#big ajax

[adriles]

From my will: No funeral. Instead host a debate between some of the guys i know for ownership of my stuff, sowing hatred and distrust between them. as a bit

[smokey07]

Random headcanons for my Iliad AU. (Extend from this fic and this Tumblr post)

-Achilles is ambidextrous. Low key used to have a problem to tell which is left and which is right. He used his hair bang to tell which one.

-Nestor has embarrassed intel of everyone, and he has a network of gossipers from every camp. Until the event of Odyssey, the members are still unknown. His memory is also exceptional. Same with all of his sons.

-Odysseus loves salty dried fish.

-Once in a while, the commanders will cook for each other, just to show good will and diplomacy. (Nestor has list of who can actually cook edible food, and half of them are inedible).

-Agamemnon is actually a very good cook.

-Patroclus accidentally cooks puffer fish for the commanders once.

-Big Ajax still piggybacks Teucer once in a while.

-Teucer has a stomach of steel.

-Diomedes hits his head in the doorframe almost every day. Odysseus purposefully lowers the frame of his hut just to see it whenever they meet.

-Menelaus hates snakes with an unwavering passion.

-Spy missions happen more often than everyone realizes. Mostly decides via bets. In year 2 Hector and Aeneas met Diomedes in disguise, and they had a 3 hour talk about horses, while Odysseus ran off gathering intel.

-Achilles (out of natural ability/genes) and Odysseus (out of experience) can tell whenever fish migrates, and the entire camp will go fishing for a few days. This ability later translates to Neoptolemus and there is a “tuna incident” during the event of Little Iliad.

[vint-knight]

The Greeks whenever Odysseus yaps about Penelope in a non important meeting during the 10 years of Troy:

[sua-moonbow]

I fully belive that if it wasn't for Aphrodite Ares would have been in the achean side during the trojan war even if Hera and Athena wouldn't had ask him to. At the end of the day Ares is a God who loves violence and whatever violence the trojans can pull the acheans just do it better!! The trojans kill hundreds of people in a day?? Achilles does that in an hour, the trojans commit horrible crimes?? That's cute, Odysseus can do worse in less time and more often, Hector can one-shot people whit big ass rocks? Greater Ajax can throw bigger rocks. And the list can go on and on, plus, Menelaus is said to be beloved by Ares (probably not his blorbo but totally the guy who he likes very much even if he isn't his favourite) so yeah, he would have been whit them but Aphrodite said "my love would you be whit me during the war 🥰?" And Ares said yes because he loves his girl more than he loves violence! He probably was like "i might be whit the trojans but i like the acheans better" during all the war!!!

All of this just to say that when Aphrodite saved Paris from Menelaus Ares made her sleep on the couch for the next week

[ilions-end]

Tecmessa, Her Son, and Teucer Lamenting the Dead Ajax (1809). Etching by Carl Russ

[xuct]

my friend in discord asked for Ajax the Great, and told me thing about him

so again, silly small

and big big

also he kissed

[5duckie]

When I was in elementary school, I read a children's comic book about Greek mythology. What stood out to me the most was that all the characters were incredibly good-looking.

On the cover, Achilles is dragging Hector behind his chariot. (Wtf Achilles stop that)

Achilles (I really love that smug look on Achilles' face.)

Big Ajax

Patroclus (I like Patroclus the most in this character design.)

Hector (He was my first love, but when I saw Achilles dragging his body, I was so shocked that I cried as a kid. Hes still my fav.)

Aeneas

Diomedes

Odysseus

I own all the volumes of the Comic Greek and Roman Mythology series by Eun-yeong Hong(홍은영)! Hehe!

[babyrdie]

The poet of The Iliad really said "I will repeatedly invoke the paternal/maternal imagery in my heroes in relation to the dead Patroclus"

Menelaus

And the felling of Patroclus at the hands of the Trojans in the fighting did not go unnoticed by warlike Menelaos, and he set out through the frontline warriors armored in gleaming bronze, and stood astride the body, as a mother cow lows over her firstborn, knowing nothing before this of bearing young; so fair-haired Menelaos stood over Patroclus; he held before him his spear and the circle of his shield, straining to kill any man who might come against him.

17.1-8.

Big Ajax

And Ajax, putting his broad shield as covering about the son of Menoetius, took his stand, as a lion stands over its young, a lion that hunting men encounter as it leads its little ones in the woods; and the lion is confident in his strength, and draws down all folds of his forehead to veil his scowling eyes; so Ajax stood astride the warrior Patroclus, and on the other side Menelaos the son of Atreus, beloved by Ares, took his stand, and great was the grief swelling in his breast.

17.132-140.

Achilles

Then they took their meal throughout the army; but the Achaeans through all the night groaned aloud as they mourned Patroclus. And the son of Peleus led their impassioned lament, placing his man-slaughtering hands on the breast of his companion, groaning without ceasing, as a full-maned lion, whose cubs a hunting man has stolen away out from the dense forest, and who returning too late is stricken with grief, and many is the valley he traverses, following after the footprints of the man, in the hope he would find him in some quarter; for very bitter anger holds him; so groaning deeply Achilles addressed the Myrmidons: [...]

18.313-323.

Note: citing Caroline Alexander' translation.

I know there are other maternal/paternal imaginaries (mother Ajax, son Teucer, you will always be dear to me), but I find it curious that I found three different characters having this type of simile in relation to the same context (Patroclus dead). Two of them are lions (there is debate about whether it is a lion or a lioness, but anyway, same animal) and one is a cow.

[numberonestuckyshipper]

POVs are so interesting, since I was introduced to EPIC I’ve reread Circe and gone back to finish a trilogy that I gave up a few weeks ago, and my opinion on Odysseus keeps on fluctuating because of it

*listens to Epic*: I like this dude, he’s smart, chill, and loves his wife

*reads circe*: this guy is such an asshole, why is he a hero and why do people like him.

*listens to Epic*: nahhh he’s chillll, he has a good voice and he actually loves his family :3

*reads Pallas*: if this guy doesn’t leave the page this instant I am throwing the book against the wall. How could anyone like his dumbass. He’s a liar and trickster who doesn’t actually love his wife. Why would Athena ever chose his ass over Big Ajax

*listens to Epic*: ….this man is a good father and husband who cares about his mother… :)

[mt-isnothere12]

troy ver

[adriles]

Pre grievous loss : Yeah this sucks 👍 im packing my shit up tomorrow 👍 have fun fighting warriors for the sake of another man’s wife dipshit👍

Post grievous loss : Ἕκτορ μή μοι ἄλαστε συνημοσύνας ἀγόρευε: ὡς οὐκ ἔστι λέουσι καὶ ἀνδράσιν ὅρκια πιστά, οὐδὲ λύκοι τε καὶ ἄρνες ὁμόφρονα θυμὸν ἔχουσιν, ἀλλὰ κακὰ φρονέουσι διαμπερὲς ἀλλήλοισιν, ὣς οὐκ ἔστ᾽ ἐμὲ καὶ σὲ φιλήμεναι, οὐδέ τι νῶϊν ὅρκια ἔσσονται, πρίν γ᾽ ἢ ἕτερόν γε πεσόντα αἵματος ἆσαι Ἄρηα ταλαύ��ινον πολεμιστήν. παντοίης ἀρετῆς μιμνήσκεο: νῦν σε μάλα χρὴ αἰχμητήν τ᾽ ἔμεναι καὶ θαρσαλέον πολεμιστήν. οὔ τοι ἔτ᾽ ἔσθ᾽ ὑπάλυξις, ἄφαρ δέ σε Παλλὰς Ἀθήνη ἔγχει ἐμῷ δαμάᾳ: νῦν δ᾽ ἀθρόα πάντ᾽ ἀποτίσεις κήδε᾽ ἐμῶν ἑτάρων οὓς ἔκτανες ἔγχεϊ θύων.

[baejax-art]

When your dumbass cousin is running his mouth again at the assembly and you just want to go back to your tent and eat dinner

[smokey07]

Some Iliad character designs of the old Greek Myth children comic book series published a long time ago in my home country, which had low key inspired my art years later.

I used to own the whole series, now I don’t even know where some of the volumes are.

P.S the whole series is a combination of many famous myths and is arranged in a somewhat chronological order, so from the formation of the world towards the rise of the 12 Olympians and in the end the Age of Heroes and Aeneid.

Hector with his magnificent mustache

Aeneas

Andromache, she is so pretty

Paris and Polyxena

Big Ajax ( ft Achilles and Odysseus chilling in the background)

Helen my girl

Clytemnestra. She’s magnificent.

Menelaus(left) and Agamemnon(right). Looking back, the little crown on Agamemnon’s head is killing me fr. This is also why long hair Menelaus is supreme.

Diomedes, he has very generic design compared to the others, which ironically fits his fate of being underrated.

Odysseus. I swear the artist is a Ody fanboy, he was given the silkiest and floatiest hair, though the red color made him look like Achilles’ cooler cousin, even more than Ajax.

The inspo for this long post, Achilles himself. It seems they followed the “Pyrrha” route, so he is a redhead here. Funny that he was drawn to be quite huge and bulky, in some scene even more than Ajax.

Neoptolemus. He had red-brown hair instead and had very minor appearance in the whole series, so they just drawn him like a smaller and younger Achilles

[lions-and-men-musical]

tw: non-graphic implied suicide (of greater ajax)

what’s even left for us after the war? / we can’t live like this anymore

lyrics by me, and would appear in the song Costs Too Great, sang by Teucer (the eyes in the first image)

I had a lot of fun with colors in this one, kinda mondrian inspired. I really like the first 3 panels but something about the last big image seems off. that was the goal but still idk

[sua-moonbow]

In my mind Big Ajax and Palamedes exsist in two different sides of the coworkers-that-Odysseus-does-not-like spectrum. Big Ajax is a guy who he doesn't like but can work whit and respects a lot, he would even have a civil conversation whit him, i would even say he trusts him in a way.

Meanwhile Palameds is a guy who he doesn't like nor respect, the only reason why he didn't kill him sooner is because they needed him for the war. The only way to make this two talk to each other is if it's work related, otherwise it's imposible. 0 trust there, Odysseus would sooner trust a trojan soldier than him

[sunrise94]

ajax & teucer battle mode appreciation post