#Oengus

[royal-wren]

A quick joke a small few will understand but personally, has me howling with laughter

[dr-spooky06]

Some silly doodles of my underrated scrimblo, oengus. Love this guy with every fiber of my soul

[reejindeed]

Some Oengus Ógses

[a-studious-reej]

Must be rough out here for any male gods associated with love

[fireinthesea-blog]

prefacing this by saying that i've been hardcore ruminating and having intrusive thoughts about this for the past day, so i'm just writing this down to hopefully get it out of my head and i can't promise how coherent it'll be

i've been listening to quite a bit of podcasts since my surgery last week (yeahhh yeeterus at last!). and honestly i've just kinda been blown away by the amount of celtic myth/folklore and scottish/irish history podcasts have popped up since i've been gone, and it's really getting me feeling comfortable with the mythology and the language in a way i never have before. it's a piece that was missing for years for me. which is why it's really driving me nuts that like...

i'm not expecting to agree with everything these people are saying. especially going into the myth podcasts, i very much do not, and with the couple i've listened to most at this point, i'm interested in what these people have to say and have a lot of respect for them as storytellers and for people who surrounding immersing themselves so much in these stories, even when i disagree with what they're saying. for the most part.

but fucking what's with this 'the tuatha dé weren't actually gods' thing? especially coming an episode or two after they went on a whole big thing about how the glorious goddess danu was erased by that nasty christian patriarchy. how can you hold those two views at the same time? the latter seems to imply some damn heavy things about the former to me?

their points were that they weren't all powerful/all knowing/omnipresent/etc/that they die (which i'd recently seen other professionals say and been annoyed by), which is bullshit because there are other gods like that who don't get called into question. they literally said that the irish gods weren't gods like the norse gods, and i'm pretty sure they also fall into a lot of those 'failings'?

their other was that the ancient irish didn't worship their gods??? have i..... missed some things? my brain has stopped working

[not-poignant]

i was rereading TIP1 and wow, i’m in awe of how you make your side characters (oengus and the gancanagh) so memorable and iconic. i’m curious, what was oengus and gwyn’s relationship like back when gwyn was seelie?

This is actually talked about a little bit in book one! It's talked about in chapter 17, and you might not be up to that yet in your reread. But Oengus and Gwyn were comrades in the Seelie military and were both considered great warriors.

Beyond that, they weren't especially close. They had the closeness that comes from protecting each other's lives and therefore trusting each other with their lives as warriors. But they weren't like...seeing each other as friends outside of battle or military tours.

[tuatha-de-danann-blog]

The Dagda and Oengus

So, like, the version I read opens telling us the Dagda is king of the Tuatha de Danann and controls crops and weather. The Dagda and this (river goddess???) woman, Boann wanted to link, but she had a husband, so the Dagda sent him on an errand and made the sun stop. The journey for him felt like one day while the Dagda and Boann bang, conceive, and birth Oengus. All in like a day.

Oengus is fostered, and his foster dad reveals Oengus' parentage and takes him to the Dagda. The Dagda had already divided land among his kids so Oengus was left out.

One version, Oengus tricks the Dagda into giving him his own house.

Another version has the Dagda telling Oengus how to trick his mom's husband out of his house.

Either way, through wordplay, Oengus swindles a dude and takes his house.

[puyopopfeverp]

gampa sippy soup /ref

[themodernwitchsguide]

the celtic gods

please note that sometimes history gets blended with stories created by neopagan groups, and it's above my pay grade to know what is what

the creation myth of the irish is pretty much lost to time, but as far as I can piece together where the land and the sea met, a horse named Eioch emerged from sea foam. nearby a hearty tree grew which Eioch fed upon, and this tree may have been Cerunnos (not many sources exist to corroborate this). jealous of the giants (who created the earth) that were many in number, Cerunnos and Eioch procreated to create the gods

CERUNNOS: irish god of nature, life, and fertility. associated with horned animals

the clan of Tuatha De Danann

DANU/ANU/ANANN: the matriarch of Tuatha de Danann (literally meaning "the people of the goddess Danu"), she is the irish goddess of regeneration, wisdom (since the Tuatha de Danann themselves were crafty), and sovereignty

THE DAGDA: son of Elatha (a Fomorian king) and possibly Ethniu, a triple god and one chief of Tuatha de Danann, god of life and death, the seasons, magic, and agriculture

BRIGID: daughter of Dagd, irish goddess of healing, fire/metalworking, and poetry

AENGUS/OENGUS: son of Dagd, irish god of love, beauty, summer, youth, and inspiration

MIDIR: son of the Dagd, although his name may mean "judge," some stories say he crafted the rivers and lakes

ERNMAS: her name refers to death by weapons

THE MORRIGAN: daughter of Ernmas, a triple goddess and the other chief of Tuatha de Danann, irish goddess of war, death, prophecy and ravens. her aspects are often considered Badb, Macha, and Nemain/Anand/Eea

ERIU: sometimes considered a daughter of Ernmas, goddess of Ireland (Ireland is derived from her name) and sovereignty

BRES: son of Eriu and Elatha (of the Fomorians), he was an unpopular king of Tuatha de Danann since he often gave preferential treatment to the Fomorians

BANBA: sometimes considered a daughter of Ernmas, goddess of Ireland

FODLA: sometimes considered a daughter of Ernmas, goddess of Ireland

LUGH/LUGUS: son of Ethniu (of the Fomorians) and Cian (of Tuatha de Danann), irish god of nobility, warriors, crafts, oaths, justice and sometimes light or the sun. he kills Balor at the battle of Mag Tuired

NUADA: the first king of Tuatha de Danann, irish god of fairness, justice, and honesty

OGMA: son of Elatha (of the Fomorians), irish god of language, eloquence, and learning

DIAN CECHT: irish god of healing and medicine, Tuatha de Danann's healer. father of Cian and grandfather of Lugh

GOIBNIU: irish god of craft, metalsmith for the Tuatha de Danann

the clan of the Fomorians, who fought to take over Ireland,

DOMNU: irish goddess of the abyss, or deep sea. patron goddess of the Fomorians

INDECH: irish son of Domnu, sometimes king of the Fomorians, other times just a warrior

BALOR: a giant cyclops that is usually considered the chief of the Fomorians. it is his death, at the hands of his grandson Lugh, that creates a time of peace and prosperity in Ireland

CAITLIN/CETHLENN: wife of Balor, a prophet

ELATHA/EALADHA: a king of the Fomorians, son of Balor and Caitlin, perhaps a god of the sun

ETHNIU: daughter of Balor and by some sources, irish goddess of the North Star

gods associated with the underworld,

ARAWN: welsh god of hunting, magic, and lord of the Annwn (afterlife). represents honor and fairness

CERRIDWEN: welsh goddess of the underworld, a shapeshifting witch and prophet

MANANNAN/MANAWYDAN: welsh god of the sea and guardian of the underworld

and the rest,

MATH AP MATHONWY: brother of Don, god of magic, sorcery and enchantment. created Blodeuwedd for a man, and turned her into an owl when she became unfaithful

BELI: welsh god of fire, death, and darkness

DON: welsh equivalent of Danu, the mother goddess. there is another welsh god by this name who is considered the god of the dead

GOVANNON: son of Beli and Don, welsh god of blacksmithing and crafts

GILVAETHWY: son of Beli and Don, god of agriculture and ploughing

GWYDYON: son of Beli and Don, welsh god of war, magic, illusion, poetry, and music

AMATHON: son of Beli and Don, welsh god of agriculture

NUDD/LLUDD: son of Beli and Don, welsh god of healing

GWYNN AP NUDD: son of Nudd, king of the fair folk, associated with the Annwn

CREIDDYLAD/CORDELIA: daughter of Lludd, welsh goddess of flowers and desire

ARIANRHOD: virgin goddess of the moon, reincarnation, the sky, and fertility. tricked into jumping over the magic wand of Math, which made her give birth to Dylan and Lleu. she refused to claim Lleu as her son and laid three curses upon him

DYLAN: welsh god of the sea and waves

LLEU: welsh hero, often attributed the same powers as Gwydion

AERON: welsh god of battle, slaughter, and fate

LLYR: welsh equivalent of Lir, god of the sea

MANAWYDDAN: son of Llyr, welsh god of the sea

BRAN: son of Llyr, welsh god of prophecy, war, and kingship

BRANWEN: daughter of Llyr, welsh goddess of love, beauty, and marriage

MODRON/MATRONA: mother of Mabon, welsh goddess of motherhood

MABON: welsh god of eternal youth, hunting, love, and the autumnal equinox

TALIESIN: welsh god of bards and poetry/music

MERLIN/MYRRDIN: welsh god of magic, gifted with prophecy and wisdom

RHIANNON: welsh equivalent of Epona, goddess of horses, motherhood, and strength

PRYDERI: son of Pwyll and Rhiannon, hero who's story is told in the Mabinogi

BLODEUWEDD: welsh goddess of flowers and emotions, protector of women

AINS/AINE: irish goddess of summer, fertility, and crops, Queen of the Faeries

EPONA: gaelic goddess of horses and fertility

BORVO/BORMO: gaelic god of hot springs

BELENUS: irish god of the sun, fire, healing, and fertility. celebrated during Beltainne

CAILLEACH/SCOTIA: irish goddess of the winds and winter, patron of animals

DRUANTIA: gaelic goddess of trees, fertility and passion, seen as Queen of the Druids

ESUS/AISUS: gaelic god of vegetation

FAND: irish goddess of the sea

FIONN MAC CUMHAILL: irish god of the woodlands, leader of the Fianna hunters

MAEVE/MEDB: irish goddess of sovereignty, intoxication, seduction

SCATHACH SCATA: irish warrior goddess, teacher, prophet, and sorceress

SUCELLOS: gaelic god of good fortune, wine, an agriculture, equivalent to the Dagd

TAILTIU: irish goddess of the earth, vigor, strength, and endurance. foster mother of Lugh

TARANIS: gaelic god of thunder and storms, associated with wheels

TEUTATES/ALBORIX/CATURIX: gaelic god of the tribe, protector of the people

[royal-wren]

Giving Aengus the epithet "of many kisses" has got to be one of the best moves I have ever made. It just really fits him especially since I do see him as being somewhere between Aphrodite and Inanna (but closer to Aphrodite). It just shows his softer side in my opinion, one that I love as much as any other side to him.

[litcest]

Tochmarc Étaíne

Tochmarc Étaíne ('The Wooing of Étaín')is a story from the Irish Mythological Cycle. The two main sources for the text is the Lebor na hUidre ('Book of the Dun Cow'), which dates as far back as 1106 and the Yellow Book of Lecan, from circa 1401. The full text can be split into 3 sections which tell the story of Étaín. It's very confusing for me, who knows little of Celtic or Irish mythology, because it features characters who are famous from other myths, but I'll do my best to summarize it.

It's a tale of accidental incest between a father and his daughter, in which they are tricked into sleeping together by the magical race of the Tuatha Dé Danann.

I'll be using the translation by Jeffrey Gantz in the book Early Irish Myths and Sagas from 1981.

The story starts with the birth of Oengus (also known as Aengus) who honestly doesn't concerns us very much. The only important thing about him is that he has to win Étaín's hand from her father Ailill. Not for himself, mind you, but for his foster-father Mider. For a year Étaín and Mider live together in Oengus's lands, but eventually comes the time for them to return to Mider's own lands. Once they arrive, Mider's first wife, Fúamnach, becomes enraged that has husband has remarried and lived away from her for a full year and transforms Étaín in a pool of water. After the water evaporates, a giant scarlet fly appears in it's place. All this people are Tuatha Dé Danann, which are kinda of gods or maybe sidhe (fairies), I'm not really sure.

Mider recognizes the fly as being Étaín and travels with it, never taking another wife. Fúamnach is not yet pleased with this and conjures a storm to blow Étaín away. For seven years she drifts in the wind, before finally landing at Oengus' castle, where he takes care of her. Fúamnach is still having none of it and once again conjures a storm to carry Étaín away. For another seven years she is dragged by the wind, until she lands in the of Étar's wife. The woman swallows the fly and becomes pregnant with Étaín. Born again, Étaín is re-raised by Étar.

Echu (or Eochu) Airem is the High King of Ireland and he seeks a wife. He chooses Étaín, for she's the most beautiful woman of all. However, Echo Airem has a brother, Ailill Angubae (no relation to Étaín's father Ailill), who also falls in love with Étaín. His love for Étaín is so great that he falls ill for not being able to consummate it. While Angubae is in his deathbed, Airem goes on trip, leaving Étaín alone with his brother. Angubae confesses his feelings, which Étaín reciprocates, and they agree to meet in the middle of the night in a hill. Three times she goes there, but instead of Angubae, she finds Mider. After the third time, Mider explains to her that he is her husband and that they had been kept apart by Fúamnach sorcery. She agrees to go with him, but only if Airem allows it.

Airem returns from his trip and is visited my Mider, who challenges him a game of fidchell, which seems to a board game. Day after day, the two play the game and the stakes keep rising, until Mider says that, if he wins, he wants a kiss and a embrace from Étaín. Mider wins and takes his prize, hugging Étaín and causing the two transform into swans, now able fly away from Airem.

Airem isn't happy with this and has this servants search for Étaín in every síd (a fairy-mound, where the Tuatha Dé Danann live) in Ireland. They find Mider, who agrees to let Airem take back Étaín if he can identify her among fifty woman. Airem picks the woman he believes to be Étaín.

Time passes and Mider comes to visit once again and reveals the truth: the real Étaín is with him and Airem has his own daughter.

"Your wife was pregnant when I took her from you, and she bore a daughter, and it is that daughter who is with you now. Your wife is with me, and you have let her go a second time."

The 1147 book called An Banshenchas, which is basically a list of important woman in folklore, named this daughter as Esa.

"Etain was wife of Eochu Aireman. Esa was her daughter, evil were her rites. Her name is given to a lofty spot, allied by her crimes to pollution. Mes Buachalla was Esa's daughter."

The phase "evil were her rites", which accompanies Esa, is a reference to the incestuous union with her father. Although I would hardly call it "evil" especially because we have no idea if Esa even knew who Airem was. Maybe she was raised believing herself to be Mider''s daughter.

Airem becomes disgusted that he slept with his own daughter and, more over, has gotten Esa pregnant.

"He was distressed that his wife had escaped and that he had slept with his own daughter: his daughter, moreover, became pregnant and bore a daughter."

Trying to hide this, Airem has the child of the incestuous union taken away to be eaten by wolves, but she is found and raised by Findlám, a herdsman. This child grows up and is eventually married to the new High King, Eterscélae (he replaced Airem on the throne, but it's not a dynasty thing, he's not related to Airem at all). This marriage results in the birth of Conare (or Conaire), about whom many other legends were written.

The Conare legends, the Togail Bruidne Dá Derga, name his mom Mess Búachalla, daughter of Étaín and Echu Feidlech, Airem's other brother. Like most ancient stories, there are simple too many inconsistentes because they were told and retold many times. However, I'll summarize as: Étaín and Airem birth Esa. Esa and Airem incestuous union result in the birth Mess Búachalla. Mess Búachalla and Eterscélae birth Conare.

I wish we knew what happened with Airem and Esa. The story doesn't mentions their fates, or Étaín's and Midir. Maybe other texts does. Either way, this story can let us glimpse at what the ancient Irish thought of incest, since Airem is so ashamed of what he did that he leaves the proof of the union to die. Not only that, but the incest is framed as a punishment by Mider for Airem's destruction of the síds.

It kinda has Oedipus Rex vibes to it, the acidental incest resulting in tragedy and all that. Which reminds me I've never covered Oedipus... maybe I should

[paganimagevault]

Tailteann Games medal 1928

"Tailltiu daughter of Mag Mor king of Spain, queen of the Fir Bolg, came after the slaughter was inflicted upon the Fir Bolg in that first battle of Mag Tuired to Coill Cuan: and the wood was cut down by her, so it was a plain under clover-flower before the end of a year. This is that Tailtiu who was wife of Eochu son of Erc king of Ireland till the Tuatha De Danann slew him, ut praediximus: it is he who took her from her father, from Spain; and it is she who slept with Eochu Garb son of Dui Dall of the Tuatha De Danann; and Cian son of Dian Cecht, whose other name was Scal Balb, gave her his son in fosterage, namely Lugh, whose mother was Eithne daughter of Balar. So Tailltiu died in Tailltiu, and her name clave thereto and her grave is from the Seat of Tailltiu north-eastward. Her games were performed every year and her song of lamentation, by Lugh. With gessa and feats of arms were they performed, a fortnight before Lugnasad and a fortnight after: under dicitur Lughnasadh, that is, the celebration (?) or the festival of Lugh. Under Oengus post multum tempus it is said, "the nasad of Lug, or the nasad of Beoan [son] of Mellan."

-Lebor Gabála Érenn: The Book of Invasions, Volume 4:59

[a-studious-reej]

This is how I like to imagine this conversation going

(From: Fate of the Children of Lir)

[dogboyklug]

GUY MOMENT !!!!!! featuring owen oengus htp!ayashii :]

@crimsonshoutss you wanted to put this guy ina box yes?

[not-poignant]

Hi Pia! Just wanted to say that I love all of Efs, I love of all Garys, I love all of Temsens, I love all of Nates, I love all of Januszs, I love all of Augussssss, I love all of Gwyns, I love all of Mosks, I love all of Aloisssss, I love all of Antons, I love all of the Raven Princes, I love all of Ashs, I love Arden, I love Kadek, I love Mika, I love Gancanagh, I love Biani, I love Faber, I love Kimerrin, I love Nain Rogue, I love Gulvi, I love Fenwrel, I love Ondine, I love Julvia, I love Oengus, I love Kabiri, I love Caleb (after eyes opening), I love Kenneth, I love Udir, I love Eran, I love Matan, I love Red, I love Kaulo, I love Damilola, I love Vicki, I love James, I love Frank, I love Sasha, I love Mikkel, I love Isabelle, I love Polly, I love Iris, I love Leo, I love UtB Gary's mother, I love all of Enrissssss and I am sure I am forgetting many of them, but you got me :D

(cont.) Hi! I am anon with all the love for a lot of your characters and I just realised that I didn't say full Efnisien's name, and now I'm angry at myself. So! I love all the Efnisiens!

(No but seriously this made me smile so much)

[tuatha-de-danann-blog]

Master List of Stories of the Tuatha dé Danann Pt. Three

How the Dagda Got His Magic Staff

Bergin, Osborn. Medieval Studies in Memory of Gertrude Schoepperle Loomis. NY: Columbia University Press, 1927.

The Taking of the Sid

De Gabáil in t-Sída; Book of Leinster ; Translated by John Carey

The Wooing of Etain

Yellow Book of Lecan; Heroic Romances of Ireland, Volume II ed. and trans. A.H. Leahy. London: David Nutt, 1906.

The Dream of Oengus

Aislinge Oengusso; Translated by Ed. Müller

The Cattle-Raid of Regamna

The Yellow Book of Lecan; Heroic Romances of Ireland, Volume II ed. and trans. A.H. Leahy. London: David Nutt, 1906.