I do not get how Sun can be blamed for Eclipse, there’s so many reasons why not
Sun AND Moon had no idea he was there, even Moon erroneously thought he just left some inert code in there that wouldn’t turn into something, but Sun had no idea because Moon never told him and Eclipse didn’t say anything right up until after July 16th
They blaming Sun’s bad thoughts is some of the most victim-blaming nonsense I’ve ever heard, this is the kind of belief people with OCD rail against because EVERYBODY has bad thoughts and/or intrusive thoughts, especially if they’re as abused and neglected as Sun is, the only thing that matters is if you act on them and Sun never did, he’s not evil for just having mean thoughts, it’s an excuse
Some argue Eclipse was upset with Sun for not standing up for himself and that’s why but that’s also nonsense, this is about as idiotic as Moon abusing Sun to “make him have a spine”, that’s NOT how you do it that’s basic abuse 101, if Eclipse was really seeing Sun’s true thoughts on his mistreatment and really cared he wouldn’t have made Sun’s life twice as awful
And then there’s Solar, living proof every choice Eclipse made didn’t have to happen, he could’ve chosen to be better at any point and all the bad was his choice, Solar proves he could’ve approached this all differently and got what he wanted sooner, he didn’t have to make himself everyone’s enemy, or at least Sun’s enemy as Sun even tried to plead with him even AFTER July 16th(which says something because they didn’t know about Bloodmoon, they thought Eclipse did it, so Sun trying to make nice with and beg the presence that killed the children he was closest too is a lot, even if it’s partially out of fear he had every right to hate Eclipse but he instead tried making peace)
All of the arguments people give for blaming Sun for Eclipse really irk me as it is victim-blaming, the one who’s far more responsible is Moon because he made Eclipse in the first place, but instead of just focusing on the perpetrator Eclipse just had to lash out at Sun instead
You're absolutely right, dear anon! Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me ^^
I needed this more than you could think
My theory or take on this is that despite Eclipse hearing Sun's most deep hidden thoughts he didn't understand Sun..
I mean I think that Sun's inner thoughts were intrusive thoughts and thoughts that he's bad.. so I think that this is where Eclipse's words came from.. that Sun isn't better than them and he's just lying.. and he tried to show that to Moon..
But despite that Sun didn't stand up for himself.. despite Eclipse being sure that Sun would be capable of doing so and more.. Sun not only didn't stand up for himself but also he stayed with Moon and believed in him..
Hence Eclipse's words that he hated how Sun was handling himself..
Eclipse doesn't understand Sun.. he doesn't know that Sun's inner thoughts - from what I've gathered - are just his delusional perception of himself with also intrusive and impulsive thoughts and paranoia..
None of the things that happened to Eclipse were Sun's fault.. and yeah Eclipse should've focus more on Moon for leaving him behind abandoning him in Sun's head.. and for being abusive towards Sun as Eclipse could only watch..
Same was with Moon at the beginning.. instead of being angry at FazCo. he had to lash out at Sun who was nice and tried to help him..
Sun was really unfairly treated in life.. he got the worst hand..
And Eclipse was too bitter to care.. but I think that he still felt something.. because he was shocked by Sun's outbursts.. because he doesn't understand Sun..
And I think that he realized that Sun wasn't at fault like previous versions of him thought.. but I agree with goodolddumbbanana that Eclipse doesn't like to admit that he's wrong hence why he acts like the Sun from eaps is actually just like our Sun was.. even if that's not true.. but I think that he's just projecting to not have to face the truth fully.. because then he had to admit that he was wrong and he had to apologize for what he's done to Sun.. (even though it wasn't exactly him but he treats it like that)
But you're absolutely right that fans are awful for victim blaming Sun for Eclipse's situation.. because none of this was his fault.. even a tiniest bit..
Sun doesn't deserve such treatment especially when we see how much he tries to be better and do good and be kind.. despite everything..
Thank you once again, dear anon ^^
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cringelordofchaos · 2 years ago
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Alright, y'know how some fandoms give more creative names to ships? Such as Kai x Cole from Ninjago, in which the whole shipping community collectively decided would be called "Lava/Lavashipping" based on their traits unrelated to their names? I wanted to do that with sonic! What if sonic ship names were like that?
So I have decided to start a list of ship names I created for some pairs! I'm going to update it as I go. (If anyone actually sees this, which is unlikely, they're allowed to share their own ship name ideas, and be credited). So here (also, for obvious reasons, I'm not going to list any adult x kid or adult x teen ships, nor inc*st ships. This post is more focused on romantic pairings and possibilities, sorry) without further Ado, I'm gonna try listing some names in no particular order (many of them are stupid)
Sonic x Amy - DestinyShipping (based on the fact that Amy believes she was destined to meet sonic, as well on the fact that Amy heavily believes in destiny while sonic believes in creating your own destiny.)
Sonic x Knuckles - SolarEclipseShipping (based on the fact that they were intended to have opposite personalities, as well as the fact that sonics round belly is supposed to represent the sun and knuckles chest thing is supposed to represent the moon. So sun and moon together make a solar eclipse.)
Sonic x Shadow x Silver - TimelineShipping/TimeTravelShipping?? (Based on the fact that shadow is from the past, sonic is from the present and silver is from the future.)(name can be used for sonadow, shadilver and sonilver alone as well)
Amy x Metal Sonic the hedgehog - PinkMetalShipping/ShockingDestingShipping (first name is based on the fact that Amys fur is pink, and metal Sonic is made out of metal. Second ship name is based on the fact that Amy for the longest time believed she was destined to meet sonic, but perhaps it wasn't sonic who she was destined to meet, because she also met metal Sonic on the same place, so perhaps it was metal Sonic all along.) OR RosegoldShipping (SUGGESTED BY @oddogoblino ) because rose gold is a type of metal
Amy x Blaze - BlazingHammerShipping (I'm so sorry for giving such a basic name.. blaze has fire powers, Amy's signature weapon is a hammer. Together, they make a blazing hammer as their signature ship weapon) OR TarotFlameShipping (SUGGESTED BY @thefakehedgehogaroundhere) . Amy uses tarot cards and blaze has fire powers
Amy x Knuckles - AngerIssuesShipping?? JUST KIDDING um PikoPikoFistShipping?? (You can tell I'm bad at this. Amy has a piko piko hammer, knuckles's dominant weapon is his fist, I guess? In a physical sense, he is more than his fists but you get it) OR StrengthShipping (SUGGESTED BY @kernelbastard ) assumedly referring to both of their strength
Amy x Shadow - PromiseShipping (this is not my idea. I dunno where I got it. Refer to sonic adventure two near ending, Amy and shadow interaction and you'll understand why I chose this.)
Tails x Charmy x Cream x Cosmo - FlyHighShipping (because tails, Charmy and Cream fly. And because Cosmo is dea-)(name can be used for the possible monogamous pairings in this ship by themselves as well, such as tails x cream alone)
Tails x Kit - WaterWhipShipping (I swear I'll update this but basically tails's uh tails whip(??) and kit has water powers so y'know)
Blaze x Silver - StarCrossedShipping (how did they even meet?? They're from both different dimensions AND timelines. (I don't believe in "blaze got sent to her dimension after the events of sonic06 crap). Realistically they probably would've never met. But hey, perhaps they will beat all the odds and not care what is probable, or what will stop them. Anyway this ship name sucks I'm gonna change it some day layerjdjjs)
Sonic x Shadow - MoonlitShipping (SUGGESTED BY @oddogoblino ) because sonic is the moon that lights up shadows arch
Knuckles x Blaze - GuardianShipping (they are both guardians, knuckles guarding the master emerald and blaze guardian the sol emeralds)
Whisper x Shadow - SilentNightShipping (stolen from @sonicrarepairtournament hehe) Whisper is known to be silent and quiet, whereas Shadow could be associated with the Night due to his design and personality
Amy x Sticks - WildRoseShipping (I don't think I have to explain this one, Amys last name is literally Rose, sticks is the wild badger we know and love, together they make a wild rose.)
Anyway that's all I have for now. Gonna update later.
You can suggest ship names and pairings you want me to think of if you'd like!!
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theallianceofcelestials · 1 month ago
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we've seen grown ups suddenly becomes babies, we've been obsessed with it even
but hear me out, what if Watchful Nightmare kids (+ the potato/baby) suddenly become grown ups
It's instant chaos. It's the suddenly self-aware Lunar staring at everything in wonder and fear, it's the suddenly fully matured Eclipse who's really embarrassed by the way he was thinking as a child, it's the suddenly fullgrown full-power Bloodmoon breaking everything they touch too hardly.
Seeing as they didn't have the ability to become completely self-reliant in the way adults are, they look to their respective guardians in the hopes they can fix this.
And the sudden realisation these people aren't as larger than life as they appeared. Sun and Moon are now shorter than Eclipse, Earth's much softer casing is now glaringly obvious, and KC is on the verge of crying as well as them because he already realised he can't help with this. So everyone's just left helplessly staring, because no one knows what to do
But ultimately, things calm down. Everyone closes off for a bit so Sun and Moon can teach Lunar stuff and same with KC, Eclipse and Bloodmoon. They'd still curl up on their dad as much as they can, burying their face into whatever they can reach because they're scared and it was just yesterday that they did this with him.
Lunar can't even walk or talk man. He's just basically stuck as a potato with the theorical knowledge on how to do stuff but no actual experience with it. He's freaking the fuck out. So he'd probably cry because that's all he learned how to do. And Sun and Moon are freaking out.
Needless to say, when everyone turns back to how they're supposed to be the adults are relieved. Earth, who's been running between the two apartments can finally sit down for five seconds and sleep
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