#Helluva Boss Characters

[colourstreakgryffin]

Idk if requests are open but if they are may I request a Mammon x plus sized curvy reader with AuHDHD if that's alright?

Oh… darn. Well, Mammon probably won’t be lenient or nice about it. He is that type of guy so whilst he’s a bit offensive, I hope it’ll be okay. I��m not personally mocking being plus sized or having AuHDHD, I just doubt Mammon would be nice about it at first— but anyway

Mammon- Greatest Self

Straight up… Mammon is pretty goddamn crude and a big selfish bastard. He doesn’t apologise for anything he does and he doesn’t regret being judgemental or discriminative since he only cares for himself

So, when he sees you… a ‘unappealing plus sized brat with a fucked up head’ that’s apparently his new employee, has him apathetic and disinterested so he doesn’t even care to be nice nor ease up his toxicity as your boss

Mammon didn’t really fear insulting your physical body or your psychological issues. He finds both of them very annoying and he cannot bring himself to be patient with you, so for the first few months he had you hired. He treated you badly…

However, for the first time in his life, the Sin of Greed… genuinely felt something bad for somebody else upon making his nasty remarks when he saw the way you were upset over him

Mammon doesn’t know why but he ended up changing his attitude with you since he couldn’t take the sharp stabs in his heart anymore! He can’t insult you without hurting himself. Eventually, he completely silences his bad treatment and tries his best to compliment you

Mammon actually really don’t believe that disorders exist at all and when you, when gaining back trust to your Circus-decored sin boss, explain what AuHDHD is… he does his end to not laugh at the nonsense and listens up. He doesn’t get all this medicine and this treatments yet he keeps trying to understand you anyway

Mammon likes his people attractive and thin and curvy. Whilst he doesn’t think plus sized is attractive at first, he also thinks that there is a POSSIBLE chance that a plus sized curvy person can be hot and eventually, he does view you that way… your plush curves is soft and squishable

Honestly, he thirsts over you like crazy. Mammon loves to kiss and suck your soft plus-sized belly and waist. Feel your bigger thighs and your nice thick ass… he loves the same you feel, you’re amazing and he basically pants over your body

This is a lot less sexual but romantic passion, Mammon doesn’t find anybody sexually thriving but romantically thriving. It’s why he likes your body, he likes to dress you up and put you nice clothing and shoes… oh, it makes him flutter!

Don’t worry, Mammon will NEVER let anybody insult your body or your conditions! He did previously but he doesn’t anymore since you’re now his beloved partner so if anybody even dares to make fun of you, he’ll devour them whole with no hesitation whatsoever

NOBODY hurts his beloved little kitten!

Mammon is the type of pampering lover, he enjoys giving you all kinds of wonderful presents and items pretty much 24/7 since his love language is in the form of ‘receiving gifts’. It’s spoiling but it’s his best strength, getting the best things since whilst he hates spending money. He’ll spend it on him and you

Mammon is not usually a patient man at all but he is always doing his best for you since he has some weird obsession over you that he can’t explain at al! He does his best to be patient with your conditions and understand your different attitudes aren’t intentional… even if your tones may offend him

Mammon may like you a lot but he is still a awfully greedy money-eyed prick so he’ll market you in whatever your best skill is so he can profit from it but he will gladly give you… a proportion of that income gain. He only slightly exploits you where he exploits everybody 100%

Mammon enjoys having you match him in clothing or accessorises! So, he likes to get you to wear whatever he is at the time, I’m afraid you’ll have to get use to this little cute thing until he gets bored of it… which will probably take some time so he’ll make you his Mini Me and admire how cute you look!

Mammon treats you like a Prince/Princess/Royal amongst the workplace so you get special privileges, and his employees do as you want when you want by his command. If you’re hungry, they give you food first. If you need time alone to handle your AuDHD, they are to leave right away

Mammon personally doesn’t think you need to do anything for anybody else so when you tell him, after a long day, about people saying you need to lose your weight. He’ll basically say; ‘you don’t need to change for anybody’ but if you ever want to change your plus-sized form, he’ll be there to support you… in the most Mammon way

Now. To top up your relationship with the Aussie Greed King, Mammon is not the most perfect boyfriend and he’s always trying to improve his ugliest traits to not hurt your feelings so he needs time but he does love you and he’ll show it

“Eh? Do’n wan’a perform this year, babe? Ya’d make a’ adorable one, ya know. Crikey, crikey. Ay, I was just saying, doll… don’t need to hiss at me like that. Lucifer’s will. Would ma’ performin’ with ya help at all?”

[caldella]

Stella: Pawn, Perpetrator, Perpetuator

Upperclass politics, Stella's abuse dynamics, and the actual depth behind her"flat" character

Back again with more character analysis/fan theories! This IS Stella, so TW: Abuse right off the bat. And TW: SA based on her discussion of her/Stolas' sex life in The Circus.

This post is made after the end of S2 and before any S3. How TF did this get so long? I'm not even a Stella fan!

This is not an 'in defense' post. If you are extremely Pro-Stella or in any way Anti-Stolas, I suggest not engaging with this. Stella IS abusive. While I will discuss potential reasons behind her behavior, I do not excuse it or feel like Stella was justified in them or retconned in S2 to be a villain. Signs were always there. If this take bothers you, this post will likely waste your time.

ALSO: If you read my post on Stolas/Via and prophecies, I mentioned having post drafts inspired by/coincidentally similar to other bloggers'. I've been meaning to make a Stella post for a while, but @cute-little-fly made this excellent post first. It contains several points I planned on making + ones I never would've thought of. Noting how Stella shows training in proper table etiquette and comparing her to the villain in Addams Family were inspired ✨. And Anemicjellyfish's reblog to that same post has a lot of the same backstory theories I have, too (just saw that one as I started to make this). So as usual, credit where credit is due! Let's dive in!

Stella's Base Traits

These might seem pretty obvious, but it's important to lay them out before we get into this. From what we've seen so far, Stella is:

Extraverted/social: She seeks out social settings and loves parties. When not with friends or Andre, she's usually on the phone.

Attention-seeking: Stella likes to have people drawn to her and seeks validation/recognition from others.

Vain/Conceited: She values her appearance, social stability, and the benefits of her upperclass position.

Impulsive/Temperamental: Ruled by her emotions, Stella acts on her feelings without fear of consequence.

Short-Sighted/Selfish: She acts on what would make her happy in the moment without considering long-term implications.

Unintelligent: Related to her short-sightedness, she is not book smart or politically clever and is blind to the complications of her position.

Selfish: She doesn't consider others unless it's in conjunction with what she wants.

Superficially Confident: Stella does not accept being spoken down to or anything she views as being treated poorly.

Probably Actually Insecure: She needs constant validation. She dresses formally and wears her crown even casually around the home (even wears the crown with her robe in Sinsmas!). She follows Andrealphus' opinions when given and falls on him as a backup/threat when vulnerable. She shouts back immediately when as a defense mechanism, even against Andrealphus. She surrounds herself with people who act as an echo chamber for her opinions and can't handle anything that goes against them.

Backstory So Far

She comes from a marquis/marchioness family. While this is a noble title, and marquis are often appointed to important positions by royalty, they are not royalty themselves.

As shown in her child photo in The Circus, Stella has always been prone to aggressive/violent outbursts, yet no one around her has treated this as abnormal. Paimon called her charming.

Based on Viv's hints about Stella's upbringing (coming Season 3), she came from a family with extremely unhealthy/possibly violent or abusive dynamics, and an emphasis on a woman's traditional role in families/high class society. She likely grew up with her position as future wife/mother forced on her. Much like Stolas, she was given a restrictive role and not allowed to deviate.

As cute-little-fly pointed out, she learned etiquette so far as formal dress/public image. She holds teacups and wine glasses etc. mostly correctly. She probably had a focus on 'finishing school' style education to be a 'proper lady.' She was not educated or interested in things like science/math/literature. And if she was taught about polite mannerisms - she didn't absorb those.

She was betrothed to Stolas at a very young age without choice.

Current hints seem to indicate that she never liked Stolas. From the first pic of them with each other (assumed to be their wedding portrait), both of them look miserable, and she's not even looking at him.

She has implicit trust/understanding with Andrealphus. While willing to shout back at him, she never questions his judgement. She divulges her worst schemes to him without fear. It's likely they grew up with a close sibling dynamic.

Stella as a Political Pawn

Perpetrators of abuse are often victims of the systems that created them. All signs point to Stella being little more than a pawn to her family, especially her parents. She was not brought up to be smart. She was betrothed to a stranger in childhood, a prince who would improve her social standing. She also has never shown use of magic powers, leading to fan speculation that she either doesn't have them (and was therefore valued even less) or was neglected to an extent that she never received training. Marrying her off dumped the responsibility of this potentially powerless, not-clever daughter on someone else while also creating a connection to King Paimon.

And to top off all this was Andrealphus, her indulgent and scheming older brother. People complained that his character stole focus from Stella and left her undeveloped, but I disagree. Andrealphus added depth by revealing that Stella has been/is a pawn for her family, even for him.

Andrealphus does look out for his sister and seems to care about her. Their dynamic might have started in childhood, scheming around their home's staff or ducking restrictive or abusive parents. However, there is manipulation happening here. Andrealphus either never tried to better educate/improve Stella or gave up trying a long time ago. Despite them being very close, he doesn't entertain any thoughts of breaking her from the system that screwed her over. He only encourages her to work within it for their mutual benefit.

The palace makeover in Sinsmas showed that he was less interested in giving Stella her own power/autonomy as he was taking Stolas' things for himself. He treats Stella like a spoiled child to indulge and is unable to say anything positive about her beyond her good looks. Her lack of intelligence hampers their plans but also enables him to control her. While Andrealphus looks out for his sister and prevents her from sabotaging herself, he devalues her at the same time.

Lack of Choice/Embracing the System

As stated, Stella was born to be little more than a chess piece for her family to "win" the social game. This role is clearly normalized in their culture. The Goetia see no problems with non-love pairings and associations for personal gain/political sway. Romance and individuality do not serve much purpose.

At some point, Stella had these ideas pushed into her until she embraced them. Her violent/aggressive behavior was also never checked or corrected enough (if at all), and lacking traditional smarts, that became her main tool. Stella wanted attention and to be allowed to get her way, and this was the most convenient way to do it. She absorbed the catty, selfish, domineering lessons taught by their culture and perhaps her parents. Since Andre is a Marquis, she was probably a Marchioness. She was also a Goetia - she was entitled to acting superior. Stella grew up to be beautiful, self-important, and aggressive. Loud, selfish, tempestuous behavior got her the attention she craved. "Lower" beings like poor people/imps only good to throw around or do her bidding. She became a living example of the worst aspects of her upbringing, in order to fit into her position.

A Pairing That Sowed Resentment

I have mentioned this theory before, and I saw Anemicjellyfish mention something along these lines as well: I think the cute kid portrait of Stolas was sent to Stella's family first. I think she found out about the engagement before him, and the raging child Stella portrait sent for Stolas was her immediate reaction. This betrothal induced rage in her before the two of them even met, further sowing the seeds of her future abuse.

Stella probably knew what obligations she had getting into a marriage: be pretty as part of her social status, get a husband whose title would improve her position, and produce an heir. After that, her purpose was essentially served besides continuing to look good, literally and socially. I think she decided to get the 'requirements' of her marriage over with as soon as possible to move onto what she wanted to do: gossip, host parties, absorb the attention her connections gained her. Perhaps she expected her future husband to have the same attitude. It was normal in their society, after all.

Instead, she was matched with a shut-in, eccentric bookworm with niche hobbies. Stolas was a well-meaning but socially unskilled man who avoided conflict. I think their first impressions were probably bad, with Stolas trying to set his "make things comfortable for us" boundaries right away in his attempt to establish clear communication. It would've been a considerate, well-intended thing to do, and something Stella wouldn't appreciate. Stella doesn't appreciate boundaries in general. She was raised to be above them. It turned out Stolas was not a husband who would draw attention to himself or flout his position. He didn't pull himself up by (intentionally) bringing others down. And he was never attracted to Stella no matter how "hot" she was. Stolas was nothing like what a male Goetia was supposed to be, and I think Stella hated it.

She hated him. Hated his personality, his quirkiness, his interests, his unobtrusive nature, even his singing. I can't emphasize this enough: there is no way Stolas could have ever made Stella happy that didn't clash with who he was as a person. This was not a failing on his part but genuine incompatibility. I don't think Stella wanted to communicate better or come to agreements. There was NO WAY for Stolas to 'win' or do things right.

A Broken Step Up the Social Ladder

I couldn't find a great place to put this, so I'm putting it here. One of the criticisms I see against Stella's character is that she's too traditional evil queen/evil stepmother coded, a shallow trope from a children's fairy tale. But these tropes, which we consider cliche now, exist for a reason.

The Goetia/upperclass of Hell seem to follow old European/royal hierarchies. This social structure is strictly upheld: Sins, Kings like Paimon, Princes/Princesses like Stolas and Octavia, middle ground royalty like Dukes, and non-royal nobility like Marquis/Earls/Barons. Stolas is a prince, but one far, far down the royal line, and Stella is a younger sibling from a Marquis family. Titles and inheritance follow children before spouses. Typically it would be oldest male child, though Via seems an exception. This means a few important things:

Stella's marriage bumped her up a couple rungs on the social ladder, but only technically. She is only associated with royalty by marriage and likely would not be considered a "real" princess, maybe a princess consort at best.

Stolas is, himself, so far down the line, and the Goetia so immortal, that he would likely never inherit more than he currently had. His position was stagnant.

As soon as Octavia was born, she became the direct heir. Stella had no stand to inherit anything from her family - that would go to Andrealphus - and now no stand to inherit from Stolas.

Bottom line: Stella is part of nobility but has no independent wealth. She only lives in Stolas' palace, or stays with Andre, because she's permitted to. Otherwise she would have nowhere to go unless her parents would take her back. Goetian culture makes women like her dependent on their relatives/spouses while insisting they uphold all the appearance of wealth and privilege. This dynamic can create two drastic ways to "fit in:" giving in and being submissive or eagerly upholding the system to control it. Take a guess which Stella leaned toward.

Fairy tale evil mothers/stepmothers are often in this position - the wives (usually 2nd or 3rd) of a prince or king who decide that the children threaten their potential security. Stella lacked the intelligence to realize this, though Andre did at the start of Mastermind. But it's important to note that Stella does exist in this form of upperclass limbo.

Perpetuating the System

Stella went from a potentially abusive/neglectful upbringing to living with a stranger in his home. She had been passed like a possession to someone who didn't know/connect with her and didn't share her ideals. Stella was also not raised to have close emotional connections to lean on besides Andrealphus. Stolas was equally a victim, stuck with a stranger in his home/bed and expectations to sleep with her and produce a child. Neither were given a choice. But Stella didn't care about this. Despite fitting into their culture, Stella was suffering from it as well, and chances are that Stolas was the easiest thing to blame.

Rather than forming a 'comfortable' more platonic marriage with Stolas, Stella turned her frustration on him, perpetuating the negative culture that raised her. Stolas tried to keep the peace, but peace was never what Stella was after. Stolas was her personal punching bag, every perceived flaw of his a further scapegoat. They were incompatible, but Stella treated that as his issue and not one brought on by their forced marriage/culture.

Stella used physical, verbal, and emotional abuse. She shamed him to her friends, dragging his reputation into the dirt. In drawing people to herself, she further isolated him, making him even more of a disappointment and an even easier target. She probably also kept her idea of speed-running through her 'requirements' of marriage - to the extent where she pushed sex on Stolas when he was unwilling and dissociated/couldn't look at her as a self-defense. Stolas' depression worsened over time, and he clearly grew numb and conditioned to the abuse, which probably escalated Stella's behavior. Abuse demands attention. If her behavior started to feel normal to Stolas, it was probably time to get worse. This is one of the many ways abuse/behavioral issues can escalate IRL - as the victim becomes accustomed to the abuser's behavior, it worsens in order to get a desired reaction.

And while i don't see it discussed much, I think Andrealphus had a key part in encouraging/aiding Stella's behavior. In Mastermind, he portrayed himself to court as the concerned, caring brother-in-law trying to look after his sister's weak, easily overpowered husband. No one doubted that the prince was easily manipulated and overpowered by an imp, a race they considered the lowest/weakest. I think this was a long game 19 years in the making, as Stella and Andre whittled away the public's opinion of Stolas and stripped away his autonomy together. The worse Stolas looked, the less people paid attention to him. The better Stella and Andrealphus looked in comparison and the more his position became 'theirs.'

And through this all, Stolas tried. In the morning part of The Circus, pre-Not Divorced party, with Octavia not present, he heard Stella mention him and turned around with a friendly face to speak. Only he was gestured by Stella to wait, and he realized he was the topic of derision again, not being spoken to.

Stolas endured childhood neglect and forced marriage/unhealthy cultural norms. He tried to be an accommodating husband and a good father despite this, tried his best to break the cycle at least for Octavia. And he did this even when she wasn't present. It was a genuine attempt. Stella didn't want to break cycles. She became part of the problem instead.

Not a Mother, Not a Family

I'm getting this out of the way - Stella is NOT a "good" mother and is shown since Season One to have never been. Octavia's childhood wall doodles didn't depict her, hinting at her lack of presence. In Loo Loo Land, Stella verbally insulted/threw things at Stolas in front of Octavia and left the room without even addressing that Octavia came in. Potentially projecting my own issues, but I've been in a similar situation to Via here and picked up on this scene on first watch. A responsible parent would not throw things at their spouse in front of their child. A responsible parent would not leave their child alone/unacknowledged to deal with the outcome of a domestic argument. Even if Stella and Stolas HAD been in a loving relationship that he destroyed - which they hadn't - Stella was neglectful to Via since her first non-pilot, in-show appearances and showed no care if her behavior hurt or caused issues. She was willing to abuse Octavia's father, plan to have him murdered and/or banished, and, as the story progressed, manipulate Octavia directly. In Sinsmas, she even made her feel shameful for wanting to speak to Stolas.

Season 2 stepped up the portrayal of abuse and neglect, but it was always there. Octavia was an egg that 'dropped' out of Stella - something that finally rid her of having sex with Stolas but did little else. She was a necessary part of Stella moving past her social obligations and not an important part of their 'family' like Stolas felt. Stella has never called Via her daughter in the show. The first time she addresses that Via exists is to accuse Stolas of "turning her against" Stella in Seeing Stars. I don't think she wanted or understood what a real relationship would be with Via, despite what Stolas tried. A child might be entertaining for outings but couldn't provide the kind of attention Stella sought. Any child Stolas raised wouldn't share Stella's conceited viewpoints, either. While Stella doesn't appear to hate Octavia, I think she's completely neutral, to a dangerous extent. This isn't too far from historic nobility/royalty, either, where marriage and children were ways to secure power and not done out of love. Stella is mostly indifferent to Via. She cares that she can potentially take Via's attention and opinions away from Stolas, but I think she doesn't deeply care about Via the way a parent is meant to.

Family Portraits: Hiding in Plain Sight

I've seen SO MANY people point out the family portraits as signs that Stella wanted to be a loving wife. But I disagree. Sure, Stella put on a smile for them, but she never touched Stolas or Octavia in them. The Loo Loo Land portrait is the only one where she even looks at either of them, and she has her arms crossed to avoid physical contact. In older artwork before her redesign, she IS touching Stolas, but by painfully gripping/pinching his wrist while he subtly winces/scrunches his eyes. This abusive dynamic is not a retcon. It was always planned.

Stella has had no individual portraits so far with Octavia, yet Stolas had them since Episode 2 (right above the doodles on her bedroom wall). And in the only portrait with just Stella and Stolas, Stolas is leaning away looking terrified. The illusion that she was a 'proper' wife/mother was just part of Stella's role and, I'm guessing, something Andre probably also encouraged. Again speaking from personal experience, this isn't uncommon for an abuser. It all helps strengthen the public's opinion that they're right, that their life is ideal and the victim is the one who breaks the family. Privilege can easily hide problems.

The "Not Divorced" Party

Just-a-theory note: I think Stella's short-sightedness caused the biggest fuckup in her/Andre's abuse that finally gave Stolas his break. The party in The Circus was couples only. Andre wouldn't have been able to attend, unable to help or to hover over Stolas if needed to keep him in line. Congrats, Stella. You dug your abusive schemes their own grave.

The Party as Abuse

For all of the "Stella lacks depth" arguments, this party was one hell of a confident power move on Stella's part. It wasn't a "let's celebrate our marriage" but a "let's celebrate me for sticking with this disappointment of a husband." Stolas might've been the prince, and this might've been his palace, but she was showing the upperclass of Hell that he was the lucky one to have her there. Skinny, lanky, boring, bad in bed: Stolas was so pathetic, but they still weren't divorced! This party gave Stella her social outlet while reminding Stolas that he was stuck with her and no one else wanted him.

Why Stolas Couldn't "Refuse" to Go

I don't like the argument that Stolas could just "refuse" to go to this Not Divorced party. That's not how abuse works. An abuse victim is never given a way to 'get out' of consequences, only minimize them. This party was intended to trap him.Stella planned it at their (Stolas') palace, in their ballroom, To the public eye, HE was co-hosting. She didn't tell him about it, leaving him to find out either when attendees showed up or when he read it as an advertisement in the newspaper. By the time Stolas knew this party was happening, he was left with the following options:

Attend the party, where he'd be miserable but present. Stella would get her party, shut up, and move on. As net-neutral a choice as possible.

Cancel the party/throw people out as they arrived, as there wasn't time to cancel it with enough notice. Further degrade his society's opinion of him as he became the prince who advertised parties at his own home only to kick everyone out. Live forever with the violent retaliation for "ruining" Stella's public image and "destroying" her ability to throw her beloved parties because now no one trusts to come.

Not attend the party and spend the night as a metaphorical prisoner in his room or study. Still hear the party down the hall/under his bedroom balcony and have people crawl around his home without keeping track of it. Get further derided as the prince who held an event at his own palace and couldn't be bothered to show up. Live for the next several weeks/months with whatever violent retaliation Stella created for further "embarrassing" her in public for being a no-show.

There was no option that didn't just make him a further target.

Stolas slept with Blitzø during a party dedicated to him being undesirable. He slept with a lowerclass imp in the bed he shared with Stella, who derided poor people and held her lofty position as key to her identity. At a party that made Stella look good for staying with him, he demanded a divorce. Suddenly, Stella's abuse tactics were blowing up in her face. Stolas was acting out of her control, and out of the social norms that she was so deeply entrenched into.

"Justified" Violence & Losing Control

From this point, Stella's verbal and physical violence escalated and become more open and public. From an outside perspective, it looked like a wife rightfully lashing out against an unfaithful husband. In reality, it was an abuser who suddenly had an easy excuse to retaliate against her victim. Not a reason, an excuse. She likely never considered that Stolas might actually act out against her. She'd spent 19 years pushing him into the mud, and Andre possibly spend those years convincing the public that Stolas was too weak and easily coerced to have autonomy. I think the both of them bought their own narrative so heavily that Stolas' attempts at autonomy in the show surprised them. Breaking away from an abuser is the most dangerous time for a victim.

To Stella, standard abuse was no longer enough. Stolas had slept with an imp, made them look like fools, and was continuing to sleep with the same imp. He didn't care how he looked to the other Goetia, and hating him publicly didn't shame him into submission. He stood in the way of the image Stella wanted. He went against the very conventions of their race. Stella didn't think about lines of inheritance, or that him dying would leave her in a more precarious situation. Short-sighted, impulsive, entitled Stella decided that it was time to fully exert her power as a member of the Goetian elite. Stolas had to go. Stella likely saw nothing unusual or extreme about her behavior. While her murderous response here seems extreme, it unfortunately reflects a situation actual victims find themselves in.

Then, while Stella was already plotting his assassination (and failed once), Stolas doubled-down and demanded the divorce. I find his, "I would be sorry if I had hurt you," line about sleeping with Blitzø fascinating, TBH. Because he is technically right. Stella had no emotional connection to Stolas. She is not hurt that he slept with someone else, that he betrayed some sort of trust and love between them. Stolas had no emotional obligations to Stella at this point, and never had as soon as the abuse began. But Stella doesn't value love or considering others: she values her image and position, and in her eyes, Stolas HAD hurt that. Does that mean Stolas was wrong to consider this not-cheating? Nope. Stolas' choices were his own. But the abusive dynamic, the control, the poor communication that led to Stolas' misery and his chaotic, risky way of breaking free: they were all of Stella's creation. If she had actually wanted a healthier situation between them, I'm convinced that nothing would have gone down like it did.

Stolas didn't care what the other Goetia thought of it, and using Andrealphus as a threat didn't work against him. Stolas was determined in a way Stella had clearly never seen before. He was completely out of her grasp. He kicked her out! In being kicked out, Stella no longer had a palace or wealth - she probably ended up moving in with her brother. At this point, she and Andre were both convinced that Stolas' things should be theirs, as they were superior in every way they valued. Stella knew that she wanted him dead, and once the divorce started, she wanted him to suffer, too. He had embarrassed her in public and now removed her from HER home. He deserved all of it.

And an important note: in real-life history, assassinations or executions for slights to a family (or perceived slights) were not uncommon. Stella just handled it in a brash, politically incorrect way, while Andre convinced her to play the longer political system instead. History is littered with royal/noble rivals who've done very similar things.

Stella Going Into Season 3

I do find it interesting how blind she is to her own vulnerabilities. Despite having Stolas out of the palace, she's in much the same position she was when she shared it with him, if not a riskier one. With the divorce, Stella is likely no longer a "princess," if she ever was one. A divorce probably makes her "less desirable" despite her beauty. She has no husband, no individual property, no independent wealth.

Also, Andre controls Stolas' palace while Via is underage, but once she reaches adulthood, everything goes to her. Andre and Stella living there or having any of the power/influence will be completely at her discretion. I see some of this becoming a conflict in S3-S4, and I don't expect Stella to suddenly develop a better conscious or more mothering instincts when it happens... especially if she continues to let Andre take the reins.

I think a lot of the backstory stuff I've guessed at is going to be shown in S3. We're going to see an explanation of how Stella was molded into who she is now, but it's not going to be an excuse. Stella thrives on the crooked system that made her and doesn't want to alter it. If anything, I expect her character arc to continue to make her worse while also showing her as Andre's willing pawn. Stella is a victim of a crooked system who has chosen to be part of it for her own benefit. If she doesn't "develop" in a positive way, I don't think it's because the writers are inadequate or that they skipped her over. It's because Stella is the type of individual who does not want to change or improve. She lets Andre do the heavier scheming work and still gets what she wants. Stella has no interest in breaking the problematic cycles of abuse. She sees them as correct, and she gets what she wants by perpetuating them.

[aly-kame]

It's my Helluva sone

[enotessa]

Baby Vassago. I think that he is the best brother for our Stolas

[toiletpudding]

I'm down for any fandom with this one, it doesn't have to be just Hazbin related. 💅

Just gonna tag different shows and shit I like down here 👇

[shameless-pug]

[madstheintrovert]

Besties.

It’s almost October.

Which means it’s almost Helluva Boss full episode time.

I am so fucking pumped.

Ok. So. Thoughts: I’ve been reading a metric (haha metric system) shit ton of stolas/blitzø fix-it fics and fuck I am so pumped but also so scared to see more. I cannot handle this level of miscommunication. But anyways here are things that I want to happen (even tho they won’t but whatever):

apology from stolas bc while blitzø is a great communicator who hurts all the feelz to the core (who needs to apologize for saying some unwarranted mean shit), stolas has said some fucked up classist bull. like honey, stolas you called blitzø “an impish little plaything”… AND HIS FUCKED UP MIND IS SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE HM RELATIONSHIP 👉👉

protective bestie fizz (mate I just love fizz and asmodeus getting way too invested in their friends’ romantic quarrels). gimme sum fizz being like stolas what the fuck did u do to blitzø or asmodeus being like birdie babes let’s talk this thru and figure out what went wrong on both sides

protective/worried loona - live laugh fuck stolas up sweetie

protective/worried octavia… i will be so cheesed if stella and fucking andrealphus manage to fucking turn octavia on stolas. like is stolas an excellent dad? haha. but based on the fucked circumstances does he actually care quite a lot for his kid… well YES

gimme some millie and moxxie being like tf stolas, gimme some blitzø actually acknowledging how great moxxie is

blitzø actually doing some self-care. like idk this wild thing called therapy woah. stolas could use sum of that too

also just some honest convo between blitzø and stolas about the past: being sold to stolas on his bday as a kid, the fire, the name calling in the relationship, stella’s abuse, cash’s abuse

down for some more verosika PLZ… she probs also needs some therapy?

fizz and barbie reunite? discussing blitzø… I’d like to see how she would react to fizz being like I made up w blitzø

Ok there is certainly more and I might edit but I must go exist as a sentient human. Let me know ur thoughts folks.

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Some of those teir makers but I fear my unpopular opinions show bad

[beauty-starts-with-frog]

Apparently I never posted this...whoops

[hyperthusiast]

My Top 15 Hellaverse Characters Cause Why Not?

Angel Dust, Lucifer, Sir Pentious, & Vox

I absolutely can't choose - I love them all so much. Vox is definitely the one I've latched onto as being the most outwardly obsessed with, but I relate to Angel and Lucifer, and Pentious is just precious (and dorky snake bois are my FAVE).

2. Husk

I just find his presence really comforting, and I enjoy how witty he is.

3. Fizzarolli

This one's tough for me cause I have a phobia of clowns, but I love Fizz SO MUCH.

4. Asmodeus

Is this just cause I love Fizz/Ozzie so much? Maybe; they're precious.

5. Stolas

I'm a sucker for someone with good character development - I see the arc he's going down, and I'm here for it.

6. Blitz

Like I said, I'm a sucker for character development. I couldn't stand Blitz at first, but I love his redemption arc.

7. Velvette

She's a bitch, but she's so fun.

8. Vaggie

Badass lady with good style for the win!

9. Millie

Ditto.

10. Cherri Bomb

Ditto again.

11. Verosika

I really grew to love her in Apology Tour.

12. Beelzebub

I love Bee so much - she's so fun and really sweet, too.

13. Rosie

Everyone's favorite motherly cannibal.

14. Niffty

I too like cleanliness, bad boys, and stabbing things.

15. Sallie Mae

I really hope we see more of her in future seasons, but when a girl's first line is "It doesn't count if they don't find the body" I gotta love her.

The order's kind of tough, but these are definitely the characters I would say I love from both these shows. Not saying I dislike all the other characters - Charlie, Luna, and Octavia I do still really like and barely miss the cut for this list. Others I'm more neutral on.

But feel free to ask my opinions on any character!

[colourstreakgryffin]

Can you do fizzaroli and asmodeus comforting their teenage adopted child after she/he/they had a rough day today?

Ooooh! My second Helluva Boss request, that’s so exciting! I can’t wait to work on some Helluva Boss! Let’s give some love to best Achillean couple!

Fizzarolli and Asmodeus- Ruby in the Rough

Fizzarolli is an energetic and somewhat crude man, that energy is also applied to his parenting style. He is caring and affectionate but also energetic and can accidentally be oblivious about his child’s problems with his jokester attitude. Though, he will make up for his mistake and unconditionally spoil his child rotten

Asmodeus, on the other hand, is the most doting and considerate parent of this pair. He’s more calm and a bit playful, though. He loves chatting and bonding with his child as often as he can, cuddling his child and can recognise every problem they may have instantaneously. He is one of the best comforters and huggers in Hell

Fizzarolli and Asmodeus, together as parents, as a married couple, as a father and father tag team, for their adoptive young teenage Hellhound daughter. You. A cute fluffy red fox-patterned and red fox-coloured Hellhound; Fizzarolli absolutely adores you and Asmodeus wants to squeeze your little cheeks

Asmodeus is the first one to notice his and his husband’s daughter’s distress. The way your fluffy tail is drooped and dragging on the floor, your voice is softer, your attention is averted. Fizzarolli, unintentionally, doesn’t notice your problems until his husband points it out

Then. As the usual wholesome doting couple they are, Fizzarolli and Asmodeus let you go to your bedroom and speak to one another in how they’ll approach comforting you. Of course, Fizzarolli offers buying you a gift whilst Asmodeus proclaims they should just raise up your self-esteem

And since they can’t decide inbetween each… they pick both

Fizzarolli barrages into your bedroom and basically throws a new phone case present into your lap whilst jumping up onto your bed to hug you as Asmodeus calmly sits down and hugs you right away after his husband, brushing through your hair gently with his mighty claws

After a bit, both fathers respond to hearing their precious fluffy Hellhound cry at her parents’ loving hugs. Crying in relief that both are immediately coming in to help you. You already feel so much better with both Fizzarolli and Asmodeus silently waiting for you to speak and hugging you

Of course… your problem is that people were mistreating you for being a Hellhound, a species of demons considered as meaningless animals, not as people. Asmodeus and Fizzarolli are already psychically speaking to one another on hiring assassins to kill the demons daring to harass their beloved little gemstone

“T-they… he was just so rude” You mumble out gently, long dog-like snout pressed into Asmodeus’ mighty big feathery chest whilst he holds both you and his husband, Fizzarolli to him whilst Fizzarolli keeps his thin but metallic robotic arms coiled around his hellhound baby girl like rope tied around your waist. His long imp tail wagging, Asmodeus couldn’t help but chuckle under his breath at seeing his imp lover so excited to hold their child, even when she is so upset

Asmodeus then whispers out, his dark blue beak slightly brushing over your soft hair, inbetween your tall fluffy red fox-like ears. Fizzarolli is mainly there for physical support, having the right as your upbeat and cheering up father whilst Asmodeus is the King of Lust and the king of Emotional Support, speaking for the both of the parents

“Darling. Whatever those fools said. They are wrong, you’re not ugly, you’re not a useless gross canine, you’re not a pet. You’re a beautiful, unique young lady that deserves all the love and admiration in the Lust Ring”

Just hearing Asmodeus’ smooth, silky and comforting voice alongside Fizzarolli’s warm big hugs is a one-two punch of extreme love to your heart and make all the dread, heartbreak and image problems wash away… well, mainly all of it. Though, both can sense when you’re not fully happy and both are still hugging you. The Sin holds both his husband and his daughter to his chest whilst the Imp snuggles his daughter in his husband’s hold

“I-I… I’m not a flea-ridden gross mangy mutt?” You ask gently, almost like a little child. Not even like a fourteen year old. It’s precious, both dads’ hearts are melting and Fizzarolli openly expressing how cute he finds their daughter with a soft ‘awww~!’ under his breath, even with his deep raspy voice. Asmodeus then nods and speaks gently again

It doesn’t take a big pep talk for this dads to cheer up their child from any problems she has

“Never, babygirl. You’re gorgeous, you’re talented, you’re filled with loveable joy and you have much ambition. You’ll slap down those fools when you become successful”

As soon as Asmodeus finished, Fizzarolli chimed in. Unable to stop himself from stating what’s on his mind and what he’d considered comfort. Asmodeus doesn’t really mind and your fluffy long tail flicks in curiosity at your Papa for what he wishes to add in to his husband’s truthful statements. As classic Fizzarolli fashion; it’s energetic, playful and a bit silly but passionate

Both promise they will make sure you’re successful, wealthy and beloved when you’re a fully grown adult

“You’re warm as well! People should be pouncing on you for snuggles and affection, rosydoll”

[cute-little-fly]

Hello!!

I am just another Helluva Boss fan out there. I enjoy to analyze shows, video games and books in my free time. I am 30+ she/her.

This blog is dedicated to the series Helluva Boss a fixation of mine and that I have enjoyed extensively. Sometimes I post randomly about other media or about other general subjects but it’s minimum.

I want to use this pinned post to keep here my analysis and important posts, so people can access them when I reference them and also I don’t lose them. I reblog a lot of stuff.

This blog is pro Stolas and pro Octavia. Here we try to analyze and understand all characters of this series in a nuanced way ❤️. Criticism and differing perspectives invited in a respectful manner.

Some personal posts:

Why I like and stan Helluva Boss

Depression and support

Opinion of Stolitz from your deranged fan

Debates and some asks:

Stolas and big gestures

Stolas dreams and fantasies (reply to other post)

Stolas and Via criticisms

Some motives why Stolas didn’t divorced

About Stolas’s fantasies (Sinsmas)

About I.M.P. sparing some targets

Stolas becoming a royal again and supporting other imps and hellborns from his position

Blitzø on Sinsmas

Character analysis/rambles/theories/speculation:

Millie:

Why I think Millie is a good character and how she is relatable to women

Octavia:

Octavia analysis (Sinsmas)

My thoughts about the Octavia situation right after rewatching Sinsmas

What will happen with Octavia??? (Post Sinsmas)

Stella:

The Stella discussion No one asked for

Stella backstory theory and about Stella being abusive (a thread of replies in response to other posts)

Stella and Goetia family abuse (reply to a very good post)

Vassago:

Vassago parallels with Stolitz and about the love triangle theory

Vassago and Stolitz Season 3 theory

Trial (from Mastermind):

A compilation of analysis about the trial with my thoughts

Folks… I think that “Stolas saving Blitzø shows he didn’t thought about Via” is one of the sentiments that confuse me more about how some people discuss the ending of Season 2.

About criticizing Helluva Boss using ad hominem arguments

How HB criticism differs from other shows

Also a fan of deltarune, currently busy reacting and playing the new chapters in my alternative account.

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Millie and her tiny husband moxxie

I think some of these characters need more body  dynamics. One big one small

[jollmaster]

Are you going to redesign IMP?

hi! I've already written my thoughts about HB characters in this AU in more details, you can read >here

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Me and my boyfriend decided to collab!

My boyfriend on the right @falsetoast07 and me on the left

His Oc Lycoris and mine Mothew!

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We're actually getting that crossover !!!!!!

I'm so happy thank you prime!!!!