#Silphium

[gwydpolls]

Time Travel Question 52: Medievalish and Earlier

These Questions are the result of suggestions a the previous iteration. This category may include suggestions made too late to fall into the correct earlier time grouping. In some cases a culture lasted a really long time and I grouped them by whether it was likely the later or earlier grouping made the most sense with the information I had.

Please add new suggestions below if you have them for future consideration. All cultures and time periods welcome.

We already did the burnings which lost their bracket, but the culture lasted a long time across a big area, and people keep suggesting it.

[whencyclopedia]

Silphium

Silphium (also known as laser) was an uncultivated plant that grew in Cyrene, North Africa (modern Shahhat, Libya) and became the cash crop of the region of Cyrenaica between c. 631 BCE and the 1st century CE when, according to Pliny the Elder, it had become extinct. Its disappearance is considered the first recorded species extinction in history.

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[faguscarolinensis]

Silphium perfoliatum / Cup Plant at the Sarah P. Duke Gardens at Duke University in Durham, NC

[briery]

A closer look reveals the delicate fronds of Ferula drudeana propagated at Istanbul’s Nezahat Gökyiğit Botanical Garden. The Ferula genus of flowering plants includes carrots, fennel, and parsley.

[sarahreesbrennan]

thinkin' about IOL today because i saw an article claiming silphium has been rediscovered as Not Extinct After All. great news for our favorite bluestocking, i think. ^^ have a lovely day~

It's time for silphium to prove me canon or not canon re its contraceptive properties! I used it as my fantasy contraceptive to tie in with trigon, and look where we are.

History is a two-headed snake of a story, always coming back for us. I do hope the direwolves are next. I'm always going about telling people they were real.

[theresastarmanwaitinginthesky008]

I feel the heart is the most aromantic organ. I know what your think but hear me out.

Most people associate the heart with love, and this is mainly because of the love heart shape (which is actually to do with love) has the same name as the organ.

But the shape actually originally comes from the Silphium's seedpod plant which was seen as a herb of love and sex, it was also used as an early form of birth control. The plant was the put on ancient Cyrene money.

Anyway, in reality in the brain controls love. The feeling of love is controlled by three hormones, oxytocin, dopamine, and serotonin. The brain controls the secretion of all hormones, and the glands of all three of these hormones are in the brain (except dopamine which can come from the the hypothalamus, in the brain, and the adrenal glands, above kidneys).

In reality the only effect love has on the heart is that it can speed up your pulse (how fast the heart bets), but that is true for way to many other things for it to be considered a connection, non one every relates being scared, angry or stressed to the heart (unless for medical reasons as lots stress can cause the blood vessel to narrow).

But despite the heart (organ) having nothing to do with love, romance or sex, it is seen as such and those things are forced on it. As an aromantic person I think that’s quite relatable.

[sapphia]

For anyone who may be misinformed about the rediscovery of silphium:

Yes, we may have rediscovered silphium, the roman 'miracle herb' that could supposedly be used to treat dozens of ailments and was a staple of roman cooking

We don’t know whether or not it’s silphium because we still don’t know what silphium is

We have no way of confirming it’s silphium. To confirm this, we would need to discover preserved samples of the plant, which is possible but not likely

It may not be silphium. BUT! There is a huge amount of overlap between this plant (ferula drudeana) and what we know of silphium, a FAR greater overlap than any other plant species we know of. If this isn’t silphium, it could well be the closest plant we will ever find to it

You cannot buy seeds of it

You absolutely SHOULD NOT buy silphium in any form for hobby growing or use (culinary or otherwise).

This plant is critically endangered. It does not grow well outside of very specific areas and there is likely not enough species to get any real commercial trade started any time soon. I doubt you will be able to ethically buy silphium in the next 10 years.

No, silphium was NOT overharvested to extinction because it was an effective contraceptive/abortifacient.

While it had many medicinal uses, it was likely primarily consumed as a culinary herb. Part of its overharvesting may also have been due to nearby sheep grazing on its leaves, as silphium-fed sheep commanded a higher price on the market.

In fact, Silphium may not have even died out due to over-harvesting at all; it may have been climate change or genetics that did it in.

Silphium is probably not a miracle cure today and its reputation may be overstated even for the time period, but it could still prove useful as a natural remedy and we could find compounds in its roots and learn interesting things that would be useful to modern medicine.

Anything else you want to know about silphium? Ask me!

[kp777]

Ancient 'miracle plant,' believed extinct, said rediscovered in Turkey | The Times of Israel

[justinempire]

An illustration depicting silphium’s (also known as silphion) heart-shaped seed pods.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/silphium

♥ The Ancient Origin of the Heart-Shaped Valentine ♥

This very rare coin is a silver hemidrachm struck in Cyrene (modern Libya) around 500 to 480 BC. Both sides of the coin show the now extinct* heart-shaped silphium fruit. The silphium plant, a large relative of the fennel plant, was abundant and a lucrative cash crop in ancient Cyrene, which is why it appears as the symbol of the city on its coinage.

Since it allegedly went extinct, silphium is a bit mysterious to us. We do know that it was greatly prized for its medicinal and culinary properties. It was  used as an herbal birth control method, thus forever associating the shape of its fruit with passionate love and thus, matters of the heart. Ancient writings also help tie silphium to sexuality and love. One such reference appears in Pausanias’ Description of Greece in a story of the Dioscuri staying at a house belonging to Phormion, a Spartan: “For it so happened that his maiden daughter was living in it. By the next day this maiden and all her girlish apparel had disappeared, and in the room were found images of the Dioscuri, a table, and silphium upon it.”

Pliny reported in his Natural History that the last known stalk of silphium found in Cyrene was given to the Emperor Nero “as a curiosity,” because it was nearly extinct by then.

*There is some debate about whether or not this plant is really extinct. You can read about that on the Silphium Wikipedia page.

https://archaicwonder.tumblr.com/post/110934369471/the-ancient-origin-of-the-heart-shaped-valentine

[piermanwalter]

Silphium REAL!!!!!!!!!

[ohwyrmies]

none of the articles I’ve seen on Silphion/Silphium has mentioned its use as an abortifacent, which is probably wise from a conservation standpoint, but also sad because it played a huge part in the ancient’s lives and family planning.

[whencyclopedia]

Theophrastus and Pliny the Elder on Silphium

The silphium plant of Cyrene, valued as a seasoning, aromatic, and for its medicinal properties, is referenced by several notable ancient writers, but two of the best-known descriptions come from Theophrastus (l. c. 371 to c. 287 BCE) and Pliny the Elder (l. 23-79 CE). By Pliny's time, silphium was extinct, most likely due to overharvesting and overgrazing.

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[faguscarolinensis]

Silphium perfoliatum / Cup Plant at the Sarah P. Duke Gardens at Duke University in Durham, NC

[briery]

Noted food historian Sally Grainger prepares an ancient Roman dish using Ferula drudeana during an experiment at Istanbul’s Nezahat Gökyiğit Botanical Garden. “Silphion is a fascinating plant, and I can understand why the Romans craved it,” she says.