#david charles haller

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Submitted by anonymous

[stinkrat-aleks]

some Good Dad Charles to balance out all the recent angst

[leninille]

let’s be telepaths with mama

charles and baby david as a thank you gift for @stinkrat-aleks

[velvet4510]

The thing is, Hank and Alex were both in their late teens/early twenties in First Class so their respective dynamics with Charles & Erik were more “big brother/little brother”, and obviously Raven was the little sister, BUT Sean was the undisputed baby of the group, clearly 17 at most, and Cherik’s first parenting experience was teaching Sean to fly.

Like yeah - let’s talk about Peter and Wanda and Lorna and Nina and David and (by adoption) Jean all day long - but Sean was Cherik’s firstborn.

[uniquecellest]

*Lorna, Pietro, Wanda, David, Onslaught, and Xandra bugging Erik and Charles in the very early morning hours before sunrise*

Kids: Dads! Dads. . . . Dads!

Erik: your kids are awake

Charles: before sunrise they're your kids

[pacing-er]

My sister showed me how to overlay photos on my phone we are so back

[angelscott]

That's it

Pietro* damnit

[tawked]

I promise I will shut up about disabilities in comics, but I wanna make one last point.

There's a kind of writing where disability, or more often the abuse of someone with a disability, is employed for shock value and South Parkian offensiveness. This isn't really the kind of thing that's going to offend most disabled readers of comics. I think to be a reader of comics you kind of have to be fairly desensitized to violence or the abuse of characters. I mean, shit, Spider-Man's life is basically endless misery and he's considered a bright, optimistic, positive character with bright, optimistic, positive stories most of the time.

Rather, I think what seems to stick in the craw of most disabled readers I know, and especially myself, is when disabled aesthetics are used superficially to invoke disability but the disabled person's actual life as a disabled person isn't really considered beyond that. It's sad that Xavier or Barbara Gordon can't walk, but let's not consider what that means for their actual lives.

So there's this disconnect in the community sometimes, like...

Able-bodied reader (Lawful Good): omg! how evil! how cruel! to do that to a disabled person! this is really crossing the line! this is really beating balls!

Able-bodied reader (Chaotic Evil): lol. haha. lol. yeah charles xavier CAN'T climb stairs. funny observation, mark millar I assume

Disabled reader: how the fuck did he get up to the second floor? seriously there's no elevator or chairlift or anything

I think you can really see a difference in the two approaches in Legion.

The Legion of the comics is played as scary because he's disabled, the aesthetics of mental illness and disability are invoked purely for horror, and we're made to fear what he can inflict on others. There's no consideration of his environment beyond the superficial use of a psychiatric ward uniform and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure hair (a signifier of severe mental illness if ever there was one). He is raised in abusive psychiatric confinement but remains at that level even when removed from it, he does not react to his environment so much as he is produced by it in a near permanent sense.

Meanwhile, David of the Legion FX series (one of the best artistic communications of SCZ I have ever seen) focuses exhaustively on David's environment. On the conditions he has been made to live in and the effect they have such as the often futile and punitive nature of psychiatric confinement, and the people who have affected him in a general sense and particularly in relation to his disability.

Legion FX uses an intentionally anarchronistic combination of disabled aesthetics specifically to avoid the use of disabled imagery for any familiar purpose, be it horror or sympathy, to shift the audience's focus to his environment at basically all times.

David is abused in both narratives, that's sort of the point of Legion as a character - what happens if you abuse someone with Xavier-level powers - but in the former he's often treated as a kind of horror movie monster while in the latter he's treated as a human being first and foremost. The former never lets you doubt that he's mentally ill and being cuhraaazy and mad at Charles is his primary motivator. I want to mention that comic book Legion has a 1990s idea of what we today call dissociative identity disorder, not schizophrenia, but it hardly fucking matters because he's just written as weird, a real weirdo, he doesn't fit in and he doesn't want to fit in, have you ever seen him not raving psychotically? Okay, that's weird.

Meanwhile, the latter version plays with this idea that he might be misunderstanding his psychic powers as schizophrenia and pulls off an incredible plotline where some essential oils self-help guru lady convinces him to desist with his meds and this ends badly for everybody lol. Even once David is unambiguously confirmed to be psychic and schizophrenic at the same time (not a spoiler in comic book world), the narrative makes absolutely clear that his actions are a consequence of treatment and environment, not some inherent fiendishness. We even see a dimension-hopping episode where David's life plays out a range of ways based on key moments changing and while he's schizophrenic in every timeline, the outcome is different each time.

The former seeks to shock and offend as a horror movie would, the latter seeks to empathize and humanize.

The former reads (to me, anyway) as kind of offensive not because it's just an evil crazy person stereotype (if I were offended by this I'd just never consume any American media), but because his character feels impossible within his environment and context. He's just crazy and scary because he's crazy.

The latter is directly a result of his environment at all times and the world is built around his existence, both to accommodate and to create barriers, with the effects of those accommodations and barriers being central to the narrative.

All this is to say,

why doesn't the Xavior mansion have a stupid chairlift on the stairs Wolverine throws Xavier down

[winter-wise]

Wild how Magneto has three living kids (rip Anya) and they've all had the "so glad we're siblings, it's rough sometimes but we love each other" moments. Meanwhile Professor X has three kids and they've never even met.

[nitpickrider]

David has every right to be pissed at you until the day he dies, Chuck. And yet no matter how much you question him he's still trying to play things your way. Way of X 4

[inmymagnetoera]

List of X-Men characters (not all because I'm not that knowledgeable) who have one or more disabilities, because representation matters!

Charles Xavier: Paraplegia and chronic pain.

Erik Lehnsherr: PTSD

Logan Howlett: Chronic pain

Wade Wilson: Severe Disfigurement

Irene Adler: Blindness

Laura Kinney: Chronic pain

Scott Summers: Blindness (Without his glasses)

Calibano: Xeroderma pigmentosum (sun allergy)

Nathan Summers: Parts of the body modified due to the virus contracted as a newborn (his arm, his eye, etc.)

David Haller: Dissociative identity disorder (DID)

If you have more let me know, i'll make a part 2!

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Submitted by @dylchillvill

[stinkrat-aleks]

had to draw this meme with them

[rei-ismyname]

Loser Husbands get judged

Judgement Day was a fantastic event running through the entire Marvel universe. In short, the new Prime Eternal thought wiping out the mutants would secure his political position. Tony Stark, Sinister and the Eternal priests built a new God to stop the war - which it briefly did. Then it judged everyone.

Magneto and Storm put on a fantastic show fighting Uranos the Undying, as you can see. The big guy tore Mags' heart out (rude) but he kept fighting with his powers and help from Storm, and eventually the pair fucked Uranos up. That's not what he's judged on.

As part of Arakko's government, Mags and Storm removed themselves from the resurrection protocols. Magneto is dying and The Progenitor chooses to judge him based on whether he sticks to his guns and accepts death. It's right that Xavier would save his loser husband if he called out to him right now, but he doesn't. It appears as his lost daughter Anya and gives him a thumbs up, recontextualising the scene in X-Men Red..

Interestingly, it thinks 'if all were like him there'd be no need for men like him.' Inasmuch as this cobbled together space God based on Tony Stark is worth listening to, it's at least fascinating that Kieron Gillen chose those words. Storm and Mags embracing as he dies is beautiful and the judgement means nothing.

Chuck doesn't fare so well in the 'being judged by a space God' game. The judgement itself is meaningless, but the nature of the test and Xavier's response are significant. The Progenitor has been shown to frequently judge a person based on their own standards and guilt.

The implication that Chuck represses the extent of his guilt over his shoddy parenting wouldn't surprise me. The dude is running a country and overseeing a psychic siege defence of the Quiet Council by himself, something that kills him multiple times via exploding head. He's also taking meetings, communicating with various people, and even has the time for passive aggressive jabs here and there.

I suspect it's not a failure to drop everything and run to David right in this moment, but not even stopping to look at his son on what's looking like the last day of existence for everyone. It could be something else entirely, what with inscrutable space Gods and all, though Charles Xavier is incredibly neglectful to David and always has been. I love that Legion managed to build himself some happiness and stability in spite of this, and I would LOVE to see a conversation between the two right now.

[why-do-you-need-2-know]

My thoughts of cherik custody battle

Wanda- shared custody (Charles in the weekend, Erik during the week)

Peter- shared custody (Charles in the week, Erik in the weekend)

Lorna- Erik

Jean - shared custody ( Erik in the summer while Charles the rest of the year)

David- Charles

[pacing-er]

Onslaught Resurrection is a Krakoa-Era AU set between Onslaught Revelations and Inferno! Rather than being squashed like a bug, Onslaught is given a second chance in his own body made from the combined DNA of Professor X and Magneto! With the help of their other children, his progenitors are tasked with nurturing him and (hopefully) changing his ways as he grows into a full-fledged mutant!