#I’m sorry for discourse

[rotteneldritchhorror]

Sorry for discourse but I DID NOT JUST SEE SOMEONE LUMP AROALLO AND ALLOACE PEOPLE IN WITH STRAIGHTBIANS AS “Contradictory labels”

HUH.

Being allosexual and Aromantic isn’t contradictory??? Being alloromantic and asexual isn’t contradictory???

[luckthebard]

I’m going to say something I’ve been thinking for a long time. Travis/Chetney always bringing up Molaesmyr gets laughs but I think it is the largest factor which is making Matt’s attempt to have the Predathos question be a real debate, and the cast treating it as one not only fall flat for me, but have me ready to be incredibly disappointed in the storytelling of C3 depending on what happens.

Molaesmyr is the most pure example we have of Ludinus’s sins and what happens if he gets what he wants. He contacted Predathos and destroyed a civilization. Not only destroyed it, but twisted the animals, plant life, and people of the city and for hundreds of miles around into horrible, tortured and suffering mockeries of themselves, still haunting a perpetually dying space. That is what Matt presented when we visited Molaesmyr in episode 57 and, because Matt is good at horror and especially body horror, it really landed.

We’ve heard the cast say several times now that the characters definitely want to stop Ludinus from getting any power but after that “we’ll see.” We’ll see what? How is doing any version of what Ludinus wants a victory, even if he’s not involved? How are we considering that it might be fine to let Predathos out to chase/eat the gods or to control after seeing what it did to Molaesmyr? Do the people we saw as twisted and suffering mockeries of their former selves in that dead city not matter to the story at all? Are they just set dressing we’re supposed to forget?

Trying to present any version of what Ludinus ultimately wants, releasing Predathos, as a possible and even potentially correct or admirable endgame was, imo, a huge mistake after seeing Molaesmyr. As an audience of this story, it turns who we’ve been told are protagonists into villains. And while some stories can do that well, I don’t have confidence this one could, in large part because D&D is designed to be heroic fantasy. And seeing the heroes turn to villains at the last second will be even harder to swallow if the story tries to tell us they had a point.

[faerygardens]

I think the only reason dream hasn’t unleashed a twitlonger yet is because he knows the minute he does philza minecraft will go in for the kill

[sapphosclown]

ellie’s grief in the show is different than in the game because the show is on a new timeline.

ranty/rambly character analysis kinda idk

i keep seeing discourse ab this show and. i’m trying so hard not to care bc it’s all annoying to me lol but the one that keeps coming up is ellie wasn’t angry enough. but, the reason it feels that way and that maybe she’s “happier” in the show is because the timeline is different

in the game, joel dies, ellie is on her revenge path after a few days. in the show, ellie is physically hurt. she cannot go find anybody right now, she’s being held in the hospital while she recovers. also, she just lost the most important person in her life, she’s being kept under as much surveillance in that hospital as they can get. this whole process takes three months. that’s three months that ellie has already been actively grieving. all that rage is building inside her, probably venting in very strange ways as she’s being held up, but ultimately she’s trying to suppress it. why? she wants to leave, because she wants to fucking kill abby.

that’s why they make her talk to gail before she goes. that’s why she’s happy as a clam during the whole conversation. if you genuinely watched that and thought “wtf why is she so okay right now” i fear you were not the intended audience for this show. it’s been said over and over which is why it’s fascinating that people are still missing the whole point.

Ellie. Is. Lying.

She is lying to Everyone. she is fucking livid. she’s heartbroken, so much so that she’s numb. she’s coasting. the whole time she’s just coasting, waiting for the moment she explodes—the moment she finds abby.

that’s why you think she’s “out of character”—but she’s not. think about how she acted in season 1. she was silly and aloof and chatty and witty; and she was grieving. she had just lost her best friend and first crush and first kiss, the most important person in her life at that point had just died. but she put on that face. that goofy smile and stupid puns, that is the face she puts on while she grieves because she doesn’t want her devastation to be anyone else’s business. this is also interesting when you look at her behavior after the david situation, she is not herself. she’s fully dazed over and quiet. that was the tipping point for all this trauma that she just shut down. she couldn’t hide all of it anymore

you can also see it in the flashback episodes. she becomes more and more reserved (not necessarily angry, but certainly pulling away a lot) as she begins to really sort through truth and lies. that anger does come back until it has a reason to (eugene).

the timeline of ellie’s grief is so important because is shows that she has had ample time to put together a version of herself that works publicly. that falls apart when things start to get real, because what’s real is she is murderous and she is going to do terrible things (which she will end up regretting but that’s a whole other thought i have). dina’s “pep talk” wasn’t explaining to ellie why ellie needs to be angry, it’s her explaining why she, dina, wants to be a part of this. ellie knows why she is there, but she doesn’t want dina to be apart of the horrible acts she’s going to commit, she wants dina to remain her safe place and her sense of self—the self that still had joel. but selfishly, she can’t make dina not go, because she wants her there.

i also think that’s why ellie wasn’t mad about the pregnancy like she was in the game. it’s been months, the grief has settled into being familiar at this point, she’s not constantly on the edge; unlike the game where the wound was still fresh and that news was shocking, so since she’s hurting, she reacted hurt. but since in the show she has a bandaid on, she was able to avoid the hurt reaction.

lastly, to act like game ellie was constantly the worst version herself every minute she’s in seattle is just so dramatic and wrong. ellie and dina have nice moments, ellie has moments where she is sad and happy and angry and bittersweet. her grief is not simply rage—it’s human. that’s how the show is doing it too. it’s weird when someone you love dies because somehow, the world keeps spinning. it feels unfair, how dare life continue without someone i cared about with me. but it does, which means even as you miss someone you’re going to have happy moments, and excited ones, and silly ones. that doesn’t mean everything is ok, it just means something is right then in that moment.

anyway. i think the show is fine, it’s entertaining, it has solid enough plot, and more than anything it’s goal is to provoke thought and feelings, the same thing the game wanted. if you don’t like how they did it that’s fine, you can play the game. but if you’re giving the show a chance, give it a real one. contextualize s2 within the show, not the game, because they are different and if you keep mixing up content then yeah, it’s going to feel like a bad show. so everyone chill out and just have fun watching a little show damn

[lilimonarch]

“I’m sorry I said a slur it was bad” -> 30 seconds

“Tommy you are a terrible person who manipulated me, you were basically an adult anyways, I never harassed your mom and texting her isn’t weird in fact I was kind to her, you accusing me and my friends of sexism is evil (he also referenced that this was fair and they have been told they were weird towards women by other parties in HIS OWN STREAM, backtracks in the video), you love child labor, you are racist, where are your receipts, but also you were my friend and you are a good person because you used to like me at some point BUT IF YOU DONT LIKE ME ANYMORE might as well take down every time you ever interacted with me and my family because it means you never liked me and btw you are kind but also I’m not sorry to you” -> NINE WHOLE MINUTES ON A MAIN CHANNEL VIDEO + A CRASHOUT LIVESTREAM OF THREE FUCKING HOURS

Chat we are back in the fucking building again 😭😭

[commander-fox-enthusiasts]

Every-time I think about a Fox ship I don’t get the appeal of I think about when people make the argument ‘they haven’t even met in canon’/‘they hate each other in their one canon interaction!’ and remember how dumb that idea is.

This man deserves everyone

[theotherbuckley]

Not to spread discourse but I’m gonna because wdym BoBs are saying “that LFJ interview was clearly conducted by a Tommy stan it’s hilarious” as if literally all the other fuckijg journalists aren’t biased buddies???? IM SORRY WHAT.

[thatmexisaurusrex]

If you’re making excuses for what happened last night on 9-1-1, just. Unfollow me. Block me. Whatever.

I’ve never been triggered by a show in my life.

I was in a panicked state the moment that scene started. The claustrophobia of it; the way Eddie talked; the way he moved through that scene - it brought me into the mindset of when I get into arguments with a person who essentially uses any moment I dare show emotion to make me feel immature for even feeling anything and showing it; that what I’m feeling makes me illogical or irresponsible or unable to come up with reasonable arguments.

It took me back to the feeling after those arguments - where I have this deep rooted anxiety need to either clean my entire apartment or jog until I can’t move because if I didn’t I was a terrible person; that I can’t eat because if I did I was a terrible person.

And whatever, you didn’t have that reaction to the scene probably.

I don’t expect everyone to have that feeling.

I don’t expect my reaction to be universal because my reaction was very much rooted in something specific to me.

But the way Buck flinched? The way he shrunk and lost all fight? The way he took it and took it and took all that anger with no way out and with no moment where they work through the fight? Only to be told that a note that sounds like the person is leaving isn’t the reasonable assumption? Made to feel dismissed like an idiot for doing so? The way Eddie blindsides Buck with loved ones in a way that gave him no alternative by to play happy, put together, good host? The love bombing with no remorse on Eddie’s part for how he acted wildly inappropriate the night before?

I don’t care about grief. Grief isn’t a good excuse. Eddie almost killed a man during an illegal boxing match due to his anger. Eddie destroyed a room once due to a PTSD episode. Eddie was supposed to have worked through at least some of this shit years ago in therapy.

What happened was too much. It went too far. There’s working through your feelings, even if it means being angry to do so, and there is using your friend as a verbal punching bag after you did something shitty only to love bomb the friend the next day.

And maybe the fight would not have been so bad if Buck didn’t fucking flinch when Eddie grabbed Buck’s shirt and cornered and crowded him on that kitchen counter. Maybe it wouldn’t be so bad if Buck didn’t fold to the anger; shrink and take it like he deserves it. Maybe it wouldn’t be so bad if it didn’t feel like Buck was trying to work through the fight they had the night before only to get an ominous note. Maybe it wouldn’t be so bad if Eddie didn’t ambush Buck with people he loved right after and made Buck put on a dog and pony show for guests lest he bother them with his fucking emotions he was screamed at for even having the night before.

But that did happen.

And I don’t expect the show to fully apologize for shit or work through it step by step. That’s not practical for the kind of show it is.

But fuck, man.

The panic never left me that night.

That feeling?

That unease in me that the show gave me never left me.

I cried a bit.

On and off.

Throughout the night.

I spent the entire night feeling not quite fight or flight, but frozen and frayed like a live wire; unable to stop moving and forcing myself to eat dinner despite everything in my brain telling me not to.

It never left me.

I had a nightmare last night.

Hell, I’m feeling it come back to me a bit just thinking about it but I honestly woke up so emotionally exhausted. My emotional exhaustion is keeping the feeling at bay.

I loved Eddie Diaz. He was my messy but well meaning guy. I really did love his character.

I’m not sure if I can watch him on screen with everyone being normal and cool with him after what happened last night.

It’s okay if you can.

I just don’t know if this feeling will come back if I see him again. I don’t know. I know I’m never watching that episode again. I’ve never had this reaction to fictional tv shows before. I just don’t want to feel like this again.

So, have your opinions.

Whatever.

That’s your prerogative.

I just don’t want to see them if it’s to defend what happened last night with Eddie.

[ovaryacted]

Even though I just reblogged @almostempty’s very detailed and intricate post before this, I just wanted to say that I am generally getting tired of the brainrot when it comes to how people perceive Joel Miller & Pedro Pascal as a whole.

I already had a feeling that people were going to conflate Clint Flood with Joel, like it was doomed from the start. People see Pedro’s broad ass wearing plaid with a scar and having an inclination to violence, and instantly snap their fingers and say “THAT’S JOEL MILLER!” Believe me, I get the hyperfixation around him, I get that there’s no changing of the popularity of TLOU and the fact that Pedro is without a doubt Joel Miller and that won’t change, nor would I want it to change. But just the way people have this obsessive nature when it comes to him and his other characters is so weird. I mean, I don’t get why people can’t just enjoy Pedro’s roles individually without automatically making them a Joel-adjacent, if that were the case he would just play Joel and he already is doing that. We have Joel Miller already, he’s done with that, we can have all of his other characters the way they are as intended and enjoy them on their own.

Obviously I’m not trying to be messy cause on my end I barely interact with Joel Miller content anymore, I barely talk about him cause everything about the show is upsetting me, and everything is filtered so I barely see shit nowadays and I’m having a lot of fun with The Pitt content in comparison to before because it’s so refreshing and new. But it’s really fucking frustrating when people just make everything synonymous with Joel Miller’s character archetype as if he’s the only male character to exist. People don’t even acknowledge Game! Joel Miller sometimes when his writing and characterization is damn near perfect and the show doesn’t do him justice (sorry), and that’s fine to criticize because we have the source material to make that comparison. It’s like people only have one setting when it comes to writing male characters: older, morally and physically grey, men who shoot with guns pew pew. There’s so much more that goes into both Joel & Clint, and trying to make every single character or role Pedro plays into a Joel Miller twin is a disservice to his range as an actor.

As someone who actually went out of their way to watch Freaky Tales in theaters and really loved Clint as a whole within the world we were introduced, I’m just annoyed that he’s going to turn into another Joel lookalike on top not getting a proper release because TLOU premiered a week after the movie came out and we couldn’t even enjoy that. Joel Miller is incredibly popular, that much is obvious and with Pedro’s popularity it just adds to it, and sometimes I wished that wasn’t the case was all. But it is what it is, and idc how this sounds I’m just mad about it.

Anyway, please actually watch Freaky Tales if you’re able to instead of just going off of appearances cause then you’ll see how they’re different characters. I love Clint Flood, if I write for him then I’ll let y’all know cause he really is fucking cool and interesting and I really do like him. Top 4 on the Pedro Pascal character list and he ain’t #4.

[vaaaaaiolet]

the plagiarism on this site is becoming so blatant and shameless recently idk what’s going on. sorry i woke up pissed off i think plagiarizers are the scum of society and you don’t have to read this LMAO

like imagine having the BALLS to copy someone’s fic and do it on the same site and FANDOM as them thinking you’re never going to get caught. crediting someone (after you get called out btw) doesn’t count when you do it as damage control after getting tons of notes!! or when you post the same fic on different platforms without credit bc the author can’t check you there!! and what pmo the MOST is that people end up not gaf bc they have more content to consume (notice how i didn’t say fic bc these people are not writing fic, they’re rehashing somebody else’s writing and that disqualifies their “writing” as fic imo). i’ve seen it happen in the lads fandom earlier this year and i’m praying it doesn’t happen to re on that scale.

we as readers have to be vigilant and BLOCK these people bc continuing to support them even if you’re a lurker sends the message that plagiarism can get excused with a slap on the wrist. there’s a reason plagiarism gets you expelled from literally EVERY place of learning bc of the precedent it sets. why would you want to create anything original when you can get just as much credit for stealing someone else’s work?? and why would you want to create anything original if it can get stolen just like that with zero recognition for your labor?? fandom needs to get more disgusted with plagiarism. it’s bad for readers and worse for writers. let’s not normalize this.

[azaharinflames]

went to my parents’ place to spend the night because i didn’t feel like being alone, and my mom being my mom, made it so i just started crying to her. like full on sobbing.

and talking with her made me realize why this truly is upsetting.

it’s because we got hate when what we tried really hard to give was love and patience. we tried to be the bigger person and received a fuck off. and this in no way means next time i won’t choose to be the bigger person. it just means that makes me sad.

and it makes me sad because they also rewarded hate. they rewarded hate with love, and that just feels even worse.

in a week where everything has been so scary, and where hate has been so predominant, we truly were expecting to feel comforted by our comfort show.

and instead we got what we got. and now the comfort show is just another part of the hate.

[poppyseed-cookie]

Call me crazy but I just feel like if you’re hating on a ship where one character represents Deceit and the other represents Truth, and you’re trying to prove to the shippers that they’re wrong, and you do so by taking everything the Deceitful one says at face value and just completely dismissing everything the Truthful one says, then perhaps you need to reflect and realize that the one twisting canon to fit their vision IS YOU? Just a thought 😭

[charlottcharles]

"andor is so relevant right now!"

mon mothma realized her liberal legislative methodology was completely ineffective under an inherently corrupt system and the only way she could make real change was by funding a people's revolution, one which she will assume leadership of in order to overthrow the system completely. andor was always relevant.

[styxhuntress]

Ok but like… I’ve been avoiding saying anything about this but it keeps making me laugh whenever I think about it so here: Warning, this is not exactly Buddie Fandom Friendly.

Before BuckTommy got together I started following this one tiktoker who was reacting to watching 9-1-1 for the very first time and I loved it. I followed them, and kept laughing along with them and interacted with their videos. And when the first kiss happened it seemed at first that they were genuinely rooting for them. But then they starting getting toxic, insulting Lou and saying shit like “get this man off my screen” whenever he appeared in an episode. I stuck around to see the beginning of this person’s descent into toxic buddie fan behavior and before it got too bad I unfollowed and started skipping all their videos whenever they showed up on my FYP. However I did not block them as they weren’t acting as toxic and terrible as other toxic fans and their non-911 videos were still very enjoyable and entertaining, so I didn’t block them.

And honestly I am so glad I didn’t.

When the BuckTommy Hookup happened a couple episodes ago I came across this TikToker’s live stream after the episode finished airing and was able to witness them crashing out in real time, like full on oscillating between full on in shock, semi catatonic, not wanting to believe it actually happened and actually having a meltdown/trying to not to rage out. Like actual breathing techniques that they teach you in therapy.

And it was hilarious. I was full on belly laughing at their reaction. And maybe that’s awful of me and maybe it’s also somewhat toxic behavior, but honestly I don’t really care that much. Cause after all the shit they were spouting, all the insults and attacks towards BuckTommy, Tommy and Lou as a real person, it was cathartic to watch this person lose it in real time. Watch them struggle put a Buddie lens on the event, and desperately trying (and failing) to find a way to make it fit into the “Tommy is a plot device” “BuckTommy Bones” stances that the toxic fans subscribe to. In the end they couldn’t and wound up having to avoid the subject of the ship and the characters all together to talk about the rest of the episode.

Of course later they would go and use all the bob takes that are absolutely not accurate or true and completely disregard what the actors and directors themselves are saying but still, for a few moments, I felt vindicated.

[ruffbunny]

“growing up is going from billdip to billf/rd” growing up is realizing shipping is harmless and we all have bills and shit to pay and god above it does not actually matter outside of the online discourse bubble like…. It really doesn’t.

Please just go do something that makes you happy instead of being miserable and militant about thought crimes. Pleeeeaaaseeee Fortnite is free, the local animal shelter would love some volunteer work, there’s probably a shocking number of nature trails in your area, you could make bread😭

[willestears]

ABDICATION TRUTHERS HOW ARE WE FEELING?!!