#Saige

[literalite]

listening to the thousand hands that clap for me in the dark

[omfgingers]

[bethel-rath]

Kriese - Master Post

For legal purposes, all testimonies and commentary on this page or any of the documents linked from it are allegations. The screenshots, however, are evidence. Any edits will be very obvious and for the purpose of respecting confidentiality.

Hey yall. I'm Kriese (aka Keira, aka 4 Pings: explanation of that one here). I am a former friend of Poppy and Zena's going back to Spring 2021, and I was an Archon (Moderator) of The Foundation starting around Fall 2021. I would not say I was their closest friend; but we shared secrets and they trusted me. I trusted them, too.

A lot happened in between then and now, and I have shared some of that publicly since coming out against them. I have decided to update my previous master post in order to change it from just listing the published documents to instead be a cataloging of what I feel are important or relevant statements, either here on Tumblr or on Twitter. A lot has happened very quickly in the past several months, and it is not all organized.

I do however recommend yall go check out Milena's Poppy and Zena: Abusive Hypocrites Hub Doc. In it are links to all of the already published docs, including Abusive Hypocrites 2.

Below here will be links to and descriptions of what I consider to be semi-important to important statements I've personally made publicly. They're not in any specific order (at the moment; I may go back later and reconsider).

When GayFesh Said People Privately Reached Out to Him, One of Those was Me. I discreetly talked to Fesh once while still in The Foundation. It occurred the night after he made his original public callout post on Twitter. We asked each other to keep our conversation a secret. I wanted his perspective on a few things. We didn't speak again until after I left The Foundation.

I Will Never Again Publicly Talk About RGR. Here's Why.

My First Signed Anonymous Ask to Heloise. This was done in response to Poppy posting my private DMs between myself and her after she dropped into my DMs while I was working.

Followup to That First anonymous Ask Much Later as Myself. In this I better explain what was going on around that time, why I believe Poppy reached out to me, and why I reacted the way I did.

A Signed Anonymous Ask to Heloise Calling Out Poppy Continually Using Spawn's Preferred Name. I was frustrated with Poppy not protecting peoples' identities when she herself should understand what it meant to be doxxed. This was an expression of that feeling.

I Discuss Not Wanting to Take Away What The Foundation has Meant to Others. As it became clear I would be speaking out in the future, I wanted it to be clear that just because I had issues with Zena and Poppy that should not take away from what support and community others had found there. Consider it a time capsule of my feelings and beliefs at that time.

My Offer to Talk to Anyone on Discord. Poppy initially vaguetweeted about me reaching out to Chem and Naomi, which prompted me to send Heloise this signed anonymous ask. Poppy decided to just called me out directly on Twitter afterwards. For what it's worth, I never spoke to Chem, and my interaction with Naomi was just sharing the Spawn 1 doc.

Discussion of What Lead to Me Leaving The Foundation. I sent this as a signed anonymous ask to Heloise in preparation of Luxander's stream and the publication of Abusive Hypocrites 2.

I Reiterate I Never Wanted Poppy to Lose Her Job. This is why I had my final fight in Archon.

About How I Connected With Milena After Leaving The Foundation. This signed anonymous ask was sent after Luxander's stream and Abusive Hypocrites 2 was published. I wanted to provide context for my contribution to the doc and me going public.

My Explanation of the 4 Pings Meme Poppy Made About Me. On March 22nd, Poppy created a bunch of memes about a statement I made during my final argument in Archon chat before leaving The Foundation. This is my explanation of it.

About Patchwork Heart and His Response on Stream. I had watched the VoD of the Cope and Seethe stream he went on, and I wanted to be charitable in how Patchwork Heart reacted to reading the docs (especially the stuff about Spawn).

Further Request to Give Patchwork Heart Space He Needs. I made this as a pseudo follow-up statement to the post above.

Saige Accuses Me of "Turning" Patchwork Heart with a $25 Ki-Fi Donation. This one bothered me a lot, and I responded on both Twitter and Tumblr. The Twitter posts are included within the Tumblr blog.

My Identity. This is where I revealed that I was the one running this Tumblr blog. I have not revealed the reason before, but it was due to Annie discovering my blog and thinking I was a Milena sock-puppet account. I decided that it was better to come clean about who I was rather than let that be assumed to be the truth.

I Disavow and Don't Support KF.

My Commentary on The Alt-Right Playbook. And how it pertains to this situation.

Poppy Heaps Praise on a Twitter Follower for Harassing Noehflake. So much for just wanting people to block her. I believe that is still the party line.

Discussion of Poppy's Behavior Pertaining to Control / Sex From My Perspective and Where Something Changed. This was due to an anonymous ask I received at the time.

When Did Poppy Start Getting Obsessed with Porn/NSFW Art? I provide my perspective of when I noticed the shift.

Succubi Want Consent. Why? In retrospect, it appears I might have been just mixing up the tweet thread I had caught with a previous discussion on stream as I never could find a stream segment. Well, the referenced tweet is included.

I Did Believe Poppy for Weeks About Her SA Allegations. I only changed my mind when evidence was presented about both the timeline of events and what had happened in private.

The Line Between Friend and Moderator is Fine on The Foundation. I chime in to discuss how moderators are selected by Poppy and Zena, and who was being shared the timeline of events of the Courtney Orchard / KP situation back in September 2023.

Is It a Conflict of Interest to Be a Friend and a Moderator at the Same Time? I do my best to answer the question here. It's complicated.

Timeline of Poppy and Zena Instituting a "Conflict of Interest" Moderator Rule and Sharing CO/KP Timeline of Events; Poppy and Zena Safety Report Published by KP Moderation Team. Both of these are relevant topics to stuff that happened in Fall 2023 with Poppy and Zena, Courtney Orchard, and ILoveKimPossibleALot. I was not kept particularly informed of the day-to-day details myself at the time.

I Discuss The System Reorganization of The Gentry to L'Enfants Diabolique and How Penny Changed. No, I'm not talking about Penny the OC. I'm talking about Penny the headmate.

I Give a Good-Faith Response to AnnieGal. It was clear she was not engaging in good faith with me (she later admits as much), but I did my best to engage in good faith with what she gave me. I wanted to show I am who I always was.

A Response to Night Wyld. I waited over a month to make any public statement outside of some comments on Malcolm's Poppyverse discord, and I only did so because Night Wyld publicly attacked me again on their Tumblr. The contents within finally forced me to decide to make a public statement. As their Tumblr has been suspended and Annie has taken down her reblog of the post, the evidence is currently not on this site. I still have it (as do other places).

Cross-Post From Twitter About Wiping Messages on The Foundation Before I Left and Why. I did not wipe everything, but I wiped a lot. I felt it was important people know I chose to do so.

My Recommendations for How to Behave When it Comes to Rhetoric. It's clear not everyone agrees with what I said, but I stand by it.

An Apology to Saige for Never Reaching Out. I should have done so much, much sooner.

What's The Play Here? This isn't particularly important, but I'm putting it here for two reasons. One: I did send a private message to Poppy wishing her a Happy Birthday; Two: Poppy revealed that I had sent her a Cease and Desist, and that is true.

If something is not here, it's still in the archives. Nothing is deleted.

Take care all,

Kriese, aka Keira

[poppyandzena]

This is awful and it sucks I’m going to lose the only community I have, but I can stand by this behavior anymore. I’ve been supportive of Poppy, Zena, and Saige because I thought they were being harassed and abused, and I do think some of what people are saying about them is overblown, but it’s clear they have mishandled the power of their community and platform.

I just feel like they’re getting worse and I wish they’d take a step back and reflect on their actions. Also the shit about asexuality is awful. I supported Poppy when the narrative was “my ex claimed she could not have assaulted me because she’s asexual” but now she’s trying to deny her ex’s sexuality and is posting their private flirtatious messages.

There seems to be more and more bad behavior documented here and some straight-up abusive stuff regarding Zena’s treatment of Poppy’s kid. I can see why they were so adamant that no one in their community look them up on tumblr.

I appreciate you sending me this. I hope you're feeling okay amidst all of this.

[kats-chaotic-wonderland]

Practicing some more Chibis, so this time around I pulled some of my favorite OC designs to make fan art of. These are the Wonderful Glam Rock Sophie from @zerozeroren , and I made Glam Rock versions of Emerald Entropy from @mikaila-orchard , and Saige from @lily-orchard to match. I picked these 100% based on design. I was going to add two more from Lily, but I don't know if Asana and Vanessa would go Glam Rock. (forgive me if I've misspelled any names, I can correct them)

I hope everyone enjoys them!!

(I am not personally associated with any of these blogs, I just enjoy their content. Anyone being a garbage human on this post will be yeeted.)

Like my work? Get a chibi here!

[sookcloud]

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[lolotheparagon]

My character Janice hanging out with Lily's character Saige and Mikaila's character Emerald Entropy on a full day shopping trip

[peirres-play-place]

more oc stuff

[jovenshires]

my roman empire is how badly it went when saige left smosh. they had to crop her out of the flashback clip in today's eat it or yeet it

[coconutlicorice]

This dress is just perfect for Saige, from her New Mexican sister!

[gayfesh]

Since we’re airing our grievances today, I’ll add mine to the pile. It was embarrassing when you argued what happened to Saige wasn’t sexual assault or abuse. We spent weeks dunking on Poppy stans when they argued what happened to Dom wasn’t technically sexual harassment. You made us all look like hypocrites. I don’t care if it’s technically in the definition or not, flashing your breasts/penis isn’t okay.

I handled that whole thing poorly. I was intending to focus on the escalation of language and changing terminology to point out Saige was pulling from the same playbook as Poppy: people weren't reacting strongly enough to her expose for her liking, so she escalated. Just as Poppy insisted at first that what Noeh did wasn't rape but now just openly calls her a rapist, Saige was first calling it sexual harassment and abuse, even saying that she HADN'T called it sexual assault, and then changing her language to elicit a stronger reaction.

I let Saige bait me into arguing over definitions, I got lost in the weeds, and that was clearly a mistake on my end. I should have just kept focusing on how Saige has been willing to misrepresent and outright lie about everything else in order to curry favor with Poppy and thus for that reason her accusations of sexual assault should be treated exactly the same way we should treat all her her other allegations: point out that she is a demonstrable liar.

[literalite]

forget the hurt for somewhere else don't leave behind myself

[omfgingers]

[bethel-rath]

I don't think I need to say anything here.

I'll just link to my blog post explaining my side of what happened.

[poppyandzena]

While you're definitely measured in your responses, I appreciate that you don't yield to manipulation. I feel like many are quick to defend Saige and the other enablers when many of them are clearly aware of the evidence but just don't care since they feel that they benefit from the relationship in some way.

At this point Saige is most likely operating on a sunk cost mindset. I think it was a terrible idea to integrate her channel with Poppy and Zena's because it makes it harder to pull away and be more independent. She's tied her face, voice, and opinions to people who are horrible and an optics nightmare. Saige is also not an innocent person.

It's a really weird move to deflect the accusations against your partners by saying "I'm not being victimized. I've acted abusive and have been accused of being a terrible partner too!"

[chiakinanami82]

My Sides’ Playlists

I was inspired by Sanders Sides to create my own sides, and then when Thomas made playlists for them, I made my own for my sides. It was just a list of songs on a piece of paper until now. I used YouTube to create them, and I’m posting them here for convenience.

Rebecca is my Creativity, and she loves musicals. Unlike Roman, she gets along with the Dark Sides and she reads.

Sophia’s the logical one, and she enjoys the Ace Attorney series.

Saige’s my morality. She’s a bit immature, and she enjoys puns.

Athena’s my anxiety. They love horror and mostly keep to themselves. They have a goth heart and an emo soul.

Luna’s my lust. Yeah, I don’t know why I made her, but she’s here for a good time, darlings. A lot of her songs are hilarious and horny.

Ari’s my Rage. He loves working out, so a lot of his music is like a workout playlist.

Sachiko’s my insanity. She loves killing people, and is very childish, so there’s a bit of overlap between her and Saige, despite their strained relationship.

Vanessa’s my deceit. She’s actually pretty chill, despite being Rebecca’s ex. It’s a long story.

And that’s it! I hope you enjoy the music!