#belliamson

[meeks-just-wants-to-scroll]

Micah, Bill and Javier as their animal versions cuz they keep me sane

[wrylu]

magma doodles, again !!!! :D

thank you to the beloved friends who drew with me<333 @fall-inq @butchersflower @eggsaladsweetie had lots of fun with you fellas :]

[fru-89]

[whichstoodonrockyshores]

13, 17, 33 and 37 for Micah/Bill?

13. Who steals the blankets?

They both do. It is a brutal, back and forth battle that lasts all goddamn night. It takes hours for the two of them to work out a way for them to “share,” but it’s hardly equal and Micah gets most of the blanket. Bill ends up buying a bigger blanket after months of this and the fights stop… mostly, unless they’re in Ambarino or somewhere similar. Then it’s on.

17. Do they ever trade clothes?

I think Micah would wear Bill’s flannels sometimes, but only in private and far away from the prying eyes of the gang. Micah thinks Bill’s clothes are comfortable and warm, and he likes how they smell. (Campfires, horses, and general musk because Bill bathes maybe once a week.) Bill thinks it’s kind of cute, and is all for it as long as he gets his flannels back within the week. Bill doesn’t find Micah’s clothes comfortable, finding the scratchy texture awful.

33. Do they go to sleep at the same time as each other?

Not regularly, but it does happen occasionally. Bill goes to sleep first most nights, and Micah follows hours later by sneaking into the tent and passing out under the covers, wrapping Bill up in a hug. The only time they go to sleep at around the same time is when one (or both, if it’s a particular bad day) of them suffer from nightmares. By the time they’ve dealt with that, they’re so exhausted they pass back out together.

37. Thoughts on PDA?

Bill is okay with it, after the gang knows about their relationship. He’s always a bit jumpy about being touched, but Micah gets a free pass ( on most days) and Bill finds his touch calming. Sometimes, a supportive arm around his shoulder is enough to cheer him up from a bad mood. Micah, on the other hand, doesn’t really get PDA or why it would be a problem for anyone. Once the gang is aware that he and Bill are together, Micah is always resting against Bill, sitting next to him, and generally being affectionate.

[tossball-stick]

i gotta chew on sean so bad dude i cant stop thinking about him. a total crybaby who tries to be anything but, but will wail like a child at the first given opportunity.... he tells the annecdote of him crying in front of dutch without external shame. pacing pacing pacing. i gotta write about him but what do i write augh

[redalive1899]

hmmmm suddenly Belliamson got me interested...two big oblivious idiots....*chef's kiss*

[teas-masterlists]

rdr ships

( updated as of 8.29.24 )

belliamson :

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[neon-junkie]

Bill and Micah are totally hooking up and they try to keep things quiet, but everybody knows about it as they aggressivley argue over who gets to be the little spoon every single night

[coldmorte]

yes that's real. i remember being very confused when i went to meet with them and heard it lol

AHHHHAHAHA YESSS!! THAT'S AMAZING.

BELLIAMSON CONFIRMED???

I totally ship it now. There is no way you can convince me that two truly straight men would have a conversation like that. Absolutely no way. There is no justification or excuse. I mean, the fact that Micah tells Bill more than once that he looks nice, and Bill says, "I bathed just for you" - COME ONNNNN!!!!

I definitely missed this conversation, so I am going to pay extra close attention on my current playthrough.

Also, thank you for confirming this. It made my morning! 💜

(For context, this is in reference to @mallr4ts's video posted here!)

[meeks-just-wants-to-scroll]

(I love your art btw it's just so AAAAAAAAA in the best way possible) more Bill williamson please? Maybe some Bill x Micah?👀

Micah, complimenting Bill isn’t enough to make him fall for you, you’re just confusing him on the basis of “why would anyone compliment me?”

[wrylu]

<belliamson3

close-ups under the cut!

i love themb 💞💞💞💕

shoutout to pookmar (@dasybequackin) for being an awesome williambell shippur!!!!! 💗

[meeks-just-wants-to-scroll]

Micah x Javier x bill is so weird but im so curious, what do they think of each other?? Who’s big spoon and who’s little spoon?? Is it an actual ship or what???????

“Is this an actual ship” made me laugh a bit. Idk! You can put names together and call that a ship in my mind.

Opinions of each other:

- overall, dislike each other but the shared experience of being socially unsupported gay/queer men brings them together.

- Javier -> Bill: out of the two, he has the least beef with Bill. He tolerates Bill’s lack of tact and at worst he’ll punish Bill for being an asshole to him. Javier will lend Bill some patience; talk with him and ask how he is.

Javier likes making light jabs at Bill, which sometimes go over his head or land and annoy him. Whatever pairing they have going on, Javier gets a kick out of prodding Bill. He has no fear of Bill’s retaliation because Javier knows he could out smart or out maneuver Bill. ♥️ he likes his men a little doofy. (Maybe that’s why he and John are friends).

- Javier -> Micah: this is a curious pair because you’d think Javier would hate Micah, but Javier tolerates Micah enough to not initiate squabbles with him. It’s only when Micah prods him with insults/racism that Javier won’t hesitate to knock him down a few pegs.

They work well on missions and can be amicable when drunk. Watch the camp interaction of them drinking together, they’re a giggly duo. Javier is the listener to Micah’s yapping.

- Bill -> Javier: hard for him to admit it but he does respect Javier. Bill being ever the social shrimp doesn’t know how to go about it so he kind of loudly (and embarrassingly) blabbered about how Javier is so intimidating and makes grown men piss their pants.

His anger in life is misdirected outwards and Javier gets caught in the crossfires because of Bill’s racism and swiftness to pick at any pickable part of Javier’s person.

Though they have ups and downs (many downs), Javier does save Bill from bounty hunters and would even do it alone. Javier has saved Bill’s ass too many times to count. This further builds on the respect and debt Bill feels he has towards Javier.

He has periods of emotional maturity and is like “heeeeyyy, so I was an asshole and drunk and I don’t actually mean what I said. I’m just a god damn fool and I say things I don’t actually mean and I don’t know why—“ and Javier just waves him and says it’s fine, and do not get himself so worked up.

- Bill -> Micah: Bill doesn’t get micah but Micah has flirted with him enough times to tell Bill something is up. He is desperate for validation and attention and if Micah, the asshole who eggs on his hot head, is the one who offers it then so be it.

When they have a common goal and aren’t bickering, they’re pretty good as a pair on missions. Micah complains how Bill lacks tactic and speed, meanwhile Bill complains Micah lacks patience and foresight.

I’ll just say it. They both want their dicks sucked so bad. They are desperate and they are staring each other in the eyes because they’re the only two men who drop hints of being gay (Javier is good at hiding his queerness; it goes over Bill’s head).

- Micah -> Bill: like Javier, he prods at Bill except instead of harmlessly, Micah actually tries to get a reaction.

Micah and Bill get along when drunk but instead of micah talking and the other listening, they both sort of talk drunkenly. Bill understands the conversation even less than when sober, but he is far more honest when drunk and more capable of being vulnerable. Pair that with Micah being drunk and you get a combo that leads to a gay admission of needing some sugar.

Micah also just likes Bill’s laugh… he likes hearing Bill make a fool of himself. And Micah makes a fool of himself too so it’s not so imbalanced.

- Micah -> Javier: they spit and bicker. Micah sees through Javier’s fancy clothes and sees a vain man who clings to authority for guidance in life and value in his person. Micah is similar and hates seeing that reflected. Again, misplaced anger.

When drunk tho, Micah is so much kinder to Javier. While micah is in no real debt to Javier nor is he especially amazed by Javier’s skills, he can see him as one of the guys who can take his insults and not immediately walk off. He likes a man who can take rough treatment and still punch back (it’s hot).

There is so much sexual tension when drunk. Micah tried to be intimidating and get in Javier’s space, but Javier doesn’t back down and it means they’re now just close together and drunkenly whispering and hot in the face. Kiss already.

- The Triad (F of a Feather): I bet the three of them were camped out on a mission one time and got to talking while alone. Assume they all had some sort of sexual tension before this point on their own individual pairs. Now they’re eyeing each other like it’s a stand-off… they all thinking “I’m the weirdo here for having fantasies about the others. I’m such a perv.” Little do they know that they are ALL desperate closeted gay men!

Cuddle politics:

Javier is spooned by Bill or Micah.

Micah is spooned by Bill.

The other two can try and spoon Bill but it’s hard. It turns into laying on Bill’s chest.

They rarely cuddle as a trio. They are a polycule but look like pairs and then one third wheel. (they wouldn’t call themselves a polycule or a couple. Idk what they’d call it. It’s just an agreement they have that they are all hungry for the other and there is no jealousy to be had because “none of us are dating.”)

Who is the pair and who is the wheel changes and had no cycle. Micah is most likely to go off on his own and leave Javier and bill to be bromance buddies.

And that’s roughly what I have. It’s a lot.

[whichstoodonrockyshores]

OTP Questions: Belliamson, Micah/Bill.

Wanted to answer a few more of these questions with this pairing, I’ll also be doing a few for other pairings. Here’s the other questions I’ve answered for Micah/Bill.

4. What’s the relationship like? Smooth? Rocky?

I’d say somewhere in between. When it’s going good, and Bill and Micah are getting along, it’s a smooth relationship. This is mostly true during the duration of the game, up until Beaver Hollow. During Beaver Hollow, Micah starts pushing Bill further away from his friends to pull him closer to himself. Bill didn’t realize that was happening until the gang was already disbanded. Their relationship becomes a lot rockier from there, fights beginning easily, as Bill is very upset about the Dutch situation and Micah’s poor decisions.

More under the cut!

10. How do they resolve their arguments?

Bill and Micah don’t argue a lot, but when they do, the whole camp knows about it because Bill storms through camp, yelling about whatever it is they’re upset with each other over. They’re also very loud in general, so it’s easy to hear them fighting. After hours of sulking and letting him calm down, Dutch can pretty easily convince Bill to apologize and stop informing the entire camp of his relationship issues, haha.

38. Thoughts on each other’s friends?

Micah is fine with Bill’s friends, he almost has to be because they’re all in the same gang. He thinks Arthur is somewhat annoying, but he respects Morgan more than Marston and Escuella. Micah tends to get a bit jealous when Bill spends a lot of time with his brothers (they’re younger and, in his opinion, more attractive than him) but Bill reassures him that he’d never cheat on Micah, especially with Arthur, John or Javier.

As for Micah’s friends, Bill tries his hardest to get along with Cleet and Joe. He doesn’t particularly like them, but he’s civil with them, for Micah’s sake.

[wrylu]

i hate this but it's quite alright <33 have some random doodles

[meeks-just-wants-to-scroll]

i am intrigued in micah x bill (belliamson? bicah??) but does vigorous fucking accidentally result of both finding a reason to live and becoming better people or do they make each other worse?? is it a fling or do they catch feels?? i want the tea on your take

Haha well my take depends on what media is present. The ship is so under appreciated that I just agree with whatever media I can find. I do love the existence of multiple takes on a ship! diversify in a fandom breeds innovation and community. I will tell you my take on what you outlined.

- one interpretation I have seen is the idea that they started some sort of gay sex truce and accidentally became closer because of it. I constantly think back to Micah openly telling Bill he looks nice and doubling down that he is being honest when Bill says he doesn’t believe what he says. ^.^ this was my catalyst for the ship.

Micah (semi-closeted bisexual?) and Bill (closeted gay) agreeing to have sex together also makes sense because although Micah and Bill snap teeth at each other often, I feel like Bill is the closest person (who isn’t Dutch) Micah has. Micah is not exactly Bill’s friend, but Micah and Bill could bond if they were drunk. Maybe they bond over being bootlickers to Dutch, who knows!

- as for if their friend with benefits situation makes them better or worse people is up to the person shipping them. I like both takes!

I don’t think either of them would inherently fix the other magically, but I can see having someone in your corner for Micah and Bill would be ground breaking because both of them have been pretty lonely whether they admit it or not. I can see both of them making small, slow efforts to not piss off the other as much. Micah stops kicking Cain because Bill REALLY hated that. Now Micah just jealously stink eyes the dog whenever he’s getting all of Bill’s attention. Bill is an asshole in his own way but he isn’t as openly antagonizing as Micah is (seriously, he is a whole other level of stirring the plot). Bill is maybe more honest and believing of Micah when Micah gives him crumbs of kindness, like compliments. The both of them need to open up and make a modicum of effort to maintain a friendship.

I haven’t seen a lot of media around Bill x Micah resulting in them improving into better people. I would be interested to see some if people find it.

- the interpretation I enjoy a lot is them being two guys who revel in their cruddy behavior because the entire gang tolerated them at best. Instead of improving as people, they accept that having this asshole as a fuck-buddy buddy is better than being alone. They aren’t better as people, their asshole behavior is just consolidated on other people as opposed to each other.

Bill and Micah being buddies came to me during the coach robbery in chapter 4. I really liked their dynamic with Arthur and how Micah + Bill could team up and make fun of Arthur because they both dislike him, but at the same time Bill could agree with Arthur to call Micah out on his gross behavior, vise versa, Micah and Arthur can agree and poke fun at Bill to get the hothead to take the bait and make a fool of himself. Perhaps Mr. Black and Mr. White is a comparison that isn’t too far off; Micah and Bill will argue and squabble but in the end they like the other person’s guts.

- as for fling vs serious, I think Micah would firmly be opposed to a serious relationship. If he were to soften to the idea of it, it would have to be after a lot of time and many small catalysts to initiate changes in him. Little domino trails that eventually lead to Micah opening himself to real connection. It definitely was a fling initially. I mean… look at Bill. He is a walking rainbow flag saying “please. I need to be bedded.” Micah is no fool and he knows if he plays his cards right, he could get a sweet deal out of the situation. Even if their situationship turned out to be mediocre, it beats lonely masturbation and Micah making a fool of himself trying to flirt with Sadie, Abigail, Susan, and Mary.

[neon-junkie]

i started shipping Micah and Bill as a joke, and now i actually really ship them... help...