#bring my vminkook back to me :(((((((((

[lesbiansuga]

VMINKOOK BTS Monuments: Beyond The Star cr.moreloveforhobi

[iicha-0s]

Kissing Contest| !vminkook×reader

A/N: hey guys this is a new series! this is the first part. lmk what you guys think! hope you enjoy it! :D

Tags: !drug use (alchohol, weed), !very cocky behaviour, !mentions of masturbation, !kink, !mentions of sex, !all four of you are hard-core party people, !smoking, !alchohol consumption, !flirting

"please no guy knows how to kiss." You wave your hand in the air.

"You're just saying that because you haven't kissed me." he crosses his arms over his chest acting proud of his supposed kissing skills.

"please when i say guys, i mean all guys in general. it's like you're tryna slop up an ice-cream when you try to kiss someone."

"puh-lease. don't count me in amongst these numb skulls. i've had a lot of ladies tell me about my amazing tongue skills."

"uhuh, and how many of them were drunk out of their minds?" You roll your eyes and stand up, pushing past people to go to the kitchen. you pour yourself another drink and chug it down before refilling your glass once again.

*the next day*

Jimin sits down opposite to you and next to Jungkook while Taehyung sits down next to you.

"whatchu guys talking about?" he takes hold of a fork and digs into his burrito bowl.

"I just don't get why you said that to me yesterday. like you haven't kissed me to know about my kissing skills!" He brings up last night's topic again while stabbing a piece of fried chicken with his fork.

"ugh! im not doing this again." You roll your eyes.

"What! its true. stop normalising everyone else's behaviours on me. i'm not like everyone else."

"yea yea. you're the golden ball or something, aren't you?"

"egg. im the golden egg."

"tomayto, tomahto." You roll your eyes again.

"Stop it would you!" He groans and packs up his takeout box and stands up frustrated and walks away.

"what! is this your way of saying you wanna kiss me!" you watch him walk away angrily.

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you tilt the bottle of Gin more, adding more alchohol in your glass than you normally do. you take a sip from it and turn to all the kids from your college who were dancing, making out and grinding against each other while being drunk out of their minds.

maybe it was the amount of times you've chugged down glasses of tequila, vodka and Gin but you were starting to feel the hit a little. you walk over to the other living room and drop on the couch next to Yoongi as he passes you the joint he was smoking. you hold your glass on your lap while taking a puff from the joint and blow it out, repeating the process a few times until you start feeling the high.

the couch dips next to you and you look to see Jungkook sitting down next to you. he takes the joint from you and takes a few puffs and leans his head back against the backrest of the couch to feel the high coursing through his body better.

"hey." He says when he feels you leaning against his side and extends his arm over the backrest to let you get comfortable.

"hey." You take the joint from him and take another puff before taking a sip from your drink and passing the joint to Yoongi.

"and the love birds are back at it again." Taehyung says entering the room with Jimin. he goes and takes a seat next to Yoongi while Jimin walks upto both of you, sits on Jungkook's lap and leans in against you to whisper some things in your ear.

"You know, I heard our little Kookie moaning your name while jerking off last night after the fight between you two. maybe he's got a kink for hate-fucking. think about it." He says even tho he knew Jungkook was listening.

"shut up hyung. it's gross of you to listen in to what I'm doing in my room." he pushes Jimin away from you.

"you were being too loud even after i asked you to shut up." he looks back at him while turning to sit sideways on his lap, his legs now laying over yours and Jungkook's legs.

"this is too much TMI for me. i don't wanna know about anyone's sexual adventures. especially not of the people I hang out with on a daily basis." You take the joint from Yoongi and take a few puffs before passing it to Jungkook.

"Why? is it because you'd feel jealous you're a part of them only as an imagination and not in reality?" Jimin chuckles ask Jungkook snorts while passing him the joint.

"You're disgusting. you wish i'd wanna have sex with any three of you fuckers who always sweat like a heroine addict." You chug down the last sip of alchohol left in your glass.

"now now don't get all defensive, Y/n. we know how bad you want us." Taehyung pitches in and you flip him off before holding your glass out to him asking him to get you a refill.

he laughs softly and takes your glass before standing up and asking around the room if anyone else wanted a refill too and left the room with their glasses.

you guys continue drinking and smoking, cracking weird jokes that unnecessarily make you all laugh too hard due to how buzzed you guys were but noone cared.

as the night went on, some people left the party but a lot of them stayed and now you were left with Jungkook on the couch you curled up into his side while Jimin and Taehyung went out to busy finding themselves girls to have a different type of fun with.

"about what you said the other day.." Jungkook starts causing you to sigh and pull away to sit straight. "no. listen to me." he pulls you back against him.

"about what you said the other day, I was offended because you're really judging a book by its cover. that phrase is something you say all the time so why aren't you following up with it now?" he wraps his arm around your neck to keep you close.

"thats what literally every guy says, and you all turn out to be the same." You snort and start laughing.

"not with mee~" He whines softly. "give me a chance and you'll understand."

you raise an eyebrow and look at him only to realise he was being serious.

let's take chances tonight then.

[beautifulpersonpeach]

im so confused about that taekook pic. is jimin trolling? it's like he's toying with us? pls plss plss don't forget this ask bpp. pls answer my asks. i don't get why everything feels fake about jikook, tkk, jimin. is he even happy? it's like hybe is pulling the strings and trying to confuse jimin stans to frustrate us.

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Ask 2:

At this point I just feel like we're getting played with lol. By who and for what? I don't know. But I've felt this way ever since we got photos/video that jimin did in fact get a cake for his solo and I'm sure big hit saw what the fandom was saying about him not getting one and they still waited to announce that he did.

BTS just isn't fun anymore for me rn. There's just this tension surrounding everything. And not just with shipping. It's fandom wide blatant favoritism. Shifting confusing narratives from the guys themselves (Jungkook claiming he's not trying to shy away from the maknae image when that's all he's been saying for months now???). Tae doing whatever it is that he's doing (bless his heart chile). Namjoon seems to be a mess rn, I wanna give him a hug, he speaks like life is kicking his ass. And our jiminie, I can't get a read on but he seems happy. And the other 3 being in the army so they're not causing trouble lol.

These taekook pics from jimin, hmmm idk, maybe it's his way of telling people he doesn't care about the backlash, and tae bringing jungkook up constantly, and we should back off.

It's all a mess. I never thought I'd long for the day we'd get a real break lol. I WANT to miss them.

I don't hate them. This is just exhausting. It's like them and the company are trying to be strategic with everything and it feels a bit disingenuous? Idk if that's the word. Maybe disconnected is more the word. And I know they've always been strategic in the things they do, so idk why this feels different to me.

Anyway, thanks for letting me ramble in your inbox lol

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Ask 3:

Something feels wrong about suchwita. It feels forced. Am I the only one who feels Hybe is doing damage control with jikook to contain the fallout from Golden? BPP I'd like to hear what you think about vminkook's date, suchwita revealing the travel variety in context of all the controversies that happened lately. Does Jimin just not care about taekooker hate? He might be kind but he's still human.

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Ask 4:

I give up on Jimin. Tired of stanning a grown man letting himself get played for a fool. Hybe, you won. Gloat away BPP. You and the rest of the OT7 cows win.

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Ask 5:

BPP your asks about that RM - FACE credits controversy from Pjms reminded me of one debate I saw btw flat earthers and scientists. It's the most fascinating thing I've ever seen. The part that made me think of you is how flatearthers called the scientists uneducated, said they did their own calculations and made their own observations to arrive at fringe theories that disputed the wider consensus. I found it so strange how both scientists and flat earthers could observe the same thing but reach widely different conclusions. I know you've been going over and over with solos for some months so I hope this can make you laugh a bit BPP.

https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=Q7yvvq-9ytE

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Hi Anon(s),

Lol, Anons in asks 1 through 4, why are you letting your minds torment you over things that should be obvious? Anon in ask 5, you sent me that ask last week, but it feels apt to post it now given the sort of asks I've gotten in the last few hours.

How many times can we go over the sort of conspiratorial thinking that plagues people who eventually become akgaes, thought patterns that have been shown several times this year to be completely misguided? If the only conclusion you can reach after everything we've seen in the last 10 months, after seeing Jikook, Taekook, Yoonmin, Vmin, and Yoonkook's conversations recently, is that 'someone' must be trying to pull a fast one on you, then maybe you should take a step back.

Honestly, in my opinion, you all fit the profile of people who should engage with k-pop very sparingly. Most times, I've observed these sort of views (also in the case of flat-earthers) are caused by gaps in foundational knowledge about the subject coupled with personal implicit biases. I see this happen all the time, and it's unfortunately the sorts of people who think like this who only get further sucked in, to the point they lose any semblance of a reference point. If you're still at the point you're asking these questions, especially Anon in ask 1, 2 and 3, there's still a chance. I'd suggest a clean break, a detox period, and very limited exposure going forward but starting from scratch and actually watching official content from the early years. A lot of people who joined the fandom post-2020 have only seen compilations and selected clips of BTS's formative years, and so they lack the background to better interpret everything that's happening in Chapter 2 - from why HYBE wouldn't respond to akgaes whining about cakes by posting it right away, to how vminkook have behaved throughout Chapter 2.

Listen to how you feel and please step back.

With flat earthers it's funny because in a bid to be skeptical, to 'question everything' so they aren't "played as a fool", they end up becoming just that. For most other people there's no joke, but for them the joke is always on them.

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Thanks for the video, Anon in ask 5. But rather than make me laugh, it did the opposite. The conclusion of the video is that no flat-earther, not one, changed their minds after debating with the scientists. I had a theory that the people who end up as akgaes were always going to be that regardless of any arguments that run contrary to their beliefs, because at the heart of it, it's not about the arguments but about them. But I hoped I could be wrong. Extrapolating the conclusion of this video to my theory, the suggested implication is bleak as hell.

Anyway, stream Golden and enjoy jikook jikooking. Sounds like we're about to get a full calendar of content.

[dearweirdme]

I have been a tkkr almost as long as i have been an army since like 2016. im jk biased and tae has always been my bias wrecker. i have consumed taekook fan content such as reading aus and fanfics, etc. but i wouldn't say i am a believer (?). i am simply a shipper i guess? i just cannot bring myself to believe they are actually dating (nor do i believe that they are dating other members for that matter).

BUT i want to believe so help me with this

recently i fell down the taekook tumblr rabbit hole and i am very intrigued. you said in one of your last posts on how to distinguish a couple without them kissing or obvious physical affection and you answered it perfectly no doubt, the actions of a couple are very different from a pair of friends.

but what actions do you see tkk doing specifically that the other pairs are not doing??? you said they don't have any physical boundaries with each other but other pairs do. but sometimes i can see other pairs also not having a definite moment for their boundaries. i for the life of me cannot see the difference.

as a jk biased person it is very obvious to me he has a different wavelength with all the members and he is closer to some than others. so are the other members. i am not doubting that they could be queer or anything but i just cant see jk and tae dating each other. ofc it is very obvious that they are close friends who clearly love each other but i cant see anything more than that

so help me with this, tell me where can i start? like suggest me specific content to go back and watch? cuz i have pretty much seen everything maybe this time ill watch with a different lense

Hi anon!

Well… this is quite different from people usually telling me to stop Tkking 😂. To start off, it’s not necessary to believe in them. If you’re fine just enjoying their friendship, than that’s totally fine. And also.. if you haven’t seen what I see by now while you have already watched Tkk extensively, I’m not sure what I can say to enlighten you more.

I agree that there are moments when other pairings are also extremely physically intimate. To me those moments are more like a temporary extension of physical boundaries, because it suits the occasion. For instance, while engaging in banter two people might touch each other differently in places they might otherwise not do so freely. Or when comforting someone, those boundaries are also temporarily widened, because comforting someone might call for a more physical approach. That is what I see a lot between other members.. it has to do with the context of the moment a lot. Whereas between Tae and Jk I feel there’s more of a continuation of extended physical boundaries and their actions don’t rely on context much. They just touch freely.

It is hard to talk about signs of them being a couple, because we only/mostly see them in ways that have nothing to do with their private lives. We don’t see couply moments of any member. What I do feel we have seen are moments in which they seem in love.

Tae kissing Jk’s neck is a strong one for me. Jk’s reaction to it is also telling I feel.

The way Tae looked at Jk during the vminhopekook live is telling to me.

I think the vminkook live is also real showing of the attraction between them.

When we look at things that happened more recently, I feel them wearing the same shirt on the same day is a thing couples would definitely do, but best friends maybe not so much.

For me the lives Tae did where he was listening to the song Jk songs for him (missing Jk) and the two after, also very much speak of them being a couple to me, because when you look at those combined and place them in context you get Tae missing Jk very much while he was away, Jk going (almost) straight to Tae when he arrived back home, and them sharing a bed later at night. It just makes so much sense to me.

It will always be subjective. It’s not possible to speak of hard evidence. But when I look at the whole of it, I just see a clear story that makes sense to me.

[stormblessed95]

Exactly storm

Taekookers being nasty af towards Jimin and Jkkrs are very wierd to Tae. I saw many jkkrs here saying they are not same as tkkrs..yes I agree. But, if we look back to 6-7 years before Taekookers were not nasty like this to JM. Slowly all those conspiracy theories piled up + lack of Tkk moments made them Rabid shippers.

Jkkrs are at starting stage. Just a few years before Jkkrs didn't had any problems with tae nor tkk, if anything they were happy when JM made Tkk rekindle their friendship. But now they have some conspiracy theory + lack of Jkk moments which made them to be wierd to Tae. Unlike last year, this year they got brave enough to publicly post it on their main acct. So Maybe after 1-2 years we will see Jkkrs turning to rabit shippers as well.

ALWAYS REMEMBER WE ARE THE OUTSIDERS HERE

None of us know Tae or JM or Jk than they knows each other. I LOVE LOVE LOVE THE HECK OUT OF JM. Even if I find some of tae's behavior wierd regarding Shipping who am I to publicly criticise him when the person I love the most is seen talking to Tae happily ? Now I just used tae's name as an example, we all may have some moments with all members we might not agree with, it natural..but I always look at jimin. If he's fine, I'm fine too.

Tkk came together + Vmin were talking to each other + Jkk had few moments + they all were standing together. So who am I to decide how they should act with their friend ? Who am I to say one is being shady there ? Who am I to say one is using another for FS ?

Also I hope Jkkrs will stop obsessing over tkkrs. None of it will make them stop hating JM, none of will make Vminkook hate each other, none of it makes a ship more real. Just report and block, more you spend energy on them, more you get done with everything. Just sit back and enjoy their music and bonds. It's so easy and make Fandom experience 10x better.

.... I mean yes. But like, where were essays like this one 2 from everyone on anon (to me or literally to anyone else) when I said literally the exact same thing basically, said I would block people for anti behavior, and was therefore attacked. Called a bad/fake "jikooker" and army? Yeah... idk. 1 to 2 years? Yeah, I think you should move that timeline WAYYY up honestly. I said a few months ago if things don't start getting called out, if things don't start changing, the jikooker community will be heading down the same direction tkkrs did. I said 2 months ago that people asked how tkkrs got as bad as they did and what happened there. That they have their answer and are witnessing it happen to jikookers in real time now. I stand by that. That's what happening here now. And if it continues down this direction.... it will just get worse until jikookers ARE exactly like tkkrs. Just like I used to try defending against by all the anti shippers who used to say that. It's a dark path jikookers are standing at the start of. If they ignore the warning signs and continue to walk it anyway, we all know where it's going. Or we should by now. I want no part of it any longer. I tried, I was attacked horribly for WEEKS for my efforts, by "jikookers" people who claimed they "used to love me". 🙄 So now I'm here for BTS and BTS only. And essays like this, after time has passed, after no one felt the need to say anything before this, idk. Idk the word I'm looking for, but it's not pleasing. Even though I AGREE with you for the most part and none of this is directed at you specifically, just everything and everyone in general. Sorry, I just can't bring myself to feel anything other than "yeah, that's what I said a while ago. And look how that turned out." Idk, I'm just down to "I told you so's" which feels petty and not quite accurate of my feelings either. So it is what it is. But I do encourage everyone else to sit on how you are actually feeling about everything more and think about it all for yourselves. Not what I or any other blogger is saying about it. And remember what it is that drew you to BTS for the first place and why you are ARMY. I'm here because I love them as people and I love their music. 💜

[kookiecakes]

Looking for bunny hybrid JK pls! thank you!!

Alright so i've got a pretty long list, but I will say that bunny hybrid JK includes a lot of smut, so if that is not for you, half of this list will be pointless.

I've put them into categories of what I've personally read/ recommend and ones I haven't read but seem well-liked. I also only added completed fics, and compared to all the bunny hybrid jk fics there are out there, this is pretty small. Also all pretty long so be sure to let me know if you're looking for shorter fics.

PERSONALLY READ

whatever homes are made of by Afuzzyowl (M, 81k, taekook)

Summary:

Taehyung was afraid that an abandoned hybrid like Jungkook would be wary or anxious or—standoffish, at the very least.

But the day he brings him back from the hybrid adoption center, Jungkook, with his face redder than Samyang’s Extra Spicy Roasted Chicken Ramen, asks if it would be okay to hold Taehyung’s hand.

And within weeks, Taehyung goes from dragging himself into a cold apartment at the end of a long, hard day, to throwing open the door shouting, “KOO!” and launching himself at his bun.

review: I LOVE this fic. It's just. amazingly cute and I love it so much

i'm not a predator (make me your prey) by alphabusan (E, 7k, vminkook)

Summary:

Jimin and Taehyung love fucking other alphas, especially hot tatted ones dressed like Jungkook.

Jungkook is, apparently, not another alpha.

review: ABO-verse. blatant pwp and I loved it. the sex was god tier, honestly

Be Brave, Little Bunny by kuragecharms (M, 122k, namseok, hopekook, vmin)

summary:

“Someday, Kookie,” Namjoon began softly, “I wanna buy my own apartment in Seoul. And you'll live there, just you and me. And I'll have a good job, and we can eat as much as we want, and watch as much TV as we want, and sleep in all weekend. We won’t need anyone else.”

Jungkook rolled over, looking up at Namjoon in curiosity. He reached up, fingertips brushing against his cheeks and tucking into the dimples there. “You and me?” Jungkook queries.

“You and me, buddy.”

“Good,” Jungkook nodded, curling into Namjoon for more warmth.

~~~~~

((AKA: The platonic owner-hybrid AU with bun!JK and owner Namjoon that I needed in my life.))

review: SWITCHING. But i still loved it. platonic namkook, I could cry

Reflections in the Glass by Lssimpson999 (E, 41k, namjinkook)

summary:

Jungkook should have told them the first day. He should have told them that he was a hybrid. But Jin's and Namjoon's cuddles were so warm, and their love so sweet.

So, he kept quiet, and said nothing as they continued to love Koo, their bunny.

Or,

The Namjinkook fic with established relationship Namjin, and Bunkoo, who's never known the touch of love

review: STOPPPPPPP anything namjinkook is automatically amazing but this is just...so....FLUFFY. I love this fic and I'm going to give the author a big kiss if they'll let me

Pretty Bows and Lingerie Shows by lilbunlvr95 (E, 40k, namkook))

summary:

Bunny Hybrid Jungkook works at a high-end lingerie boutique when one day they have an unexpected customer, the CEO of leading tech company, Kim Namjoon.

Or, businessman Namjoon wants to buy lingerie for himself and ends up meeting the sweetest, prettiest bun.

review: one word: SEXY.

(gonna make this place our) home by orphan_account (E, 19k, hopekook))

summary:

“You can’t come here. This is my house," the man repeated once Hoseok voiced his confusion. He didn’t look much older than 20, and now the wobble of his lips seemed to be spread through his whole body. “Please go away.”

Sure, it was a house – a house that Hoseok had bought, thank you very much – but in those conditions it wasn’t a place to live at all. The floor was a mess of dust and dry mud, the stairs covered in moss. The man was sure the electricity wasn’t on and the water didn’t run through the pipes, not if the calls he made that morning to request both to start working were valid.

or

hoseok buys an old house to turn into an arts center. homeless hybrid jungkook "lives" there and refuses to go out. life happens.

review: eeeeeeeeeeeeee HOPEKOOK. also JK's sad life is heartbreaking but dw, it gets all better because HOPEKOOK

Meritocracy by Saylilirose (E, 270k, ot7+reader))

summary:

As one of the senior officers in a hybrid rescue, sanctuary, and refuge there is nothing more you live for than to help those that need it. For ages, pure humans put hybrids through hardships, that are finally beginning to be taken away and society is changing for the better. But even now, there is still a lot of work to do to right the wrong.

And that is where you and others come in to play.

review: READER AU (but also ot7) I'll admit, this fic wasn't for me simply because I hate reader au's with a burning passion BUT it's a really good fic for those who are interested In that. I will say it's more ot7-centric than JK centric, too.

Be Somebody by gretaquhe (M, 219k, Taekook)

summary:

Taehyung’s life has finally taken on structured forms. He is no longer homeless, works part-time as an art teacher and has friends he can rely on. However, he also has a strange habit of taking in people in need. One night, he finds a stray bunny hybrid called Jungkook in his trash can and takes him home – unaware of the consequences.

or Asexual Kim Taehyung finds a bunny hybrid in his trash can and chaos ensues.

All the members will appear and play their role in this fic one by one. But it's the slowest of slow burn. So please have mercy.

review: such an amzing fic!! Long but so worth it! I loved getting to see their relationship grow *cry* ft. Asexual Tae

UNREAD

His Sanctuary by RisingStars (M, 142k, yoonkook)

summary:

Yoongi rescues an abused and feral bunny hybrid from an underground slave market.

[Hybrid society. Everyone are hybrids]

notes: Pay attention to the tags for trigger warnings!!)

Didn't See That Coming by BTSot7 (M, 130k)

summary:

Cat hybrid Jimin just wanted to get home to his shared apartment with his younger brother, Jungkook. He liked their quiet and peaceful life. But everything changes after a short run to the grocery store that ends with him being held against the wall by an alpha wolf. An alpha wolf that turns out to be his mate.

Or, Jimin and Jungkook learn what it feels like to have a family again.

notes: Jk has a platonic relationship with everyone, while they have their own relationships with each other since Jungkook is still a high schooler. also ABO

wouldn't it be nice (a life with you) by eurphoribun, ggukkientete (M, 104k, Taekook)

summary:

Recluse Taehyung is eager to leave the city behind and move to the quiet countryside not knowing that his life will change when he meets a cute farmer named Jungkook, and a little bunny named Koo.

Or, Taehyung moves to the countryside and meets a cute farmer named Jungkook who just so happens to also be a bunny hybrid/shapeshifter named Koo.

notes: none.

[denimini]

I do think that too cause the whole conversation and reactions, reflex actions between a actual couples are a bit different than jikook's..yes i do admit that there's moments of jkk where you go "what the fk?" And you simply don't have answer for those reason not something that will fit in a very close friendship too but it's still not equal to an actual couple.

Now i know the topic I'll bring is pretty repetitive but jungkook's reaction when jimin initiates any touching is not something similar to couples. See thing with jungkook is that he only likes physical touch or affection when he initiates it and when other memebrs do it he does not enjoy it that much not all the time but most of the times. When you're actually dating you don't shy away like that over small small things when you have been affectionate with others too. Idk bro that reflex action or response does not give me the vibes that someone who are dating. And I'm saying it that it's not just about jkk jk act like that with other members too but you expect a different reaction to his supposed bf.

Then that time in ptd LV/LA (idr) vminkook live where jm said jk goes to his room three times a day and that jungkook goes to his room more than jimin's manager. Now this says how much close and comfortable jungkook is with jimin and how he seeks out jm more often..but if you're dating why would you say that he comes to your room more than your manager i mean what's surprising in that? Isn't it given thing?

I think about things like this that they said where my mind goes "they wouldn't be saying these things if they were dating". So for me it does seems like there could have been something between them, they might have shared intimate moment here nd there but i don't think they actually ever dated.

I as said here I still believe that at some point in their lives, their relationship crossed the platonic line. Whether that was in the past or is currently true, I only can guess, but to me, there's no way these two were always, all these years, just only friends.

I'm not saying it's impossible they were only ever just friends, but it seems a bit unlikely to me.

I disagree that Jungkook does not like when Jimin is the one initiating the physical contant between them. I believe JK can be a very tactile person but is also introverted , not to mention there are always cameras in their faces. I think he likes that Jimin is touchy with him and may even appreciate that JM has no problem initiating physical contact, because then JK himself doesn't need to try and still gets what he wants (aka Jimin's affection).

In fact, JK himself said once that what he likes about Jimin is his shamelessness. JM asked him then if that makes JK like him and Jungkook could only just nod.

JK may sing about fucking and "leaving you with an afterglow", but he can still get easily shy. In some of those instances, you say he backed off from Jimin, you can just see that it is getting flustered and doesn't know how to react, especially given they fact they are being filmed.

When PTD in Las Vegas was happening, people (taekookers) were once again hating on Jimin and Jungkook's relationship. The reason was that during an IG Q&A someone asked if they could kidnap Jimin, and JK answered something along the lines of "yeah, take him". This was interpreted by taekookers as JK not wanting or caring for JM. I always assumed that Jimin's comments about JK visiting him all the time were meant for those people, to shut them up.

In general, skinship and physical contact are the least of what made Jimin and Jungkook's relationship suspicious to me.

[onlyswan]

my heart is overflowing with the love i have for tannies omg i’m gonna cry i love them sooooo much artemis what do i do 😭❤️‍🩹 so confused now ngl… the more i watch their videos the more i miss them. it almost feels like i want to pull myself back from them for a bit because i’m scared 💀🥲 i never feel this way towards anyone or anything before. art please help your girl out :’) <3

streamed 2 of yoon’s (supposedly) last concerts and this day’s announcement and tae jimin kook being there is my last straw. tbh i really just want to watch yoon’s final concerts in august with a joyful mindset but we all know that they’re going to enlist soon just makes my anxiety go 📈📈📈 and we don’t know what bts gonna bring us to the table.

anywaay how was you weekend? i hope you have a wonderful week my love ♡

-🌷

oh my god i understand tulip anonie i get soooo emotional when i see them that it’s even difficult for me to watch run bts too 😭 and earlier… the fanchant during life goes on!!! and yoongi encouraging the crowd to do it louder!!! with vminkook in the room!!! oh it broke me </3

the encore announcement completely blindsided me i was frozen to my core until the show ended lmao i was already crying about it being the last time and then 🤣 whoever edited this i kinda love you a lot

honestly i’ve been having the mindset of “the earlier they leave, the earlier they come back” 🥲 so i already accepted our fate. and they all seem so excited to reunite on stage soon :((( they must be so nervous and antsy my babies ☹️ i can’t wait for this to be overrrr

my weekend consisted of yoongi and k-dramas so it was good hehe how about you? i hope you have a wonderful week ahead as well my love 💕💕💕

[mimibwi]

I'm not talking about members hanging out together or mentioning each other! I'm talking about how recently BH has been pushing tkk and ynm in OFFICIAL content!!

busan promotion, las vegas promotion, hs concert, group vlive where jk is wearing the blue jacket, game of money video, festa photoshoot, yoonmin show guests...

Companies only care about money >> money came from army >> most army are tkk and ynm shippers >> hence why BH is pairing them up!

Hi anon!

If I’m being honest, I forgot about a huge chunk of all of this or didn’t find it important to mention last time. Either way, my views remain pretty much unchanged. I don’t want to keep responding to you with paragraphs but I ramble a lot so bear with me😬. I genuinely don’t think taekook, yoonmin or any other ship for that matter is specifically “pushed” by BH. Like I mentioned in the last answer, many ships get paired together, like in some of the subunits you mentioned above, so i don’t see any particular favorites being pushed by BH when I look at the content as a whole. So all ships get their time and that’s evident because all ships have their shippers. They all switch around between units at times and if I’m being honest, I don’t see Taekook very often. Maybe it’s because I get distracted by other things happening, I also have my biases when watching BTS content. And (as I mentioned in my last post) if you focus on Taekook you’ll obviously see when Taekook are paired and not when other duos are despite others being paired more often than them.

I tried to quickly think and search for times when BTS broke down into smaller groups just to see. Although this definitely isn’t everything, I think this ensemble of pictures proves what I want to bring across.

These lives show a ton of different duos and trios, some of which even repeat but i didn’t see people calling namjin or yoonjin “pushed”. Why is it different for Taekook?

Another reason it’s hard for me to jump to the “x ship is pushed” thing is because i’m not sure how things happen behind the scenes. Do the members choose or does the staff tell them who to go on live with? And if so do they choose every time or does the staff tell them every time? There are too many unknowns. The live you brought up was done with the remaining members after namgimin had a live about 2 weeks before. At that point Tae was sick so he obviously couldn’t be placed in that unit, it made sense he did it with the others when he came back to work. I don’t know how the namgimin live was decided on but the one you mentioned seems to be a by-product of that one. I’m going on a slight tangent but I’d say vminhopekook’s lives are usually of their choosing and I remember them saying in the Busan(?) one that those who aren’t there would go live with Jimin because he brought up he was visiting us once a week and he wanted guests. Although those lives didn’t happen, it proves that the guys talk and choose who wants to or should go live with who so it’s hard for me to use lives and certain other content as a proof of BH’s influence since I don’t know who’s decision it was.

For some other content, I can agree with you that BH are most likely the ones choosing subunits but that’s exactly what I see them as, SUBUNITS. They switch around these all the time as well. No one is counting how many times namjin or sope or namkook are paired up so why is it done to Taekook, Yoonmin and Jikook so often. I don't even think these ships, despite having the 3 biggest shipper fandoms are seen much in duos/trios that often. Personally, if I was BH and just wanted to drain ARMYs for money, I'd put vminkook in and on everything but they don't. I am not even trying to be a company stan or anything lol, I am just looking at it from the most realistic lens I can. So while they have certain duos and trios they like for certain content, I still don’t think it’s done with the intention to trick ARMYs who like those ships into spending money. If we're going by the "pushing for money" narrative, vmin and namjin must be the biggest money-making duos because BH loves these two pairings for ads and endorsements. I hope I’m not giving anyone any ideas for y’all to start saying namjin and vmin are being pushed now lmao— LEAVE THEM ALONE!!😭😭 Don’t get me wrong other subunits do ads too, it’s just hard to sit and compare. I don't think the reason certain members are paired for certain content is that serious— maybe it’s just about chemistry and which pairings will fit which concepts or ads well.

This is an honest question, though. Has certain duos being in promotional content made you want to buy the product more? Like they're all over Coway ads and I still don't know what Coway sells. Mattresses? water purifiers?? Ice makers?

Not an ad but...

I've bombarded you with pictures, sorry but I'm having fun lol. I'll try to wrap up quickly.

You brought up "hs concert" which I assume means Harry Styles? It's not official and I can't and won't comment because I don't know why they attended the concerts in the groups they did, both in 2021 and 2023. Seems like they had fun though. Good for them. Not sure which FESTA you're talking about but all they did was touch each other in that 2023 video so... Also Jimin was basically scenting Hobi in that video and I didn't see jihope being pushed allegations. I saw the opposite in fact. It just shows how hypocritical it is because jihope has been one of the most active duos this past year or so. Finally, yoonmin doing the show together makes sense as Jimin was ending his promotions and Yoongi was starting. I didn't expect Tae to go with Yoongi or Jk to go with Jimin as they didn't have any work to publicly promote at that time.

So, all in all, I don't think there's any hidden motives. Every ship has their time and every ship does their thing, maybe some more than others but the difference isn’t drastic enough for me to pinpoint any clear agenda to push one or two ships in particular. And most ARMYs (non-shippers & OT7 non-toxic shippers) will eat up anything because all the boys have their own unique chemistry. So I guess in a way every ship is pushed😆 and the ones that stand out to you will obviously be the ones you look out most for. I can’t begin to discuss how our biases and own perspectives affect the way the content comes across because it really does and as a shipper, it’s important to be aware of it.

Thanks for the ask anon! I had a lot of fun finding these pictures:))

~~🐝

The purpose of my answer (and all my posts tbh) isn’t to throw any pair under the bus or make others seem better. It shouldn’t and I hope it doesn’t come across that way. All I want to do is be a small voice of reason and hopefully show some shippers that a lot of their theories come of hypocritical when they compare some duos but not others, not that any should be compared in the first place.

[theangryjikooker]

gosh i hate to further call attention to anon but my timeline is a mess despite my meticulous curation but something that genuinely irks me—to a degree that pushed me into sliding into your inbox, im sorry—is how these people completely ignore the existence of v and jimin’s relationship? im not bringing anything new to the table w this but it’s crazy that whoever between jm and v interacts with jk “”more”” is the reigning boyfriend but god forbid v and jm might have anything beyond <<Platonic>> Soulmates. and even if we took a step back from romantic shipping—this whole ship war whatever nEver takes into account v and jimin’s relationship. everything about them and their interactions are omitted. they dont exist beyond orbiting the center if this shitstorm: jk (to no fault of his). its not revolutionary but if we’re going off anon’s logic, it’s relevant.

im really weirded out by this one-minded, tunnel vision whatever the fuck (am i allowed to swear? apologies) thing going on thats growing Exponentially in this fandom (at present) that This interaction Equals This Conclusion, no exceptions. no action is inherently anything until the ppl involve make it something. vibing at a concert isnt inherently romantic. people kiss and fuck ppl they Dont have romantic feelings for. ppl are ppl and ppl do things. i know this is coming off rlly redundant bc shipping is part of fandom culture and things escalating is kind of,, inevitable,, but must the majority go out of their way to behave like children on the cusp of learning social norms and cues for the first time? its awfully pitiable.

sorry for the word vomit and thank you for the really well written response to anon. i genuinely really appreciated that.

Disclaimer: When I refer to Jkkrs/Tkkrs in a less than savory light, I’m exclusively talking about the batshit insane ones. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

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Hi, anon!

Rambling is okay here and so is cursing! You would have to have the patience of a saint to not curse in this hellscape I hate so much to love (I only do this for Jikook, I swear).

I think the reason why Vmin gets pushed to the side is because they're not really a "threat," which is stupid as hell, because if anyone depicts a true sense of what love can look like, it's Vmin. I only wish I had been drawn to Vmin from the start because they're drama-free for the most part. And I think if there was any drama, it never gets quite so hostile. I wouldn't know for sure, but the Vmin fandom seems to be having a fantastic time minding their own business.

But that in itself says a lot, doesn't it? The common denominator is Jungkook, and there's an inherent, unsaid claim to him. He's kind of the reason why there's such an intensity with weirdo Jkkrs and Tkkrs. I'm not pointing fingers and I'm not saying this is a widespread case, but Jimin and Taehyung are convenient modes to self-insert. Fact of the matter is--and anyone can deny this all they want to kingdom come--but we know Jungkook is HOT HOT HOT, and his appearance has A LOT, if not everything, to do with why some Jkkrs and Tkkrs get so stabby about Jungkook looking like he's closer to Jimin or Taehyung.

Have you ever been in or seen a real love triangle play out in real life? That's all primal instincts at work; your animal brain will bare its teeth and not let you think yourself rationally out of it.

Vminkook is the formidable love triangle that never dies, with Jungkook stuck in the middle. I would have to enact a formal study to say anything with certainty, so take this WITH A GRAIN OF SALT (a.k.a. I'm talking out of my ass and I know it), but my hypothesis has always been that Jungkook is the object of everyone's collective affections, and one's preference for Taehyung or Jimin is dependent on how much you see yourself in them/how much you can relate to them. This could also work in reverse where Jungkook is the one you feel the most connection to, and Taehyung or Jimin are the ones that stir up those primal emotions in you.

The only difference between a sane vs. toxic shipper in this case, however, is how far they take it. Some people take things WAY too personally one way or another, which only cements my belief that something more psychological is in effect as opposed to it being purely for entertainment.

So... heh, sorry, got carried away there. But back to your point, the only reason why Vmin gets ignored is because Jungkook isn't involved.

[tsingadark]

BTS Fic Rec

I haven’t done a fic rec post in forever and since I recently participated in a bts comment bingo on twitter, I thought it might be nice to rec the fics here too

Yoonkook

the call of the moon by softlyblue M | 134k | AU | Yoongi looks to the treeline, and he can still see Jeongguk standing there, staring at him. He wants to run. He wants to hide. He wishes he had never come here. But when he looks up, Jeongguk is still looking back. When Yoongi Min, acclaimed writer and cat dad, moves to rural Ireland to work on his second novel, the last thing he expects is to bump into Jeongguk Jeon, denizen of the forest and out-and-out weirdo. But the coincidences keep stacking up, and he can't help but feel there's something more sinister going on under the surface, if only he could figure out who - or what - is going bump in the night.

the last cinetown in seoul by twomblying T | 44k | AU | He thinks about Jungkook, glowing blue where his dark curls were backlit by the TV monitor, grinning up at him on the floor of the studio. He thinks about Jungkook smiling earnestly at him across the cafe table, and thinks he might be totally fucked. Thinks that’s a problem for future Min Yoongi, once the film screening is over and Cinetown has made it to survive another month. He’ll think about it, the Jeon Jungkook of it all, then. (Min Yoongi is just trying his best to keep a dying video store franchise afloat. Jeon Jungkook is a film student who makes experimental short films. They fall in love.)

all our wants by lichtweh E | 10k | Canon | sequel to wide awake | yoongi and jungkook, a hotel room in hong kong, and there was only one bed. that’s how it started, and then, from there— (wide awake: a continuation.)

[yoonkook au] by taehyikes where yoongi decides to rent a cabin in the mountains to work on his next novel, and jungkook runs the general store in a nearby village

Wine by SugarAndMint M | 10k | AU | Jungkook drinks a bit too much and possibly, definitely, confesses his romantic feelings for his best friend who definitely, definitely, does not share the same feelings. ...unless?

it's only ever love (it's only ever trying to be loved) by ahemyg (fear_of_god) T | 6.9k | AU | as much as yoongi would love to continue talking to his new neighbor with the nice smile, he couldn’t afford to miss class. “it was nice meeting you, jungkook-ah. i have class, so i’ll see you later.” jungkook waved. “bye, hyung. it was great meeting you. maybe i’ll meet your roommates later.” yoongi felt his heart skip a full two beats. not in the oh-my-god-he’s-so-cute way. more like fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck-he-heard-me-talking-to-my-ghosts kind of way. “i-i don’t have roommates, jungkook-ah.” a crease appeared between jungkook’s eyebrows. “oh, my mistake, hyung. I thought i heard you talking to someone. not that i was eavesdropping! the walls are thin, and-” “it’s alright, jungkook. don’t worry about it. i was just talking to… my goldfish on the phone.” min yoongi. gay panic extraordinaire. (one where yoongi can talk to ghosts. jungkook is the new neighbor and chaos ensues when five ghosts try to set them up)

bee-witched by rabbitsparty G | 3.5k | AU | the one where a bee doesn't bee-have and go along with jeongguk's plans for the day

did you see by xiajin T | 1.8k | AU | jungkook kisses him and tastes blood on his tongue. “who have you been killing?” he asks, joking, but yoongi presses his thumb against jungkook’s jaw and his pointer on the soft pad of his cheeks, pressing lightly, so his mouth is pursed. jungkook stares, eyes wide, and yoongi licks his lips before kissing the pout before him. he tastes like blood. in it, jungkook finds his answer, unsaid: myself. 

Namkook

#CompletelyUnexpectedTrueIdentity by Mother of Pearl (Jinjuui_eomeoni) E | 97k | AU | Jungkook doesn't see any problem with roleplaying whatever kind of character he wants, including a princess. Nobody on the internet is ever who they say they are. Namjoon knows his new roleplay partner Jungsoon isn't really a runaway princess. That's just a game, but it gets real when he starts to fall for her. It doesn't matter that they've never met irl. His gut tells him he knows everything he needs to about the real girl behind the character.

Infel by natanije M | 6.9k | AU | He is like the breath of fresh air in this otherwise polluted surface. He is like sweet laughter and pretty smiles, warm hands and even warmer embrace. He’s like a new world, an entirely new island for him to explore and figure out, something fresh and bright, something special. He wants all of him, not in the sense that he’s known his whole life. It’s another thing altogether, it’s infel.

Where the Sky Meets the Sea by skylightgalaxy E | 47k | AU | Jeongguk’s winter getaway takes a sudden turn into new territory when he meets an alpha on the train — the first alpha he’s ever met. Instead of the quiet and cozy art filled winter holiday he had planned, Jeongguk learns more about himself and a world he thought he could never be a part of.

Jinkook

What Happens In Vegas Does Not Stay In Vegas by memeingfully_slytherin M | 36k | AU | It's simply a part of life. One day you're running your business, partially recovering from your ex; the next day you accidentally marry your best friend. Seokjin doesn't know about anyone else, but he thinks it's very on-brand for Jungkook and him. [or, Seokjin goes to Vegas for business, Jungkook accompanies him for a free trip and they both come back to Korea accidentally married. And stay accidentally in love.]

cheeto dust by literallies T | 4.3k | AU | It's the night of Jungkook's engagement party. In the quiet moments, when there are no eyes on him, he lets himself think about his first love. If he's honest with himself, he is always thinking about his first love.

taaffeite moths by nonheather E | 127k | AU | Rising star Kim Seokjin and former child actor fresh out of rehab Jeon Jeongguk are assigned by their entertainment companies to fake a relationship in order to build a more positive public image. But will the gimmick only make their image worse?

pirate!seokjin and mer!koo who brings him treasure by jeonthebun

jinkook have a fun amusement park date and seokjin learns to love roller coasters by jeonthebun

seokjin and jungkook work on a very important painting project together by jeonthebun

Jikook

rough hands by jonghyunslisterine M | 31k | AU | when jimin's pack is attacked by an enemy clan, he finds himself on the run with the rogue alpha his pack had taken prisoner just days before.

Minjoon

a clear glass bead (won't break that easily) by hammersandstrings M | 85k | AU | Maybe Jimin’s spent her life chasing some kind of mythical fate, rather than following her own instincts. And maybe those instincts are pulling her towards Namjoo, yes, but also towards herself. Towards a Jimin who’s learning who she is, bit by bit, more and more. Maybe serendipity has been less about finding someone else when she’d been least expecting it, and more about finding herself when she thought there was nothing left to find. (Or, Jimin breaks up with her boyfriend, stumbles upon a family of her own, and maybe falls in love along the way.)

Namgi

i wrote these for you by buffcooky E | 41k | AU | Kim Namjoon never thought he would be a father, let alone fall headfirst into endless pining over his son's daycare teacher, Min Yoongi. And yet... here he is. Doing exactly that.

Yoonjin

Ribcage Refrain by smashthatlikebutton T | 22k | Canon | 3/4 | A month before debut, Seokjin wakes up in Yoongi's body. After they switch back, they don't speak about it for seven years. or The one where Yoongi and Seokjin are soulmates, but Bangtan comes first. Until it doesn’t need to.

Vminkook

bloom by automaticshine E | 15k | Canon | Jungkook doesn't think of himself as ace — he just assumes the rest of the band is as disinterested in sex as he is. But one night, during a lull after 4th Muster, Jin comes home from a club in Gangnam with a girl, and Jungkook realizes he's wrong. Or, Jungkook discovers his asexuality the hard way, featuring ultimately non-sexual maknae line OT3.

Taegikook

heaven in your eyes by zyr (pxssnelke) T | 1.9k | AU |  “We wanted to ask if you’d let us do your make up? And maybe dress you up a bit, too? Just for fun, maybe take some pictures of it?” Jungkook asks, voice soft and close. So Yoongi resigns himself to staying awake a little while longer. Thinks of his bed and his pillow and his blanket and the darkness that sleep brings and then lets it go. “Okay,” he says with a smile.

OT7

like morning glories by smashthatlikebutton G | 2.2k | AU | Mornings like this often feel a bit surreal in their beauty. Like Namjoon isn't entirely sure how they got here. The seven of them in their house by the sea; warm and safe and together.

[kanmom51]

First namjin, then sope, and then… oh god, I almost do not want a 🐯🐥🐰 vlive… Please Hybe, give us a 🐯🐥 live, or a 🐯🐰 one… Or even a 🐥🐰 live (if you dare). But by putting the maknae line together in a live feels like a set up… Just thinking about it makes me anxious bc I know it’ll be a mess in the comments with mostly JM getting a sh!t ton of hate. International fans don’t know how to behave, and with the hate he gets on the daily on twitter for being a homewrecker or whatever those idiots think he is… I just know it’ll be bad. I know he’s a grown man but having a vlive with the maknae line specifically feels like a set up for him to get even more heat from delulu shippers. Sigh… I remember him making a face when he saw a comment in one of their recent ot7 vlives, still don’t know what that was about but I can guess as he looked sad to read whatever was written there. At this point i’d rather those delulu idiots got their subunit/vlive/whatever else they want from TK instead of hybe setting JM up to get direct hate thrown at him like this. It’s bad enough the amount of terrible things they say about him on social media just because his members love him, sigh… If this fandom didn’t hate him as much as they do I wouldn’t mind getting that live bc I love all their interactions with each other (some more than others but that’s beside the point), however these people clearly don’t. They don’t appreciate him and they blame him for being himself. It makes me so angry. He does not deserve to be constantly treated like this you know? I love 🐥🐰‘s relationship but not at the expense of either of them getting tons of hate bc of it. This was more of a rant, sorry for coming here to talk about this but I found your blog a month ago and I really enjoy reading your thoughts.

Ask 2:

This is the first time I've ever been scared for the thought of a Vminkook live and its because of the hate that's been non stop piled on JM for the last couple of months. Its always been bad, but this take the cake how he's been treated this whole Butter Era. I know that Vminkook live is gonna be a disaster for him. The comment section will be TK flooded. Since TK have no problem saying their unit name, odds are, they will say it with JM there and that's gonna create a firestorm. I'm not ready.

Ask 3:

I hope and praying for a vmin, jk already did one and probably he might do a solo one on his birthday. I don't want a jkk one neither a vminkook one, because those will only bring jm hate. especially a vminkook one. as that anon said, th might start touching or flirting with jk OR jm, and it would be hell. I'm already on rest on twt because these days are pure hell there, imagine what would happen.

Ask 4:

i really dont want a vminkook live, i just know its gonna be used against jimin when tk interacts and hes gonna get called thirdwheel or names again especially considering how touchy tk are with each other and how jk looks cold while interacting with jimin these days

I know where you are all coming from. I really do. I too am sick of the hate JM keeps getting.

But we have to stop thinking this way. To let the toxic part of the fandom win, in a way. Letting them have what they want because otherwise they will attack (figuratively). It's kind of giving into blackmail or letting a bully win.

Wouldn't leaving JM out of specific content be letting them win at their own game?

Instead of wishing for JM not to be together with the two people he loves most, and for us to be able to enjoy their interactions, we should be on our keyboards fighting back. Every bad hurtful comment should be followed by a positive loving one. Every bad hateful Twitter post should be reported and followed by posts filled with love and appreciation for JM, same on Weverse or any other social media platform.

The bullying hate filled behaviour towards JM will always be there. It would be naïve to think that him not being in the live would prevent any kind of hate towards him. The haters will find a reason to hate him whatever happens. If there is a Vmin live, there will be hate in comments. If there is a TKK live they will find a way to insert hate against JM in the comments (and you think JM won't be watching that live even if he's not in it?). We saw that the hate was there even in a BTS live with all of the members.

Let's be realistic. If indeed Sope are up next, then the week after - JK's birthday - the likelihood is for a Vminkook live (remember JK piping up asking "what about my birthday?").

I say brace yourselves. Instead of allowing those shits (yes, they are true shits, not afraid to say it) to get to you, fight back, just like I said. Show JM how much love is out there for him. Show him that there is more love and support for him than hate.

[ladyc0312]

A Jikook Guide to the Be.T.S. Live

Finally getting to watch this and I seem to be incapable of consuming any BTS content without taking notes, so I figured I might as well share these in case they’re of any interest. (Also, I haven’t given up on finishing the Run episodes guide, progress has just been slow because of a combo of personal stuff and the fic I’m working on.)

FYI, the questions I ask aren’t rhetorical - would love to hear thoughts if you have them!

0:00 - I know eye-lines are tough to figure out sometimes, but it does appear like this starts out with JM staring at JK, right? 

2:36 - Do people seriously believe these guys all still live together? To me, there is such a clear vibe of friends / colleagues catching up after it’s been a minute. There’s only one person who makes a comment about how they know someone hasn’t been exercising so much but does it hard whenever they do, and no points for guessing who that is. JM also keeps his hand on JK’s shoulder the entire exchange. 

5:48 - The table and stuff on it are arranged in such a way that you can’t always tell where people’s hands are. I may be writing my own fan fiction here, but I found myself wondering if Jimin’s right hand being potentially on JK’s left knee might have anything to do with him calming down a little from the intense fidgeting he’d been doing prior...

6:13 - JK does not appear at all bored which playing around pushing down Jimin’s shoulders one by one after Jimin complains about holding them up too high. 

8:35 - More fanfiction, or does JM touch JK’s leg briefly after the convo he sparked about Jin and Tae being the most handsome members? 

9:42 - After Jimin gives V the fortune cookie telling him it’s for the most handsome guy in the world, he then jokingly tells him to hand it over to JK. 

10:02 - JM strokes JK’s cheek when JK finishes singing. 

17:19 - Vminkook moment where both Tae and JM rub JK’s shoulders as the group discusses the five JKs vs 5-yr-old JK question they’ve all been getting. 

17:51 - When they switch the above question to JM, JK picks 5 Jimins. RM asks him why, and he says he thinks it’d be fun, and JM ducks his head while RM laughs in a way that seems entirely out of proportion with how amusing that line is (unless he’s thinking of a different type of fun JK could be referring to...). JK quickly clarifies that he thinks they’d all make them laugh. 

18:18 - JM says he’d pick 5-yr-old JK because none of the five would do work, which is such a bf comment, no? 

19:56 - When the  guys are discussing poking your cheek while closing an eye, JM pokes JK’s cheek. 

21:56 - Really curious if anyone has more insight on the translation here? It seems like someone asks if all seven of them are living together and the guys avoid the question by responding as if they question is whether they are living. If that’s accurate, seems to support the point about about them not pretending to live together anymore. But it also might just be a weird translation thing...

24:35 - Is it just me, or does JM direct his “airplane noise” bit at JK? Also, JK totally called him out on having come up with it beforehand. 

24:58 - Okay, Jimin’s hand is def on JK’s knee / thigh here. 

26:00 - JK calls JM out again, this time for the shoulder reveal in the BE photo shoot. I’m side-eyeing Jimin's claim that he always reveals his left shoulder because it’s “narrower” so things “slip” off. 

30:28 - Is JM gesturing at JK when he saws VLive is something you can do together? 

30:46 - JM’s hand is on JK’s thigh again. I feel obligated to point out that this isn’t super significant on it’s own because it’s fairly normal skinship between the guys, but mentioning it as part of a larger pattern here. 

33:36 - JM puts his hand on JK’s shoulder while talking about his sketch of J-Hope. 

34:10 - JM touches JK’s chest / shoulder when he says he won’t talk to him at work anymore if he doesn’t also get a sketch on his bday. 

34:32 - JM touches JK’s chest again and then holds his hand as he promises on JK’s behalf that JK will draw a Bang PD sketch if they get over 8 million viewers. 

34:52 - JK and JM have a whole flirty exchange about how JK is going to choose the pictures he bases his sketches of the members off of. 

35:08 - JM seems to be feeling really touchy in this, because he goes from holding JK’s knee / thigh to patting his chest again, then his shoulder, then he puts his hand on JK’s shoulder again and keeps it there for a while before bringing it back to his leg.

35:37 - The look JK gives JM here is adorable. 

37:45 - After Yoongi calls JK out for swaying a bunch, Jimin rubs JK’s arm. He then shakes JK’s hand when JK finishes his ment. 

39:15 - Jikook seem to have some little exchange here that’s we’re not privy to. 

39:50 - This seems to be another subtle inside joke between the two. 

40:40 - JM has his hands on both of JK’s shoulders when they all get into position for the final shot. 

This was even more jikook-y than I’d been expecting having seen some of the clips! Hope you guys enjoyed as much as I did. 🥰

[dearweirdme]

"You feel shippers only love Jk because of his presummed relationships," is exactly the point I am trying to make. Thank you. "Your comment about Tae not speaking out agains hate to Jk is not really tied to them being in a relationship or not." I know Taehyung cares for Jk. "Believe me, but most people understand that Tae cannot adress Jk hate like that," when I was quoting that I was referring to the hypocrisy. I don't need Taehyung to acknowledge what Jk is going through but shippers need Jk to show the camera every chance he gets that he cares for Taehyung or he really doesn't care for Taehyung. Jk needs to acknowledge Taehyung or else he doesn't care about him. Which brings me back to my first point is that shippers don't care about JK unless it is related to their ship, not him as a musician and person with feelings of his own.

Hi again!

I actually think we’re in agreement. And thank you for this conversation, because it isn’t discussed much. In general I get more asks about Tae. I’m slightly Tae biased, and he has been more controversial recently.. so that’s probably why. I love Jk to pieces too though, and I will make sure to point out the unfairness more.

I think Jk is just being Jk in his lives. He’s hilarious at times, he just shares what he wants to in the moment and he doesn’t go along with what shippers ask of him. Jk is way more than his relationship with the people around him. He’s such an interesting person and I understand how to you shippers focussing on details and analyzing his lives from a shipper point of view takes away from his individuality. I must say I’ve even felt like this a bit after Yoongi’s show… it was all about vminkook when it should have been about yoongi.

As a shipper, it is a tough balance to keep. I am a Taekook blog so my conversations on here focus on that mostly. I do my solo appreciation in private (I’ve been listening to Yoongi’s music a lot for instance, yet I haven’t shared that much). But I will keep this conversation in mind, and if possible (and without things getting toxic) I will talk about things like this.

[stormblessed95]

Hello, I found your blog and I would like to know your opinion (English is not my native language, sorry if there are errors). I was reading some of your posts, I don't know if you already addressed this. It's something that's on my mind. I don't consider myself a shipper, but I do think that Jimin and Jungkook have a relationship beyond friendship ♡ I avoid associating with or following jkkrs not bc I don't believe in jikook but bc fighting with other shippers affects me. I am Jimin biased and insults towards him really hurt me. It's not that JK/Tae doesn't receive them and doesn't bother me, but that they show themselves differently towards hate. Jimin became more and more reserved, away from social media. And his words still resonate in my mind in Seoul PTD "I don't do / don't like fanservise" It is obvious that he must have read something, it's not a random phrase. A lot of the hate that Tae is receiving from jkkrs or pjms towards Tae/JK is because they blame them, and I won't deny I also started to get annoyed. That was another sign that I stayed away from jkkrs. My ground wire is that if Jimin isn't distant towards them why should I get mad? I trust him. My question is why not put a brake? I understand it's not their responsibility to educate the fans, but wouldn't we prevent a lot of what happens if they told these people to stop? From my point of view Vminkook should bring this up to the fans. It's a snowball that's been growing, and it doesn't seem to be ending anytime soon </3 The fact that they're not distant is a good indication that it does not affect them too much, but it worries me that many shippers are crossing limits. Harassing people like what happened with Tae and model from Paris or Polyc, tattoo artist. Am I insane for thinking so??

Yes. It is bad to put the responsibility of insane cultists or horrible shippers on the members. That's not their Job, not their responsibility and if people LISTENED to what the members SAY, then they've said and done all they should need to do. Why continue to waste their own time, and sacrifice their own mental health, for people who twist their words and call them lairs no matter what. @minggukieology posted a good break down of shipping and shipper mentality earlier today here too that someone what relates

This whole discourse is the epitome of victim blaming. Tae and JK and Jimin have been very clear about their relationships together and what they mean to each other and how they love each other and even how they grew apart and back together, all 3 have addresssed how theyve grown and changed over the years. Tae even HAS addressed it when someone confronted him directly with it. Why are you blaming THEM when people choose not to listen. It's giving "well what were you wearing?" "Are you sure you weren't asking for it?" Energy. It's not THEIR fault when rabid fans decide to harrass someone. You saw you trust them, so do that. And stop placing expectations on them to control shippers who don't actually give a fuck about the members or what they do or say. Because those shippers, who spread hatred? They just call the members liars and will always twist the narrative into whatever story pleases THEM the most. They see the members as characters in a story they want to control, rather than real life human beings who have more important things to do in their lives than address people they don't even Consider fans. Like hang out together with the friends and enjoy their life. And let the haters scream into the void and make themselves miserable. They don't owe anyone anything. And if you think that if Tae and JK and Jimin all held a press conference and said something like telling shippers to stop and that they aren't dating and that jikook are or aren't in love or all 3 have gfs or bfs outside the group or whatever, that it would actually work? You are deluding yourself. They would be called liars again, or forced by the company, or hiding to protect themselves. It wouldn't work. So why give these hateful people their mental vulnerability and energy? Wouldn't it be better to just live their lives the way they want and protect themselves that way and give each other the love THEY know is true?

Everyone who keeps demanding this from the guys has never actually thought through how it would go and is more concerned about THEIR OWN PERSONAL well being in fandom space (which they can currate) rather than the members personal well being and mental health in their own lives. Which I'm sure they do what they do to protect that and live as well as they can at the height of fame they are. You want them to address this because it will make YOU (general you) feel better in your fandom experience and your life, not because it will make vminkook feel better or make their (or the other members) lives easier.

[nightswithkookmin]

Was Jk shading Taehyung during his New Years wishes to him at GDA? Twitter people are reading a LOT into it, saying that Jk is still salty at Tae and vice versa. They seem pretty chill to me. Why do people always find reasons to believe there is Vminkook drama?Is there a reason to think they aren't repairing their freindship?

VMINKOOK...

First of all, why would JK shade Taehyung? What are they fighting about, I wonder. Has anyone known JK to be the passive aggressive king slash shade throwing one in that trio? Because, not me...

I don't see him as the, 'those two are hanging out now followed by a slight head tilt,' kind of person. The 'Jimin wants to come but JK is keeping him from coming,' the 'well, you ignore me anyway so I couldn't tell you were on a mission' kind.

Or even the, 'my friendship relationships are gold to me and it's important for me to nurture those connections' knowing damn well the elephant in the room has a possessive streak and he himself has been on record, allegedly, stating he has one same age friend and all his friends are hyungs- so what is JK to you then Jimin?

Then the whole, 'texting is not a great way to build connections and is a barrier to effective communication' -words spewed in full cognizance of the fact JK is a bad texter yet prefers texting to talking on phone anyway- that is what I call shade. Not sure what was in the water that day, but chilee Jimin was all over the place in that Be Behind video. Lmho.

I think everyone, including even the semi-rational Tuktukker, know damn well what JK meant by that statement and what had prompted it- but leave it to them to circumvent.

Ah, V hyung... we used to have a special bond. When we were trainees, we had such great chemistry. V used to be the easiest hyung to talk to, now it's awkward.

Where is the shade in this? I don't think at all that he is or was in anyway shading Tae or any one. To shade would imply he has stock. He don't.

I hate when people talk about Tae Kook as if there is something wrong with their bond. There isn't. It is what it is. It's just not what their shoppers make it out to be. They are looking for depth where there is none. The fact of the matter is Tae Kook lacks depth to their dynamics. We know it, JK knows it, BigHit knows it. No amount of bullying Jimin or Jokers will add that missing depth back to their relationship. Sorry.

'He is still salty,' honey he was never salty about anything to begin with. They tried it! Making it sound like JK wants Tae to change in order to relate with him again. He don't.

Why would JK be salty about Tae's growth? Why would he object to Tae's growth?

Because that's what it is. This whole Tae Kook tensions is not about them fighting, it's about them growing apart. Tae grew the fuck up and JK can't relate with him or treat him the way he used to when they were young.

And if these self absorbed, legally blind shoppers looked beyond Tae Kook for a second, they will know it's not just JK complaining about Tae changing and becoming different as he grew up.

Tae used to be the easiest hyung to talk to and bully because they were closer in age and Tae allowed for such familiarity between them. Similar to how, Jin and Jimin allows for a certain degree of familiarity and informality between them and Jk.

While Tae allowed and was open to this level of closeness and informality between them, JK apparently held on to the gates, only scraping the surface of it and inhibiting the depth that could have been to their dynamics.

Was Tae content with that dynamic? No. Did he communicate that to JK? May be he did but JK wouldn't let his guards down. Tae failed to breach JK's emotional boundaries and years later he would express this sentiment openly to JK in their conversation in Soop.

Whereas, JK admitted to Jimin's successful breach of his emotional walls when he recounted the story of their rainy day fight- let me not hear any one compare Jikook to any of JK's ship in BTS, I whoop your ass. D!

This is the intimacy that is missing in Tae Kook. When you are close to someone, you not only feel at ease with them enough to express your thoughts freely with them, you are comfortable enough with them to be yourself, be different, to antagonize them without the fear that your differences and outbursts will sever your bond or lead to irreparable damage to your bond.

Fact is, in as much as JK felt close to Tae in the early days, he harbored a fear that being fully himself enough to be 'opinionated' and fully honest in his self expressions towards him, would break their bond.

He clearly didn't trust their bond was strong enough to handle all of that. That's the intimacy you find in Jikook. The trust. They are both unapologetically themselves with eachother because they trust in their bond.

Which means they share a lot but are also very opinionated with eachother, clash and assert themselves with eachother. And I know the kumbaya fake woke Jokers hate to hear it, but Jikook are strong not because they don't fight but because their bond withstands the test of a fight as Tae explained in his conversation with JK in Soop.

He was able to get closer with Jimin and Jin by being openly assertive with them- going against Jimin in the dumpling incident and all the times they fought, directly confrontational with Jin over their dance choreo but with JK he had always been scared to open himself in that way with him for whatever reason- I won't bother speculating on. It's their ship, they should do the maths.

May be he learned his lesson. He's learned not to fear conflict, to be assertive without fearing he would be punished for it, to be less passive aggressive as he was before and express himself and his feelings more openly over the years.

But it took him closing himself off to get there. Always looking in photos as if Yeontan ate the last brisket. Exuding melancholic vibes.

Young Jk equally didn't have a positive view on conflict and conflict resolution and I think he knew his place as the youngest and did not want to be as opinionated or assertive against them and so, as he explained to Tae in Soop, he opted to keep a safe distance emotionally from everyone- not just Tae.

When JK talks about we used to have a special bond, all he means is they used to be mischievous, get in trouble together, be brats, chat shit under their breaths behind their hyungs- partners in crime and as I like to call them, be the evil power duo of BTS.

They literally shared one brain cell lol, and conspired a lot. Their bond was unique only in that Tae was a rebel at heart and a bit innocent or immature as RM and the others would say.

Ship wise, Tae used to be on his side. He was protective of him and and looked out for him when they were young- that's of course before he started passive aggressively exposing JK's relationship with Jimin on VLives, incessantly shipping Jimin with Suga, dragging JK's ass away from JM's car so he could ride with him and all of those harmless moments that to anyone with little understanding of Tae's character would assume Tae didn't support JK's relationship.

And even after Soop, he put JK on the spot when he tried eye fucking Jimin through the view finder during their dynamite MV- he knew what JK was going to do. He's seen him do that a countless times to Jimin- HE KNOWS.

There is a reason JK gave him that look in the Dynamite shoot interview when he thought Tae was intentionally trying to expose him holding hands with Jimin behind Suga.

As much as these little things may be irritating to Kook, I don't think Tae gotta kiss his ass too. Jk can be messy sometimes with his Jikook agenda.

Of course they dynamic would change if Tae changed too- which is what Jimin and everyone says of Taehyung. He is very reserved and mature now. He is not the same childish, immature, reckless teen JK or Tuktukkers used to know.

He grew faster than either JK or JM had hoped and they both miss that part of him. Tae said he wished he could get a time machine and show Army the 'Chimchar' he was back in the day. The only way Taekook can be real is if we all hop into a time machine and go back in time to change the trajectory of events.

Tuktukkers need to let go of their old ship, that ship is dead and embrace the new ship brewing in its stead.

Jimin have said occasionally, that side of Tae pops out but he is very different from who he used to be when they were young. Which explains these outbursts of moments and interactions reminiscent of their past bond but that's all that is.

Why do these people insist on infantilizing Tae and holding him to his past?

That comment at GDA wasn't shade. But it was an inside Joke I feel. Like I said, when JK talks about their past history and bond, to me it's reference to a time period where Tae was on his side and was mischievous. To me it's code for 'I miss when you were less uptight and strict.'

He brought up when Tae gave them leeway and was lenient with their schedule during the making of Be- a sentiment all the members expressed in the Be behind video when they praised Tae for giving them much room in their schedules.

It was the same thing he said during his speech to Tae at GDA after bringing up the whole past bond thingy. He wanted to express appreciation to Tae perhaps because the loose schedule Tae had created had given him much time to go home and give his man a blowjob or go house shopping with him- who knows.

The way he kept looking at Jimin while saying that... yea. I'm going with that. Lol.

That loose schedule definitely put Tae in JK and JM's good graces.

My take away from that moment though, is- JK's agenda to give Tuktukkers hernia🤣

Lord I'm dying. I laughed so hard my ribs hurt. Pray for me. Lmho.

Chilee JK.

Dude is on a mission to run the entire Taekook gay, Taekook married propaganda campaign into the ground. What guts me is, he knows what Tae Kook is. I bet he went online after that Tae Kook Vlive to watch Tae Kook compilations. He's been on a mission to obliterate that ship since. Lol.

I mean I won't put it past him. Probably looked up Yoonmin while he was at it and showed Jimin analysis videos of him moaning in Suga's bedroom🤣🤣🤣🤣

Would explain why he was laughing when he saw Yoonmin in the comments during the VLive and why Jimin looked like he wanted to eat us alive. Lmho.

Oh Tae touched my peepee? You bloody moaned in Suga's bedroom how about we call it even?

ROTFL.

I joke but I mean, this is the same dude who took an online personality test after Tae read his results to him in Soop- he definitely watched those Tae Kook compilation-Y'all laugh else I'll shoot you. Lmho. I can't be the only one who finds this funny!

He knows what shipping is, he knows how statements like that would be construed by the fans- and the fact Jimin had spent an entire interview and behind scenes openly disavowing his glorified friendship connections... I smell a renewal of commitment somewhere.

Don't mind me. I play too much sometimes.

There is nothing wrong with Tae Kook's friendship. If anything, it seems JK feels very appreciative of Tae in recent times which is usually a good sign between them because for Vminkook to thrive they all need to make space for eachother and for the pairings amongst them to thrive- Vmin, Taekook and Jikook.

I hope this helps?

Signed,

GOLDY