You gotta love Ancient Greek philosophy
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Okay let’s settle this once and for all
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No, obviously the soul of each is longing for something else which it cannot put into normal words but keeps trying to express in oracles and riddles.
Plato, from ‘Symposium’, quoted in ‘Eros the Bittersweet: An Essay’ by Anne Carson
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Lucanian oinochoe depicting a symposium
* Basilicata
* 380-360 BCE
* Brooklyn-Budapest Painter
* British Museum
London, July 2022
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just reinstalled Tumblr after months of silence because I need to talk about the ending of the Symposium by Plato.
Like, I often struggle with reading because I want to read classical literature but at the same time school shoving it down my throat for ages makes it hard to read because I just assume it will be boring.
So, as a friendly reminder, reading is not boring.
How does this correlate to the end of Symposium?
It ends with Alcibiades all prettied up and drunk as a horse barging into an evening gathering of philosophers (who are all gay for each other, btw) and insulting Socrates looks, to then say he loves him and he's upset because he wanted to seduce him but he ended up being seduced. Him and Socrates had slept together prior to that but not as in had sex apparently, and Socrates just didn't like him that way.
This book, which is all about philosophers giving their educated and complex (at least for the time) opinions on Eros and the concept of love, ends with a drunk motherfucker desperately wanting to get dicked down by a guy he finds unattractive, just because he is the biggest fucking nerd.
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when i grow up i want to be like alkibiades, to be (in ilja leonard pfeijffer's words) 1. extravagant 2. genius 3. sensational 4. androgynous 5. bisexual 6. controversial
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Alcibiades going " uh yeah and then we shared a tent and then we ... uhh no i shan't say" like a little school girl probably kicking his feet and blushing while the rest of the group probably giggled like little girls at a sleepover and the fucking author had the guts to go " yeah he didnt continue narrating because no man who didnt trully expirience loving socrates first hand deserved to know , no one deserved to share those memories with them besides themselves " like sir . Sir calm down . Sir
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Art & Project in Tokyo, [exhibition: July 29 – August 4, 1974] [symposium: August 3, 1974 – '60->'70 Has Art Changed?'], Organized by Yusuke Nakahara and Yutaka Matsuzawa, Muramatsu Gallery, Tokyo, 1974
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"The saying of Euripides, that "beauty's autumn, too, is beautiful," is not always true. But it was certainly the case with Alcibiades, as with few besides, because of his excellent natural parts."
From Plutarch's The Life of Alcibiades
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i have NO idea if those two actually look like obiwan and ani but i tried my hardest! i absolutely ADORE this fic by @intermundia and i hope my cover does it justice. if you’re an obikin shipper i highly suggest this fic, it’s incredible!!
the pose is pulled directly from this pottery btw!! (literally the moment i saw it, i knew i had to use it).
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this compilation of queer boys quoting/making a reference to Plato’s Symposium in books is my contribution to society
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Symposium by Anselm Feuerbach
A moment from Plato's Symposium, when the drunken Alcibiades and revelers enter the house of the poet Agathon. Socrates, near the wall at right-centre, turns his back on the scene, and bows his head.
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