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andypantsx3 · 2 years ago
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And perhaps because there isn’t a big financial driver, the culture of fan fiction is all about attribution—writers link and nod to other people who’ve influenced them, or helped them. “The idea is that no one should get paid for this, but everyone should know what's mine,” Rosenblatt says. 
From Wired's The Fanfic Sex Trope That Caught a Plundering AI Red-Handed
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theladyofbloodshed · 10 months ago
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There’s a really cool button if you don’t like a fic. It’s in the corner and looks like an X so you can close it down rather than accusing someone of using AI and putting down their writing! 👍
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ottopilot-wrote-this · 4 months ago
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Review: Sudowrite Story Bible
Before you get out the torches and pitchforks, I only went to check out Sudowrite, the AI writing platform, because of my credit card statement. My wife - who doesn't even write! - bought it to try it out for fanfics (disclaimer: she is dyslexic).
I haven't tried it before even though my stance on AI is pretty neutral (I don't hate it or love it, I think it's good for some applications but makes a lot of mistakes) because it's fairly expensive. The cheapest plan is $19.99/mo, and it bills in credits, which is actually a good thing, but it makes budgeting cost confusing.
The Tl;dr is it's actually pretty impressive, even before I looked at the community plugins. It depends if you can afford it, and how you plan to use it.
I've tried the writing feature and I still think AI isn't ready for prime time here, even with a premium model like ChatGPT 4o. As I've said before, people get big mad here that AI is going to be used to write novels as if a) they wouldn't be bad and repetitive without human intervention and b) like they wouldn't cost a fortune to make.
I maintain AI is good for shortcuts. People are fond of saying they want AI to do chores for them, not make art. But writers, are there not parts of writing that are chores? Instead of me reading about trees that grow in Massachusetts and how an antrhopologist would be an expert on demigods, why not just ask AI to give me some nuggets so I can move on with my life and you get some nice, enriching details?
So with that, I want to talk about (for me) the coolest feature of Sudowrite, which is the story bible set of tools.
There are a few components to the story bible: braindump, genre, style, synopsis, characters, worldbuilding, and outline. You work on them in that order, and after doing the first couple, some of the others can be generated.
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I started with Braindump: you just put whatever the story is about, up to 2000 words. I whipped up this premise:
"In the vein of Stephen King's "The Dark Half" and the erotic stylings of Tabico, this is the story of Ted Stryker, a mild-mannered freelance journalist living in the Pacific Northwest with his wife Elaine and his college student son, Joshua. Ted is working on his magnum opus, a children's book about unicorns and soft-serve ice cream, when he hits writer's block. Ted's world starts to unravel as his past comes to haunt him in the form of Otto, the pen name alter ego he used when writing dark mind control and corruption stories on Tumblr years before."
Each section tells you which other sections they affect. For example, Braindump affects Synopsis and Beats. For genre, you can put up to 40 words, I put: "Psychological horror, suspense, erotica, hypnosis, mind control, corruption, dark humor, supernatural"
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Style is interesting, you can prompt a style, but it also lets you upload a 2000 word sample of your own writing to match style. Here's what it said about Coven, Part V:
**Analysis of Writing Style** **Tone and Mood:** The tone is dark, intense, and foreboding, creating a sense of urgency and danger. The mood oscillates between tension and arousal, with an underlying feeling of betrayal and impending doom. The emotional atmosphere is charged with anger, lust, and a sense of loss of control. **POV:** The piece is written in the third-person limited point of view, primarily focusing on Lilith's internal thoughts and feelings. The narrative shifts to a more omniscient perspective at times, particularly when describing the actions and emotions of other characters, such as Helen and the coven. **Vocabulary and Word Choice:** The vocabulary is rich and evocative, with a mix of formal and informal language. The author employs strong, visceral imagery and figurative language, particularly in descriptions of power dynamics and physical sensations. Words like "sanguine," "impaled," and "exquisite" contribute to the dark and erotic tone. **Sentence Structure:** The sentence structure varies, with a mix of complex and compound sentences that build tension. Short, punchy sentences are used for emphasis during moments of high emotion, while longer, descriptive sentences create a more immersive experience. The use of fragments adds to the urgency and emotional weight of certain passages. **Pacing and Rhythm:** The pacing is dynamic, alternating between fast-paced dialogue and slower, more introspective moments. The rhythm builds during climactic scenes, with shorter sentences creating a sense of urgency, while longer passages allow for deeper exploration of characters' emotions and motivations. **Dialogue:** The dialogue is sharp and impactful, reflecting the characters' personalities and emotional states. Lilith's speech is filled with disdain and anger, while Helen's dialogue is manipulative and seductive. The use of direct address and confrontational language enhances the tension between characters. **Descriptive Style:** The author employs vivid sensory imagery to create a strong sense of place and emotion. Descriptions are detailed and often graphic, particularly in the portrayal of physical sensations and the supernatural elements. The use of metaphor and simile enhances the emotional depth of the narrative. **Themes and Motifs:** Recurring themes include power, betrayal, and the struggle between control and submission. The motif of darkness and the supernatural is prevalent, with references to demonic forces and the coven's rituals. The exploration of desire and the consequences of giving in to one's darker impulses is central to the narrative. **Cultural and Historical Context:** The piece appears to draw on contemporary themes of empowerment and the exploration of sexuality, set against a backdrop of witchcraft and the occult. The characters' struggles with identity and power dynamics reflect broader societal issues, particularly regarding gender and autonomy. **Tense:** The narrative is primarily written in the past tense, which allows for a reflective quality while maintaining immediacy in the unfolding events. The use of past tense also contributes to the sense of inevitability in the characters' fates.
You're allowed to edit this before the next step, which condenses it into 40 words. "The style is dark and immersive, using rich vocabulary and vivid imagery. It employs a third-person limited POV in present tense, with dynamic pacing and sharp dialogue, exploring themes of power, betrayal, and female empowerment within dark fantasy."
You have the choice to generate items for the remaining sections: Synopsis, Characters, Worldbuilding, and Outline. I generated the Synopsis and you get an expanded version of the braindump. At each step, you can edit the output to feed the next section:
Ted Stryker was a mild-mannered freelance journalist living a quiet life in the lush forests of the Pacific Northwest with his wife Elaine and teenage son Joshua. To the outside world, he was the picture of domestic bliss and creative inspiration, working tirelessly on his soon-to-be masterpiece - a whimsical children's book celebrating the joys of unicorns and soft-serve ice cream. But beneath the surface, darkness stirred. Ted was haunted by his past indiscretions, a dark secret that threatened to unravel the carefully constructed facade of his idyllic life. Years ago, under the anonymous pen name "Otto," Ted had indulged in writing lurid tales of mind control, corruption, and psychological horror on the underbelly of the internet. What had started as a harmless creative outlet soon became an obsession, a twisted desire to push the boundaries of decency and revel in the depravity of human nature. As Ted struggled with writer's block on his children's book, the shadow of Otto began to loom larger. Strange occurrences plagued the Stryker household—misplaced objects, unexplained noises, and a pervasive sense of dread that seemed to emanate from the recesses of Ted's mind. It was as if Otto, the sinister alter ego, was clawing his way back into existence, determined to corrupt the idyllic world Ted had constructed. The descent into madness accelerated when Elaine discovered Ted's sordid online writings, the graphic depictions of mind control and psychological manipulation a shocking betrayal of the man she thought she knew. Confronted with the truth, Elaine found herself seduced by the darkness, allowing Otto to crush her will and transform her into a seductive blank bimbo dollie. As Ted spiraled deeper into Otto's dark embrace, he became increasingly unrecognizable, the lines between his identity and Otto's malevolent influence irreversibly blurred. Joshua, now trapped in a waking nightmare as he witnessed his parents' descent into depravity, realized he needed to escape before it was too late. With his best friend Kenzie—who harbored an unrequited crush on him—he plotted their departure from the increasingly twisted town that had become a prison of madness. In a climactic showdown that blurred the boundaries of sanity, Ted was forced to confront the demons of his past and the monstrous entity that Otto had become. As he embraced the darkest recesses of his psyche, he found himself ensnared in a web of his own creation, a prisoner of his most depraved impulses. As Joshua and Kenzie made their desperate bid for freedom, they left behind a shattered family forever altered by the harrowing ordeal. Ted's children's book, once a symbol of innocence and whimsy, now stood as a twisted monument to the fragility of the human mind and the dangerous power of our darkest urges—an eerie reminder of what had been lost in their descent into darkness.
My favorite part of this is referring to Tumblr as the "underbelly of the Internet" like it's the darkest of the dark web. Perfect characterization. If you want you can provide input and hit Rewrite Synopsis and it will refine based on your feedback. Like I decided at this point it was wise to age up the son (I was thinking about The Shining but forgot King also wrote IT, in which kids do, uh, some adult activities) and give him a bestie/love interest.
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I generated characters. Honestly, I could use the AI write now because I'm getting tired of typing this review. It will give each character Personality, Background, Physical Description, and Dialogue Style sections, in case you want your character to talk like Sling Blade. Additional traits can be added, and at this point it's likely the AI will make up some characters you didn't tell it to and possibly duplicate one, so give this section a critical eye.
I kind of rushed through Worldbuilding but in some cases it's the most useful section for me, as I find this type of legwork tedious when I write. There are items here for Setting, Organization, Lore, Key Event, Clue, Magic System, Item, Technology, Government, Economy, Culture, Religion, and Custom.
Finally, there is the outline. You can choose from a few generasted templates, depending on the type of story. I have read Story Circle is best for shorter works, since I don't know if there is enough here to write a novel(!). True to form, it gave me 4 acts with 2 chapters each.
Like with Synopsis, there is a textbox here to rewrite the outline. I gave it the following feedback:
Starting in Act 3, have Ted and Elaine attempt to corrupt Kenzie. Rewrite Chapter 8 so that Ted dies in the conflict, sacrificing himself to take Otto with him. The story ends with Josh and Kenzie leaving Bend, but Kenzie is reading Otto's stories on Tumblr, setting a downbeat ominous ending.
It did what I asked, having Ted and Elaine approach Kenzie as early as Chapter Five, and ending with Kenzie reading Otto's smut (at least someone is).
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You can then start a document from each chapter, and it will link them back to the outline. You can write or generate story beats, and then generate prose from those beats. If you use the default model (which is GPT 4 Turbo) it's a fortune, I switched it to Mistral 7B Instruct because it can still do spicy and I'm cheap (it's like 3% of 4 Turbo cost).
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The result is just okay, but this is the part where you should be actually writing something if you haven't already. From here you can use the common features: ask it to continue on from where you are, rewrite something you already wrote, describe with sensory details, or brainstorm through a plot hole.
As demonstrated above, the cost depends on how much data you send to the AI, and which model you use. That sucks if you just want to know how much it costs. But it is nice because you have access to all the models, and sometimes, you really want a more creative model to reword something for you. In other products that are tiered, that's not always an option - you get unmetered access but only to certain models.
Anyway, if you made it this far, you deserve a cookie. I haven't fully decided if I want to get this - I already did a lot of the legwork on my WIP - but it might help me with worldbuilding and dialogue, and help bump up my output. But there's definitely utility here, even if not value.
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lacavernablog · 9 months ago
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Superar el bloqueo del escritor con IA
Si eres escéptico de los resultados de algunas aplicaciones de escritura que emplean IA, Sudowrite te hará cambiar de opinión en definitiva. La escritora Amanda Caswell relata su propia experiencia utilizando esta herramienta. "Tu escritura tiene una narrativa similar a la humana impresionante".
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Aquí la nota:
Cuando escuché por primera vez sobre Sudowrite, estaba intrigada pero escéptica. La plataforma de escritura de IA utiliza más de dos docenas de modelos de IA, incluidos GPT-3.5, GPT-4, Claude 2 de Anthropic, múltiples modelos abiertos y modelos de transformadores creados por OpenAI.
¿El resultado? Después de sumergirme, puedo decir con confianza que ha superado mis expectativas en muchos aspectos.
Al abrir Sudowrite, me recibió una interfaz limpia e intuitiva, lo que significaba que no tenía que pasar horas averiguando cómo usarlo. Después de ver un video rápido, en cuestión de minutos, estaba listo para explorar sus tres modos principales: Describir, Lluvia de ideas y Reescribir.
Comenzar un nuevo proyecto en Sudowrite es sencillo. Recomiendo habilitar la función Biblia de la historia, donde puede ingresar todos los detalles sobre su novela, incluido el esquema, la sinopsis y los personajes.
Una de mis características favoritas es el estilo. Simplemente ingrese un párrafo de muestra y la IA analizará y coincidirá con su estilo de escritura. Incluí un párrafo de mi propia escritura e incluso agregué que quería una estructura similar a la de Beverly Cleary. Sorpresa: ¡Sudowrite cumplido!
Le di un concepto básico, y Sudowrite me presentó una plétora de direcciones para llevar mi historia, que luego convertí en ritmos para cada capítulo.
Fue como tener una sesión de lluvia de ideas con un amigo muy imaginativo que nunca se queda sin ideas.
Finalmente, el modo de reescritura me ayudó a refinar mis borradores. Sugería frases y estructuras de oraciones alternativas, lo que hizo que mi escritura fluyera mejor y leyera con mayor fluidez. Este modo es perfecto para esos toques finales antes de pulsar "publicar" o enviar un manuscrito.
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creativitycache · 1 year ago
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Does anyone know if Sudowrite is behind those horrible bot comments playing AO3 accusing authors of using Sudowrite to make their fics?
Has that been confirmed? Did the bots drop other names?
Because someone out there is really helping a LOT of users learn about how Sudowrite scraped all AO3 up until 2019 to make its plagiarized database.
Either this is a marketing stunt gone wrong or a very horrible double ploy. Either way Sudowrite should take a swan dive.
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prachibisht16 · 1 year ago
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grimwood-notice-board · 2 years ago
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AI AS A WRITER'S TOOL
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Check out the site here
The following is my take on AI writing, and the content of this video on Sudowrite.
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By Eldon Macwood, grimdark/cyberpunk author.
For those who don't understand AI writing, using a platform like Sudowrite isn't all point and click. There's still a lot of work, just different work. For some, this will really help them, as the AI becomes a jr writer, not THE writer. Note the difference.
I still prefer to write my own stories, but I do dig cool tools that can help me out. I have used name generators to help me out. I have picked brains to help me out (not literally, unless AI can help with that, kidding, maybe).
I have played around with different styles to see how a story might work. I have gotten ideas from movies/series, from shit that happens to ppl, etc. I also use story prompt cards that doubles as a game to flesh out story ideas, which right now you can check out the Lore Master's Deck backerkit! Not AI, but the company is called, The Story Engine, it's fucking fantastic!
Point is, I still use the world around me to help write stories. AI is just another tool. There will be idiots who abuse it, fuck those idiots. And fuck anyone who overloads story submissions with AI stories when the rules clearly state not to.
I support Human authors, and funny thing, many who use Sudowrite are actual writers. Hence why this tool helps them so much, because they know enough actual skills to get the most out of the tool. I know it's the trend to hate AI, and hate anyone who uses it, but as a person who hates trends, and hates people looking for fights, I do hope to shed thought on this topic that challenges that tend. I am a natural author. I have been writing off and on for over ten years, had some published. I have shared pages with some great names.
I will continue to write my stories. I will also use the tools available to help me best tell the story. I won't use it to this extreme, as seen in the video above, but I do dig how Elizabeth West really puts a lot of work and thought into her writing.
And like with any book, it all depends on the writer. If it sucks, review it, rate it, and explain the problems. Like with every book. Let potential readers know if the book wasn't well written/edited. This is the thing with self-published books, and everyone of us don't gatekeep self-published authors (I'm assuming reasonable Humans are reading this, ergo, they're not gatekeeping tash heaps). But we still know there are a lot of idiots out there who abuse the ability to self-publish. Be we writers aren't those idiots, are we? We're better than that. No different than with a pro writer who uses AI as a tool.
I will again stress this, it's very different to let the AI do all of the work, which yes, there are writers out there who will do that. Sure, they can if they wish, and I hope if they do, they will make sure the story is still edited well, and give a warning that it is.
I'm not against that if they are upfront. My issue would be, if I see a really interesting book. I decide to buy it. I read it, and I hate it bc it looks like something a toddler would write. THEN, I find out it was all AI written. I'd feel like they didn't even try. I'd feel like they just plugged in some words, let a machine crank out 80k words, and called it book, and then released it. A story is a Hell of a lot more than that.
Sure, in a year, three years, ten years, at some point we will see an AI app that can write any story, make it perfect, and people will indeed use it. They will be able to crank stories just as good as our favorite authors, and release those books as soon as a day apart. Imagine AI stories just as good as a GRRM novel, only without the 10+ year wait in between books. Ten days later, BOOM, sequel!
That is scary. Especially since I adore writing. And those of us who adore it, we will choke on the dust of AI because we won't be able to keep up with the AI writers. BUT, while this is a coming thing to expect, there will be readers who will want to read our books. And this doesn't mean we can't use AI as a tool.
Because if we use it as a tool, and not to do all the writing for us, while we might be a little slower than the complete AI generated stories, we won't be near as slow as those who don't use the tools.
It's up to us all. It's fine to hate the abusers. I fucking hate every kind of abuser. Well, I abuse caffeine, and I don't hate myself, so I do have a few loopholes, but still. Just don't go hating on everyone who uses AI. Because for one, using AI as a tool, doesn't make the author less of a writer. Just like they're not thieves. The topic of AI in the creative world is a lot more complex than what the AI haters think. Hence why I stand by the artists and writers who use AI as a tool. Their voice counts just as much as the haters, and they're way more likable.
If you're still a hater, and you look down on me, I will assume you're no different than a self-publish hater. You might as well be. I will also assume you don't bother to look outside of your opinion, which is sad. For those of you more open minded, and at the very least, curious how this all works, here's the site! I like the Story Engine (not the prompt cards I mentioned earlier) plugin they use. It's a sweet tool, and there are various ways you can use it.
Love me, hate me, whatever, just remember, I never, ever, support abusing AI. I don't support tools replacing Humans, I support tools being used to help Humans. Note the difference.
I wish you farewell, and may your wordsauce be plentiful! Except for the haters. I wish a GRRM level of writer's block on them, because I'm a cruel fucker. lol.
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tinyravenfeathers · 2 months ago
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Pass it on.
How To Lock All of Your Fics At Once On Ao3
Someone has probably already done this but
For anyone looking to lock their works for only registered users over on Ao3 in light of the sudowrites scraping thing here is how you can lock all of your fics at once.
Log into Ao3 and go to your Profile, Works or Dashboard
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At the top under you’re user name there are four buttons pick Edit Works
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Second row of buttons on the right chose All and then hit Edit
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Scroll down past all of your works and then keeps scrolling until you find Visibility  change it to Only Show to Registered User
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(If a fic is over the tag limit you have to edit those down to make edit to the work.)
Hit Update All Works at the very bottom and you are done all of you fics should now have a little blue lock next to your user name on each fic.
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bloseroseone · 5 months ago
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Suowrite Review: Pros, Cons, Pricing and More
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Sudowrite Sudowrite has emerged as a standout alternative for writers seeking to increase creativity and productivity in an ever-changing ecosystem of writing tools. Whether you’re creating novels, short tales, or even brainstorming blog ideas, this AI-powered application promises to change your writing experience. But is it worth the hype? Let’s get into the details.
What is Sudowrite?
Sudowrite was created by a group of writers and technologists who wanted to bridge the divide between technology and creative writing. The application uses powerful AI to help authors create intriguing narratives.
Key Features of Sudowrite
Story Suggestions: Generate plot twists and story arcs in seconds.
Descriptive Tools: Find the perfect word or phrase with AI-powered suggestions.
Brainstorming Capabilities: Overcome writer’s block by exploring new ideas with ease.
How Does Sudowrite Work?
User-Friendly Interface
Sudowrite has a simple, intuitive interface that allows authors to focus on creation rather than mastering complex tools. The interface is simple, making it easy for both beginners and expert users to access its capabilities. Sudowrite’s clearly defined tools for brainstorming, editing, and rewriting create a smooth workflow. The platform’s user-friendly design reduces distractions, allowing authors to focus on their work and achieve maximum productivity. This simplicity is a major reason why many people select Sudowrite for their writing requirements....Continue reading
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postmoderntongues · 6 months ago
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We need to start relentlessly downvoting, mocking, and bullying "authors" who use AI to write
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digitalsolution123 · 8 months ago
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AI Story Writer: A Revolution in Storytelling
In a world where technology evolves at an incredible pace, artificial intelligence (AI) is now entering spaces once thought to be exclusive to human creativity. One of the most exciting developments is the rise of AI story writers—software programs that can craft stories with the same magic and imagination as human writers. This might sound like something from a science fiction novel, but AI story writing is real, and it’s changing how we think about creativity, storytelling, and the future of literature.
What Is an AI Story Writer?
An AI story writer is an advanced program that uses machine learning algorithms to create stories. These programs are trained on vast amounts of text, learning patterns, language structures, character development, and narrative arcs. Based on this training, the AI can generate stories in various genres, including romance, science fiction, fantasy, mystery, and even historical fiction.
At its core, an AI story writer works by predicting what comes next in a sequence of words. It starts with a prompt or a few sentences provided by a user and then builds on that, adding dialogue, setting details, and plot twists to form a full narrative. This technology has rapidly improved in recent years, producing stories that feel surprisingly human.
How Does AI Write Stories?
AI doesn’t have feelings, memories, or experiences like humans, but it uses complex algorithms to mimic these aspects in writing. Here’s how it typically works:
Training on Massive Datasets: AI models are trained on millions of books, articles, and other written materials. This helps them learn grammar, sentence structure, tone, and style.
Understanding Context: The AI breaks down the input (the prompt or starting point) and understands what type of story is being requested. For example, if the user provides a prompt about a hero embarking on a journey, the AI will recognize it as the start of an adventure story.
Generating Text: Once the AI understands the context, it starts generating text. It predicts the next words based on the input and continues this process, much like how a human writer might draft a story. However, the AI’s generation is guided by probabilities—choosing words and sentences that best fit the pattern of the story type it’s trained on.
Refining the Story: Many AI tools allow for revision and editing, meaning the user can guide the AI by providing feedback, making changes, or adjusting the tone and direction of the story. This creates a collaborative process between the AI and the human writer.
Benefits of AI Story Writers
The emergence of AI story writer brings many exciting possibilities to the world of writing:
Breaking Writer’s Block: For authors struggling to get words on the page, AI can offer a helpful boost. By generating ideas, dialogue, or entire scenes, it can spark inspiration and help writers overcome creative blocks.
Instant Content Creation: AI can generate stories much faster than humans, making it useful for producing content quickly. Whether for short stories, blogs, or entertainment scripts, AI provides a solution for those needing fast turnaround times.
Personalized Stories: AI can create stories tailored to specific preferences. If a reader wants a mystery set in a futuristic world with a strong female lead, the AI can generate a unique story that fits those exact parameters. This level of customization is difficult to achieve with traditional writing.
Creative Experimentation: Since AI can work outside traditional narrative boundaries, it often produces unexpected and innovative storylines. This helps human writers explore new ideas, blending their creativity with AI’s algorithmic approach to storytelling.
Challenges and Limitations
Despite its potential, AI story writing isn’t without its challenges:
Lack of True Emotion: AI doesn’t have lived experiences, so its stories might lack the emotional depth that comes from human understanding. While it can mimic emotions and empathy, it doesn’t feel these things, which can sometimes make its stories feel artificial or flat.
Over-Reliance on Data: Since AI is trained on existing texts, it may repeat patterns or clichés found in those texts. This can lead to less originality and creativity compared to human writers who bring fresh perspectives and experiences.
Ethical Concerns: As AI becomes more involved in creative industries, there are concerns about intellectual property, authorship, and the potential impact on jobs. Will AI replace human writers, or will it simply become another tool in the creative toolkit?
Need for Human Oversight: While AI can generate impressive stories, it often requires human oversight to polish the final product. AI can create coherent narratives, but a human touch is usually needed to refine characters, add emotional depth, and ensure the story resonates with readers.
The Future of AI in Storytelling
The future of AI story writers is full of possibilities. As the technology improves, AI could collaborate with human writers on more complex and emotionally nuanced stories. It could become a partner in creative brainstorming sessions, helping writers push the boundaries of their imagination.
In education, AI could help students develop their writing skills by providing instant feedback and suggestions. In entertainment, AI could be used to generate interactive stories, allowing readers to choose their own paths, with the AI crafting unique narratives based on their decisions.
However, it’s unlikely that AI will fully replace human writers. Storytelling is deeply rooted in human experience, and while AI can mimic creativity, it doesn’t understand the world like we do. The most powerful stories are those that reflect human emotions, struggles, and triumphs—something AI can simulate but not truly comprehend.
Conclusion
AI story writers are an exciting innovation, offering new ways to create and experience stories. They are powerful tools that can assist writers, inspire creativity, and produce unique narratives. However, the heart of storytelling remains human. As we embrace AI in the creative process, it’s clear that technology will enhance our storytelling capabilities, but it’s the human touch that will keep stories alive and meaningful.
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worrywrite · 2 years ago
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Okay, I think it's important we address some of this. Because 1) nothing wrong with fanfic. It's not lesser writing just because it can't be for money. 2) it's not actual fanfic. Pride & Prejudice (the original novel) is public domain, and so doesn't have any copyright protection. The characters and story of the original novel can be used, with some caveats that I don't have the time to double check, pretty much however anyone wants.
3) technically, by definition of the terms and service you agree to when you use OpenAI software, the "author" of any text is the user but the owner of that text is OpenAI (the company) unless you have paid to use a special service that has adapted the GPT model to a specific piece of software like Sudowrite. So, unless the legal framework around OpenAI and chatbot driven writing has changed, she does (or at the very least is presumed to) actually have the legal ownership of the text produced and can consider herself to be the author in the same way that you can pay a ghostwriter to write a text and that you outline and are considered the author of.
4) Best selling isn't actually in quotations as far as truthfulness here. I checked her Amazon author page, and at one point at least one of her works was on the "best sellers" list on Amazon KDP for the "historical" category. It is far from the achievement one might expect, but again, not false. And she's been writing these sorts of books for about 10 years now, she's bound to have had at least some success at some point in her career.
The real problem here is the legal framework around using chatbots to produce a substantial amount of the framework of the fiction being sold. See, unlike hiring a ghostwriter (who will be beholden to and require the structural framework of the text from the "author"), an AI does the writing and the narrative development while the "author" only keeps the program in line when it goes a little off the rails. It is disingenuous, but it does still fall under that ghostwriting exception. Secondly, and the thing I really personally think affects the writing space more than anything else, is the quality of the work. AI is about as reliable as a room full of chimps and typewriters, but it just moves at about 1000x speed as the chimps. It still produces really low quality and inconsistent writing (believe me I have been testing it for months now). And if West is doing the entire writing process as fast as she claims then she is putting out some truly weak prose. And weak prose lowers the bar for writing quality overall and interrupts the pay standards for writers.
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“Author of 25+ best-selling Pride & Prejudice variations”
Yeah, no.
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jolenes-book-journey · 1 year ago
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AI Assistant or Authorial Apocalypse? The Future of Fiction is a Human-Machine Dance
Forget robots churning out bestsellers – the truth about AI in fiction writing is far more nuanced. While AI can’t replace the human touch that breathes life into characters, it’s emerging as a powerful tool for brainstorming, research, and even co-writing alongside human authors. Science fiction has long depicted a future where robots write our novels and compose our symphonies. But is AI truly…
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starfall-spirit · 2 years ago
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I stg if sudowrite doesn't get off my instagram
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metataxy · 2 years ago
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Discovered the #KnotInMyName collection on AO3.  I have no idea if writing more pornographic fanfiction will have any appreciable effect on Sudowrite or other AI, but gods, I applaud these folks for trying :D
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grimwood-notice-board · 2 years ago
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OUTLINES! WTF DO I WRITE???
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By Eldon Macwood
I've seen several authors over the years talk about outlining being a problem for them. To fair, you can totally pants an entire book, edit the holy fuck out of it, and potentially make a bestseller. Lee Child, Stephen King, and many others have done just that. But if you're like me, and want to build your story, then there's hope for that.
This post isn't for the pantser. Maybe a hybrid who's a plotsters, and definitely for the plotters.
The thing about outlines, yeah, there are a few different templates out there, and you don't have to follow them them to the T. You can be as general as you want. Have as much, or as little as you want. YOu can just write story beats, which are nothing more than small guideposts on the chapter, to an outline, and then create your beats from that. Which is what I like to do.
There are two ways to write them: 1, the old fashion way, and it's totally cool if that's your way. As in, you do all the work. 2, use AI. Now, now, calm down. Breath. I know, the evil AI, blah blah blah. But hear me out, you don't have to use AI for everything. I know, this isn't something that the AI-phobes would tell ya, but it's true. You can use Claude or Chat GPT for free, and create outlines and story beats.
Even if you never use AI for anything else, using it just for outlining, and beats creation, you can 10X your writing output.
Regardless if you wish to join me in using AI as a tool, there are templates I will share with you. If you just want to write it all yourself, here are some sources (I can help you if you wish to use AI).
TAKE OFF YOUR PANTS! is a book I started out with, and was a template I used for a very long time.
Here's the template for Derek Murphy's outline template, which is one of my favorites. This post shows how to use it with AI, but you don't have to use AI to make it work. As Derek talked about this template four years ago, and can be found here on YouTube!
For doing just beats (this works from your braindump or an outline you already wrote) you take the basic events from a chapter, and you use them go off of. Back in the day, I'd usually have just a few beats. Now I tend to use the Sudowrite system which works with non-AI writing as well, which is a 12 beat system. Now you can adjust that however you like. And I prefer to have my beats organized to scenes within a chapter. Use your beats to gage how many scenes you will have.
Beats are usually at least one sentence per beat, but having a few sentences might work better for you. Depends on you, and your story. You can be as general, or as specific for each beat as you wish.
Is this a lot to think about? Maybe. Again, while it's still a system to learn, AI does in fact make it easier. I have my own system, and I use for free Chat GPT and Claude. I use a prompt I learned about in the Sudo community, the person who created it did so for a Notion template. I use it in Chat GPT which gives me really good chapter summaries of chapter I've already written. I use those with the outline chapter to create the next chapter beats. The only I don't do this for would be the first chapter. But you can still write instructions for that set of beats.
Everything here that I've talked about, you could sit down and work out to system for yourself. Be it non-AI, or with AI. Either way. At some point, I will probably show more on outlining, I'd like to put together a cheap course on it. Why cheap? Because I want to help, and i need money, and I know not many people out there can afford much. So cheap is my compromise. Still not sure if I will have time to put it together, but if I do, I will make it as easy as possible, and update it as AI changes.
This is a topic I love talking about. I have no issue with helping for free when I have time to do so, a course would just be a go-to tutorial on the subject that the consumer can use at any time.
But yea, Libbie's book, TAKE OFF YOUR PANTS! and Derek's outline template are my two main suggestions. And my top one, using AI with these templates. There's also another template I've learned from the AI community which goes up to 37 chapters.
And really, the more you work with this topic, the more you will get to the point of customizing your own template style. You might come up with more than one, depending on what you're writing.
I wish you the best in writing. If you need some help with the AI side of things, let me know, and I will give you a hand.
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