#gotham knights 1x10

[booasaur]

Heya! What did you think of the latest Gotham Knights? I don't wanna ask spoilery or leading questions if you haven't seen it yet?

I was finally JUST able to watch it last night and it was craaaazy. There was so much Sharper, they used the word Sharper!

It was really strong Harper->Stephanie stuff, at least, we don't really know what Stephanie yet feels, she's very friendly and a bit flirty but not to the point of confirming anything. "Like a brother to me" should have shut the door on Turner/Stephanie, but then we have next week's preview...

Based on how TV stories are normally told, it still feels like Turner/Duela and Sharper are the stronger pairs. Given the many parts of this love square and that it's a 13 ep season, for Turner/Stephanie (if it is them and not Turner hallucinating) to already happen by ep 10 means it's not the big climactic romance and we still have three eps for more to play out with it all. Whatever happens first isn't "settled", basically.

Even if, we then get more activity for the other two ships only to come back to this one by the end of the season, it just feels extremely unlikely to me that they'd stick with this one ship permanently and leave Duela and Harper with no one. And not just because they've spent far more time developing Turner/Duela (what's their ship name, lol) and Sharper romantically than Turner/Stephanie. Hell, the Turner/Stephanie hug and handhold this ep were half for the purpose of letting us see Duela and Harper's reactions.

Still, two little obstacles to happy Sharper. That "you always go for the himbo or straight girl" talk from Cullen was interesting. The point of a discussion like that, well, the point of anything at all in fictional media is to prompt some kind of action or change. Here, it's made Harper take more seriously the idea that Stephanie is straight and not a realistic option for her and then being in the right (or wrong) place to have that seemingly confirmed by the handhold. We the audience know that was platonic (in the moment, lol, that damn preview--well, and to be fair, that one scene a few eps back), but now most likely the next eps will have Harper withdraw from Stephanie a bit, possibly to prompt Stephanie to then ask what's up?

The other possible consequence of that discussion is to make Harper and the audience really think it's true, that she only goes for unattainable people and should focus on opening herself up to someone serious, but, lol, who? There's no OTHER queer girl that we've seen and the only other guy she's not related to is Turner, which, that would be truly ridiculous. I mean, there's Brody, but she literally hasn't said a single word to him and how would he not fall in the himbo category, if Dylan does.

The other issue, of course, is the fact that when this was written, the CW was still giving blanket renewals, so the writers may have set up a cliffhanger or very temporary end to this season, confident in the knowledge they'd get another one, but in the new climate this could very well be the true end. Just gonna have to see how this plays out, I guess.

[clairedelune-13]

I hate how GK is just now starting to get somewhere. Its actually ok in terms of quality…

…and the season is almost over! If it gets a second season, by some gd miracle, the writers need to improve their tactic. Take notes from Arrow.

[becauseofthebowties]

MISHA COLLINS as HARVEY DENT in GOTHAM KNIGHTS | 1.10 Poison Pill

[jesterofalltrades]

Wait wait WAIT!!!! Steph didn’t feel right with kissing Brody and didn’t feel right with kissing Turner…. I mean that doesn’t have to mean gay but this is drama filled teen angst tv so this most certainly means GAY.

Hoist the flag! We have another one!

[sweetcitrusboi]

He looked so sad this episode like my heart 😭

[atlas-assbutt]

Rebecca March dominates Lincoln and nobody can change my mind

[inacatastrophicmind]

Misha Collins as Harvey Dent in Gotham Knights 1x10

[televisionpromos]

Gotham Knights 1x10 "Poison Pill" Promo - RACE AGAINST THE CLOCK — With one of their own in trouble, the team scrambles to find a solution before it’s too late. Elsewhere, Harvey undertakes a risky gambit to get the answers he seeks. Finally, Brody turns to Stephanie after he stumbles upon some information involving his father Lincoln. Oscar Morgan, Olivia Rose Keegan, Navia Robinson, Fallon Smythe and Tyler DiChiara also star. Elizabeth Henstridge directed the episode written by Nicki Holcomb & Summer Plair. Original airdate 5/30/2023.

[found--family]

Harvey Dent in Gotham Knights 1x10 Poison Pill promo 

[booasaur]

Hello Boo, I'm the one whom sent you the teaser of GK som time ago.

After today's episode it seems like now we know when that scene is going to happen.

what do you think it will be?

I adore your opinions.

Oh, hi! Thank you! :)

Haha, I definitely sat up and took notice at the lighting in the preview. It's time for the club/dancing scene! I'm honestly not sure what it'll be... I really hadn't expected Duela/Turner to happen this quickly, so I wonder if Sharper is up next. It's hard to interpret those few frames from the trailer as anything other than the start of something more explicitly romantic, but the timing of it is the question, both in terms of the individual ep as well as the whole season.

If the club scene is early on, as the preview made it seem, I just don't see how it'll be, what, a confession? A kiss? Because then what's the rest of the ep for? Certainly not them being just happy off together, right, even though we didn't see any of them in the rest of the preview. Most TV eps are structured so that you have the first parts of it setting up the plot and asking questions that the last scenes then resolve and answer and you get your fade to black. Like with Duela and Turner in ep 10, though, you know, I would have expected a scene with Carrie and Turner to cap off their earlier fight. If not an apology, then at least a thank you for saving his life and risking major damage to her relationship with her mom. Maybe the next ep...or not, if it's gonna be multi-ep, it may take a while for Turner to soften.

Speaking of apologies, Stephanie has been pretty forgiving of Harper's sniping but it's clearly hitting harder now that they've actually been getting along. How are they gonna get from that to where they're dancing? Maybe Harper's nicer and Stephanie takes advantage, or she might just ignore Harper's attitude and pull her into a dance? So many possibilities! Oh, I wonder if Harper finds out that Stephanie turned down Turner?? But anyway, I do think Harper should apologize to Stephanie at some point. Not just because she doesn't know what Stephanie's actually going through at home, but because even if Stephanie's life was perfect, she just doesn't deserve being treated like that. Ah, though, given we saw just how bad the situation is with Stephanie's parents, that has to come up again and I wonder if this time the rest will find out and Harper will realize how wrong she's been.

But to go back to the dance, if it is romantical, I feel like either it'll get interrupted or something else will come up during the ep, hopefully to be resolved by the end. If it does explicitly go romantic this ep, I wonder what that leaves for the last two eps. There's so much other plot to deal with, including Stephanie having to deal with Brody...dying? Being resurrected? Being resurrected as the Talon? And I'm really hoping the group's able to clear their names by the end of this season, but I fear the current vigilantes-wanted-for-murder angle is too good for the writers to give up so quickly.

It'd be pretty funny, lol, if after all this the dance ends up being mostly fun and playful from Stephanie's side while Harper is internally panicking like crazy and then we have to wait for more.

[jacks-wack-attack]

I am so invested in Gotham Knights right now, like I swear these episodes are going by so quickly and I want MORE. Each character is so much fun and I am truly enjoying this, honestly. Stephanie being super helpful and not cracking under Harvey’s questioning (which I would have cracked under in a heartbeat, just looking at him - I’m sorry, I’m weak for Misha). Harper and Cullen both getting more screentime and being badasses, sticking by everyone even in trouble. Duela stealing the show and bantering with everyone, especially Turner. Turner and Carrie both fighting Talon together. Harvey wanting to prove Turner is innocent while evidence piles up against him (plus roasting elected officials)

I just. I am so curious and excited to see what happens because I am having a blast. 

But also, when Misha answered questions about what his favorite episode is and which made him most emotional. A) He looks great in that video, may I just say. But B) He says that episode 1x10 gave HIM brain damage? The man who killed the internet on November 5, 2020? HE is getting brain damage from this episode? I take brain damage every time I see him on my screen, I love him. I’m going to pass away watching that episode.

[dotthings]

Gotham Knights ep 1x10 "Poison Pill"

Maybe I could just sit here making flappy hand noises about Misha's portrayal of Harvey Dent. But I also do have some coherent toughts.

This ep was a wild ride. I'm enjoying the GK team relationship dynamics, and Misha's depiction of Harvey is absolutely superb.

With an extra big gift basket of thanks to writers Nicki Holcomb and Summer Plair

Harvey + alt Harvey (not Two Face yet)

“When we were kids, we used to talked to each other in our dreams. Meet in the middle, we called it” “you’re a sucker for the truth”

There's so much I like about this--it's like Alt Harvey is an imaginary friend. He comforted child Harvey. Protected child Harvey. But it took a pathological twist. Alt Harvey knows all about Harvey. And he knows how good Harvey prime is. He wants the truth. He's decent. Alt Harvey plays on that--he knew what buttons to push. Harvey's quest for justice, for truth, for fairness.

“Whenever it got too tough I’d tag in” “I do the things that you can’t do”

Alt Harvey is a facet of Harvey, it's a facet in humanity. Primal. Fight or fight. Survival. Kill or be killed. But with all the safeties and inhibitions off.

“You don’t want justice. You want to burn it all down”

Misha really broke out a bit of Batman gravel there, in the scene where alt Harvey strangles Harvey. Fits in with what I talked about in one of my early posts about GK. What Alt Harvey (Two Face) is for Harvey is a little bit what Batman is for Bruce. Two Face is Harvey's version of Batman, and with Batman dead, Harvey needs someone to fill the void Batman left. Batman represents the darker parts of Bruce's psyche, and is something to comfort that scared grieving little boy, the moment of trauma, to fix Gotham, try and prevent that trauma from happening to other families. So Bruce let the bat out. The difference is Bruce never lost himself. Bruce had nurturing parents and then he had Alfred guiding and protecting him.

Harvey loses himself entirely to it--his trauma is different than Bruce's. Bruce and Harvey are somewhat mirror images, them and their alter egos are flip sides of a similar coin. But different methods. Alt Harvey's path to justice is destructive. Batman's is different. He embraces violence, but he's not about burning it all down, he's about protecting and building. Embracing the darkness in order to hold back the darkness.

Harvey's the fire, Bruce is the night.

And so it was a gaslight routine from the Court. Not TF taking over and doing things...I kinda thought that would be the case. They're playing Harvey. Wanted to get one of the only decent leaders in Gotham out of the way. Harvey's a threat to the Court, the Court is a threat to Harvey. Harvey and alt Harvey have a common enemy.

Turner not buying the story the Court fed him about Bruce but afraid it’s true and then finding out it’s true is poignant. He sincerely was choosing to believe in Bruce, so extra ouch on finding out it might be after all. But we still don't know the whole story, what exactly happened. I was right Bruce blamed himself. But did he kill the Hayes'? Or did he fail to save them. Carrie confirms that in this continuity, it's following the core tenet of Batman. “Batman doesn’t kill, he told me that over and over” and “he felt responsible”--feeling responsible doesn't mean he murdered them.

The Row siblings, Turner and Duela, Carrie, Steph -- I really enjoyed how the personal dynamics there played out, and Duela calling Turner on his broody bs after we saw the entire team working to save him. It seems like there's still spots of distrust among them, but they keep becoming closer as a team family at the same time. Cullen wants to stay. To hold onto that family after their names are cleared...Harper says she wants to leave. (But does she really? I think she's miserable because she thinks her feelings for Steph can't possibly be requited--she may change her view of the overall group, once she and Steph find their way to each other).

The picture gets sharper and sharper doesn't it. Turner/Duela have an enjoyable dynamic as well.

So Rebecca is the femme fatale role. This is classic Hollywood noir. I wasn't all that shocked by it since I wondered if Rebecca would follow that archetype but holy crap I did not see it coming that she'd kill her own son.

Carrie telling her mom she's Robin!!!

Is Brody the next Talon, then?

[jesterofalltrades]

So Lincoln brought Brody back to life. I wonder what this is gonna mean and cause

[sweetcitrusboi]

I have the full vid of these scene but I’m getting tired and don’t feel like cropping but god this scene—

Misha’s acting showed so hard here and I got literal chills it was just so good. Especially with fugue harvey just gritting out his pure anger and normal harvey fighting with everything he’s got. Like y’all I had to pace around my living room during this. I NEED to see Misha in more roles like this

[100hearteyes]

Watching Gotham Knights 1x10 - SPOILER WARNING - because I said I wouldn't keep watching but then the rep made me stay (and it's sliiiightly better now than in the first three episodes) and IS STEPHANIE ACTUALLY A LESBIAN??? She just said she felt NOTHING while kissing both Son of Villain and Annoying White Cishet Main Boi! Like?! That's lesbian?!

[egoismt]

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Your Bat Is Dead: A 'Gotham Knights' Podcast

On this week’s episode of ‘Your Bat Is Dead,’ someone finally has a worse day than Harvey as both Brody and Turner make their cases. Sidebars include medical PSAs from our resident RN, Stephanie's search for sparks, Jules' villain problem, and Mal's squee for #Tuela!

You can find us on Twitter and Instagram @YourBatIsDead, and our show is available wherever you listen to podcasts. Be sure to head to Nerds and Beyond for all your nerdy news in a variety of fandoms, including 'Gotham Knights'. This show is produced by Mal Windsor and Jules Thompson for Nerds and Beyond, and our theme music is by Kenedi Lynch.

---- A discussion of CW Gotham Knights 1x10.