#M&J2

[cendres-et-volcans]

Au bout de quelques rendez-vous, je ne touchais quasiment plus le clavier. Je n'aimais pas la raideur un peu surprise avec laquelle tu tournais la tête de mon côté lorsque je commencais a taper quelques notes. J'avais pensé chercher un clavier plus silencieux mais le projet n'a jamais dépassé le stade de la recherche Amazon.

Je notais simplement la date et le contexte, puis je repoussais le clavier pour dégager un peu de place... le dictaphone a droite et le bloc de vélin bleu.

Je t'écoutais parler, stylo ouvert, je prenais quelques rapides notes, le temps et mes commentaires en italique, quelques idées soulignées. De quoi être plus efficace a la ré-ecoute pensai-je.

En réalité, je buvais tes paroles, j'avais toujours aimé les histoire, le narratif pur. Et la, piedsnu sur un canapé, tu me racontais la mienne, un peu, vue par quelqu'un d'autre.

C'était vertigineux, jouissif, gênant parfois, frustrant souvent. Moi je jonglais avec les pronoms personnels dans ma tête et m'interdisais de refaire le passé a ma convenance.

Tu ne m'as épargné aucun détail, toutes tes déceptions, mes erreurs, les tiennes,tes aventures , tes expériences sexuelles une par une, sans fard. Je retenais mon souffle souvent. Stoïque pour ne laisser transparaître aucune émotion.

[borgialucrezia]

"[Saying goodbye to Sam and Dean] was the most difficult thing to do, but in the most beautiful way. Because we earned the right to have that moment, and it was special, but it was really difficult and emotional." — Jensen Ackles, spndallas 2023

[wincestwhispers]

Cockles saying that misha and jensen are good friends when Jensen, with jdm, is told that misha talks shit because of his aggression. Cockles are delusional as fuck

that is a great example, one of many, that shows just how.. not good friends Misha and Jensen are. i have not and will never understand cockles. now i’ll be honest, i don’t watch that much content of the actors or panels (for a few reasons but mainly just that i’m not as into the actors as i am the characters) however, any clips that i do see, especially from recent times, do not paint them as good friends unless it’s Misha spouting shit.

I will note that i don’t think Jensen is ever going to outright say anything against Misha or being friends. it would be a PR nightmare, and he’s had enough of those. Frankly Jensen’s body language with him and the general lack of care/knowledge he shows about Misha nowadays says a lott. Whereas you can obviously see that Jared and Jensen are still very close friends- their kids are even friends. It’s a stark difference and imo, that alone is enough evidence for me to say that cockles really do be delusional

[fer3112]

It's crazy to see the same middle aged women who were bullying teens for shipping destiel many years ago come here and feel pressed about phan to the point of tagging their posts anti-phan lmao I never thought my old fandom and my current phandom would collide like this anyway vote phan and if any destiel shipper still follows me help us for old times sake

[wickedboyking]

we all hate bitches like you

thank all that is holy, bitches are not like me, they are better

[soulhusbands]

"When they meet in the locker room again, Jared points to a line he underlined and bolded. 

Jensen flies on the ice with the grace of a dancer.

The smile Jared receives immediately afterwards proves two things: Jensen appreciates how ballet brings out the best in his athletic career, and Jared is utterly, horribly, terribly smitten."

Swans and Skates by compo67

Art by Alexiescherryslurpy

Jared/Jensen

Au - Kid fic

Slice of life - Sports and Ballet

Explicit

30k

[more on pinboard]

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[spngirlpolls]

I'm begging you to talk about Wincest. As a certified Wincest girlie, pls, we can take it. I need to know.

not a wincestie (heller bc you gave that gay angel the female love interest storyline! that’s on you kripke!) but i have a net positive view of wincest and i think it’s an interesting lens. spiritually i agree with viewing the show as an american gothic and incest historically being a theme in those stories, and how enmeshment and the cycle of abuse impact sam and dean as brothers and sons. maybe better writers on a better network would’ve explored that. but unfortunately it was on the cw! so most of these discussions are rooted in The Themes (cool) or commonly accepted fanon (boring) also dgaf about yaoi or m/m ships generally as a lesbian. im here for the webweaves and amvs and that’s it!!!

overall i think their relationship is more fucked up and twisted if it’s not a sexual thing. they are objectively Not Normal about each other possessive, cross boundaries, and ruin each other’s chance to be normal because of the family enmeshment rooted in their childhood that they keep repeating. it’s cult-like and insane to everyone else but it’s all they know. idk diminishing all that to “j2 wants to fuck each other” misses the root of the winchester tragedy imo.

the separation of wincest/hellers is so bizzare to me, i follow/interact with both. frankly i think they are the segments of the viewership that have the most in common. but again i have nonpopular thoughts on supernatural so maybe im crazy.

so tldr: cool with it bc i like discussing The Themes but completely uninterested in like samdean art/fanfic fanon whatever. those brothers had a fucked up crazy dynamic and i wont ignore that just because they also had a fucked crazy dynamic with the angel too!!!

[hippychick006]

wait omg what's the story of j nearly decking m??

It was years ago, J2 had a panel where they shot Destiel down, meanwhile M had his own panel where he queerbaited and also said something like he’d go speak to Jensen to sort him out (on Destiel). Jared was pissed, there’s video.

This was the time when they thought he could be reasoned with but learned that he cannot be reasoned with. He says/does what he wants and doesn’t care he’s lying to people or causing problems for others. All he cares about is himself and what he’s getting. Actually, if he’s causing chaos and misery for others, he’s happier.

[walkergirlsposts]

You should really see the blogs where the hellers are working overtime to prove that everything that happened in jibcon was PR. They are trying so hard saying that whatever interaction j2 had in this con is not real. Now they say they don't need any actions to prove their favourite is bff with j. One of the funniest is the real love is when m hugging and kissing jen and not what happened here with j2. So according to them it was full pr. You should atleast read some. How tables are turned.

I've seen the usual suspects, anon. The twisting they are doing! 😂😂 Misha put up boundaries, Daniela feels "threatened," because, reasons.......Jensen is holding Jared's hand because Clif isn't there to do it, they need to "free" Jensen of Jared, poor whittle musty being mistreated by mean ole Daniela, you name it, I've seen it all. We've been having a good laugh over it!! They really are bitter they got nothing this weekend and despise Daniela. 😂😂

[nancylou444]

Hi Nancy,

I hope it's okay I turn to you with this, but I just recently joined spn tumblr so I haven't really discovered many blogs I share my opinions with yet (though I did find some awesome blogs I'm excited to follow, but most of them only really talk about spn and the characters and not the actors, and this ask is concerned with j2m and danneel). Buckle up, this will be long because I tend to over-explain myself. Sorry in advance.

So I've been in the fandom since 2018 but haven't really paid attention to the cast other than watching some gag reels/bloopers, interviews with j2(m) and clips from cons. I never dug deep into the relationships/dynamics of the cast members (and also took like a 3-year break from the fandom so I'm not at all up-to-date)

I like to think I'm pretty good at reading people (in that when I find someone likeable they tend to prove themselves to be a good person and when I dislike someone seemingly for no reason I usually discover some pretty fucked up things about that person later on. Obviously with celebrities you never actually know what they are like irl but so far I've been right about people as far as I know.)

All this to say that I had an inkling about misha from the start, even though I never cared enough to do my research and justify my dislike towards him. I always got this pick me vibe from him, and like he's trying to insert himself into the j2 friendship to seem more relevant and likeable. And it seemed pretty clear to me that he is clinging to jensen and making it look like they are besties, ignoring jared or making him look bad as much as he can get away with only to fuel destiehellers in their belief that jensen also supports destiel and that jared is to blame for it not being canon. I've since found your masterpost about why you're anti misha, and finally feel justified in my feelings towards him, so thank you for collecting his shitty displays in one place.

So what my ask is about (getting to my point at last) is that in my browsing the anti misha tags I came across the anti danneel tag and decided to check it out out of curiosity (and arrogance, as I wanted to see if I was right about danneel as well, since I always got a bad vibe from her too (even though I never actually paid attentionto her)). And I did find some things that makes me think her and jensen's relationship isn't a healthy one built on mutual love and respect, and is possibly even abusive. I'm inclined to believe it not only because of my own instinct, but because of a video I saw where jensen's body language screamed that he is uncomfortable while sitting next to danneel who was rubbing/petting his back (though I don't have context for that clip so there might be another explanation for his body language that I'm not aware of). However the only 'evidence' about her being abusive was instagram posts that were (slight) jabs at jensen, that could just as likely be playful teasing as actual bullying depending on their relationship dynamic and whether the teasing is reciprocated imo (& there's no way of knowing how they interact in private so who knows). I'd be curious to know if there are more concrete instances of her treating jensen badly or generally being a bad person, but I couldn't really find anything useful in the tags.

But anyways, reading these posts I discovered yet another anti tag, this time anti jensen, which I definitely did not expect. I obviously know about The Winchesters drama but I thought they moved past it and are tight again, so I'm confused about what other reason there is for people to be anti jensen. I've seen some posts discussing him not standing up for jared/not being very supportive of him, siding with misha (though I'm especially sceptical about that one) etc.

I would like to be better informed about these things without having to watch hours of footage to analyse their interactions or read through hundreds of posts that either have some proof or not, without having to decipher whether what someone says is their opinion/interpretation or actual things that happened. From looking through some of your posts you seem to be well informed and trustworthy, so I'd kindly ask if you could explain the situation to the best of your knowledge or refer me to someone who has more information regarding danneel and jensen's relationship as well as jensen and jared's and can provide receipts. Thank you so much, and again sorry for this super long ask <3

Hello my darling.❤️ Nothing to apologize for.

@lightofraye recently posted an awesome anti danneel post with pics and videos. HERE

As for anti Jensen, for me, the prequel mess is a done deal. J2 have moved on from it and are besties again. I have the 'anti jensen' tag blacklisted. I really don't see him picking misha over ANYONE, let alone Jared.

Maybe @its-sassyboots @hologramcowboy or @walkergirlsposts can help you with the anti Jensen stuff.

[jensenscomedyelbows]

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SPN FIC REC FEST #11

All-Time Favorites/Free Recs

The only pairing is Wincest

Most are explicit, but those that aren’t are marked accordingly.

THE FIREFLY THAT LOVED METALLICA by fleshflutter

Rated R, but WARNING: MAJOR CHARACTER DEATH/RESURRECTION. I passionately adore this indescribably poignant story. Get tissues.

LIKE STARING INTO THE SUN by nyxocity

It was never about the girls. It was about them.

A new OFC in each part, until there are no more FCs at all and it’s just them.

There is also a sequel, linked to the original

RUN IT ALL OVER (THE WEST SERIES) by runawaydr3amer

I LOVE this series with a passion not too dissimilar from Sam and Dean’s for each other

When you live a life like theirs, chasing tail isn't always an option. But sometimes you just want someone to touch your dick, and your brother’s hand is as good as any.

THE LAST OUTPOST OF ALL THAT IS by gekizetsu

I’m sure this will end up on multiple lists during this event, as it’s a fandom classic that everyone loves. I don’t even want to try to describe it. 60K words. Casefic. First time. I think there’s some H/C. Beautiful. So so sad. Joy amidst the wreckage and heartache. I love it so much I should probably get the title tattooed on my body somewhere

NOT FOR SAMSON IN THE TEMPLE by maygra-fic

Coda to my all time favorite, see above. You have to read that one first to truly appreciate how this coda maintains the tone, voice, and prose quality. You feel like it’s from the same author, but surprise! it’s not, and that’s remarkable. Mature Sam and Dean. Elderly Sam and Dean

THE GHOST OF SOMEBODY AT HIS SIDE by runedgirl

Prepare to weep. When I need pain, this one guarantees I’ll get it. Author Description: The night before Sam Winchester meets with his 12th grade guidance counselor for the second time, something very bad happens. One of those somethings that takes only a ridiculously short amount of time – in this case, about three minutes – yet manages to change the course of two lives forever. Or: Sam goes to Stanford, and takes most of Dean's heart with him.

COGNITIVE DISSONANCE by Morgan

This one just…stuck with me. The events that unfold are awful for Dean in particular, but I’m sure it wasn’t a great time for Sam, either. Bobby makes an appearance. Angst for daaaaays, and NON CON/DUB CON warning is red-flag-level. Author Description: Sam loses his mind. It's that simple. Dean doesn't know what to do, but he's not going to walk away from this, he's never backed down in all his life. If you're looking for happy endings, don't come here. This shit is dark.

THE SILENCE OF A SUMMER DAY by wanttobeatree

***Everyone who loves the Winchesters should read this amazing future fic***

Rated PG. The world has moved on. This is their legacy. Haha, yes, of course I’m recommending this one again. No sex whatsoever! Weird, right?!?!

@spnficrecfest

RESTRAINT by DarkEmeralds

Free rec. Rated M. 200k+ words. It's not Spn or Wincest or even J2, not really. I guess it’s technically a J2 AU. I’m sneaking it in here because it’s an all-time favorite of mine. This might not be your cup of tea, fanfic wise. I certainly didn’t think it was mine. But but but…it’s absolutely lovely, it’s extremely well-written, the tone/voice/verbiage is accurate for its time, and it has a happy ending that made me cry HAPPY tears when I was finished. If you like historical romance, you’ll like this. It’s set in Regency England! Author Description: The calling card said Tristan Jarrett, Viscount Penrith. Beneath that, in a lazy scrawl, was the addendum Mr Acklebury, be so good as to wait on me tomorrow, number 10, Half Moon Street. Yours, &c., Penrith. Mr Acklebury was not sure how he felt about being thus summarily commanded to paint his lordship's portrait.

[imthedr3amer]

📖 Fic rec: SPN/RPF, J2/Wincest, Explicit 🍆🍑🍆🍆*

Double Your Trouble by rivers_bend on AO3 ↗️

Rating: Explicit

Archive Warning: No Archive Warnings Apply

Category: M/M

Fandoms: Supernatural, Supernatural RPF

Relationships: Sam/Dean, Sam/Jared/Jensen voyeur!Dean

Characters: Sam Winchester, Dean Winchester, Jared Padalecki, Jensen Ackles

Additional Tags: Crossover, Wincest - Freeform, Double Penetration, Voyeurism, Exhibitionism, Dirty Talk, Barebacking, Threesome [Extra tags by me: Top Dean Winchester/Bottom Sam Winchester, Top Jensen Ackles/Top Jared Padalecki/Bottom Sam Winchester, Anal Sex]

Language: English

Stats: Published: 2010-03-20 Words: 2,203

Double Your Trouble

by rivers_bend

Summary: for the prompt Sam/Jared/Jensen, double penetration, Dean watching. at blindfold_spn

[Don't forget to thank your authors. Kudos and a comment go a long way. 🫶]

[My thoughts: An SPN/RPF crossover that was new to me! I thought I'd read all the offerings available on AO3, but since this one wasn't tagged in the conventional way, it got past me. Remember to think outside the box when searching for those hidden gems. 🧐

* What, the title emojis too on the nose? Cut me some slack, I'm trying to keep them unique for each rec, it ain't easy. 😂]

[castielstwigandberries]

if the supernatural movie doesnt include a reference to

nevada and georgia turning blue, stop the count, destiel making putin resign, sherlock season 5 rumors, destiel news meme, which political person had to be briefed on what destiel is now?, jensen looks like he was holding back homophobic slurs, weird cuts in the confession scene, which way was dean thrown now?, bury your gays speedrun, gay angels get send to superhell/eeby-deeby/cas plinko, recognizing the confession scene only by the first letters of each word, 'homosexual declaration of love', The Tapes™ (Release them now jensen!!!), meta analysis after 15x18, 'i gripped you tight and raised you from perdition' callback as dean saves cas from the empty, why lamp?, onion field, pizza man montage, parallels be paralleling, dean screaming cas name so loud in one take that people heard it blocks away, dean offering to kill sam if it means chuck brings cas back, the 4 year old son of lucifer becoming god, chuck won theory, 'we explore the nature of destiel in act two', excitement for a long finale which could only be about dean saving cas, right?, the insanity inducing quotes of the day for episodes, 'the night we met' and 'angel with a shotgun' songs of the day on set, filming in a barn, worst finale ever (even worse than game of thrones), weirly short with 11 scenes cut, two thirds montages, carry on wayward son playinf twice, back to back, one a weird cover version, vampmimes, no cas in the finale but instead some random vampire from season one no one remembers, dean finally gets nailed from behind, dean dies from tetanus, party city wig, good cars go to heaven, Car/Cas and Biden/Bi!Dean/Bye!Dean, 'cas helped', blurry wife, misha and jensen are not in the thank you video, everyone was supposed to be at the roadhouse originally but no one was informed of those plans, walker backdoor pilot, covid/capitalism destroyed everything, misha was in vancouver for filming the last episodes and was in less episodes than he was contracted for, misha denies ever having been in vancouver, misha says originally he was supposed to be in the finale as jimmy, misha says cas was supposed to be in the finale and 'sidle up to dean in the roadhouse', heterosexual destiel whose kisses would have created entire universes, destiel reciprocated in spanish, rogue translator, #TheySilencedYou, Jensen Ackles sexy silence, jensen ackles longcon, deanbenny breakup in season 8 script leak, Heller Obama, fake italian dub, misha collins x bill clinton sex scandal, misha addressing the "scandal" and tagging bill clinton and monica lewinski, 'still beautiful, still dean winchester', mishapocalypse 2.0 and 3.0, 'eyes like the sky' beer from jensens brewery rumored to be misha description, cockles anniversay photo, chaos machine jensen ackles' production company, 'rainbow road' beer close to deans birthday, blue green ('destiel') shotglasses from jensen brewery, ash and ellen's actors roleplaying roadhouse reopening in twitter, people think they are planning destiel wedding, disappointment when thats not the case, fans celebrate Destiel Wedding anyway on Valentine's Day 2021, fallout with both actors after one said a 'queer interpretation would damage the integrity of the show',

*takes a deep breath*

jared calling cas junkless and comparing his love for dean to the love he has for his children, misha collins cameo including 'still beautiful, still dean winchester', saileen and midam wedding, spn prequel announcement and subsequent j2 fallout, '@/robbiethompson et tu brute wow. what a trully awful thing you've done #bravo you coward', the prequel being about the least favourite characters of supernatural and a love story disproved by canon, 100000 destiel fics on ao3, misha tweets about that, rumors if mishas secret ao3 account, real italian dub going 'you're kinda okay' instead of i love you, misha tweeting a video of him saying 'te amo' in response to that', jensen saying if there'd been more time he (he meant dean but he used first person pronouns) would have hugged cas and said 'i love you too', first anniversary, misha collins coming out as bisexual on accident and then saying he 'happens to be straight' three days later in a five post apology thread, hot sauce from adam/micheal actor advertised by him playing midam, casbaiting in the winchesters trailer, jarlos shipping by winchester main actors, dean with beard and turtleneck, jensen saying he wanted misha in the winchesters but it didnt work out because of scheduling conflicts but hed be there in a season two shortly before the show was cancelled, death of the rogue translator and destiel getting dragged to the trending page every time there is news

*panting* then i dont want it.

yes this is all i could remember without looking it up

[sweetonsugden]

Just seen your anon from yesterday due to the last one you posted. I've seen a lot of reports from M&G's over the years but not once I've seen a description that even mentioned Jensen's "smile and excitement" 🥴 while telling things, so I'm afraid I must call bullshit. Also that would be something newsworthy especially for jobless JP and since no names (allegedly) were mentioned I don't see why they wouldn't speak about it in the panels. Personally I think, Jensen doesn't want to work all the time in projects with his ex-costars, not even with Misha and I doubt it's different for Misha. The Boys is an exception in my eyes because of Kripke's involvement. Another thing that makes me doubt the whole thing is Jensen claiming he said their chemistry is well know in the industry, hahaha. Fantasyland. He never once said this shit in public, not even to feed the J2 crowd, he sure as hell wouldn't say this in private. On top of that it's also not true. 😇

Well, I have to disagree with your assessment about not wanting to work with ex-costars because he tried to get Misha to reprise his role as Castiel for The Winchesters, but Misha’s schedule wouldn’t jive because of Gotham Knights. This past weekend Misha mentioned, publicly (not hidden in m&g) , that he was in the very early stages with Jensen and Danneel of bringing Bridgewater podcast to the screen. Misha would not have said that publicly if it weren’t true when Jensen was as the same con.

We have heard that Jensen has smiled and perked up at autos when asked about Countdown, so he does show excitement when talking about a project.

Here’s my thing….

Jared was extremely vocal when just the whiff of appearing on The Boys came about. He couldn’t keep quiet. He kept bringing it up. Jared is not known for keeping his mouth shut and not blurting things out. So for them to be at panels all weekend and not bring it up at all, not even at the gold panel to say “we’re in the early talks of possibly working together on screen again”, seems really odd. Especially with how much they work at selling the “bros for life, friends ‘til the end” brand.

I’m not going to outright call bullshit, but I’m going to side eye the probability until one of them says something publicly.

Oh, and last thing regarding chemistry…. let’s not forget which duo actually won for Best Chemistry.

[arwenadreamer]

Hi! If I understand correctly you were at JIB15, any chance you were at the meet & greets (or know someone who was) and can tell us something about J2? Obviously only if you want to.😊 I know there is no NDA at JIB, so it shouldn't be against the rules to share. I know they can't say anything about The Boys at all, but I hope they at least talked about what it was like to be back on set together in the m&g. Thank you! ❤️

Hi nonie,

Unfortunately I wasn't attending a meet and greet. But yes, I met people who were and they were kind enough to tell me about it. I just don't feel like it's my place to share their stories.

One of them is probably reading this post and can decide for herself if she wants to share something about her experience. 😉

And from another fan I heard something that I can't share even without an NDA. All I can say is this: I heard something about The Boys that has me all excited about it. I mean, even more excited than I was anyway.

Sorry that I can't say more.

xo