#SQ s1

[henyrmlls]

EMMA SWAN and REGINA MILLS | Season 1

We have to stop this. Arguing won’t accomplish anything. No, it won’t. What do you want me to do? Help me.

[elisgeorge]

SwanQueen would 100% be canon if the show came out today and that is the most tragic thing about it.

[kneeslapworthy]

as im rewatching season 1 i keep getting reminded of just the nuances of SQ?? when Reynie asks to be brought to the forest for the first time and SQ says ‘authorized access only’ and he sort of laughs? like he finds those circumstances ridiculous? like. he’s bitterly aware of the irony of his life and in a way how ridiculous his father is. he’s aware of the strangely strained friendship between Dr Garrison and his father, he’s aware of Dr Curtain’s controlling and paranoid parenting style, he sees all of it. the boy is an observer first, artist second. and idk i just love my son. 

[mbsgifs]

top three episodes of the mysterious benedict society as voted by our followers

↳ #2: the dance of the celestial orb (1x07) - tied with a two-way street (2x08)

[x-birdsong-x]

Can and have talked too much about Chanel's reactions to finding Hester like this before

I'll answer the ships for the game when I finish TFGS I'm grabbing shots still and then I'll put S2 on my other laptop for now until I need shots from there for any reason.

Retcon time,,, Hester deserved better

[eileennatural]

why didn't i know abt the new season of avenue five

[251-dmr]

The 2-AziraCrow Theory

Maybe I should be calling this my head canon, and not even give it theory status.

But I’ll press on nevertheless. This theory had a seed planted when I saw this quote mentioned at the end of one of Sendarya’s videos in which she mentioned the Theologica Germanica concept of the soul having two halves.

The soul has two eyes When one makes an effort Without the other It shan't get very far, When they help each other They accomplish much. [William of St-Thierry]

Some time later, I began to see the pattern, a theme, that seemed to emphasize the concept of twos.

After noticing these, I started looking for other repeating, seemingly frequent ideas.

These ideas just keep crashing and bouncing and ricocheting around in my head. They just won’t coalesce into anything coherent. My apologies for the chaos and disorganization.

Theme – Two, Half, Split There are references everywhere, in dialog and visually, to “2”s, “halves”, and “splits”. Far too many to list, but examples include putting the lesser demons on half rations; being shown a demon’s split-tongue three different times, Azi & Crowley performing half a miracle each; Shax asking Crowley about the two yellow(!) lights on the boiler; the twin passions of Bildad; Crowley leads the humans out of the bookshop 2x2; even Uriel makes two complete revolutions pacing around Michael in the scene before Sq and Muriel arrive in E1. Honestly, the list is extensive. I suppose, however, that it could be referring to two of any number of things.

Theme – Inside/Outside Again, we have dialog and visuals that emphasize the idea of things being inside or outside, but especially inside. Azi to Crowley in the smitten scene “Why don’t you wait inside? You like to wait inside?” Nina’s “A lot of people in this head…”; And we have so many scenes of someone looking inside or out a window. I have quite a list in another document on my computer.

Theme – Spies This one starts right off with the spy sitting down at the wrong bench, next to Crowley. Shax recruits Crowley to try and find out what’s going on in the Up. Beez recruits Crowley to help find Gabriel, etc. Then there’s Jane Austen, master spy. The three zombies spying on them to get Furfur’s proof and we could even say that those go back to S1E3, 1941, “…half-witted Nazi spies running about London…” And, I also really, really don’t trust Michael. Could they be a spy for hell in heaven? But I don’t have any real evidence for that. Just a distrust of Michael.

Theme – “Bit”s Another word used throughout the season, and maybe even in S1. Well, we definitely have the final S1 scene with Azi saying to Crowley “…if you weren’t, at heart, just a little bit, a good person.” Searching the S2 transcript comes up with ~25-ish uses of the word. Is that a lot? Or normal? I have nothing to compare to it, nor base it on. So although Azi is not Crowley’s “bit on the side”, I thought, maybe Crowley is sometimes Azi’s “bit on the inside”.

Theme – Point Another well-used word throughout the script, appearing ~24 times. This is trickier, though, because “point” can have a number of reasons – the reason or conclusion, indicating direction, or the sharp point, of, say, a pin? I suspect that all are somehow applicable in this season.

But just looking at the last one, it could be a call-back to S1 and how many angels, or demons, can dance on the head of a pin. Where we learn that Crowley can make himself small enough to speed through a telephone wire.

I always vaguely thought Crowley’s line to Mrs Sandwich about whether or not she had her hatpin was a bit of an odd, maybe throw-away line and Mrs Sandwich responds so quickly and charmingly that the line gets passed over. But again, is it a reminder of what angels and demons are capable of? Or does this line mean something else I’m just not aware of?

Theme – Small Crowley Not as fully developed, and maybe not as obvious, but in E1 on the bench, for example, after the spy leaves, we see “normal-sized” Crowley immediately followed by seeing a “small” Crowley in Shax’s compact mirror (and he’s looking out of the mirror, see above) when she arrives. In the resurrection minisode, we see another “small” Crowley, when he’s off his head on laudanum.

Theme – “Invisible” Crowley As far as I’ve gotten to date, there are two definite scenes where I think Crowley is actually inside Azi’s head (or whatever) and not physically there.

First, when they leave GMCoGMD with the Eccles cakes in E1. As soon as they are outside the shop, Azi barely looks at Crowley, and Maggie doesn’t seem to see him, that brief conversation is only between Azi and Maggie. Crowley only “talks” to Azi once they’ve started walking again.

Second, and the bigger one, is in E5 when Azi heads out to solicit the shopkeepers to go to the meeting. Crowley asks “Can I watch?” and just follows Azi around and again, Azi barely looks at him; the shopkeepers appear to act as if they are only talking to one person, and Crowley is completely quiet around them, just hanging around in the background.

I also noticed that in these cases Crowley is on Azi’s right, the opposite of where we usually see him. (Oh, an exception is Mrs Cheng, where he’s on Azi’s left again, and he acknowledges Mrs Cheng when they leave, implying to me that Mrs Cheng can see him.) There could be more instances where we see this behavior, but I haven’t studied every episode yet to look for it.

Theme – S2 posters Just looking at these two for now. Azi and Crowley with one pair of wings, one white one black, behind them. I’ve seen the line “…and they aren’t talking…” I’m not quite convinced yet that they aren't talking. I think it could mean they aren’t talking face-to-face, physically. And I optimistically see their positioning as that they’ve still got each other’s back. Maybe I’m in denial, but I just don’t see the “break-up” as extensive as many seem to.

The other poster is this one of Azi and Crowley, each with the other in their heads/thoughts. Crowley is “seeing” Azi from a memory, from 1941. But Azi is seeing a current Crowley, draped across the bookshop chair. Also, I noted that the [double!] rings that surround them are linked.

My way-out-there idea, then, is that Azi and Crowley have “carved out” space for a duplicate but also somehow real, bookshop (a high-fidelity copy?) within Azi, within his mind, his brain, his soul, I don’t know. And he can enter and leave it as needed. It could also be a copy of Azi’s memories or something.

But it’s also someplace Crowley can visit, a place he can go in and out of (like the telephone lines in S1) as needed. I wonder, then, does Crowley in the end “split” himself, so that a “bit” of himself can go up to heaven with Azi? Referring back to Jane Austen, brandy smuggler – is Azi smuggling Crowley into heaven? All season, Azi usually has his hands closed, perhaps to imply he’s carrying and/or hiding something.

With this theory, it gets complicated, though, figuring out which “reality” we’re looking at. The external original(?) world? Azi’s copy in his head? Or a memory? Or none of the above and this is all nonsense.

Multiple sets of memories, possibly getting mixed together, could help account for the inconsistencies in flashbacks, the apparent “continuity errors” in various scenes, the changing POV.

We’ve seen the physical appearance swap. We’ve seen Azi’s physical possession of Madame Tracy in which they could both control the body. What I am considering is neither of those.

This is just a start. I’ll keep working on it unless someone already has some convincing evidence that clearly refutes the idea.

[ouatsnark]

sqs are exhausting. one claiming "the jab you with my sword line being apart of r*pe culture and it's not just killian implying sex with the line he wants to exert power over emma in that moment...but that's the point! he's an asshole trying to throw her off her balance & she kicks his ass!! he's also throwing the fight so she could get the compass and get back to henry! obviously in that point in the show emma isn't that experienced and he is (he def taught her the spin move emma does in s4)

So I've actually talked about how Regina and SwanQueen are the real so called "rape culture" : here and here

But the highlights are:

My favorite way to respond to this is bringing up the fact that the SwanQueen fandom sexualizes Regina's "how to get the savior to taste my forbidden fruit" which is Regina literally drugging Emma

In fact they sexualize all of S1-2 as Regina and Emma being in love while Regina is very clearly trying to kill Emma. The fact that they believe either is in love with the other during this is the epitome of "abuse culture".

Regina's rape and abuse of Graham is the canon sexual abuse that is ignored. In fact the majority of her fans see Graham as the lucky one or Regina as the victim because of the show's poor handling of this which is in fact real "rape culture" as they make Regina out to be the victim instead of the monster that she is.

Regina is so much more than "rape culture" she's more like "villain culture" because she gets away with all of her crimes without paying for them, without any sacrifice at all or admitting of any guilt that has her groveling at the feet of her victims. In fact, she continues to insult and bully her victims without repercussions. Killian actually suffers immediate consequences for his actions.

Sexual innuendo is not rape. There is nothing about that S2 scene between Emma and Hook that casts his remark in a good light. Because as you say, she kicks his ass. If this was "rape culture" Emma would've swooned. But she didn't, therefore, not "rape culture".

YES he is a 300 year old asshole PIRATE! The humor in this is that Emma, a modern woman, is fighting a 300 year old PIRATE! Like. Laugh a little people. FFS. She doesn't get with him until AFTER he's left this life behind. AND after he decides to leave pirating behind we never see this crass behavior again because Killian actually goes through a change.

Also, that fight scene is so complex, really. Because on one hand I fully believe that he very much wanted to be the one getting to Storybrook and would've done everything necessary to get there because at this point his revenge came first and she'd just betrayed him. He was a little pissed at her. He was also very much still a villain at this point. I mean one of my favorite things about him is that he dropped the crass behavior as his redemption progressed. The pirate who made this crass joke to piss Emma off is not the same pirate she walked down the aisle with. HOWEVER, the fact that he was making jokes and not trying that hard to defeat her has me 100% believing that his heart was not into winning this fight.

[imminent-danger-came]

tip toes here im probably just gonna ramble incoherently but

i know youve talked about the theme of other people stealing mks power and using it for their own gain, im gonna add my two cents in with the simple fact that, them taking his power backfired. badly.

spider queen tried to rule the world using that power, ended up getting her mech destroyed and would’ve probably crawled back to the sewers if not for lbd.

lbd basically built her ass mech by taking a BUNCH of mks power, ended up being super mega deluxe dead.

Azure well. Yeah, “… but it wasnt in my power, it was in yours.” He DIRECTLY manipulated mk, and mk destroyed that guy, putting the world at risk of being torn apart i might add. (rest in peace azure lion beach episode featuring you wouldve been too powerful). Yknow it kinda seems like his power is getting more unstable throughout the show, i might talk about that later not rn.

NOW FINALLY TO THE POINT. We may not know much about the hooded underworld figure, but if their objective is to use mk and his for their own means? to control chaos itself? i dont think thats going to go very well. not for the antagonist, not for the world, definitely not for mk and his friends.

oki das it srry if that was unclear n stuff i dont talk ab my thoughts much baiiii

Haaaiiiii

Yeah, there is a pattern in lmk of someone taking/using MK's powers, succeeding for a little while, before MK, and partially themselves, are ultimately their undoing (Macaque in 1x09, SQ in s1-ROTSQ, LBD in s2-s3, Azure in s4). Like we are 4 for 4 on each season including this trend, I doubt s5 is gonna be different. This is the "stories repeat over and over again" show

And like, our next antagonist is probably going to continue the "fixing the world/removing pain" pattern, this time through chaos, but using MK like everyone else did. It didn't go well the last few times, and it's not going to go well this time.

Personally, I think it'll go a step further and have MK feel the repercussions for using his own power you know. It's not going to go well for him either, in whatever way he's trying to control the world ("So as long as I have my friends by my side; this world is perfect!" , "I'm kinda liking the world as it is right now. So if it could just stay like this forever? That would be awesome.")

[henyrmlls]

EMMA SWAN & REGINA MILLS -> Once Upon a Time, 1.01

[tonyglowheart]

Okay I finished s1 of the donghua, and... the storytelling in the latter half, where it starts deviating from the novel and like starts condensing the story down, doesn't feel as tight as the first part, but is still decent enough. The animation is sooo good in the fight scenes. They do kind of overuse that, like... idk how to describe it, the like Into the Spider-Verse Prowler sound, I think, but whatever

Yan Wushi... the way they redid his deal to fit within the limits of donghua episode counts (presumably) is interesting in comparison to the novel. I don't hate it lol, but I do think it kinda softens YWS in a way that he is Not in the novel. Bl

But so far they are kinda threading the needle in that he is concealing his burgeoning softer side from SQ so SQ still thinks he's heartless and all that. But the softening of YWS for the donghua is interesting and tbh, I think not a bad choice.

With the novel, SQ is the POV character so it's fine to get more in that sort of limited POV writing/character development with non-POV characters. But with donghua where the perspective is set on a third person omniscient, you do kind of have to tweak characters who may be more unsympathetic to the audience esp if they are lead characters to make them more so. It's like what they did in the Princess Bride.

So yeah, very interested to see where they take this in s2. and sad they maybe possibly can't go more explicit with the relationship lmao, cuz actually the story/character changes in the donghua as compared to the novel better set up yanshen for a relationship that is more acceptable slash comprehensible to a greater base I think lol.

[kneeslapworthy]

idk i guess i just find it strange that the one bird we see SQ draw and name just happens to have the same name as one of the main characters (george). idk maybe it just makes me want to theorize that SQ knows a whole lot more than he lets on. idk...

[you-taste-likewhiskey]

Hey can you help me?

I'm going to make SQ content to give something to the fandom. First thing will be a video.

Have you any scenes that you think SHOULD be in that video?

I mean I have ideas in mind but I think I could use a little help since I can't through all episodes of OUAT.

Thanks in advance!

Calling all my fellow SQers to help out this lovely person!!

Please, please, PLEASE, let this post explode into an endless selection of Swanqueen gifs/scenes! 😍

I'll start off with one of my favourites, the "I want you right here, right now" scene (s1 e5):

And of course, I can't pass the baton unless I include my favourite "look into your lover's eyes" scene (s3 e13):

Now we're counting on you SQers!!! Share your favourite SQ scenes! ❤️

[nocakesformissedith]

also for you if you're willing: Sadie/Libby for the ship bingo. you've given me sqs brainworms tysm

Thank youuuu!!

You said a lot of the things I think about them in your answer— especially about wanting their plot to outlive Chanel and betray her to have actually been a plot line instead of just one scene and then Hester tricking them into plotting to kill Chanel for One episode. There are so many things I wish were explored with them…. The fact that they were friends— almost certainly roommates— BEFORE Chanel became the “Queen of Kappa Kappa Tau,” were they already Chanels?? Were they even friends with Chanel???? I don’t think so, considering they weren’t part of Melanie’s squad. And the idea that Sadie and Libby were friends before they joined Chanel is so interesting and kinda sweet lol. Something I love is that Sadie will be a caring friend to Libby and genuinely enjoy her company but then when Chanel is around she immediately joins in on bullying her and acts like she hates her— I think that they both get along with each other more than they do Chanel for the most part (mostly ignoring s2) buuut they both also want Chanel to like themselves more than the other Chanel and will throw each other under the bus to get it. The two of them turning on Chanel would have been so entertaining and also cathartic to see, as much as I love The Chanels dynamic. Sadie fully believing Libby was the Red Devil and yet still holding and comforting her is to me one of the most heartwarming moments in the show, and it’s just quietly played. I didn’t really like how S2 amped up on Sadie (and to a lesser extent, every character who wasn’t Zayday) ganging up on Libby with Chanel: yes, it was there in s1, but in s2 it got to the point where there wasn’t any comedy, it was just watching Abigail Breslin get verbally abused and body shamed. What was interesting about Sadie in s1 is how, despite her lack of emotions, genuinely loyal she was to The Chanels as a group, and despite participating in the bullying at times, she genuinely did care about what happened to Libby and wanted the group to stay together. I think the implication at the end of S2- that Libby has more or less completely left The Chanels is perfect, and I wish Libby and Zayday a happy honeymoon.

This was a mess lmao idek what I’m saying anymore but thank you again!!

[icy-watch]

ask 2/2 relating to Minor Scale. Blink and you'll miss it...

His eyes glow blue in some way due to LBD

They return to gold when he has the staff and confronts her

Back to blue when she begins to actually attack him

When SQ arrives, despite his eyes not flicking back to gold, he uses a Monkey King power to shrink and escape...

But that blue never went away...

Things to notice... Things to 𝘳𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘮𝘣𝘦𝘳

Ok, so my theory has to do with him no longer being invincible after he gave that up to have better control of his powers in the first episode of s1.

He's slowly gaining it back, however, especially with the more often that he uses his powers. However, he's beginning to doubt himself and Sun Wukong. So maybe... hmmm... I had an idea and I lost it. Ah well.

[saptaincwan]

Top 5 unpopular opinions? 😏

in this fandom Every opinion feels both extremely popular and extremely unpopular 😭 lemme try!

sq wasn't qbaiting idk what y'all saw between them but i just don't think it was there. also i think the step grandma thing should make it weirder for others but 🤷‍♀️

I HATED EMMA'S WEDDING DRESS,,, i think within canon i could see cs both having a nice wedding AND eloping depending on context but the one thing i can't reconcile. is her wedding dress im so sorry :'^)

neal should've lived. BUT. still exited the show. i think the combination of both of these is what makes it unpopular?? idk how to word this rn besides "i found his death cringe" 😭

i can't watch. the musical episode. i like the songs but it's so hard for me to watch the ep and it's very much a Me thing but i can't watch musical eps for non-musical series FKJSDFSD. am trying to get over this though. for ouat and ouat only <3 maybe someday i'll watch it in full without crying

s1 was just as silly and insane as the other seasons. and that's a reason why it's good. i feel like i see a lot of ppl talk abt s1 as if it was more serious?? no it wasn't. if bo peep was introduced in s1 she Still would've been a mob boss! also s4 + s5 are good!