#alastor theory

[nornpai]

Hazbin Hotel Spoilers

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I see a ton of people going on about how we might see Alastor frown for the first time when he's like genuinely upset or something. But has anyone ever thought about the fact he literally has his mouth sown into a permanent smile so he actually can't frown at all??

In the finale he goes into his radio station and is genuinely distressed over the fact someone has power over him. Hes injured and alone in his radio station, he has no reason to keep up a facade for anyone and yet he still has that smile on his face

In this frame you can see the thread connecting his mouth. Firstly, since it isn't visible while he isn't using his demonic powers it might be related to the own deal he made with whoever he sold his own soul to, it might be a way to silence him or keep him from using his full powers?

Idk I'm just guessing lmao

[greenandsorrow]

Okay, so basically Alastor is our deer boi.

He has his fluffy ears, his antlers, he has hooves and it's almost canon that he has a smoll deer tail.

DEER HAVE THE PRETTIEST LASHES...

Just hear me out. Those bigass red eyes have... lashes.

Black, luscious eye-lashes. He has doe eyes.

Or they're red to match his hair colour.🫠

Rosie would most definitely comment on his pretty LASHES.😭😭😭

[turtleofthehollow]

The image of Alastor's smile being bound by stitches gave me a theory about how his arc will conclude if he's on the path to redemption.

My theory starts with the idea of the stitches being a byproduct of whatever deal he made, and that he can't talk about the deal to anyone, meaning even if he wanted help with his deal, he couldn't say a word about it

It's such a horrific reality to live, and I can only think about how poetic it is for Alastor to have his free will so thoroughly revoked like that

I mean, in an earlier episode we saw how Alastor exercises control over the souls he owns (like Husk's) so it seems an appropriate punishment for him to be subjected to the same treatment

And that's where my theory kind of begins

This whole situation with his deal puts him in the position to start developing empathy by making him experience what he puts other people through

He gets to experience the same kind of helplessness he subjects others to, and it may even lead to him wanting to make amends with those he wrongs

Which could be a fun way to develop his dynamics with Husk. I mean, what better way for Alastor to start earning his redemption than by apologizing to Husk and freeing his soul?

[aryesdanger24]

Hot take: Alastor doesn't like being the weakest in a room and especially wants to be noticed (he is the center of attention). We can see it when Carmille addresses him at the table for his absence and immediately brushes him off. We see him prickling at the comment but he let's it be since he knows them well and recognizes they still know him enough to recognize his absence.

So, Alastor notices immediately how much everyone puts into seeing Lucifer (we see how he observes when he walks in the room), and I bet there is some envy at the attention. Especially when he doesn't immediately notice Alastor and heads for his daughter.

Then Lucifer leaves Charlie to greet the things not even addressed in the show yet like Kiki and the Razzle Dazzle boys. Instantly putting him below everyone on the list in terms of meeting him.

So, he is thoroughly offended and brings attention back to himself by discussing the wall and instantly Lucifer is confused why his daughter didn't answer and then proceeded to belittle Alastor....which uh clearly leads to a FUCK you comment.

It is the result of not only being ignored and belittled, but also that Lucifer is physically and mentally not as focused on his appearance which I feel might play some part Alastor's jealousy. Lucifer doesn't have to constantly defend himself from people. No one underestimates Lucifer so Alastor takes it upon himself to be his number 1 hater. He revels in his own ability to use Lucifer's daughter as a shield and even a cover to create more distress in the other.

A show that is directly pointed at Lucifer and using Charlie's trust in him to his advantage, he shields and pisses off Lucifer in the process by acting fatherly. That way Lucifer cannot harm him unless he wants Charlie to hate him, which also doubles as a way to be better than Lucifer.

After all, Alastor loves to prey upon weakness and be right about it.

I am not saying that Alastor is not potentially affected by someone (Lillith perhaps?) Which leads him to act this way. Also I am not sure why Alastor let Lucifer finish his father daughter song with Charlie if he aimed to strike issue between them. I think the dad off duet might've been in some way showing Lucifer how absent he was as a father to motivate him to be better.

Regardless of motive, I stick to my theory of Alastor wanting attention which why he has his radio show despite not even killing. He is searching for people to notice him and his absence. Much like when a kid goes on vacations and comes back hoping people ask where they have been.

Update: I have since watched the finale of Hazbin

My view has not changed other than solidifying this envious narcissistic Alastor theory.

The envious part of his so easily seen at the end of the finale as he sang to himself. He desperately wants to be free and clearly has some power being held away by the one who owns him....which only plays into this envy he has towards others.

Moreover, it makes all his little jabs at his character all the more intriguing. He knows his power has been strapped away to some degree but like he tells Charlie "A smile can hide many things and keep you in control no matter what."

That is Alastor's game.

He offered true advise for her for 2 reasons:

1. To avoid extermination since he himself has been limited in power.

2. To reward her for being so easy to manipulate (giving candy to a good kid)

It shows to viewers that Alastor is confident enough to give his behavior away to Charlie. Despite her position she always gave him the respect and fear he craved while being easier to manipulate than most.

Being around her makes him feel powerful and even the hotel does...which is another reason why I believe he is so touchy about being reminded of his deal. This place is clearly a hunting ground that he doesnt want Husk ruining since he is bound here. He is attached to either a main cast member (Charlie being the more obvious choice) or the hotel itself but it's much more likely a cast member.

All and all, that fact makes all the power positioning and false threats and pompous attitude a front to avoid people sensing weakness, but I really believe Alastor craves to be noticed since he gets so many comments about radio being dead and such. He is finding relevancy despite the potential dangers of someone actually calling his bluff. It shows his narcisstic attitude well, that he truly believes he can either talk or bluff his way out of any situation with a dangerous smile.

Also I live for Lucifer and Alastor's rivalry and hatred toward eachother, I hope season 2 has more of their banter.

[themoonitselff]

Alastor as a bf <3

I think that Alastor as a boyfriend would not be like a pink fantasy. He would search for a weak person, someone as powerful as him but with a soft mind, just for him to break and possess, for him to care and love, for his to own. In a relationship, he would not be a PDA fan, but you would always wear his gifts as a way to express your love to him, like necklaces and hats.

Yeah, he likes the idea of being loved by someone, worshipped by someone and becomes crazy at the thought that you would do anything for him, it raises up his ego, it makes him feel that he's a god and you're his believer. His favorite treasure.

He's definitely Ultraviolence—Lana Del Rey. At first, it starts beautiful, he hunts you from far away, studies your likes, dislikes, your routine, your whole life, and then he attacks, he makes you feel like you're the only one in the world that he would settle for (and it's true), but here comes the problems.

You discover how he is actually, you realize that he's not just polite, handsome, divine, he can be rough, selfish, maniac and obsessive, he likes you as a toy, as something that has no voice or opinion, he knows what you're capable for, he knows your powers, so he rathers having you as his partner than his enemy. Because god, he's so fucking smart he knows what's the best for him.

Even if you don't agree, he is in love with you, but he doesn't know how to show it. He's a killer, he doesn't have feelings for anyone, but then you came. You're his first time, you're the one that made him feel like a highschool girl, and fuck he's trying to understand you, but please, understand him too.

He shows his feelings by material things, by acts of service, and when you became intimate, he whispers you the sweetest things in your ear, he hugs you tight to his body, he smells your hair as he admires his cute little thing.

Is he aggressive? He would hit you if you get out of his control, yes. Is he manipulative? Yes, he would run after you then with flowers and gifts to make sure you don't leave him.

What's the thing he liked most of you? You're quiet. He loves quiet, he loves the fact that he can tell you the nastiest things and not even a word would come out of your mouth. He loves that you're easy to handle, so he doesn't feel weak. He loves that you're loyal, he gets hot by thinking that even if he's not good for your mental health, you would still look for him. He loves the idea of you.

And if someone hurts you, he'll make sure they know what they did. I promise, you don't wanna find out.

As the time passes, he gets more empathy with you, and learns how to love you the right way, he listens, he tries to let you do your things by yourself, and he becomes more in love with you, with your trueself, like, no, he doesn't stop being a psychopath bf, but he realizes that you're not just a thing he can throw away, and if he wants to keep you with him, he has to treat you the right way.. Because if he doesn't, he's more than sure that you would never ever go back with him, after how he abused you.

Alastor as a boyfriend is not the best, but he's learning how to be human.

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YEAH I KNOW IT'S KIND OF SAD BUT I had to vent in some way, hehehe, love ya

[queer-here-and-in-fear]

OK. HEAR ME OUT.

i REALLY think we're being misled abt the nature of alastors deal. not like that it sucks or anything, but his opinions on it. cause the show is PAINFULLY CAREFUL with his words.

he didnt sing "GUESS WHO WILL BE KILLING EVERYTHING" NO HE SUNG "GUESS WHO WILL BE PULLING ALL THE STRINGS" he DOESNT want to hurt anyone.

i dont think hes being forced to protect charlie. does lilith seems like she gives an actual FUCK about charlie, lounging on the beach in heaven and only coming down to stop here? why the SHIT would she make alastor be nice to her?

i actually think him helping charlie was him sneaking AROUND the deal somehow. i dont think hed be so confident he could break it if he hadnt already cracked it a little.

i can see him breaking the deal somehow. and instead of fighting - he goes to charlie, he grabs her hand and grins more genuinely then weve seen before and just says - "now, lets go and kill your mother."

[shadebloopnik]

Love how most of the fandom takes one look at Alastor and collectively agrees this man murdered his dad. Like yes that is the correct conclusion

[battlekidx2]

Alastor Theory

Okay, I'm gonna throw my hat into the ring when it come to who has Alastor on a leash and I'm not gonna say Lilith.

I think Eve might also be an option for being the one that owns Alastor's soul.

I think the Lilith connection is a bit too obvious and Lilith hates being forced into subservience canonically within the show, so it would be weird if she chained another soul to do her bidding. And Eve is easily the character that would have the most issues with the Morningstar family, heaven, and hell. She was made out of Adam's rib and given the apple by Lilith and Lucifer. She's been a pawn in other people's plans since the beginning. She's the one blamed for original sin and it's clear she's not in heaven. She was the scapegoat while Adam got off relatively Scott free.

She has so many reasons to want to get back at everyone and what better way to gradually gain a foothold without drawing attention to herself than enlisting the services of a sinner in hell?

It’s said that Alastor immediately started taking out overlords that had been dominant for centuries the moment he stepped foot in hell. There has to be a reason for that. It feels too calculated to be a coincidence.

Plus Lilith’s disappearance coinciding with the Alastor's isn’t necessarily a factor against this theory because it can be explained as Eve essentially throwing Alastor into a battle with Lilith where Alastor was injured and had to take time to recover.

His reaction when Zestial said people thought he had been struck down by holy arms was a bit telling to me. The way he took that moment to look away and collect himself to brush it off read as Zestial hitting too close to the mark.

He's super touchy about why he was gone for 7 years and we've seen that Alastor's berserk button is his pride and he dislikes his strength being questioned. He absolutely would not want to admit he was gone because he was recovering.

That comment seemed too pointed by the writers to be completely written off.

Maybe in this battle Eve got Lilith's soul. If she doesn’t why would Lilith be gone from Charlie’s life for seven years? Why wouldn't she return around the same time as Alastor? She seemed to really care about Charlie. Charlie still tries to call her and she doesn’t seem to hold any resentment toward Lilith, so I think there would have to be a reason beyond nebulous plans that's keeping her away.

Alastor also clearly does not have a good relationship to whoever has his soul, so I kind of imagine if it was Lilith he would be a bit more hostile towards Charlie or it would show a bit more in the moments where he was alone or when Charlie isn't looking. (Alastor is the only character this show is truly subtle with)

I just wanted to put my opinion out there because I've seen so many Lilith owns Alastor's soul theories out there and I wanted to offer a different angle.

[peppersnap79]

Alastor the betrayer?

Alastor is often seen as chaotic evil, unpredictable and untrustworthy, but he actually leans lawful: he's a dealmaker, people who enter into deals with him do so knowingly and of their own free will, whether or not they regret the deal later.

He's specifically shown to be loyal to those he likes on multiple occasions: Rosie says "Alastor has never done me wrong" and Mitzy evidently relies on him to get her out of trouble on a regular basis ("You love takin' care o' me!"). Alastor has people whose company he enjoys and whom he tries to keep safe, who he fights for, and he's fine with this.

As long as he wins.

And so I believe that in his radio tower, after his confrontation with Adam, it's not because he feels sentimental about Charlie and the gang that he's riddled with angst. Sometimes Alastor does genuinely like people. It happens. Not very often, but not so rarely as to be disconcerting. It's fine. Agreeable, even.

Betraying her was never the plan.

A little manipulation, perhaps. Help her out with her wacky nonsense in return for a highly-useful favour or two, that's legit, that's fine. Quid pro quo. Perfectly above-board.

But I think he'd consider it a sign of enormous weakness to full-out betray someone who he'd encouraged to trust him. To trick someone into thinking he was on their side only to stab them in the back when their guard was down? Pathetic. He is egotistical enough to think he is better than that.

Reputation is enormously important for overlords. Sinner demons tend to have animal traits, and many animals make an effort to look big, strong and dangerous in order to avoid the danger and cost of actually having to prove it. Alastor has put a lot of work into his Radio Demon persona.

"Great Alastor, altruist, died for his friends." This is sung as a quote, what someone else might say, a headline that might be shown on one of Vox's news channels. It refers to his reputation, what other demons would think of him. Yeah, you fucking wish.

But he's in real pain. He lost. He was nearly erased. He's not as powerful as he likes to think, as he likes everyone else to think. Even if he survives this still-bleeding wound, the rest of the Pride circle are going to drastically downgrade their estimation of his power level. And he can't fix this because of his deal.

And it's intolerable.

Counterpoint: while betrayal does not seem to be something Alastor does lightly, he is clearly so rattled by his constraints that he might find himself compelled to disregard his own moral code in order to free himself. But if this does turn out to be the case, it will not come easy for him.

[ibarkatpeoplewoofwoofbitch]

Mimzy rant:my favorite character

I cant call it mimzy rant really but the amount of hate this women gets for "ruining" a song is unbelievable.

SHES GETTING MORE HATE THEN VALENTINO A LITTERAL PIECE OF SHIT.

Mimzy didn't interupt it actually she saved it because alastor and lucifer where just yelling at that point she interrupted.

And I just KNOW if some skinny gay twink or angel started singing, everyone wouldn't hate on them.

And if our darling mimzy didn't show up, then we wouldn't know alastors on a leash also and you wouldn't have so many theories so if you're following me and you shit on mimzy then kindly unfollow.

[kittykatthatbitesback]

Our Last Chance

Alastor x Reader Smut

A/N: Hey guys, decided to try something a bit spicier if you know what I mean ;) enjoy

Word count: 2122

Sneak peak:

You hung your head down looking at your elbows folded onto the arm holding on for support, your pussy trying its best not to rip open from his sheer girth and size. It was the most pleasant kind fear. The fact that Alastor could kill you even with his dick was turning you on even more, as some of your juices mixed with his dripped down your legs. He spread your legs even wider with his knees, to get even deeper. You loved the way he manhandled you, while he loved the way the entirety of his length was being sucked in and out of your pussy.

It was Extermination Day in Hell. Chaos was ensuing just outside the doors of the Hazbin Hotel, Angel and Demon blood being shed on each corner of the streets as blood-curdling screams fill the air. Everyone was outside fighting with all of their might and weapons, everyone except for you. Alastor had been searching for you right after he had been defeated by Adam on the rooftop. Adam’s victory had stolen all hope Alastor had for defeating the Angels and the Radio Demon felt as if his world was going to end soon. That’s why he knew exactly what he needed to do.

After desperately running all around Hell to find his favorite face, he eventually found you anxiously pacing in circles in the lobby stressing over the killing spree outside. Alastor rushed as fast as his injuries allowed him and approached you from behind. His wounds were making it hard for him to speak. He decided to instead let his actions do the talking. He raised one hand to your shoulder to knock you out of your daze and bring you to the real world. When that didn’t work, he nudged a bit harder and turned you around to face his front and have your eyes meet his.

“What do you want?” You nearly screamed, clearly frightened and not in a good mood, over thinking about the future of the hotel.

Alastor said nothing, simply let his eyes flit to your lips and trailed his hand down your shoulder to your forearm, grip getting tighter in a hinting way. Trying his best to initiate skin contact, the only thing he wanted right now was to put his dick in your cunt and his mouth on your beautiful body. He wanted to let you know how appreciated and loved you are, to whisper in your ear how well you’ve already protected this hotel as well as some other vulgar thoughts he had always only kept to himself. But there was no future and no other time, right now was the moment to do what he always wanted to do with you.

After your exclamation you pulled yourself away, spinning on your heel in a fit of anger until Alastor’s arm shot out, grabbed and pulled you in with a strength you’ve never felt before so that your back was flush against his front, your curves fitting nicely into his shape, as if you were sculpted specifically for him. It was at this moment that you truly realized that Alastor always downplayed his strength, not only was he one of the most powerful overlords, but he was also a man, really a Demon, yet still a man with primal needs. You could feel everything, his breath on your neck, his nose tracing along your neck, the python-tight squeeze of his hands across your ribs and lower stomach, his legs weaving through yours. His right hand moved down to your ass, giving you a strong squeeze and proceeded to rub circles along the length of your thigh.

“I’ve always particularly liked your ass y/n, one of the prettiest I’ve ever seen” but he said this to you not looking down at your body but slightly craning his neck to look down into your eyes.

“Alastor! There are Sinners outside being mercilessly hunted down and exterminated! I need to figure out a way to save them!” You try to shove Alastor away, but his arms wrapped you into an iron tight cage and all you could do is squirm in place, struggling against his sheer power. Your jerky movements, up and down, side to side, forward and backwards, was rubbing up against Alastor’s cock in the most delicious way. He couldn’t help as his pants grew tight. You froze like a deer in headlights when you felt his bigger than expected dick alarmingly pressing into your ass, scaring you a bit. Even in his pants, this was a size you never had ever seen, let alone felt.

Alastor sensing a change in your attitude, moved his body in a sexually rhythmic motion and you allowed yourself to be swept away into this dance, laughing and feeling your spirits already being lifted. After your laughter died down you realized you both had liked it more than you would like to admit, but Alastor was already past that. Now it was up to you. You began pushing harder back into him, slightly bending forward allowing him to bend with you, having him almost cradle you in his arms. His body was flushed against your back and Alastor held onto you so tight that all of your worries about the extermination disappeared. The only thoughts flooding your head had to do with a certain Radio Demon’s hands roaming your body, searching for your entrance of pleasure. Head tilting back, you opened your mouth hesitating slightly as his lips hovered over yours. Alastor suddenly brought his lips down to meet yours, connecting your bodies by the mouth furiously and with an urgency you’ve never felt from him before. The tone of his actions was reciprocated by you as the kiss quickly became more heated. Yes, the world was ending just a couple meters away outside the doors, but this was your last chance you’ll probably ever have to listen to what your body wants.

Even just kissing Alastor was too much, you begun to see stars behind your closed eyes and your breaths were becoming ragged and more desperate with each second. The way he intertwined his lips with yours was making you moan into his mouth, and he scooped you up into his arms to take this to the next level. Not breaking the bond between your lips, Alastor carried you to the glamorous French sofa in the lobby and threw you onto it. You both feverishly ripped your clothes off and soon both bodies were exposed.

You wasted no time trying to kiss his mouth, but Alastor began working downwards, sucking and giving you hickeys on your neck, tracing the curvature of your breasts with his tongue, and slowly inching even further down. His hands holding your ribs to keep you in place while simultaneously twisting your nipples, Alastor traced a breath just below your navel causing you to draw a sharp breath. He looked up at you and you knew where he was about to go. Alastor didn’t expect things to take this turn but all he wanted before the world ended was to give pleasure and worship your body. But you on the other hand, you needed more. You needed him inside of you. Just as Alastor slid your soaked panties out of the way, you interrupted him, forcing him to look you in the eyes,

“No Alastor. I need you to fuck me. And fuck me hard.” His expression was priceless.

It was a mixture of shock and something else you couldn’t quite name. But before you could try to figure it out, Alastor had grabbed you by the hips and flipped you over so that you were resting over the arm of the sofa. Alastor understood you perfectly well and was already way ahead of you. Your pussy was dripping wet with your juices, just crying out for Alastor’s cock which was already dripping a bit of precum. He didn’t bother to put on a condom, they didn’t have the time. The hotel shook from the shock waves of a nearby explosion, adding to the urgency of this situation. Alastor wished he could make this last longer, but you both were rushing, desperate to do it at least once before you came to your surmises.

Alastor and you had resolved to make these the last best moments of your lives. Prepping your gaping hole by sticking two fingers in, Alastor pulled them out and slid them across your clit, eliciting a soft moan from your lips. Pulling is hand out to replace it with his cock, Alastor pushed with his hips all the way in, you pussy eagerly swallowing him whole. His balls were flushed against your clit and he bent over to stick his fingers drenched with your own fluids into your mouth. You obediently opened and sucked on his middle and pointer fingers as he slightly swirled them, shifting his hips as well as to rub against your clit. Your cunt was so tight, so warm, so wet, that it took all of Alastor’s will power to hold still. You reached your arm around to grab him from behind and started to move back and forth, tired of waiting.

“Y/N, are you sure you want this? Once I start, I won’t be able to stop.” Alastor tried to warn you, his fingers still in your mouth, slightly tugging your lips.

You turned around to look him in the eyes and nodded your head slowly. Immediately, Alastor placed his hands on your hips, getting a good grip and began to slowly thrust. Each thrust was deep and drawn out, causing your body to shake from the amount of force he put into it. His pace was increasing, but the strength remained still as powerful before. You hung your head down looking at your elbows folded onto the arm holding on for support, your pussy trying its best not to rip open from his sheer girth and size. It was the most pleasant kind fear. The fact that Alastor could kill you even with his dick was turning you on even more, as some of your juices mixed with his dripped down your legs. He spread your legs even wider with his knees, to get even deeper. You loved the way he manhandled you, while he loved the way the entirety of his length was being sucked in and out of your pussy. It mesmerized Alastor and he stared in a trance at the way your ass hit his hips repeatedly. Skin slapping against skin filled the hotel lobby and anyone in the hotel would have been able to hear this plus your moaning in harmony with Alator’s grunting.

He pushed one hand on your back, forcing your bouncing tits close enough to the sofa to rub against the fabric, giving you even more pleasurable stimulation. You let out a cry as you feel him crawling his other hand into your hair, curling his fingers into a tight grip, and yanking your head up to get a look at your face. His thrusts were impossibly fast and you felt a knot building in your lower stomach. He was fucking you into oblivion and you both were feeding on your pure instincts, becoming animalistic. He pulled you back high enough to give you a messy kiss as you could feel his dick throbbing and twitching inside of you. You were so close and the hand on your hips slipped down front between your legs to rub ferociously at your clit. That little knot inside of you grew bigger, bigger, and bigger until it exploded, sending you the most intense waves of pleasure you’d ever felt. As you rode out your waves of ecstasy out, Alastor did not slow his pace down, fingers nor thrusts, instead speeding them up and as your pussy clenched and squeezed around his cock. When he approached his orgasm as well, cries and groans filled the sticky air. His thrusts were now sloppy and after he gave one final deep thrust, Alastor rested his head on the small of your back and you felt some of his cum spill out of your cunt. His heavy breaths tickled your back as he laid his forehead on it. He glided his hands up and down your back in a comforting way and he flipped you around to look deep into your eyes. You kissed and drew your hands up to his ruffled hair and as his bare chest laid down on yours, he said out loud,

“I wish we could just stay here forever.”  You smiled at him, closed your eyes, and mumbled a soft agreement.

Despite the war raging on outside, you guys laid in each others arms and fell asleep for the rest of the night. By the time the night was over and dawn was rising, Alastor and you had woken up to an excited Charlie already renovating the hotel.

“We won guys! The Extermination is over and Adam is dead!” Charlie was just beaming with joy.

You looked to Alastor the same second he looked to you, unable to contain your grins, aware of what this would mean.

“Round two?” Alastor smirked at you.

You looked away in embarrassment being in front of Charlie, but slyly snuck a hand

down to his pants to grope his dick.

“After you.”

A/N: AHHHHHHH WTF DID I JUST WRITE THAT

pls let me know if you have any comments or requests I'd be glad to take them :)

[cillacantstudysosheshere]

I have a theory that Alastor was actually a weak demon once he manifested in hell. His leash was used to gain power. He is a deer, he is prey, that was his punishment, to be powerless and defenseless.

The reason he is on a leash is because he gained that power for someone else because why the fuck would a powerful overlord like him want to make a deal with someone

Idk that man confuses meee

[greatalastoraltruist]

So we know Alastor and Lilith disappeared at the same time 7 years ago. And we know that Lucifer had a meeting with Heaven which began the exterminations. We don't know when that happened though. Either they're not mentioning when the exterminations started because they've always happened or because revealing when they started would give too much away and make it too easy to guess things. All Charlie knows is that Lucifer went to the meeting and she assumes he gave the go ahead for exterminations. But the exterminations haven't always happened. They only started after the angels, or specifically Sera I think considering no other angels knew about it, became afraid of the power and influence Lilith had over the demons.

My current theory is that that meeting was called between Sera, Adam, and Lucifer because Alastor and Lilith were planning on working together with him broadcasting her voice on his radio station to inspire the other demons to rise to war against the angels. I think Sera demanded that Lilith and Alastor be separated with Lilith making a deal with Adam to stay in heaven where she can't empower any other demons with her voice or even contact anyone in hell and that Sera demanded the exterminations happen as well in order to not only lessen the demons' power but also instill fear in them in an attempt to prevent future uprisings. I think Alastor was given the options of either be killed or sign a contract limiting his power and requiring him to stay away for a while so that their little idea of rebellion is forgotten amongst the masses. I especially think that because of Zestial's comment about folks thinking Alastor had fallen to holy arms. Maybe Sera is his contract holder. That or they tried to straight up kill him and he somehow escaped barely alive and it's taken this long for him to heal and regain enough power for him to feel comfortable revealing himself to society. But trying to kill him wouldn't explain the contact or his need to 'unclip his wings'.

[turtleofthehollow]

With the idea that Alastor can’t stop smiling because of his deal, I’d love to see Lucifer be the only one who notices

Being one of the oldest being in all of existence, and living in hell since its creation, Lucifer would notice the signs of a deal from a mile away

It’s also likely Lucifer invented deals in the first place, so he would know the full extent of what they can do, which means he’s able to see that Alastor is trapped in a pretty nasty deal

What could be fun to explore is the idea that Lucifer has the power to break any contract made by a demon, and offers to do so for Alastor, but for a price

Alastor is than stuck between a rock and a hard place

Does he take the chance to finally be rid of this deal, only to be leashed to the king of hell? Or does he let his rivalry with Lucifer stop him from accepting this offer

In the end, Alastor accepts the offer, figuring a deal with Lucifer will be less restrictive than his current one

Lucifer raises his hand to break the deal, yet nothing happens

He tries again, and still his powers have no affect on Alastor’s deal

That’s when Lucifer realizes Alastor made a deal with something other than a demon

This whole idea is based on the theory that Alastor made a deal with the root of all evil instead of Lilith

Even if Lucifer wanted to help, he can’t because Alastor is leashed to a being even older, and more powerful than Lucifer himself

Alastor is left sitting there in both the humiliation of actually accepting a deal from Lucifer that proved useless, but also in the horror of knowing there really is no way out of this deal

[drag0nashes]

I'm sorry?? Why is he looking off to the side like that? as If he's scared someone or something saw his staff break??

I swear, something has definitely been watching Alastor's every move and he's horrified at what they might do if he makes a wrong move.

[sp4cec4se]

Spoilers for Hazbin Hotel Ep 5:

Ok, so I definitely don't think Alastor ACTUALLY sees Charlie like a daughter (I'm pretty sure at this point in the show he's had way more interactions with Vaggie). But he also seemed genuinely irritated when Lucifer showed up. Then I thought about his backstory, I can't remember if it's canon or not, but I remember that he had a fairly good relationship with his mum, but his dad was either absent or abusive??? If that is canon, then there's a possibility that he was projecting his own daddy issues onto Lucifer!!! (Hypocrite)

Or maybe everyone else is right, & Al was hanging out with Lilith for the past 7 years & had to listen to her bitching about her ex husband. (I haven't seen episode 6 yet)