#especially with pyrrha

[semi-see-through]

the ntn family (i have the brainrot)

[kinaesthetiqueer]

that feeling when your new friend is turning into remnant's bloodthirstiest cryptid and no one else knows it, not even her.

art for a scene in chapter 18 of her pulse in my throat

(the other piece for this chapter is here)

[wings-0f-sorrow]

ykw i don't usually do this but here's a wip of another custom outfit I made for pyrrha that im drawing bc it's really cute :-) [I'll put the in-game screenies of it under the cut]

here they are :3 pardon if any of the cropping is weird

[neosmallitan]

Do you ever think about how Jaune begged Pyrrha to not fight Cinder because she was no match for her, and how he didn't want her to sacrifice herself for everyone else. But then when he meets Cinder, his grief immediately drives him to do the same exact thing that Pyrrha did, and he's completely accepting of the fact that he will die if it helps the others

[moltensmusings]

Arkos should've started dating in volume 2 or if they had an additional volume in that one. The dance should've been the catalyst, cut down the Weiss plotline and have volume 2 Jaune already growing feelings for Pyrrha from the beginning without realizing he was.

Imagine Pyrrha talking to her mom about Jaune constantly and him even getting the chance to speak with her digitally or sending a letter their way. Her knowing him and being really excited for Pyrrha focusing on something other than improving constantly.

When pyrrha dies and Jaune Augments her armor with his it's not just that he decided it, it was something her mom wanted. He wanted to bring it back to her but she refused. Because the armor should continue to do what it always did, protected what was precious.

[seasaalttrio]

a thought: augustine was convinced that alecto was incapable of lying or keeping a secret, but she clearly knew, after g1deon ascended, that pyrrha wasn’t gone. and she kept that a secret well enough.

[rahabs]

I’m sorry I just can’t take Pyrrha Jewellery seriously after that lawsuit.

[ro-is-futile]

ive literally never considered the possibility of pyrriona but i just saw a scenario that has me inspired…

like imagine (while alecto still has harrow) pyrrha offers to take gideon to a bar. she needs to let go for a bit, forget about Harrow for just one night, clear her head. gideon agrees, reluctantly at first. but when they get there, and she sees all the pretty femmes, she changes her tune. she’s like a pirate in a pool of gold, swimming in pussy.

they’re both eyeing femmes, hitting on them, plotting amongst themselves. pyrrhas wing-manning for her. but gid can’t hold her liquor, soon enough she’s racing to the bathroom and hunched over a toilet. and pyrrha has to take her home. ever the loving father, she cares for her. she pats gid’s shoulders while she pulls trig, gets her a glass of water, helps her undress, cleans her up as best she can. she gets her into bed. and only then, standing over gideon supine and half-lidded, does pyrrha realize just how much she looks like her mother…

[nicemices]

[kissingdeadgirls]

i never gave a shit about palamedes until nona where he’s mediated through cam’s cracked open grief

[elfieafterdark]

ALSO I HAVE FUCKING THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS!!! BRB I GOTTA DRIVE HOME

Thinking about Gideons "are you EVER too late to come into my life and say that now" feeling betrayed by the fact that someone knew she was out there and didn't come for her all those years vs Pyrrha's "but why'd you bring along the baby" when she's literally about to let Wake kill her. Gideon felt so alone and she's so used to feeling alone that she lashes out at the first suggestion that maybe she wasn't as unloved as she thought because in the moment it just hurts even more but god. Nineteen years and Pyrrha still fucking haunted by Gideon. Her last words trying to find out why Wake would put Gideon in danger. Not why the Ninth, not why let me kill you, not did you ever love me. Why'd you bring the baby. Wake, why did you have to do that to our baby. God. Pyrrha thought Gideon was her fucking baby. Like we talk about Pyrrha saying she never mentioned the baby to John because she thought it was hers but we're ignoring the fact that she found out the baby wasn't hers THIRTY SECONDS AGO. She's been mourning her dead kid for NINETEEN YEARS and she just found out that not only was said kid alive and suffering alone for all those years, shes NOT EVEN HER KID. And still! And still! Pyrrha immediately risks everything to save Gideon. Never considers leaving Gideon behind for an instant. Not for a moment. Live or die she was not leaving that girl's side. And I don't think Pyrrha was disappointed that Nona wasn't Gideon but it really says something that she was so willing to care for this body which was the last place she saw her daughter. Buying her a half-birthday present because what if they don't have birthdays on the Ninth. Thinking about nineteen years that Gideon was alone and she was angsting about it alone in space when she should have been helping her. God. Jesus fucking christ. Pyrrha Dve.

[future-crab]

I know I just made a post about it, but "You can't take loved away," fucks me up SO bad. Nona, who's known that she's dying for ages, facing the fact that regaining her memories is a form of dying that she hasn't prepared for. Nona, who isn't afraid of dying but is so, so scared of becoming someone who doesn't love Camilla, Palamedes, and Pyrrha. Nona, who is love - deep, vibrant, endless love, for the whole world but especially for her family. "I won't love anything... I won't know how."

And Paul. Paul, who's already done the thing Nona is afraid, or at least a version of it. Two people who Nona loved more than anything in the world died and became Paul, and Paul both is and isn't Camilla and Palamedes. Paul, who regardless of whether they are or aren't the people Nona loved, loves Nona. Paul tells her, "Camilla and Palamedes were loved by Nona. Pyrrha was loved by Nona. It's finished, it's done. You can't take loved away. We loved you too. Palamades and Camilla loved you."

And I'm just supposed to be okay after that.

[dammit-tazmuir]

For all the things this fandom refuses to believe and chalks up to John's lies, the thing that baffles me to see so many believe without question is the idea of Perfect Lyctorhood.

Guys. Guys, there is no Perfect Lyctorhood.

Or at best, if there hypothetically could be, it's nothing we've ever seen. Paul is the closest thing and I know a lot of you would not consider Paul perfect. John did not achieve Perfect Lyctorhood, and it wasn't even his idea to claim he did. A quarter of NtN extensively details that he didn't.

The old Lyctors didn't know what Alecto was. John definitely told them more than he would have liked to, because of course she doesn't lie and is too obviously inhuman to hide it fully. But if they knew everything, Mercy wouldn't doubt that Alecto ever had a genetic code; she would know she didn't, or that any genes she might've had were made from John's own blood and bone.

Because they didn't know what she actually was or what actually happened (foreshadowed too by Mercy's "if you had lied about anything else" lines, when actually he did), they drew the wrong conclusion. They assumed something different in his process allowed Alecto to persist. But we now know the truth is that Alecto was simply too big to consume. She didn't die because she was already limitless. This will never apply to another human. But he lets them believe their conclusion because he thinks it's better and easier to talk his way out of than them figuring out the real truth.

It does remain possible that Anastasia and Samael were genuinely on the cusp of that breakthrough, but I honestly doubt it. That was another conclusion drawn by the Lyctors as a follow-up to the previous wrong one, and when John answers, he visibly hesitates. It feels like he's once again going, "....Sssure, yes, let's go with that." I don't know what Samael and Anastasia WERE on the verge of. Maybe they would have become gestalt like Paul, and the possibility of just one dying was why Pal begged Cam "don't look back", and John was afraid of the power they'd achieve (could Paul have greater thalergy than a normal Lyctor?) and/or of just the others seeing a different process and getting mad at him.

AND/OR, ACTUALLY? Especially if their attempt was one of the earlier ones (around the middle rather than the end), but even if it wasn't: I think a Paul situation has a STRONG possibility of being exactly what happened. John's most outright lies are usually the ones other people tell that he just nods along with. When it's from himself, if it's not feigned incompetence, he usually goes for half-truths and misleading truths. He says Anastasia panicked halfway through and if he hadn't stepped in they would have both died. I think it's very possible that John panicked halfway through as he realized what they were doing, and that it's genuinely true they would have both died— in the same way Camilla and Palamedes both died, to create someone new.

And we know how much John hates change. How desperately John needs to keep his specific people close. What are the odds he was so afraid of losing both of them and being left with a new person he didn't know, couldn't predict, and couldn't easily control with them having a whole Lyctor's power and maybe more? Especially if Cyth and Loveday, Cassy and Nigella, Cyrus and Valancy, Ulysses and Titania, maybe even G1deon and Pyrrha— if any others hadn't undergone the process yet, and there was a chance they'd see Samastastia and decide that was the path they wanted too. If he thought this meant he might lose all his friends instead of only the less favored half.

Either way, though, based on everything we know, there is no simple soul swap that results in dual immortality. Even John and Alecto involve a fusion of megasoul. "You and she are one." (This is also likely how a seemingly real facet of John could talk to Harrow in Alecto's dream.) And we've seen through NtN, the soul longs for the body. The body longs for the soul. A body housing a different soul doesn't last long, even when those souls ARE semi connected. A body even temporarily renting space to a foreign soul is a massive strain, like Cam carrying Pal.

Lyctorhood inherently involves death and consumption and acting against nature. It is the indelible sin. It's possible that Grand Lysis avoids that sin by making it about mutual death, about giving instead of taking, but it's still bittersweet at best. I highly doubt we're going to see a perfect solution that fixes everything, at least via more necromancy, because that's not the kind of series this is. It's messy, beautiful in its flaws, embracing the understanding that life is change and things can never be exactly as they were, and can rarely be exactly what you want, and letting go and moving on are necessary parts of life eventually.

Don't misunderstand! I do think Gideon will either be resurrected (perhaps the last true one ever) or there will be another way for her and Harrow to happily be together. In Gideon's case, there was nothing natural about her death, and the decision to say "no" is a rejection of the system that led to it.

I just also think the odds of rewriting the laws of life and death entirely are more likely than Lyctorhood But With No Consequences. It always has consequences. There is no Perfect Lyctorhood, but there's something good on the horizon, whatever form it takes. After all...

"There are more worlds than this. Come with us. We are the love that is perfected by death, but even death will be no more. Death can also die. There's still time, Ianthe. Time for you and for Naberius Tern."

[d1mndnthr0ugh]

okie uhh here's this I guess

@quab00 @averyintrovertedfangirl @theabyssinyourcloset @jadegr8 @spacecowboy-01 @kalcium-yippee @actinicoctarinegirl @lawhiterabbit @thisisntrocket

Not me having some kinda type... Who shall I tag? I think I wanna tagggggg... @mybugsmybugsmybugs @mexicangela @lunar-years @biscuitboxpink but no pressure!! I just thought it would be fun!

[calciumyum]

I love Patroclus and Pyrrhus' dynamic in my modern au

Brief and simplified Story Timeline under the cut!

Early childhood

Patroclus acted out a lot as a kid, especially after his mother's death. An accident in the playground caused another kid's death, but Patroclus was declared innocent thanks to eye witnesses (Pat still believes it's his fault)

Patroclus was in foster care after Menoetius got convicted for child neglect, he was 10.

Peleus took him in and Achilles immediately became so attached to him

Patroclus is so scared of Thetis and he feels indebted to Peleus

Achilles is a nepo baby!! Peleus and especially Thetis are so influential

Boarding School era

When Thetis noticed that Achilles seemed very dependent on Patroclus, she came up with the idea of separating them (she wants her son to be more independent)

Achilles was about to be sent to a boarding school when he's 13

Patroclus managed to sneak into the train with him and ended up going to the same school

Patroclus and Achilles began secretly dating when they're 15

Deidamia

Lycomedes and Thetis thought it'd be nice to get Achilles and Deidamia to know each other

Achilles began seeing Deidamia when they're 16 and asked Patroclus if he could date her as well

Patroclus (reluctantly) agreed because Achilles promised that nothing would change between them

Deidamia is in the girls' dorm, so Achilles used to dress up as a girl to sneak into her room.

Being the dumb irresponsible teenagers they are, Deidamia got pregnant

Achilles told Patroclus that Deidamia wanted to keep the baby and that they're gonna send the baby over to Thetis while they're in school

When Achilles told Patroclus, Patroclus lashed out and refused to talk to Achilles for. 12 hours. (The longest they've gone without talking)

For a brief moment Thetis blamed Patroclus for not paying enough attention to Achilles, believing that he was trying to ruin her son's name and reputation

This entire situation was hell for Patroclus. He thought he had lost both his foster family and his Achilles.

Baby Pyrrhus

Achilles and Deidamia thought it'd be funny to name the baby after Pyrrha

Deidamia and Achilles aren't married yet, but Deidamia spends her school break at Achilles' house to spend time with their son

The moment Achilles graduated from school when he's 18, Peleus got him a deal to be an intern at Agamemnon's company overseas. Achilles said he would only go if Patroclus comes with him

Deidamia got full custody of Pyrrhus because he's only 2 and can't possibly be passed around between her and Achilles if he moves overseas, though she now lives with Peleus and Thetis

Achilles and Deidamia broke up because they can't handle a long distance relationship, but they stayed friends

Troy

Achilles and Patroclus stayed in Turkey for years and would only fly back home once or twice. He kept in touch with Pyrrhus from video calls which didn't happen often

Achilles began getting custody for Pyrrhus when he was 12, where he would fly to Turkey on school breaks

Achilles isn't used to having Pyrrhus around, so he left all the parenting stuff to Patroclus

Achilles would occasionally bring Pyrrhus to work too when they don't have anyone to watch over him at home

Pyrrhus is mad at Patroclus because he thought he's the reason Achilles left him and his mother

He also hates that Achilles is a lot closer to Patroclus and would rather spend time with him than Pyrrhus

Will add more overtime but this is the full timeline so far!!

[k1ngs0da]

Glynda Goodwitch being Jaune’s Aunt has got to be the funniest headcanon ever. Imagine knowing your nephew damn well did not get trained at all by his parents, and suddenly he’s being accepted into Beacon and just launched at the Grimm. Like you’re watching him bumble around and somehow failboy his way into getting the feelings of Pyrrha-Fucking-Nikos, terrified that he’s gonna trip and die because you know for a fact he did not have aura before initiation. And any time you try and bring these concerns up to your boss he just smirks and drinks his coffee.

Actual maximum stress for her, ESPECIALLY when Ozpin picked Pyrrha to be the Fall Maiden. Glynda had to have been panicking because she would have to explain this to him.