#SA@g

[sysmedsaresexist]

The Big "Is RAMCOA Antisemitic?" Debunk Post

Because I have to stay relevant, here we go

Let's start with a little speech. A bit of positivity.

You know, there is something good to said about this RAMCOA antisemitism discourse. The majority don't seem to be falling for it at all, and many are becoming more educated about the panic, RAMCOA/OEA and its history (the good and the bad) than ever before

RAMCOA/OEA a very real issue that deserves awareness and advocacy, and so far, I've noticed a massive surge in members of the community researching the ISSTD and the OEA sig's work.

It has brought antisemitism into light in a way that hasn't really been talked about on a large scale in system communities, and most don't know ever existed. Many, genuinely, had no idea that the satanic panic was antisemitic in these ways, and it's putting a lot of pieces together and adding a lot of context that'll help us grow and be better people going forward.

It's been really nice seeing such a positive shift to open, educational conversations, with people genuinely wanting to know the truth and unlearn harmful associations.

SAS stands with RAMCOA and OEA survivors.

So let's get into it.

SRA and The Memory Wars, lasting results

SRA started with Michelle Remembers, a book, in 1980. It resulted in thousands of unsubstantiated claims of abuse, daycare hysteria, set CDD research and OEA abuse back decades, affected millions, and to this day conjures images of cloaked figures sacrificing children.

The ISSTD was formed in 1984, amid the panic, with the goal of quickly developing an effective treatment and documenting the disorder as thoroughly as possible. Many mistakes were made. Clinicians aren't immune to societal panics, and lessons were learned the hard way.

I think an important distinction that many have forgotten is that the ISSTD's principal controversy isn't SRA. SRA didn't start or end with the ISSTD.

While the “Satanic Panic” played out in courts and in mass media, the ISSTD entered “The Memory Wars”, and it's this that they're most controversial for. False, implanted, and fostered memories weren't solely related to SRA. It was used to discredit all types of abuse and violence and is still used to this day to silence victims.

By the 1990s, therapists were being sued, licenses were being revoked, and members were fleeing the ISSTD. The False Memory Syndrome Foundation wouldn't be created for another couple of years, but that doesn't mean its founding members weren't already wreaking havoc.

The FMSF would be created in 1992, and their bigger and better attacks on therapists were brutal and persistent. The legal battles would be especially effective at causing therapists to refuse to work with victims of abuse.

Research on ritual abuse, CDDs, and repressed memories came to a grinding halt.

The Satanic Panic eventually fell into relative silence by 1995, but false memories lived on, loud and cruel.

The FMSF would eventually begin to write college textbooks for the next generation of clinicians. It would survive until 2019.

The ISSTD is still trying to regain its membership. It's only recently that they reached 1500, the highest since 1993.

Antisemitism, blood libel, and the satanic panic

If you're confused about how everything is related, I'm going to make it very simple so you grasp the basic idea.

This is not a history lesson.

Blood Libel, or ritual murder, is the idea that Jewish people sacrificed Christian children in religious rituals. Cloaked figures performing rituals and killing children and animals. The same thing you picture when you think of Satanists and rituals.

For those who recognize the connection (racists), this fuels their sentiments and creates a language for them to speak to each other.

It is true, a basic fact, that for many people, Satanists are anyone who doesn't worship the Christian god. Including and especially Jewish people.

SRA and RAMCOA

Depending on who you ask, the connection is either that:

MYTH: the ISSTD originally called their RAMCOA sig (Special Interest Group) the SRA sig. FACT: The RAMCOA sig, one of twelve ISSTD sigs, was created in 2008. There was never any kind of satanic ritual abuse group or association within the ISSTD.

FACT: Ritual abuse, the RA in RAMCOA, still has ties to SRA and brings to mind everything from the panic. ALSO FACT: That's why the ISSTD has renamed it to the OEA sig.

Hopefully we're all on the same page now.

Who's Grey Faction?

Grey Faction is a group of the TST (The Satanic Temple) and is closely related to the FMSF. While the FMSF generally attacked all types of abuse, GF, being related to Satanism, is focused on recovered memories and the (still alive) satanic panic. They believe that all reports of false memories supports satanic panic conspiracy theories. They continue the FMSF's work.

How did we get here?

Well, TST and GF are on reddit. Syscringe is on reddit. And now syscringe is here.

This is what syscringe bot says every time RAMCOA is brought up.

That link goes to Grey Faction.

So is RAMCOA Antisemitic?

Kind of yeah. It was a really good move of the ISSTD to change the name to OEA sig. They talk about the association on their website and stated they wanted to get away from that. No one won the satanic panic. Ritual abuse is real, but its history is tainted.

The discourse around RAMCOA isn't about helping Jewish people. At least, not for the people pushing the false connection that the ISSTD started and continues to maintain the panic to this day.

It's about discrediting the ISSTD and the trauma theory. It's about silencing victims, even Jewish survivors.

It's about ignoring that the ISSTD is making moves in the right direction.

It's about continuing the idea that false memories exist and that trauma memories can't be trusted or taken at face value. It's about downplaying the depravity of abusers and the lengths they'll go to.

I want to finish this post with a letter from a very dear friend. It's not a mod on this blog, simply someone wishing to stay anonymous.

Uplift Jewish Voices

Hello, I’m Noam, an ethnic and religious Jew. I face antisemitism on the daily and deal with having DID. I am not a RAMCOA survivor, but I have a number of friends who are. Today I’m here to talk about the recent discourse going around regarding whether claiming to have RAMCOA experiences is inherently antisemitic. TLDR: no.

Let’s start with understanding why people think this. The term ritual abuse originated from the term satanic ritual abuse and is often associated with the satanic panic. The satanic panic in the 80s and 90s was extreme and yes, did involve a lot of antisemitic conspiracy theories. People would suggest certain symbols or music or groups of people (often vague, or calling it a nationwide conspiracy) were “brainwashing” these “good Christian children” into satanic practices or straying from rigid Christianity. Jews are often stereotyped as Satanic, controlling things, and murdering and cannibalizing children/babies.

Ritual abuse nowadays is often still associated with Satanic cults, but it has a much broader and less accusatory definition in medical/therapeutic spaces. Per Schröder et al. (2018), “ritual abuse occurs when a religious, political, or spiritual authority uses its position of power and the sovereignty to interpret the respective belief system to manipulate and dominate its followers.” Some examples include repeated forced creation of CSEM, religious and other types of cults (yes, including satanic, but also Christian and other religions), and being forced to abuse others (Schröder et al., 2018). Trafficking is also a type of organized abuse. We know these types of abuses happen. But given the history of RA as a term and the harm claims of SRA caused, how does one determine whether something is a conspiracy theory or actual trauma someone experienced?

This page by the European Commission does a good job of talking about identifying conspiracy theories and the harm they do. I won’t recount the whole thing, but here are some basic things they state conspiracy theories have in common: a secret plot, a group of conspirators, unfounded/unreliable evidence, suggesting everything is connected, dividing the world into good people and bad people, and scapegoating certain groups (“Identifying Conspiracy Theories,” 2020).

What makes (many) stories of RAMCOA different from antisemitic conspiracy theories? I’m glad you asked!

• The secret plot in conspiracy theories often involves a large group of people in on some secret changing something about the world or identifying a secret thing that must have happened to lead to unfortunate current events. RAMCOA tends to stem from people or organizations working on a much smaller scale, and the things they are doing mostly affect the person/people experiencing this abuse. Abusers may try to instill in victims a sense that they control a lot about the world and the events that happen within it, but they don’t.

• A big question I like to ask people who spout conspiracy theories is ��who is they (the group of conspirators)?” If they is some generic big bad, the government, “elites” (see the AJC’s Translate Hate Glossary section titled “cosmopolitan elite”), or vague and unknown, it’s usually a dogwhistle for Jews. The person themselves may not realize this, but perhaps they never looked further into the evidence behind these accusations and who those being accused are. RAMCOA perpetrators are not vague to their victims. They often have familial ties or other close relationships with them that allow the abusers to gain their victims’ trust (Schröder et al. 2018). The things they do to abuse people and the methods they use are not vague or mysterious actions to achieve an end. There are specific actions and tactics that cults and authority figures use for RAMCOA.

• Whether evidence is unfounded is a harder thing to distinguish, since many survivors of RAMCOA cope using dissociation or have an amount of dissociative amnesia around traumatic events (Shröder 2018). The Europe Commission suggests three main things to check for in regards to evidence about a claim. Who is the author and why are they writing this? Is the source reliable/reputable? Is the tone and style “balanced and fair or sensationalist and one-dimensional?” (“Identifying Conspiracy Theories,” 2020). I also like to think about, especially with regards to abuse survivors, if this is a conspiracy theory, why are they telling me the things they’re telling me? Most RAMCOA survivors I’ve met avoid talking about their trauma and are more focused on figuring out if what they experienced is real and how to heal from it. They are not trying to convince me of something; they are just sharing their story and looking for support.

• RAMCOA victims I’ve talked to, particularly those with DID, also have a more complex view of their abusers or are trying to come to terms with all the bad things someone they admired, trusted, and/or loved did. Conspiracy theorists tend to separate people into conspirators or innocents. There is no middle ground. Healing for a lot of abuse victims involves realizing that good people can do bad things and bad people can do good things; the world is not black and white.

• Scapegoating often involves generalizing and demonizing certain people or groups of people. I find a lack of seeing these “others” as human or wanting anything other than a single, unified goal. It also tends to involve assumptions much more than any personal experience. Anyone with even the slightest connection to a certain ideology is evil. RAMCOA often involves many victims, many of whom understand that other people involved with the organization that hurt them are also victims or have been scared or brainwashed into further perpetuating abuse.

• Also, while satanic panic was largely about going against Christianity, many religious cults are associated with particular sects or communities within Christianity, and they use certain ideologies within the group to deter people from leaving or reporting abuse. Perpetrators claim some sort of punishment or betrayal will be involved in these actions.

Anyways, I want to put emphasis on healing in RAMCOA survivors, where many of the points and purposes of conspiracy theories are antithetical to such a process. People should be allowed to find support, community, and reliable resources about what they have gone through (if it is physically/mentally safe for them to do so). Please do not insist that these traumas aren’t real on the basis of antisemitism from the satanic panic. The survivors I’ve met who talk about parts of their trauma are working hard to come to terms with it themselves and how to cope, and while they may be angry and upset towards their abusers, they do not try to insist to me how evil a group is and that there is a need to take direct action against them. They are just trying to survive.

Now, ritual abuse as a term and the history of its use is something I think needs more discussion. I would love to see more research about how the term evolved within medical/therapeutic spaces and how much of a connection the current definition and use has to antisemitism. But regardless of what we end up calling these types of abuses, there are real examples of them and people who have empirical evidence that they have been through such experiences.

Furthermore, I have a problem with a lot of the claims of antisemitism in relation to RAMCOA coming from goyim (AKA non-Jews). You are not the authority on antisemitism. You do not get to claim to defend us while not speaking to us about the topic. There is so much antisemitism going around, but I find so few people willing to listen to Jews when we talk about the struggles we face. (The SAS mods are an example of exceptions to this. I appreciate the amount I’ve been able to talk to them and how open and supportive they are. I love y’all.) Encouraging hate and disbelief is not helpful to us. What’s helpful is doing your research and learning about how to recognize and combat antisemitism. Take your energy where it’s needed, thank you.

European Commission. (2020, August 12). Identifying conspiracy theories. European Commission. <https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/coronavirus-response/fighting-disinformation/identifying-conspiracy-theories_en>

Gerke, J., Fegert, J., Rassenhofer, M., & Fegert, J. M. (2024). Organized sexualized and ritual violence: Results from two representative German samples. Child Abuse & Neglect, 152, 106792. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.chiabu.2024.106792

[klien2000]

Shet saraff! Soafer sikip, soafer mestiza nmn ng ferson n i2~~ ptikim nmnz,,,,,

[1ndigoaway]

Is it just me who sees a parallel between Jame Eagan and powerful men like Elon Musk? Since in the finale Jame told Helly that he’s sired multiple children to try and find one with the same soul as Kier, he could have potentially dozens of children in the world all in the name of ideology.

Elon is similar, just replace Kier with fascism and white supremacy, him choosing ivf so he can select the sex of the foetus, despite pushing the idea of the importance of the nuclear family, his ‘family’ can’t be described as ‘traditional’.

Despite this, under patriarchy it was and is expected for powerful men to go out and sow their wild oats, it was expected and normalised for Kings to have bastards, and particularly these ideas do transcend to the modern day, to cishet men in particular regardless of class. How many times do we see men wanting to have children purely to carry on the family name (even if it’s a common last name like Smith) or legacy, these reasons are selfish but only furthers the idea of being important=continuing your genetic legacy. There’s a reason why the fact that Genghis Khan has over 16 million living descendants is seen as a ‘fun fact’ and not a consequence of the death, rape and destruction that he caused.

Going back to Jame, I’m assuming that in season 3 there’s the potential for Jame’s bastards to be further discussed, surely it’s not a coincidence that Gemma was scouted from the fertility clinic? Based on his age I’d assume that he’s also using IVF/surrogacy, there is also the possibility of him unconsenually using eggs from the clinic or even using innies as surrogates even if their outies are unaware, like how in season 1 the news report discusses a woman finding out that her innie got pregnant without her knowledge, the theme of pregnancy is too present for it to not go anywhere.

Although the Eagan family tree seems quite linear, it’s clear that it’s a lot messier than what appearances would suggest. What if ‘we’re all children of Kier’ isn’t corporate speak but is more literal than we think?

[weirdo-with-a-potato]

Just a reminder that ne*l didn’t have much to do with dbda…our boys just sort of showed up in a comic he worked on and he didn’t do much of anything on the show…plus the sandman (both tv and comic) had way more people working on it then just him. Good omens (book) was much more terry Prattchet then him and the tv show is much more then just him. As for other works of his (ie. stardust) we just gotta suffer.

You can still, of corse, read the books but make sure to get them from somewhere like a used book store or lent by a friend. Plus there are always other places to read his books that don’t give money to him…

I know that a lot of people looked up to him and he helped many people to accept themselves and that it hurts to loose someone who you looked up to (I’m treating it as if he is dead because my previous image of him was brutally stabbed to death). But he is only a man and there are many other people in the world.

If any one wants to talk about this (wants to rant, wants to just keyboard smash in anger, wants to cry [however you choose to express crying digitally]) feel free to do so. Or if you have anything to add, you can talk about that too. I know writing usually helps me to get through emotions and feel a bit better. Maybe it will work for you too.

btw if you have any other creators who have caused a similar situation, feel free to talk about that as well.

[fishareglorious]

all i'm asking for is that if we get a event in the philippines and there's a Storm there we should have a soundtrack that's a mashup between symbiosis and it's raining in manila

[jewishbarbies]

just saw an edition of a tiktok series titled “is your favorite celebrity a horrible person?” that talks about stuff they’ve done either good or bad, and this one was about brendon urie. it’s quite ironic taylor chose to collab with him on a song with his history of sa allegations and things he’s said about wanting to rape girls at his concerts, given taylor’s own sa trial, but it just mirrors her dating misogynist men like matty healy who get off to violent degradation porn and travis kelce with his own comments on how he views women. just another nail in the “taylor only cares about trauma when it’s her own” coffin.

[theclownonarock]

🗯 Arguments 🗯

The girl tried to get out of the giant's fist, but because how small she is she couldn't get it to budge, not even a tiny bit!

"Damn it.." The girl said as she tried to moved a finger away from the giant's fist.

Soldier: "Why is this thing moving so much? Is it trying to get itself away from us or something?"

Demoman: "OF COURSE SHE IS DUMBASS! WHAT DID YOU EXPECT? SHE'S NOT GOING TO TRUST US RIGHT THERE AND THAT! IS THAT WHAT YOU ALWAYS THINK?!"

Soldier: "Yes."

The girl listen to the conversation with confusion and annoyance, knowing these guys won't stop arguing and yelling.

"They're like cats and dogs with each other.."

The girl thought to herself as she was placed down on a table

SOLDIER: "Okay, runt...WHO ARE YOU AND WHY THE HELL ARE YOU HERE?"

The girl ignored the giant with annoyance.

"First, he almost kills me and now he wants to talk, lime we're having tea? Nice try!" The girl thought.."

"Maybe I can tell him my name and he'll let me go. That's right! That'd do it!"

The girl looked up at the giant with determination, as she took at deep breath and...

"I'm Li Sa. And that's all the information, I'm giving you! I don't trust giants at all."

SOLDIER: "Li...Sa? Why does it sound foreign? You're not a American? I thought everyone is American!?!"

Li Sa: "American? DO I LOOK LIKE A AMERICAN TO YOU? I SPOKE KOREAN WHEN I MET YOU! DO YOU ALWAYS THINK THIS?"

Soldier: "Yes?"

Demoman: "Welp, Lad. You're on your own with this lass. I hope you have a fun time. While I get a drink in the battle field."

"Wait...battle field? I'm in a battle field?!"

Li Sa grabbed her hair and looked around, seeing the outside.

Blood EVERYWHERE! GUSSING OUT OF A PERSON! NOT TO SEE ANYTHING OF IF, BUT YOU COULDN'T LOOK AWAY, AS YOU CAN SEE A HEAD BEING THROWN TO THE AIR! FUCKING HELL MAN!

Li Sa: "IT'S FUCKING OVER! FUCKING A MAN!"

It was no use. Town was miles away and it would be risky to run back! She could be shot, stepped on, slaughtered, split in half, torn, stabbed, and other possible stuff...

Li Sa: "IS there a way out of here or somewhere not risky to die?!"

Soldier: "Yeah, but for us it'll take 24 hours. You though, probably a week or maybe three weeks at the latest."

Li Sa: "US? THERE'S MORE OF YOU MONSTERS?!"

Soldier: "Well, yeah. There's Heavy, Demoman, Medic, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH....

Li Sa looked at the giant and then looked at her hands as she thought about dying because of how she was left or forgotten by her sick, and cruel mother...

End of next part! Took me a hour to think about the character build up and thoughts about the story! NEXT PART WILL BE IN A WEEK, OR LESS THAN THAT!

[arcann]

Thinking about it and neil gaiman's disappearance comes more from the fact that he willingly abandoned his public spaces. It also partially come from SA being so indefensible (... for now) and if he wins that judicial procedure against one of his victims he'll come back a la james gunn and act like he was absolved of all his crimes. Like it's too soon for gaiman fans to pat themselves in the back and act like they worked as a team and were the reason that asshole isn't on the internet anymore.

[lonestarflight]

The S-II stage being stacked onto the S-IC for Apollo 11 Saturn V (SA-506) in Vertical Assembly Building, Kennedy Space Center.

Date: March 5, 1969

NASA ID: KSC-69C-1940

[justbugzfornow]

Blair Siblings + Cousin Blackwood’s opinions on Li Sa.

this might be my last TF2 G/T post for a while so uh... yeah 😅

reminder that Li Sa is not my oc, she belongs to @littlecutiewithapie

Bug 🐛🪡- At first, Bug was concerned for Li Sa, like a child younger than them? Out with mercenaries that can easily kill her? How dangerous! Bug tries to keep her out of danger as much as possible when she travels outside where it's safe.

These two do have conversations once a while, mostly when Li Sa needs some comfort, but their other conversations can be rather strange but entertaining, especially one time where they were talking about the mercs for some reason, Bug was talking a bit about Demo and their little interactions until Li Sa spoke with a quick, “ Oh the drunken cyclops? Yeah, we hate each other." and Bug suddenly just goes quiet and stares at her like

yeah they are definitely going to have to talk to him about this. Bug may be horrible at English and don't know a thing in Korean, they try their best to understand Li Sa whenever she switches languages. Bug is literally Li Sa’s big sister now and you can't tell me otherwise.

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Cella 🧪🪶- Ultimate Besties for Life!!! Cella love spending time with Li Sa, they would do tons of stuff together like running around the hallways of the base, sleepovers, other fun activities like that! Cella likes to make flower crowns of random plants and flowers she found for Li Sa before she goes and finds her, she also liked to share her collection of different poison she keeps, but eventually stopped when one of the poisons almost fell on Li Sa (it was the broken shelf’s fault)

Cella has even been learning Korean, which makes it fun to talk about things in a language almost no one in the base knows (maybe), Cella also happens to stay around Li Sa so she doesn't accidentally leave and make Li Sa panic.

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Bean 🗝🌺- Bean doesn't mind Li Sa, she oftens like to mess around with her a lot, especially when these go out together, or possibly hang around the mercs. Bean may not know a single word in Korean but that doesn't bother her at all, she speaks Irish more than she speaks English anyway.

Bean would often take Li Sa at night to mess with the mercs' sleeping schedule, only for these two to get caught by Medic and oh boy… that experience is never a good sign.

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Robin🕯🔥- Robin is pretty chill with Li Sa, he enjoys the small talks these two have at times, although he doesn't understand whenever she speaks Korean but he tries his best, although he’ll have to be mindful whenever he speaks Vietnamese.

Robin often likes to take Li Sa to show her the beauty of a single flame, and all the tricks it can do to make it a more enjoyable experience, but he’a careful while doing it, in case Li Sa is afraid of fire. And sometimes as little gift, Robin would come and drop off food that he stole from the mercs to give to her, how kind of him! :]

[godhasatenderheart]

I was raped a few months ago and i'm still struggling to forgive the man (i mean in my heart, not to his face- it's unlikely i'll ever see him again). Could you share some Scripture about forgiveness?

I’m so sorry—I’ve been through something similar. Forgiveness in situations like this is rarely straightforward, but it’s inspiring that you’re already seeking to forgive him. Be kind to yourself, okay? Don’t put too much pressure on yourself to forgive within a specific timeline. In my experience, time helped, and God showed me how much He has forgiven me, which softened the pain of betrayal and made forgiveness possible. Here are some words from God. I pray they bring comfort to your soul, dear one.

Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.

—Ephesians 4:32 (ESV)

And Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” And they cast lots to divide his garments.

—Luke 23:34 (ESV)

“But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,

—Luke 6:27 (ESV)

But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil. 36 Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful.

—Luke 6:35-36 (ESV)

Do not repay evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary, bless, for to this you were called, that you may obtain a blessing.

—1 Peter 3:9 (ESV)

Do not say, “I will repay evil”; wait for the LORD, and he will deliver you.

—Proverbs 20:22 (ESV)

“Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 4 “Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.

—Matthew 5:3-4 (ESV)

Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.

—1 John 4:11 (ESV)

[theberriesncream]

TW: SA

"Ever since I saw him in the eyes I know something is wrong with him... he is charismatic, he is a good talkative man and he is rich. Of course the higher ranks accept him in this mission, even my own friends like him, but in my case...

He looks at me in a way that he dosn't see my crewmates. He smiles at me, but in a creepy way...

One time I saw him closer to me, I told the others about it. But they told me he was just wanting to say hello and moved on...

...I was outside when everyone was asleep in the room, looking at the Stars in the night, I breath in and close my eyes, heavy breathing can be heard behind me. I opened my eyes, turn around... it was him... I tried to escape but he was stronger than me, I tried to scream but he grabed my neck before I can even do that... he push me to the wall, I really wish I can't remember what happend..."

[fexallegraaa]

🐾 boop boopity boop 🐾

[thoughtfulfangirling]

You know, this scene really does have a vibe of a show talking about something much more serious than it can portray in a children's show. I don't know if I'd say there's something going on allegorical to some sort of assault or harassment, but that doesn't feel too far off anyway. There are just certain things that people with advantage can do, and this very much has that feel. As long as deniability is maintained, he has power and Elisa does not. He can do what he wants to her and her family, and she has no recourse. And I really feel that in this last panel. I'd say thank goodness they didn't use her sister for that or this could come off looking even darker, but I am now convinced that Derek wouldn't be safe from advances either if that was Xanatos's way. Though in that respect, I'm inclined to think that not his style.

But also I especially feel like this stuff Fox is telling Elisa is her having fun being mean. Wanting Derek became his plan. I don't care if it was creator intent. I'm far more convinced Derek's actual skills did impress Xanatos and then it just became a delightful little perk that he could mess with Elisa and the gargoyles (*cough*Goliath*cough*) in the process.

[henchwife]

God help me I'm actually starting to enjoy fighting Lagiacrus underwater

[thatoneandlonelyemo2005]

LISA FOR THE FUCKING WIN