#don't engage with anyone sharing the leaks

[chaos-and-recover]

Hey, c'mere a minute. Listen to me. I know it's been a bit of a day what with the Sleep Token Instagram being wiped clean in the midst of all the doxxing bullshit going on, but I think we're maybe getting a little hysterical. There is so, so much evidence that wiping the Instagram is part of a calculated move to launch a new era, and not a signal that they're walking away. Let's lay it out.

II, III and IV revealed new looks at the Wembley show; Vessel didn't

They posted a link to Ascensionism on YouTube today, and while people are drawing a line between the doxxing and "you make me wish I could disappear" I would like to instead draw your attention to the line "You're gonna watch me ascend"

Sundowning, This Place Will Become Your Tomb and Take Me Back To Eden tell a story. They're a trilogy. The end of Euclid calls back to The Night Does Not Belong to God. It's full circle, end-of-an-era stuff. But if the end of the era was the band itself it would be absolute nonsense to put all that work into designing new aesthetics for 3/4 of the band for ONE SHOW.

The website is still up and the Twitter is still active. It's only Instagram that got cleared out, and even then the saved story highlights are all still there

As has certainly been pointed out by others this is not uncommon. Paramore has done this at leas twice. I feel like Hayley does it semi-regularly on her own account, as well as periodically just leaving social media in general. All members of AFI and their official account changed their profile images to just black ahead of the release of their 2017 album. It's a Thing.

Tour dates!! They still have tour dates. They're going to Australia with Bring Me The Horizon in April (Australia I am SEETHING WITH JEALOUSY). They have Radio City Music Hall, Red Rocks and Sonic Temple

This Tweet:

This now-deleted post from a radio station in Iowa:

This also-removed listing on Ticketmaster (screenshot taken today, Jan 16, 2024:

(The removal of these two items is NOT an indication that they've been cancelled but rather an indication that someone posted them too early)

Yeah, the doxxing sucks. It's got to be stressful for them. But there's also been radio silence from the band and their camp on it and I think that's absolutely the right call -- there are potential legal consequences and it very well could be something lawyers are dealing with. Remember that this is the music BUSINESS and they are not defenseless little meow meows in this. A line has been crossed, boundaries violated, that sucks, that's unforgivable, but I genuinely don't believe we're gonna see the end of the band over it. I mean they are WAY too committed to the bit to let this slow them down.

I think instead we are going to get a tour announcement, and I think we're going to get it as early as this week. Maybe early next week.

We might even get new music or a new reveal from Vessel between now and the Australia dates.

Now let my depressed ass go back to crying to Atlantic on repeat and let's all calm down.

[queenshelby]

Yes! Mr Murphy (Rewritten)

PART 43: MORE TAPE(S)

Pairing: Cillian Murphy x Reader

Warning: Lots of Angst, Age Gap, Teacher x Student, Extreme Smut

PLEASE COMMENT AND ENGAGE!

Two days had passed and you were back home in Dublin, confronted with a sex-tape between Cillian and his assistant Kit that, by now, had spread like wildfire, making you uncomfortable and emotional every time a notification popped up on your social media accounts, alerting you to the video. All of your friends and acquaintances had, by now, sent this to you and you were sick of it.

Reaching for his phone, Cillian shut off the recording, unable to bear witnessing further humiliation in front of you. The walls of his luxury apartment closed in on him, suffocating in an oppressive shroud of shame.

"My own daughter has seen this and so has my son! Fuck!" Cillian groaned aloud, pacing agitatedly in the room. He turned to you with a look of desperation, his eyes pleading for understanding. Despite your resignation to the fact, your heart went out to him, feeling sympathy and guilt for placing him in this predicament.

"You know you can sue her for this, right?" you suggested hesitantly, clasping his hands softly, trying to offer whatever solace you could provide. Though your intentions were pure, you couldn't help but notice Cillian's reluctance.

"No, this would make things worse, I think," Cillian responded solemnly, running his fingers through his tousled hair in distraction.

A heavy silence settled upon the two of you as reality seeped in – there was no escaping the consequences of this event. No amount of legal action could undo the damage already done.

"Will you at least confront her about it?" you asked, seeing that she had filmed this without his knowledge and then leaked it to the press in spite.

"Yes, I am meeting with her tomorrow. My lawyer has sent her a letter to address the issue privately at first. But legal action? It would just create more publicity which I don't want for Nina's sake," Cillian revealed, looking downward, defeated. 

"I understand, Cills and I think that you should tell her exactly how devastating this is for everyone involved, especially your children. Surely, she can see this. You need to be firm," you advised earnestly, trying to impart strength to his weakening spirit. He nodded gratefully, appreciating your support during this challenging period.

"I will be firm Y/N. I promise," Cillian responded resolutely, pulling away from your touch with newfound determination. He needed to maintain composure now more than ever; letting emotions overwhelm him wouldn't serve anyone's best interest. Instead, it required coolness, levelheadedness, and strategizing. The battle was about to begin, and it wasn't one easily won.

Kit, his once trustworthy employee, had betrayed him in the worst possible way.

The very thought made him nauseous. How could she film them doing something so personal and share it with the entire world? The anger boiling inside of him threatened to consume him entirely.

Walking around aimlessly throughout the day, you noticed his turmoil increasing tenfold. Every step he took echoed with uncertainty and doubt; you could sense that something truly dramatic was about to unfold. After hours of deliberation, Cillian finally decided to take matters into his own hands, requesting a change of scenery.

"We should do something nice after I deal with this tomorrow. Just you and me," he suggested, and you smiled faintly, grateful for any respite from this hellish storm. Glancing at his tired features, a wave of protectiveness swept over you. It was essential to stay strong for him, offering moral support where necessary.

"That sounds perfect. We need a break from all this madness," you agreed, smiling warmly at him. As you looked into his weary eyes, you felt a mix of love, admiration, and concern, knowing just how difficult this whole debacle had become for him.

"How about a trip to somewhere like the Maldives? I have never been there, and Dermont reckons it's quite nice. Just you and me on the beach," Cillian proposed with a sparkle in his eye, as though daring you to imagine the possibility.

Your stomach fluttered, excitement building within you at the prospect of exploring such an idyllic destination while, at the same time, you knew that you could not leave Ireland now without risking being denied re-entry upon your return.

Your visa was about to run out and you needed to address this issue before embarking on a vacation.

"Cillian, I would love to go on a holiday with you, but I can't leave the country right now. My student visa expires soon, and I don't know what to do about it just yet. I am working on it though. But, if I leave Ireland now, I can't return without a new visa in place," you explained sheepishly, avoiding his gaze.

His expression shifted instantly, a mixture of disappointment and frustration flashing across his features.

"Why didn't you tell me?" Cillian murmured softly, his eyes filled with understanding and worry.

Flinching momentarily, you admitted to him the difficulties you faced due to your impending immigration issues.

"Well, you've got your birthday coming up. You also have more important things to worry about at the moment and the premieres next month...I didn't want to burden you with my problems. I was just going to sort it out, but it proved to be much more difficult than I had anticipated, " you said and your words trailed off as your shoulders slumped, indicating your defeat.

Cillian wrapped an arm around your waist tenderly, displaying solidarity amidst adversity.

"Listen Y/N, you are my priority! I will ask my lawyer about this tomorrow after dealing with Kit. There must be an option if you want to stay. You may be able to change your visa to another visa or something," he said, and his tone exhibited care and understanding, allowing you to lean on him for support. "You do want to stay here, don't you?" Cillian questioned, wanting affirmation that his plan for staying together wasn't merely wishful thinking.

"Yes, Cillian. Of course I want to stay here. With you. I love you. Despite, Emma is staying in Ireland too. She is moving to Cork soon, and I want to be close to her as well," you expressed sincerely, locking eyes with him to convey your commitment.

His relief was palpable, and he held you closer still, promising to find a solution.

"Good. I am glad. Because there is no fucking way, I will ever let you go again," Cillian proclaimed confidently, taking charge of both situations which were now overshadowing your happiness.

"Dublin is my home now Cillian, so don't worry!" you replied cheerily but, just as you did, a bound of nausea hit you again, forcing you to make a mad dash to the bathroom.

Cillian, worried, followed behind and gently placed a comforting hand on your shoulder, whispering sweet words of encouragement, easing your anxiety somewhat.

He led you towards the bedroom afterwards, sitting beside you carefully, ensuring you felt comfortable enough to discuss the matter openly, thinking that the nausea was the result of your stress levels lately.

Feeling better physically, Cillian reached for your hand, intertwining your fingers lovingly. His eyes searched yours intently, seeking confirmation of your feelings regarding the situation.

"I hate seeing you like this, because of what Kit has done..." Cillian told you, but you interrupted him.

"No, it's not because of this. I am just hormonal. My cycle is all over the place ever since the surgery and I think that this is why I feel sick sometimes, "you tried to explain your condition, hoping that he understood the physical strain it put on you.

Cillian nodded sympathetically, wrapping you tightly in his arms, providing much-needed comfort.

"You should probably see someone about this again," he offered kindly, genuine concern evident in his voice. Your brow furrowed slightly in response, sensing the underlying undertone of concern rather than dismissal.

"I will, once you have dealt with Kit," you conceded, pondering the idea seriously for the first time. Your health had always taken a backseat, considering the recent surgeries and recoveries, coupled with the chaos surrounding the scandal. And perhaps this constant stress wasn't helping either.

"No, let's make sure we prioritise your health," Cillian remarked solemnly, adding weight to the conversation.

"Okay, I will get an appointment scheduled," you promised reluctantly, aware that the stress might eventually cause serious complications. Nevertheless, you couldn't help feeling irritated that these small concerns seemed to dominate most of your life currently.

With an aching heart, you glanced at your lover, acknowledging the gravity of the situation involving Kit and what you suggested next caught Cillian by suprise.

"You know, maybe, we should do something a little bit adventurous. Maybe this will take our minds off this video your crazy ass assistant shared on the internet," you teased playfully, your lips curling into a wicked smile.

"What do you have in mind?" Cillian asked, intrigued, as his eyebrows raised salaciously, a gleam of mischief lighting up his eyes.

"Something kinkier than anything we've done before," you told him before sliding down onto his lap.

"Okay. You have my attention. Tell me what you want to do," Cillian asked eagerly, raising an eyebrow suggestively.

A delicious thrill coursed through your veins as you contemplated the possibilities. The seductive power dynamics between you two made the air thick with sexual energy.

"I want us to explore some boundaries," you began slowly, savoring the taste of the forbidden fruit.

As you breathed heavily, trying to steady yourself against his chest, you continued, "And do things that we haven't even talked about."

Cillian swallowed hard, his breath catching. "Like what?" he ventured hesitantly, a hint of trepidation crossing his face.

You grinned wickedly, running your tongue along your bottom lip.

"Well, you are an actor, aren't you? So, how about some role play?"  You suggested coquettishly, letting your imagination run wild with various ideas dancing inside your head.

"I am all ears," Cillian said, his curiosity piqued.

"Well, we could pretend to be strangers meeting for the first time at a hotel. Then we could indulge in our fantasies, testing boundaries in our roles – teacher and student, doctor and patient, maybe even a dominant and submissive scenario," you mentioned, excited by the thought of turning the tables and experiencing each other differently.

"And we will film it, but just for us," you added, causing a wave of nervousness to ripple through him. Cillian hesitated briefly, his mind processing everything rapidly. Finally, he took a deep breath and accepted the challenge.

"I need to buy a camera first," he started, finally breaking the silence that hung heavy in the room. 

"Of course," you agreed, smiling warmly. The intensity of the discussion had increased exponentially, and your body burned with desire. It was almost painful to contain yourself, longing to experience the scenarios you discussed. As you kissed passionately, tangled limbs entwined in an erotic dance of pleasure, but your excitement was short lived as, suddenly, the doorbell rang startling you both.

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[uriekukistan]

why are you defending megumi? he may not be loved by some people, but who cares, if for you megumi is a good character? I mean, why even prove these "megumi's a bum" dudebros wrong, when you don't have to communicate with the fandom and you can just live happily in your information bubble? /genq /nm /npa

i mean, i think it’s natural for everyone to defend their fav character, no? i’m not the only one who does this.

but honestly i’m not sure what you’re referring to when it comes to “defending” him. i talk a lot about megumi and his strengths, the things i like about him, the ways i wish things could have been happier for him, etc, but that’s all because i like him and i want to talk to other people who like megumi as much as me :)

in reality i don’t really engage with anyone other than my megumi-loving mutuals about jjk online. i’m not trying to prove some dudebros wrong. i’m trying connect with my fellow megumi enjoyers.

the thing is, i can build my fyp brick by brick and still see things i don’t want. i can only go on twt for leaks and still see things i don’t want. the world is full of people who don’t share my opinions on various topics, and it’s impossible to build a bubble away from that.

anyway. i think of my self as less of a megumi defender and more as someone who just really likes talking about The Character online. most of my irls don’t read manga, so i’m happy that i have a space to talk about that interest with others and i dont plan on cutting myself off from fandom spaces anytime soon.

[herejusttosufferalong]

"I don't know if you received my ask but my phone keeps glitching so here it goes again. I have a genuine PR question. What if the cast were told when promoting the show to mention specifically that things felt real between Luke and Nicola? I noticed L&N kept saying in the beginning of the tour that lines were blurred, there were specific highlights they were all told to touch on. It must have been the strategy to create the illusion of a tv romance turned real life PR and it works and keeps the engagement from fans going long past the season being out. Considering Luke has a girlfriend this could be why he's remaining mum for now in order for the studio to finish their PR strategy until the 90 days are up. "

I am one of the anons w marketing backround and I had the exact same impressions during watching interviews and bts materials. Hear me out, even if the first part is not feeding our delulu.

I thought instantly that Shonda thinks Lukola is needed to validate Polin. Her interview also gave her away. She is a savy businesswoman, everything she says is with intention.

It is a show made by a woman's company, directed by a woman, targered to fellow women, it can feel and look as a wishful fantasy one woman serving the others, so a straight man's validation is needed. Especially because the story is a love story of someone who is wallflower falling for an attractive guy.

And yes, that straight man who needs to validate this is LN. I think he agreed to play it along. Or maybe he did, but not really wanted, and the continous leaking with A is his way of defiance.

But.

I am still here and ship them, because of the way L and N leaned into it. The unconscious moments gave them away. Their body language, the peeks, the adoring eyes. Those are not acted, but real. Anyone with eyes can see, they are in real-life-into- each- other. We would have not resonated with their feelings so strongly if this would have been merely an act. I am positive it wasn't.

Regarding A, I agree with those who think he was being casual with her, this is his rebound/biding time relationship. I am also on board with him being slightly feeling sidelined due to Nic's overwhelming success. Looks like this was not expected by him or his team. But back to marketing,

I think it could have been seen beforehand. Partly bc of Nic's delightful personality. The other reason is the trope. We always side with the "underdog" that is more relatable for most Bton fans. And that is her than him. Both Penelope and Nicola. The clever and funny girl ovrrlooked by many, for a long time.

For L this could have been still a wonderful opportunity to kick off even a diverse and rich career from. I think his expectations were not realistic, probably he is disappointed now.

His sm interaction with the show shows me that.

As for what is to come, I look forward to read other's opinions. There are so many clever people with good insights gathered here, I love it 💜

Thank you for providing a safe place for this community 🤗👏

thank you for sharing anon 💜

glad you are here 🥃

[velvetvexations]

You seem a bit confused about what traps are, anon, or else whoever gave you that impression is. A "trap" is not really a character archetype at all, it's just a transmisogynistic* meme term that originated on 4chan to joke about male characters who look feminine enough to be mistaken for girls. Mostly it gets play nowadays as a synonym for femboy, but whereas hysteria about "the fb slur" is absolutely just hysteria, objections to "trap" are legitimate because that really is coming from a transmisogynistic place.

*see, I can talk about transmisogyny!

It's necessary to lie because the goal isn't doing anything productive, it's sustaining a bubble of Matrix they've created where they're constantly under attack from the ultra-popular transandrobros trying to socially murder the dolls. It's just a deluge of completely insufferable claptrap to keep their audience captivated with outright falsehoods. Even now, if you go into the transmisogyny tag, you can find other white transradfems repeating apricot-aligator's racist lies about Black misandry, because they don't engage with anyone they disagree with. They aren't interested in learning or doing anything good for anyone. It's just sharing masturbatory angst back and forth while picking on whatever targets they can swing at to keep feeling like martyrs.

"Velvet commented on my post even though it wasn't very popular" good I'm glad their public transphobia wasn't popular.

They do not have remotely constructive shit to say about transmisogyny, I would despise them enough purely for their takes on trans women's issues. Even at the most fundemental levels they are so incredibly wrong that it's amazing anyone gets to the end of each sentence without their brain leaking out their ears.

[justzawe]

All this rumour about wedding is so annoying.

They are very private couple, and I don't think they'll have a big wedding with journalists and famous guests. If they don't married yet, they'll have a wedding where will be only their friends and they'll don't share the pictures from there.

This is just my headcanon about them and I could be wrong. But did you really expect the big wedding and pictures from there?

This is only their life and it'll be their day, only for them and not for the fans. I'll be very surprised if they'll do any "official" comments about this.

If some information will leak and someone ask them after the event, or maybe when Tom will wear a ring and journalists will congrat them, they'll just say "thank you" or "we are very happy"

And this is the most important thing: they'll be happy together even without wedding. They ARE a family. I can understand why people are so excited about wedding. Of course I want to see her in the beautiful wedding dress. But I won't us, the real fans of them, to be more protective. All this stalking for her account stuff 😭

I don't want to see any paparazzi pictures from their wedding, that's what I mean. It's not fair. We don't have to see their private life if they don't want to share it with us.

I love them so much and I will cry a lot if I'll see their wedding. But it'll be happy to see their wedding pictures only if it'll be taken with their permission.

I hope if they'll want to make it private, it'll stay private.

(Sorry for the long message, I just tried to explain why I feel anxious about all this rumours)

I think most just assume that they’ll have a big reception with lots of friends and family because they’re both fun sociable people who love to dance

I haven’t really seen anyone expecting private wedding photos or an exclusive interview about it or anything. There were paparazzi at Benedict Cumberbatch’s wedding and yet it still managed to be a private event. I think it’s fine that people know Zawe is most likely wedding planning. That’s what everyone expects of an engaged woman.

All this to say, it’s going to be okay. Lol

[valaruakars]

Re: the a//rcane leaks, I'm overdue to make myself very clear:

I do not care if you've watched them. I do not care if you discuss them in private spaces with other people who've watched them. But I do care about basic etiquette in public fan spaces. So I do care if you are posting publicly without tagging spoilers, speculating in bad faith based on the leaks, or intentionally robbing others of their excitement and anticipation, whatever the supposed justification. There’s no special prize for being correct, and if that’s so important that it necessitates being inconsiderate to strangers on the internet, log off and touch grass or make a better effort to choose kindness. Please. I'll even go first by holding nothing against anyone who shared a spoiler with me. It's forgiven, so long as you don't do it again to others without consent.

Moving forward, I won’t be engaging with leaks, and I do not want to see them. I want to form my own opinions in November. Regardless of the outcome, whether I like it or not, I’m excited to process everything that happens openly and collaboratively here. If that’s a problem—and I don’t understand why it would be, it’s no one’s business but my own—the unfollow and block buttons exist for a reason. Be mature, use them.

This is not drama or a discussion, this is a clearly outlined boundary. I don’t want to hear anything more on this topic. Any messages regarding this will be deleted by my partner when I choose to come back again.

Thanks, I love you and please remember to protect your own happiness. For now... See y'all in November, I think ✌️

[finalgirlwillbyers]

Hello 🌸

Why do so many people who claim to know something about st5 deny any possibility of Mike and Will getting together? She show is written like they have a good chance, but all these “leakers” are so confident it’s never going to happen… I am confused. Really curious to see your opinion. Thanks💫

It's because the leakers either immensely dislike Bylrs (@/dyersfilms), are staunch Mlvns (@/bubbles1420), don't ship Bylr (@/byrhop), or change beliefs when convenient (@/Tate100T). @/conflictofthemind is the one I can think of, top of mind, that ships Bylr and has other leaks that can affirm or deny what's shared in that larger leaker group chat. Unless we're counting @/rabbitsrun25 who has a dodgy track record but also shares leaks aligning with other leakers before those accounts even post.

Whoever the source is in that Twitter group or in the DMs is limited in what they do know, specifically who they're sharing information on. A lot of the leaks are Wheeler-centric. That could be a reflection of the accessibility of those leaks, that groups' interests, and the level of leak severity. In general, leaks are bad, however some leaks are worse than others. Example: Peter Ballard being 001/Vecna is a worse leak than Mike giving El yellow and purple flowers at the airport (yes, these are real Stranger Things 4 leaks).

Lack of leaks about a certain character or plot line doesn't signify that character's or plot line's irrelevancy, especially when the Duffers state said character is a major part of Stranger Things 5. Sorry. If I need to pick between obnoxious stans whispering about vague leaks or what the show-runners said multiple times before writing S5, I'll pick the Duffers.

The most vocal leakers mentioned above don't care for Bylr, because they perceive shippers as Will stans with fujo disease. The assertion that Bylrs are majority Will stans is incorrect. People mainly love the love Will has for Mike. That's not the same as loving the character! Anyways, this assumption is used to justify them being antagonistic, whether that's spewing homophobic and ableist slurs or peddling misogyny. The fact that Noah Schnapp plays Will adds fuel to the fire, making them oscillate between ignoring his existence or treating him and Will like a public enemy. It's not in their interests to report fairly and accurately about Will related plots.

Consequently, they diminish the role Will plays in leaks and the show. User @/dyersfilms admitted to removing Will from leaks that contain him, as well as promised not to share leaks involving him. Therefore, I don't know why one would expect her or anyone closely affiliated with her (like bubbles1420) to share news that puts him in proximity to Mike. User @/byrhop doesn't even like or want to report on shipping, given how vitriolic both sides are. And, I don't blame her!

As for (@/8flix)!Nick, I wouldn't consider him a leaker. He procured dubious Stranger Things 4 scripts for Dear Billy and The Piggyback, during and after S4's run. He's not involved in the production of Stranger Things 5. Whatever he shared is his opinion. Just like mine, just like your's, and just like every blogger on this site. Hell, he was even trolling prior to answering that ask from @/conflictofthemind.

Who cares if this random dude doesn't believe in Bylr endgame? Have conviction in what conclusion you've drawn from evidence. Stand up. Being wildly insecure about one's own opinion isn't a good sign of "media literacy".

Just like bloggers who cherry pick what leaks they choose to engage with and believe in, leakers cherry pick what they want to share or simply make shit up. You see the former with @/dyersfilms who is friendly with Mlvns, and the latter @/willsxbylers. To be frank, the leakers also don't really know what's happening in S5. They know a little more than us, but not a lot.

With a plot twist as significant as Bylr, hidden for multiple seasons and completely upending most audience members' understanding of Mike, it wouldn't be easily leaked. Mike and Will's scenes were barely touched on in Stranger Things 4 leaks. The major scenes between them are probably filmed on closed sets in studio too.

With information being easily traceable during production, with jobs and reputations on the line, no one ought to know any endgames of characters or ships. No matter how loud they are about what they're extrapolating from leaks.

[majaloveschris]

What do you think about Lonesome saying they got video proof of the engagement?

You know that I don't talk about other blogs here; however, as I used to do in the past, I'm going to talk about the information they shared!

Disclaimer: Everything I say here is not about Lonesome but about their source. Do not use my post to send hateful comments or death threats to them. Do not repost my post with any hateful and disgusting comments.

I always try to think through things rationally and with all the possibilities, not only from a PR perspective.

So Lonesome mentioned that their source is somebody from Chris's side. I have the first and probably the biggest problem here. I don't think anybody from his circle would give away anything about him, especially not about his personal life. Who could this person be? Someone who is extremely close to him, like a family member or a close friend, who didn't just see the video and the photo but also has them. I can't imagine Tara, Carly, Scott, or anybody like that going online and sharing anything, but especially something so private and intimate like a proposal.

Another question: Why? Why would anyone from his side want to share this? What would be the reason? Why would they want to get this out? They clearly asked Lonesome not to share the picture or the video, but then what's the point in sharing the information? If they are a trustworthy source, if there are pictures or videos, and they aren't photoshopped or anything like that, why not give permission to share them? Giving information to someone but not allowing them to post actual evidence of it—and I'm not talking about anything personal—seems pointless to me.

So if they are truly together and they clearly want to keep it secret, since the source said nothing about the announcement but that it won't be the thing that comes in the next few months but the wedding, then why does everybody keep leaking and leaking everything about the engagement and the fact that there will be a wedding? There is no way they don't know; they don't want to make it public. And why would their families and friends make their private lives public, especially when they know they don't want it? Also makes no sense.

I don't trust nameless, faceless sources, especially when they say they know something so personal and intimate. No matter if it would support the real or the PR side. I can't believe them; I'm sorry. Especially when I have never even talked to them or known anything about them.

We have never ever gotten anything so personal out about Chris; nobody has ever leaked anything so private, except for his d pic, but that's on him. Even DM admitted that she has nothing on him since he has a really closed-off group of friends. And to me, it's so surreal to think that everybody would betray him like this.

So this is my take on the whole thing. Again, it's about the source, not about Lonesome. Do not go to their blog and leave hateful or disgusting comments, or do the same thing by commenting on or reblogging my post. I do not stand for bullying other people or blogs.

[jamneuromain]

Wishful Thinking Chpt. 6

Andy Barber x You (Reader), no use of Y/N

Alternate Universe - College AU

Summary: A new semester. A new task. A new boyfriend, your previous professor, Andy Barber. Everything seems to be going on the right track. So why didn't it?

Warning: Angst, inappropriate teacher-student relationship, power imbalance, age difference, explicit language, Possessive!Andy Barber, CHEATING, Assault

A/N: This fic has some disturbing themes, and discusses potentially upsetting topics. Please read through the warning before engaging with the fic. As I have said, the fic has mentioned a number of (potentially) triggering and heavy topics, you don't have to engage further if you feel uncomfortable about one or more topics.

Wishful Thinking M. List Dancing in the Daydream M. List

Someone knocks on the door in a rush.

You weren’t thinking. You are so certain it must be Andy, hurrying back to change his clothes. You weren’t considering any other possibility, such as the neighbor comes knocking because there’s a leak in the pipes. You are so sure it’s Andy.

Only that Andy doesn’t need to knock.

He could have opened the door with his keys.

“Hey, I wasn’t expecting you’d-” Your sentence is cut off, as you open the door and your eyes land on a woman.

A skinny brunette about your height. Her hair is a bit tousled, her dark brown cardigan slightly out of place, as you believe it’s not that chilling in the middle of the day. Nevertheless, you cautiously ask the woman in front of you: “Hi, how may I help you?”

The brunette looks inside the house over your shoulder. She blinks a few times more than necessary, as if she was startled by your question, “I uh- is Andy here?”

Your thighs and calves suddenly get chilly as you realize you are still dressed in Andy’s clothes, which barely covers your thigh. You chew on your lower lips before answering, “No. I’m afraid not. He has gone to work. Do you want to leave a message?”

“What?” The brunette grips the hem of her cardigan, looking like the cardigan is biting her somehow. “What was that?”

You naturally think you replied in a small voice. You clear your throat, repeating your answer, “He’s at work. I’m sorry, who are you?”

The floating sight drifts around the interior of the house, before returning to you, “I’m Laurie. Laurie Barber.”

“Oh.” Barber. She looks too young to be his mother. So… “You’re his … sister? Cousin?” You open the door some more, “sorry, uh, do you want to come in?”

“And you’re …?” Laurie tilts her head, looking confused.

You wrap his shirt around you in slight embarrassment. You are not ready to meet his family right now. You weren’t even dreaming about this part (or thinking about it, to be honest), as you just started to build a relationship with Andy.

Deep down, however, you want to share this news with someone. Anyone.

A bashful grin sneaks on your lips, you lower your head, still embarrassed, but with a hint of happiness laced your voice, “I’m … umm his girlfriend.” You never met your boyfriends’ – whether the relationship serious or not- family before. And it’s not like Andy is open about his family or his past. Speaking of, he hasn’t even mentioned his childhood to you. Or the family members in his family. Hence, you have no idea who this Laurie is, or whether she is friendly to Andy.

You are a bit nervous so you hastily apologize for the both of you: “I’m sorry. Andy is not particularly sharing about himself. And it’s only been a few weeks since we were … a thing. I’m so sorry you saw me like this. Actually, we are not really clear about the relationship, we’re more just … rolling with it? See how it goes? It’s fairly new to both of us.” Gosh you are so nervous, you are giving yourself goosebumps.

“Girlfriend.” Laurie murmurs.

“Yeah, it’s-it’s new. And I don’t want to jinx it right now.” You let out a long exhale.

“A few weeks. You say.” Laurie repeats your words, more like a statement than a question. The fact that she hasn’t told you who she is to Andy makes you nod hesitantly.

She cannot be his mother, right?

If so, she looks way too young than her actual age.

“Yeah.” You add, “We’re not living together.” You are extra conscious of his shirt on you and how this all seems, when Laurie stares at your neckline.

You are so glad Andy didn’t pull any funny business and leave marks on your body last night, and also this morning. He’s a man of his words.  Or you would be digging a hole all the way to the core of the Earth and burying yourself in it right now.

“Together?” Laurie’s eyes look right into yours. The way she doesn’t blink and her eyes almost pop makes you slightly uncomfortable. For a second, you mistake her as a viper, slither its body, crouching low, waiting for the kill shot, eyes on the victim - you.

“Together? I guess. But we’re not-” there yet. You try to explain, but a loud smack on your face blocks whatever comes out of your mouth.

Your ears ringing, vision pitch black, a faint taste of metal lingers on your tongue. It prickles when you swallow on instinct.

What just happened?

Your palms cover your cheek, where it burns and stings.

“Stay away from my husband, you home-wrecking bitch.” Laurie steps close, her icy eyes full of taunt and contempt. The feeling of being watched by a dangerous predator sneaks up your back, you shiver uncontrollably, barely able to breathe. She pulls your hair back, making sure that you are listening closely to every word of her threat, “Or I’ll make your life a living hell.”

With that, she lets go of your hair, when your body drops to the ground with a dull “thunk”, as your legs turn weak. She slams the door, the loud noise echoes in the apartment.You can hear your mind going blank with a deafening buzz. Your heart threatens to jump out of your chest. And your face. Oh God your face.

You get up from the ground, moving yourself to the bathroom, checking yourself in the mirror. Your left cheek is a bit numb. But luckily there’s no trace of you being smacked just now. A faint smear of red on your cheek. Though it doesn’t look like leaving bruises any time soon.

She’s lying.

Laurie is a fucking liar.

You change your clothes into the T-shirt and jeans you wore last night. Packing his suit in your backpack.

Andy wouldn’t lie to you.

Andy has been so soft and sweet.

Sure, he has treated you roughly during sex one night. But what could one night represent? That he’s a psychopathic freak?

You turn the engine on and drive down the road towards the university.

Andy is your boyfriend. And Laurie is this crazy stranger coming out of nowhere slapping on your face. It’s obvious who you should trust.

Of course, you should trust Andy.

Andy who has been considerate for your relationship, telling you to take your time to decide.

Andy who has never told you about his family, who has never shared about his past, and hasn’t had a successful relationship in his thirties?

Laurie’s unexpected visit planted a seed of doubt deep in your heart, and now the vines grow. They connect the dots that you have been ignoring or pretend there’s nothing to it. They crawl over your heart, thorns poking, making you bleed.

The incessant calls and texts he claimed are sales calls and texts.

The lacking of his wardrobe. You thought the clothes there were a bit too simple, with few clothes.

The absence of mind lately. He’s not paying attention. Maybe getting too rough too. Does that mean he’s a wife beater, seeing that Laurie is far from a peace lover?

Suppose Laurie is violent, and that’s a big “IF”, there’s no reason for him to lie.

He could’ve just told you that he had a terrible relationship in the past.

You try your best to calm down.

One more chance. You tell yourself. One more chance you’ll give him. You’ll forgive him if he would tell you the truth.

The truth.

What is the truth? Do you still dare to believe anything that comes out of his mouth?

Or he’s telling the truth? Laurie was delusional?

You park the car by the side of the road,

Andy’s office is located at Sackson House. A building you’ve only been to a handful of times in the previous three years because your classes were mostly in the Houlton Building. And the times you were there were only meant for scheduled office hours and the lecture Creative Writing. Not to mention you only have been to his office once.

The time he accused you of cheating in your homework.

Jokes on him because he’s the one cheating this time.

You grab your backpack.

About seven minutes or so from the start of the term reception, you stand in the elevator, patiently waiting for it to take you up to Andy’s floor.

This is the moment you’ve been both fearing and expecting. Ironically, like the first time you came to his office.

The crazy thing is, as you approach his office. You are suddenly less worried. Less concerned. As if you know how this would turn out – a break up.

What’s the worst that could happen?

You knock before entering, seeing Andy in his coffee-stained suit, flipping a fountain pen in his hand, clearly has nothing better to do than waiting for you.

You manage a smile, closing the door behind you.

“Hey sweetheart. How’s the ride here?” He stands up from behind the desk, approaching you, landing a small kiss on your forehead.

“Nothing much.” You pull his suit out of your backpack, handing him what he needs, “look Andy, I’ve been thinking.”

“Yeah?” Andy starts to shrug off his suit jacket, and unbutton his shirt.

You pull your backpack onto your shoulders, saying softly, “I don’t want there to be any secrets. Between us. If we’re doing this,” you suck in a breath, preparing yourself for whatever comes next, “this relationship, we need to be open and honest with each other.”

“Absolutely, sweets.” Andy nods in agreement, swiftly changing his shirt.

He’s distracted.

Which makes this the perfect chance.

Asking him.

The one and only chance you’ll give him.

And you pray for him to answer correctly – or is it honestly? Words that were supposed to mean the same but now their meanings vary miles away.

Honestly.

You’d want him to be honest.

Can you trust him though? With Laurie ruining everything? Ruining every idea you’ve had about the “perfect” boyfriend? About Andy?

“Anything you’d want to tell me? Anything you’d like to come clean about?” Calmly. Peacefully. Plain like asking him about the weather. “I don’t like to be kept in the dark, Andy.”

Andy is buttoning his cuff links. His movements slow down to a halt. His blue eyes focusing on you. Those warm blue eyes you thought so clear that you could see through his heart. They say the eyes are the windows of the soul. Yet you see nothing but a vast of blue, a pool of icy blue. The clear crystal color blocks all your prying sight out of his heart, his secrets. And maybe out of his wife too.

He smiles apologetically, “I do have a gift for you, sweetheart. But I hate to ruin the surprise.”

Right. His divorce papers, perhaps. Great gift. Brilliant gift.

Or better. His marriage papers. Even better. You think bitterly.

“Anything else you’d want to share with me?” You ask, the smile could barely manage itself on your face.

“Did I do something wrong?” His neck and shoulders seem tense all of a sudden, “did I forget to turn off the stove or something? You didn’t spy anywhere, did you, sweetheart?”

“I’m just being paranoid.” You smile, but the smile doesn’t reach your eyes. Gladly Andy isn’t standing too close to see that. “Nothing wrong. Relax, I didn’t spy. I’m just … insecure, I guess.” Yeah, because his past came knocking and you were the one to answer the door.

And there might be more secrets Andy is holding on to.

You shake your head lightly, making up your mind. This relationship has to end now. You weren’t the person to cheat in your homework, you refuse any actions that would tie you to academic malpractice. You certainly won’t tolerate Andy lying straight to your face.

At the bottom of your heart, you know. You know Laurie was telling the truth and Andy was lying.

Even if he wasn’t married, he should’ve sort this shit out with Laurie first.

No. You’re done with him.

But a proper goodbye first. You know for sure, you’ll miss him. Even if he’s an asshole.

You walk over to the table to hug him. One last time. One last hug.

He’s been kind to you. During this whole relationship.

He’s a nice boyfriend. Nicer than the ones you’ve been with before.

You crane your neck to look up at him, raising the corner of your lips, “thank you, for being honest with me.” For telling me who you really are. “I love you.” You love him. But that’s it.

Kissing his bearded chin, you let go of your arms, the whiff of his cologne on the tip of your nose. You know it’s the goodbye. Saying goodbye to the wild sex and the soft aftercare. Saying goodbye to the amazing dates you’ve been on. Saying goodbye to Andy.

“See ya, Andy.”

You putting up your hand to wave a little, stepping out of the office, closing the door behind you.

You didn’t bother to see his face. His expressions. You didn’t not try to read into it. A goodbye is a goodbye.

A goodbye to the best relationship you’ve had so far.

The door clicks shut. Cutting off your beloved Andy, and your broken relationship behind you.

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[teddyqd]

Samuel Lane/Carrion Crowe :: He/Him :: Early 30s

Story: Real People (Drama, Mystery, Supernatural)

Carrion Crowe is a prolific sci-fi author enjoying his niche notoriety and avoiding Netflix adaptations of his work like the plague. Since his rise to fame as a prodigy author at the age of 17, he's gone from strength to strength in his career, sharing the stories that have lived in his mind and protected himself for as long as he can remember.

Samuel Lane is a chronic daydreamer whose story begins in earnest when it becomes all too clear that he's shared too much of himself. The fictions he's cloaked his life in become the vicious weapon of threats both real and imagined.

When the world splits in half in front of his eyes, shadows in the shape of aliens start to lurk around him. His imaginings start to leak out of his head and put people he loves in danger. To save them, he must face up to the responsibilities he's been running from since he was a child.

Likes: astrobiology & space science as a whole, corvids, clubbing

Dislikes: people 'knowing' him, spicy food (coward), people who can't do a thought experiment

Physical: Samuel is a short, brown-skinned guy with a scruffy salt-and-pepper beard and moustache. It's very clear that he doesn't look after himself well. When he's functioning at his best, or he has someone regulating him, he can clean up pretty well and be pretty handsome, but it isn't his natural state, especially when the story starts.

He dresses for comfort over everything, but what that comfort is will fluctuate between very loose oversized clothes and things that provide compression/pressure. The exceptions to his usual comfort-first & scruffy approach are when he's dressing for clubbing, and when he's making public appearances as an author. He'll put his best foot forward when he's presenting himself to an audience, able to dissociate the person he is whilst he's out from the person he believes he is in his core. He's pretty neutral about his body, but knows that other people can find him attractive if he puts in the work, and will play to that.

Personality & Traits: A core part of Samuel's characterisation is the fact that he is a chronic daydreamer. He uses the worlds he's dreamed up as escapes from reality, opting out of a reality that bores him to one where he feels much more engaged and at home. However, as his stress levels rise, he more often falls into his imagined worlds involuntarily, and finds it significantly harder to leave them. He can differentiate the worlds he walks through, but when he starts to adopt the people around him into his imagined worlds, it becomes harder for him to understand what parts of them he's projected, and what's actually core to them. His misunderstanding of others has caused a lot of issues for him, but the understandings themselves have never been directly challenged for him to know that they're there at all.

Samuel likes to be admired, but doesn't try to make himself likeable. He's abrasive and stubborn, and consistently convinced that he's right. However, when presented with solid evidence to the contrary, he might be able to be convinced. If you catch him on a good day, or he likes you.

He's simultaneously very closed off, and desperate for connection, which he often finds through anonymous hookups and (probably undernegotiated) BDSM at his local kink club. If, for whatever reason, you make the effort to get to know him, he is fiercely loyal. Once he cares about you, that never goes away, even if you don't talk for years. If you betray his trust after that, he'll be hurt, but consider your betrayal as his own fault, rather than something intentional on your behalf, again pointing to his very self-centred way of viewing the world.

Samuel is incredibly passionate about the things he cares about, and if given a safe space to share them, he will with joy. He is quite self aware of this, though, and will tamp down on showing his excitement to anyone he doesn't trust fully. In these cases, his passion may come across more like a lecture than anything else.

He is convinced that sapient aliens exist, in such a way that it's not a belief, but a knowledge in the same way one might say they know that atoms exist. He doesn't know if humanity will ever encounter them, but he knows they're out there. He's aware this is a niche idea, and doesn't care to debate it, so often couches this knowledge in the framework of his stories.

Relationships: In general - Samuel finds it hard to get close to people. The people he is closest to are those he's known for a long time, or that he's been paired with by circumstance. He regards anyone related to his work as an author as expendable and changeable. Editors cycle out, agents give up on him, so he does not make the effort to connect with them. All they want is his stories, and all he wants from them is their reach. Their relationship remains business.

Josiah LaRoche (Jo) (he/him)- Samuel's childhood friend, and the reason his work was ever published. Josiah sent off Samuel's first finished manuscript without him knowing, and that story rocketed Samuel to fame. They haven't spoken properly in at least a decade. When Samuel returns to his home town, Josiah is the first person he sees, and it seems like he hasn't changed a bit, except to get hotter. Samuel wants to pick up the friendship where it was left, but Josiah has changed more than he wants to acknowledge, and that puts a strain on the old dynamic. Samuel's newfound attraction to the other man is also a new element, and one he's not exactly ready to confront. Josiah's straight, after all.

Tutu Lane (Turtle Dove) (she/her) - Samuel's younger sister. The pair grew up raising each other, more than with any adult supervision. Samuel sees himself as a stand-in parent to Turtle, but Turtle is proudly independent. She loves her brother, but was firm in needing her own space to grow. Since they grew apart, she's started doing a doctorate in astroagriculture, focusing on growing hardy, nutrient-rich food in the bizarre environs that space and other planets provide. They haven't talked in a few months. When Samuel returns home, he expects to find her in the family home. She isn't there. No one's seen her in a while.

Geiger (she/they) & Albert Elmer (he/him) - Samuel can't face a world of new horrors alone. He meets Albert and Geiger as he attempts to track down his sister, and learns that they, too, have seen the world split in half. They have their own theories, but they might be exactly what he needs to help him. He sees them, to begin with, as assistants. As they work together to uncover the truth of the shadows they're seeing, he might well grow to see them as equals, with stories just as rich as his own.

[houseofbrat]

These covers are nauseating because she. doesn’t. have. cancer and have literally exploited it to get out of the comms mess they made.

I expect the headlines going forward to be:

Anytime a member of the RF does any engagement it will be because “they working to support Kate” even The King who actually has cancer

When The King recovers from cancer it will be framed as he was inspired by Kate who again doesn’t have cancer

There will be zero calls for William especially to step up and work and they are never going to be criticized for not working again. Anyone who expects them to will be shamed

Also not how mercenary Kensington Palace is. When the King was diagnosed, they made no public statement of support. They didn’t even like or share his announcement message. Nothing leaked about how they were supporting him, if the grandkids sent him cards etc. Now suddenly to prop up this fake cancer storyline, The King is used as a prop for “heartfelt lunches” and “emotional hospital visits”. They don’t care about him - it’s just useful to use him now.

People falling for this are chumps are it says a lot about the moral rot at Kensington Palace. William truly is Diana’s son in the worst way and I wonder if their dishonesty and opportunism will ever catch up to them.

Sorry for the long ask but I’m frankly pissed!

I think Heath Ledger's Joker pretty much sums up the situation at this point.

I will also say that I completely side-eye the excuse of giving a public statement now due to the kids' term break & Easter holiday. I've seen plenty of rumors that the UK press has known since January that Kate had a medical diagnosis of cancer regarding her operation. This certainly fits in with Tom Bower's statements at the end of February.

If that's true, then KP could have made a simple statement in February when the kids were on their half-term break about her condition, even if they didn't release that specific diagnosis. That statement would have quelled and quieted down all the speculation weeks ago. Except they didn't do that.

I don't buy this notion of making a statement right before they go hide away for three and a half weeks to protect their kids from their school chums, is it? Do six-, nine-, and eleven-year-olds at Lambrook really care about what the media says about their classmates' mother? I find this really hard to believe given that there hardly seems to be any social media pictures of them attending school functions in the two years the kids have been attending school there. Sure, there's one pic here or there, but when the world is wondering "Where is Kate?," I didn't see any news reports quoting Lambrook parents supporting the speculation that Will had secretly offed Kate. Instead the Lambrook parents seem to be pretty keen on keeping the media/press out of their children's schooling. I don't buy the rationale of Kate announced it now due to the kids' break.

I think the British media is a bunch of clowns, and they are still set about continuing to be so. There were rumors circulating that the BBC was on alert for news about Kate a week ago. Lo and behold, the Beeb filmed Kate's video on Wednesday for a Friday night news dump. But last weekend, Roya Nikkhah was publishing KP pr about how Kate would only talk about her health in person to people she visited on engagements. This weekend Roya is writing about how Charles & Kate's cancer is bringing them both together! And yet, she will continue to post drivel-like scraps even if it's a complete fabrication by KP. KP already had a plan to do a video of Kate if rumors were already circulating at the BBC. When is Roya going to stop accepting nonsense from her KP-related sources? When will all of them? I wonder...

[bluishfrog]

Since I have received several anons about this:

No, I do not know what 'critblr' is, nor am I a part of it. From the tone of the messages, it's not something I want to look into.

If you are concerned that you will be shown doxxes or leaked info over my blog: no, you will not. If anyone brings leaked info to my dash, I unfollow that blog. I have no interest in learning personal info about CCs that they don't share themselves in any shape or form.

And most importantly: if I draw something inspired by a fic, it means I enjoyed reading that fic and it inspired me to draw something. Nothing more, nothing less.

I am here to draw art and have fun engaging with fandom works. Maybe I don't fully grasp the situation you are talking about since I have been active here for barely two months, but so far no blog I follow has brought any kind of leaked info, doxxes or something else in that direction to my dash. If that was to happen, I refer back to point 2.

Now let's go back to having fun with art :)

[foxes-that-run]

Have you done a Hunger analysis/can you do one

Hi, I haven't, I love that song though. So here it is:

Hunger

It is about Harry looking back on a relationship he is not over. It was leaked in 20 April 2022, the week he played Coachella. See 2022 timeline if you subscribe to the thought the leaks are timed.

When it was written is less important because it's quite reflective, but based on 'one year into two', if I had to guess, I think this song is from the first week of January 2017:

4 January 2013 - Blue dress on a boat

6 January 2015 - Harry and Taylor were ambiguously dating (and touring) since Valentine's Day 2014. Harry arrived in LA on the 2nd and neither was seen for a few days. Taylor posted this photo with 'This Love' Lyrics. Harry then reappeared. Things seemed tense at Lily Aldridge's birthday on the 19th and Taylor went to Maui with the Haim sisters while Harry stayed in LA. Taylor started dating Calvin a few weeks later.

6 January 2016 - Harry posted this photo of rain on a window. Out of the Woods MV was just released, it aired NYE 2015 in the same show as the last 1D TV appearance.

5 January 2017 - The leak Lately included that it was written on 5 January 2017, He flew to LA on the 6th. Lately was leaked on 6 January 2024. That is one year turning two from 2015:

Lyrics

Candles burnt down to the floor Wearing less than you wore before Shoes sitting by the door never put them on We would stay in my house for days Spilling breakfast on pillowcases Your stuff don’t taste the same Now that you’re gone

The first verse is reminiscing of the good times, of enjoying spending time together in a hedonistic way.

To me the first lines are on New Years Eve 2012 which Taylor also included in New Years Day "Candle wax and Polaroids on the hardwood floor / You and me from the night before". If written in January the shared NYE memory would have been timely.

I love the line "shoes sitting by the door" it sounds to me like they were to go out but stayed in to be together.

"Your stuff don't taste the same" to me is her music, especially Red and 1989, I imagine hearing them after they were actually over would hurt with how much the themes of 1989 especially are "built to fall apart and back together again"

I guess I’m prone to overthinking One thing goes wrong and I can’t adjust I’ve lost the taste for the good in us And I’m sorry

The second verse is talking about feeling sad that Harry wasn't able to keep the relationship and his engagement with it.

"Lost the taste for the good": reminds me of the Two Ghosts, "We're not who we used to be". Two Ghosts was written around Valentines Day 2015, soon after this break up. To Nick Grimshaw Harry said about it "sometimes things change, and you can do all the same things, and sometimes it’s just different, you know". I think this is a similar detached loss of connection, later to Zane Lowe Harry said he was 'just coasting.'

I think with more time for reflection this song has matured to see with regret why he lost the taste for the good in what he lost, which Two Ghosts doesn't get into.

"Prone to overthinking" is interesting, Harry seems like he would. He uses this word again in Grapejuice about Taylor, he acknowledges she worries about other girls and assures he doesn't want anyone else "You're always there, so don't overthink, I'm so over whites and pinks"

We had a hunger then only each other then Couldn’t get enough when we started Always a hunger then now it’s just emptiness We were in love, we were starving We had a hunger then

To me, the song title and chorus has a double meaning:

In the first half of the chorus Harry is singing about Hunger in the sense of an insatiable desire for each other. The bliss of a new relationship where you just want to be together all the time.

This ends with 'now there's just emptiness. He uses emptiness as an analogy for being emotionally depleted in Ever Since New York also "There's no water inside this swimming pool" and in Two Ghosts "We're just two ghosts swimming in a glass half empty"

I hear a second meaning with "we were in love, we were starving." The theme of the song is reflecting on where it went wrong, I think he is referring their mental health and wellbeing at the time as being a factor for why it didn't work out.

We could ruin a perfect night On my birthday I made you cry You told me you learned to drive I guess you lied I could never get sick of you I just bit off more than I could chew And as one year turns into two I’m still not over you, still not over you

As the song says, they are still not over each other.

You told me you learned to drive

This could be read two ways, as many anons have said to me today :)

Taylor used driving as a metaphor for their relationship in Treacherous and throughout 1989 and Harry did in Keep Driving. The line is saying that she told Harry they could make it work but she lied and they didn’t. I really like this interpretation, it reminds me of Fools Gold where he also called her a lair for him feeling like his commitment to their relationship wasn’t reciprocated

This reminds me of of a Gatsby quote Jordan says to Nick: “You said a bad driver was only safe until she met another bad driver? Well, I met another bad driver, didn’t I? I mean it was careless of me to make such a wrong guess. I thought you were rather an honest, straightforward person. I thought it was your secret pride.”

On my birthday I made you cry

Taylor also refers to this in Coney Island the male part sings "Were you standing in the hallway / With a big cake, happy birthday". Sadly there are options for this, I think the big cake is a metaphor for an special gift:

2015, he threw a big party with lots of famous people in LA just before he left for tour. After possibly break up 6 January, on the 17th Taylor shared a photo of her kitchen with the framed Temper Trap Lyrics on her stove, (below). She then went to Maui with the Haim sisters, on the 23rd - 30th (I wonder if Harry was meant to go). On Harry's birthday she was in Nashville.

2013 Taylor had Temper Trap write and sign the correct lyrics/Arm Lyrics/Tattoo and framed it for his birthday, but they broke up before she gifted it. She included it in the photo again in 2015. :( The blue dress on a boat was 4 January, however she was in London on the 21st and rumoured to see him. There were reports she had booked a week in Italy as well as other gifts. Harry had a wild 19th birthday with a £5k bar tab and strippers.

I could never get sick you

I hear "I could never get sick of you" as responding to something said directly to Harry. However, in November 2015 Taylor used those words to Vogue. It's an interesting comment that was foreshadowing the Reputation era. If this song was written in early 2017 it would have been the thick of that:

"I'll need to give people a certain breather from me because at a certain point they're going to get a little sick of hearing about me, so then I'll need to go away for a while and then depending on my gauge on how sick of me they are I'll decide when to put out the next album,"

I just bit off more than I could chew

I think this is the crux of it, Harry was quite young when they started dating and the One Direction schedule of a tour and album every year was intense. In his more recent interviews he's talked about mental health, and his band mates have also spoken about the toll it took on them. I think Harry was not available or ready to provide an older partner who was also anxious the support she was looking for. In his words in To be So Lonely, he "Wasn't ready for it all".

[uninformedartist]

I've brought up my experience and escape with the Viv cult in Lemoncritques blog but I want to provide a more deep exploration on how and why the parasocial relationship took root.

If Vivziepop never got backlash around the time of the Hazbin Pilot the current fandom wouldn't be in this state.

Its a similar situation with Spoctor. Dude almost had his life ruined because of a conspiracy so barely anyone called him out for his actions and gave him the benefit of the doubt out of pity for what happened. Kinda like a permanent viewpoint of Spoctor being a forever victim. But we all know now that Spoctor is gross.

Vivziepop has the forever victim status plastered onto her and you combine it with making her dreams come true. You would kinda see her as a hero or underdog.

The earliest members in the fandom I can recall didn't have this attachment to Medrano but we were sympathetic at bare minimum at first. Then more bad faith reviews or critiques happened do the fandom began to get protective over Hazbin but it was not to the extent the stans are now.

We get livestreams where we can ask the creator herself about the world. The passion she had for it.

I don't know at what point everything changed from a casual and normal fandom to now. I do have a general timeframe which was when season 1 of Helluva started airing and Ayy Lmao began to make videos.

At some point one of the mods for the Hazbin and Helluva subreddit quit. Not out of drama but they were tired.

The thing about the subreddit after uh Sallie May appeared there was a bit of transphobic nonsense happening in the comments and the mods weren't doing shit.

I left for a while

I eventually came back to find Ayy Lmao was a mod.

And while I may have issues with Ayy Lmao dude is pretty much the only active mod and cleans house and knows when not to engage.

I wish we had more active mods besides him because of him being biased and the power he has in the community is stronger due to mod status.

Like I told someone i was trying to post the Kendoc because i had only found it under Lovesart23 video but it was removed for "causing drama"

I know from the leaked discord dms of Ayy Lmao he was the one to remove my post from a throwaway account i made.

I really don't think Ayy Lmao should basically be the sole mod tbh. Because like if Vivziepop started a blood cult with human sacrifices and I posted a link to a news article about that... That post would be removed.

Like the RWBY reddit. The RWBY fandom has 1 to 1 the exact same problems as the Helluva Boss fandom. But they still somehow have a soul like, they had given Roosterteeth employees honorary mod status but when the workplace abuse within the company was revealed the mods basically kicked out all the employee/removed their honorary mod status I forget which. Ayy Lmao and whatever mods remain would never do that.

Hey anon firstly my condolences to what you went through with that fandom. I sympathize with you and wish you well. I wasn't so clued up on the Ayy Lmao situation as I distanced myself from being too involved with what went on there. Just sharing your ask to put it out there for others to see.

[oloreandil]

i've been having random thoughts about death note happening in more recent years, with social media as a widespread method of communication and identification

doxxing / finding names and pictures online is so easy right now, Light getting the power of the eyes would only really hinge on finding out L's name. the few criminals whose identity can't easily be found online would matter to him even less compared to the loss of half your years

i still think Misa would take them for the convenience and romantic appeal of immediate deathly powers (by the way. taking the eyes again steals half your life AGAIN. Light pointedly would not stop her, especially since people's internet presence would have wildly changed already)

rigidly pseudonymous identities outside of your trusted circle would become the norm in my opinion, with web extensions to hide your ID in all previous posts mentioning you, and counter extensions to show them again (popularised by pro-Kira blogs who want to engage in doxxing). i can very well see discourse around "what do you need to hide :/ I'm a publicly law abiding citizen which is why I don't care that my name is out there" as it is literally a "counter argument" in the conversation around privacy laws right now

there would be lots of forum threads on finding out how Kira kills in the same way we have massive discussions around fan theories, and the sheer amount of ideas and brainpower usually leads somewhere, but it's also gonna lead to burying less popular theories regardless of how correct they could be. L and the Task force (and then, Mello and the SPK) would have to sort through thousands of reposts of the same popular arguments

callout culture would be absolutely horrible, too. people would 100% make up fake crimes so Kira would punish someone they don't like, even though i don't think Light would take the Minoru approach of asking people for information. he doesn't trust anyone else to do it properly, but can't get proper sources at first and i'm sure innocent people would get caught in his net. i wonder how that'd reflect on Kira, if people would start to question his god-like powers because of poor media literacy or if people would turn against those who tricked Kira and "tarnished god's hands" or something

those would all be fantastic tools for L, though. fake articles published by real news sources using his influence, but with various kinds of ID available on each criminal so he can pick up which are actually relevant. a variant of his "only in Tokyo" news report but on social media, to see where Kira might have an account and follow that trail. fake profiles of real people to see if Kira would kill them instead of the Lind L Tailor murder on TV. i don't think he'd show his face nearly as quick as he did in the manga, if at all, and he'd definitely never go to uni with Light in case someone gets a picture (or he'd have to do massive damage control to remove every instance of his face posted online, with added pressure after the appearance of the second Kira). i think he'd probably only show his face to the task force or Light when his suspicions are so strong he kidnaps Light and Misa

social media would be banned from the Task Force HQ but it'd be way harder to erase their social presence, especially Aizawa (his wife posts about their family life) and Matsuda (previously very active). that would be one more reason to make them resign from the NPA sooner. reposts of old articles start to appear when people notice that a large part of the Task Force has been wiped from police records - the list of police Kira investigators could have leaked, putting further pressure on them to quit as the pro-Kira crowd massively doxxes them

i'll probably add more to this at some point and i'm really curious if other people wanna share their ideas !