There are too many people who, upon encountering a woman character with too many specific traits and flaws established, lose the ability to identify with them and turn to secondary, less active, less developed characters that they can more easily project into.
As in, they'll reframe the whole story in their head and insist the true protagonist is a secondary or tertiary character. That the original protagonist is a 'Mary Sue' not worth regard. And it's weird because so often women characters are also criticized and labelled as Mary Sue's for the opposite reason as well.
I do not mean said secondary/tertiary character is bad or uninteresting. I simply mean it's inaccurate to frame them as the protagonist, and I do often see said characters proclaimed to have traits they don't possess (often traits taken from the protagonist).
It's a phenomenon not restricted to women, but I have noticed it's more common with women. For some reason they rarely do this to the men of the story. And I feel like there's some internalized misogyny in there.
I see it on both the audience end and occasionally even the writer's end. *cough* The Vampire Diaries *cough*. For now, I'll call it the Trapped in a Island with Josh Hutcherson phenomenon where Jenny Nicholson points out that the author wrote a self-insert, got jealous of the self-insert when she took on too much of a life of her own, and proceeded to write a new self-insert to push the old one aside.
Some examples:
Rhaenyra → Alicent, Helaena, and occasionally Baela & Rhaena (might also be some ageism in there too)
Arya & Dany → Sansa, the Dead Ladies Club, Brienne on occasion
Elena Gilbert (TVD) → Caroline Forbes
Those are the most blatant examples, but I swear this phenomenon is EVERYWHERE.
Anyways, I'm looking for more specific examples so I can better look into it. If you can think of another one, do me a favour and drop it below!
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The originals next generation: Klaroline version
Adreena Rebekah Forbes Mikaelson
Faceclaim: Lili Reinhart
Adreena is the first daughter of Klaus Mikaelson and Caroline Forbes
She is the older half-sister of the Saltzman twins, and Hope Mikaelson
Everyone calls her Audrey or Reena for short
She is the oldest amongst her siblings and takes after her mother, but when enemies come after her family, her father's darkside shows completely
She is a werewolf vampire hybrid like her father but prefers her vampire side over her werewolf side
Her wolf form is golden dirty blonde fur when she transforms into her wolf form
She makes sure to keep her temper in check 24/7
She attempts to keep her family in line (it's very difficult)
Like her mom, she is a bit of a control freak and perfectionist
She is Aunt Rebekah's favorite, and they both have a love of fashion
Audrey is extremely overprotective of her family and loves her family very much
Audrey loves Hope, and the Saltzman twins
She helps out at the Salvatore boarding school
Believe it or not, she was conceived during the forest incident between Klaus and Caroline
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Cornelius Finn Forbes Mikaelson
Faceclaim: Rudy Pankow
Cornelius is the second child of Caroline and Klaus
Like his sister, he is also a hybrid, but he prefers his werewolf side
He takes after Klaus due to his temper, lack patience, and love for a good fight
He also takes after his uncle Kol by being the mischievous, sarcastic troublemaker in the family, along with being the most playful and unserious among his family
His wolf form is golden blonde fur that is lighter than Audrey's
Loves Madi Gras and walks through the streets of New Orleans
Has a love for jazz, rock, and country music
He loves making his family smile and turning their frowns upside down
Can secretly juggle
Can't dance to save his life, but that doesn't stop him from hitting the dance floor
Is not afraid to embarrass himself in public
He's normally never serious, so when the situation calls for to be serious, he's completely unrecognizable .
He is extremely intelligent but doesn't show it a lot
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Henrik Elijah Forbes Mikaelson
Faceclaim: Jace Norman
Henrik is the second son and third child of Klaus Mikaelson and Caroline Forbes
Henrik is named after Klaus's younger late brother Henrik
He is the middle child, and surprisingly enough, for everyone, he was born a tribrid like Hope (the witch genes from Klaus's mother snuck in)
He is a year younger than Hope and tries to keep all three parts of himself in check
He spends time with his aunt Freya and Davina and Uncle Kol a lot since they have a lot of knowledge about the witch side of their family
He loves his family and his siblings
Like Hope, he also feels a bit different, but he also knows his family will be there for him no matter what
He is pretty serious and is the strategist in the family. He plans the alliances and makes sure that when his cousins and siblings take over, they don't make any more enemies than they already inherited from their parents
He also gets along well with the Saltzman twins and loves geeking out on magic with them and the Bennett sisters
His wolf fur is dirty blonde and darker than both his older brother and sister
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Clara Evelyn Forbes Mikaelson
Faceclaim: Emma Myers
Clara is the youngest child of Klaus and Caroline
She is also a werewolf vampire hybrid
Everyone calls her the baby wolf of the family
Like her older brother Cornelius, she likes seeing her family happy
She easily makes friends and is very social
She also knows all the drama that's happening in Salvatore boarding school and in New Orleans (she makes sure her family updates her daily)
She can easily get away with anything, and Klaus is weak with her
She is master of blackmail and negotiating
Like her father, she has an artistic soul and likes to paint with Hope a lot (sister sister time yay 😊 )
Despite being the youngest, she can be very intimidating since she takes after both her parents but has her mother's intelligence and nose for drama
Her wolf form is platinum blonde, almost white
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TVD next generation: Bonkai version
Abigail "Abby" Lucille Parker Bennett
Faceclaim: Zendaya Coleman
Abigail is the firstborn daughter of Malachai Parker and Bonnie Bennett
She is next in line to become leader of the Gemini coven (Kai is the current leader)
She takes after both her parents in appearance, but she is more like her mother in personality
Bonnie did not leave Kai in the prison world for the heretics, but they still found a way out. During that time, Kai was under strict surveillance by his coven and his sister Jo
Jo still died (by the heretics this time), Kai became the new leader of the Gemini coven with Bonnie at his side (she is the true mastermind)
Like her dad, she is a Siphoner witch.....and she also inherited his dark humor
Her dad helps train her and the Saltzman twins to control their abilities (and not siphon the life out of a person)
Abby's mom is currently pregnant with twins
Kai, Bonnie, Caroline, and Alaric are searching for a way to stop the merging process
Abigail is incredibly smart and sneaky.
She knows how to manipulate her way out of the situation
Loves her family very much
Teases the twins out of love
Abby loves to test the limits of magic due to her curiosity
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Sheila Amelie Parker Bennett
Faceclaim: Madison Pettis
Sheila is the second daughter of Bonnie Bennett and Kai Parker
She is younger than her older sister Abby by 2 years, 3 months, and 16 days (she keeps count for some reason)
She takes after her mother in looks, but she is more like her father in personality entirely
Unlike her father, she is a witch like her mother
Sheila often lets Abby siphon her
Will not hesitate to use her magic on someone who threatens her family
She is terrified for her cousins and for her unborn siblings due to the merge
She and Abby try to look for information at the Salvatore boarding school
Abby and her dad call her Shey Shey for short
Abby and Sheila have secret contact with their mom's side of the family
Sheila and her family try their absolute best not to get too involved in vampire drama (it's not going well)
Sheila is best friends with Rosabella
Bonnie sees a lot of her grandmother in her daughter Sheila (not just because of her name)
Damon calls her a "mini Bonnie"
Sheila and Abby explore the mysteries of magic together and even have their own grimoir
Both her and Abby tease their dad on how whipped he is about their mom
Kai loves his family very much and worships not just Bonnie but his two daughters as well and is a hard core feminist with his girls
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