#Flashpoint Beyond

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Flash vs Reverse Flash by Dan Mora

[morgangalaxy43]

Thank you Flashpoint Beyond for giving me so much Uncle Oswald content

[ufonaut]

This is what you want too, isn’t it, Thomas? To turn our lives into a bad dream... to erase our painful existence of grief and emptiness... to end it all.

Flashpoint Beyond (2022) #6

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Xermanico

[sparrowsknife]

my wife everyone

[artverso]

Xermanico - Flashpoint Beyond 

[towritecomicsonherarms]

Flashpoint Beyond #1

[fifiophobia]

Jeffrey Dean Morgan is a popular fan casting choice for a live action Flashpoint Thomas Wayne, so I began to wonder who could play Martha Wayne.

This is probably gonna sound odd, but please hear me out:

What if Aya Cash played Flashpoint Martha Wayne?

Aya is able to play off being a villain in other roles, and with her comedic flare I’m sure she could make a good Flashpoint Martha Wayne

But as per usual; what are your thoughts?

[chess-blackmyre]

[tacagen]

we are NOT!! TALKING ENOUGH ABOUT THIS PAGE. LIKE THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL DEPICTIONS OF THAWNE TO EVER EXIST IN COMICS!! THE BLOOD!! THE BRUISES UNDER HIS EYES!! THE LIFELESS EXPRESSION!! THE HAIR!! THE BUILD!! THE EVERYTHING!! AND ITS A FUCKING CORPSE!!! HIS RENAISSANCE PAINTING ASS IS JUST LYING AROUND IN THE MORGUE WAITING FOR THE AUTOPSY!!!!

[juneed]

Your honor flashpoint!Martha Wayne simply was in a very silly goofy mood. She didn't really mean to commit all those crimes

[nightwings-blue]

STOP THE PRESSES THOMAS WAYNE'S BATMAN HAS A ROBIN AND IT'S HARVEY DENT'S SON??

why am i just now learning about this. i need to learn everything i can about this right now.

[morgangalaxy43]

Thomas and Martha would have very interesting reactions to meeting their grandkids and that all depends on which version of them it is (Flashpoint would easily be the most insane)

[ufonaut]

“Once we’re finished, he will never have happened. Nothing matters. No one will know.”

“But it will have happened. Somehow, someway.”

Flashpoint Beyond (2022) #6

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DISTORTOPIA LOOK

IS IN THE COMIC ONESHOT THE NEW GOLDEN AGE

WHY HE HAS MARTHA JOKER CARD EVEN THE SNOWBALL

WHAT DOES MEAN????

...Well. It means lots of things but none of them are remotely in the realm of sanity.

New Golden Age apparently takes place in the future of the current DC Universe. So this is our Bruce in the future, one who got married to Selina and had Helena (much like Batman/Catwoman or Batman of Earth-2). It's a Bruce who went through the events of Flashpoint Beyond, since he has the snow globe and... for some reason he got informed that his mother is Joker in the Flashpoint Universe, and he decided to get a Joker card with his mother-as-Joker's face on it.

Not only that. The implication is that at some point in the future:

It is revealed Joker has a son (perhaps the way Lonnie Machin was introduced as a potential son Joker had? perhaps it's a child he had with Harley who she hid like in Injustice? perhaps it's like the daughter he had as a result of a one-night stand but didn't know about like in The Dark Prince Charming?). And then Bruce for some reason takes in Joker's son and makes him a Robin -- as implied by the unknown Robin suit shown when Selina says that, which is placed after Damian's thus implying this Robin existed after his era;

It is revealed that Joker's son with Jeannie is alive (since Flashpoint Beyond canonized Joker's The Killing Joke origin, and also gave us Joker's name and the fact Jack Oswald White had a family) -- and then Bruce for some reason takes in Joker's son and makes him a Robin. (This would make the timeline very weird though. If alive, Joker's son should be around twenty-years old right now, nevermind how much older he should be in a nebulous future. How did he become Robin after Damian while stil being a child or teenager?)

Thought that maybe Selina is talking about Dexter Dent who Flashpoint Batman and Joker adopted, and who also likely became Robin. But it doesn't make sense for Bruce or Selina to know about him, or for her to refer to a bad event happening to him. Because...

3. No matter how exactly Joker's son came to exist, the implication is that Bruce took him in at some point, he became a Robin, and then something bad happened to him. Since Tim, Stephanie and Damian have all kinda died at some point, it's implied Joker's son might've shared a similar fate?

The second option of the son being Jeannie's has more support despite the chronology shenanigans, since the reveal of Joker's name and family had zero bearing on the plot of Flashpoint Beyond; it always felt like they were setting something up with it. I thought that maybe they would tie it to Joker: The Man Who Stopped Laughing, and maybe they still will somehow, but it's looking more likely that they're bringing in Joker's family in one form or another. It's not just the Flashpoint Beyond reveal of Joker's past, but also... Geoff Johns is the author, aka the guy who also wrote Batman: Three Jokers. A comic in which Joker's family is revealed to be alive, and Bruce apparently knew about it all along.

This feels like an attempt to canonize all of it. Timeline got rewritten and something happened to Joker way back in the day (maybe he found out about Jeannie and the kid, a confrontation took place, who knows) -- but his son got revealed and Bruce ended up taking him in, all before Death in the Family ever had the chance to happen (Joker's son would be around twelve during this time, and that would fit better.) Because Selina mentions Tim, Stephanie and Damian but not Jason, who should've been the first example if his death at Joker's hands still happened.

Not even going to get into how much I will hate it if they dump a family in Joker's lap and then kill him off. Because... let me get this straight, DC. Bruce Wayne is Batman in our Universe, and Jack Oswald White is his Joker. But in Flashpoint, because Bruce is the one who died, Thomas Wayne is Batman and the Joker is his wife, Martha Wayne. Our Bruce finds out about all of this and then proceeds to hang up a card of his-mother-as-Joker next to his own Joker card. And whenever the reveal happens about his Joker having a son, he freaking takes him in and turns him into a Robin... only for Joker's son to potentially die.

Alright. Okay.