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kitausuret · 1 year
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I know that in retrospect the time that Harry changed his surname to "Lyman" ended up not being like... such a great thing (since All That Stuff came out about Emily during Go Down Swinging) but like
it actually brings me so much joy to call him Harry Lyman. It makes me grin my face off. Adding that "Harry's Last Name is Lyman" tag is everything to me. He's separating himself from the Osborn legacy. He's trying to find his own identity. He's a dad, he's a failed CFO, he's trying to figure himself out again in his late 20s/early 30s but he's in a place where he actually seems to feel pretty good about himself. And for Harry, that's really cool.
I understand why he dropped the Lyman name and reverted back to Osborn, but the era was nice to me while it lasted.
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(Amazing Spider-Man [2015] #3; Slott, Camuncoli)
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I had an idea
And maybe it’s because I’m sick with 💀🦠 that I think it’s a totally good idea to share it
But I kinda like the idea of Harry going by his middle name to hide from his dad or maybe disassociate himself from the Osborn name
Like how he went by Harry Lyman for a little while
I just think that him going by Theo Lyman would be a fun way of introducing him without Peter being able to make the Osborn connection
Also him being able to go by the nickname teddy is also adorable to me?
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theopolis · 2 months
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We're finally doing this? WE'RE FINALLY DOING THIS???
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Please feel free to explain your reasoning! Bonus points: specify which version of the Spider-Man you're most familiar with (Raimi, TASM, comics, cartoons, Insomniac games) and if that influences your answer. I'm dying to know what people think.
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hedutar · 3 months
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”Nighty Night, Son”
It's often said that the first year of parenthood can be challenging, especially for those who are welcoming their first child into the family. The birth of a new life is a profound moment that can shift your perspective on the world and yourself in ways you never imagined. Suddenly, you are entrusted with the care of a tiny, helpless being. For young Norman Osborn, this reality was not immediately apparent. While he was thrilled to learn he was going to be a father, he also harbored concerns about his ability to raise a child given his troubled past. Thankfully, his partner Emily stood by his side, offering reassurance that they would navigate parenthood together and that Norman would excel as a father.
Their son, Harry, proved to be a joyous addition to their family, despite being born with breathing difficulties and putting Emily's life at risk during childbirth. As they overcame these initial challenges, Norman and Emily found themselves enamored with their son. Harry was a content and easygoing baby, rarely crying and sleeping peacefully through the night. However, Norman's past traumas occasionally resurfaced in the form of anxiety about potential dangers that could befall their child.
"Honey, nothing bad will happen. Harry is healthy and everything is fine. Please stop worrying."
"Yes, I try, but I can't help my thoughts. I wasn't looked after and often got into trouble. I'm just trying to avoid that with our baby."
"You're so cute when you're nervous. Trust me, things will get easier as Harry grows older."
"Hopefully..."
However, life doesn't always follow the script written in textbooks. A particularly challenging time arose when Harry turned four years old. Suddenly, he refused to sleep in his own bed and insisted on being next to his parents every night. Norman was puzzled by this sudden change in behavior. Why did his son no longer want to sleep in his own room? This was a new development that had never occurred before.
"Why isn't he comfortable in his room anymore? Have we done something wrong?" Norman asked Emily one morning when Harry once again wanted to spend the night with them.
"It's a normal stage of development. Children seek comfort and security from their parents when they are young. Harry is still so little, and the world is full of unknowns for him. There's nothing unusual about it," his wife reassured him. Norman, however, was not convinced. "I don't think this is normal. I was taught to sleep alone as soon as I could walk. Something must have happened."
"Norman, I understand your concerns, but the way you were raised, being left alone at such a young age, was not right. Children deserve love and care from their parents. Harry is fine, trust me. Your worry is affecting him," Emily warned her husband. Despite his wife's reassurances, Norman remained unconvinced. He felt the need to talk to his son as soon as possible. The opportunity arose that same afternoon when Harry returned home with his nanny. Norman was waiting at the door, and as soon as the nanny left, he sat down with his son on the couch, ready to have a heart-to-heart conversation.
"Listen, son, there is something I want to talk with you."
"Ok, what is it, Daddy?"
"Well we have noticed that you have been avoiding sleeping in your room recently, and we are curious as to why. You used to enjoy spending time in there, so what has changed?"
Harry gazed at his father with his small, button-like eyes for an extended period before uttering words that caught Norman completely off guard.
"Because I'm scared."
"Why?"
"Because the boogeyman will take me if I sleep there."
"What boogeyman?"
"The one who comes to see me at night."
Norman was perplexed by the situation at hand. As a child, he had been frightened by the idea of monsters lurking in his closet, but he had always taken precautions to ensure his safety. Therefore, he viewed Harry's claims with skepticism and perhaps a hint of annoyance.
"Come on now. There's no such thing as monsters. You're just trying to avoid sleeping in your room," Norman stated firmly. Harry's response was immediate and defensive. "I'm not making it up! I'm telling the truth!" he insisted.
Norman raised a hand to interject. "Harry, I'm not in the mood for jokes. You know the consequences of lying."
Harry's eyes welled up with tears. "But I'm not lying, Daddy! Please believe me!"
Norman's tone grew stern. "That's enough. Starting tonight, you will be sleeping in your own room. It's time you faced your fears. Do you understand?"
Harry's expression shifted from hurt to defiance as he silently stormed out of the room. Norman let out a frustrated sigh and rose from his seat, feeling conflicted about the situation.
Boogeymen...tsk! He's so stubborn. However, he now realizes that there is no danger, and he can sleep peacefully on his own without any worries.
Over the next few days, Harry stopped coming to his parents at night, leaving Emily puzzled. One evening, she brought up the issue with Norman at bedtime and inadvertently overheard their conversation. This discovery left her feeling upset.
"You can't be serious. He's just a child, Norman! You can't dismiss his feelings like that!" Emily exclaimed. Norman defended himself, "I'm just trying to teach him not to panic over nothing. He needs to learn to take care of himself."
Emily retorted, "Do you even realize the harm you're causing to his young mind? He is our son! Who else will protect him if not us?"
Before Norman could respond, Emily continued, "You sound just like your father. Do you want Harry to experience the same treatment you did as a child? To have his fears ignored and receive cold treatment from his own father?"
Norman was taken aback by Emily's words. He realized his mistake and swallowed his pride. "I...I didn't mean it. I just wanted..."
Emily interrupted, "I know you want to toughen Harry up, but this isn't the right approach. Childhood is fleeting, and he has a lifetime to become a strong man. Don't let your past demons rob you of these precious moments."
Norman nodded in understanding. He thanked Emily, gave her a kiss, and rushed to Harry's room. Upon entering, he discovered that Harry was not in his bed. Panic set in until he heard soft sobbing coming from the closet. Opening the doors, he found Harry sitting on the floor, tears streaming down his face.
"Hey, what's wrong? Why are you here?" Norman asked gently, kneeling beside him. Harry sniffled, "I was having nightmares..."
"What kind of nightmares? About the boogeyman?"
"Yeah..."
"Why didn't you come to us?"
"Because you said I couldn't...so I tried to figure it out myself..."
Norman was overwhelmed with shame as he witnessed his son's tears, brought on by his thoughtless words. Reflecting on his past mistakes, he realized he was dangerously close to following in the footsteps of Ambrose, a father he never wanted to emulate. Fortunately, Norman recognized his error in time. "I'm sorry, I was wrong," he choked out, tears welling in his eyes. "Your mother and I are here to protect you, and I foolishly believed I knew best in this situation. Can you forgive me?"
"It's okay, Daddy. Please don't cry," Harry reassured him with a smile. Norman scooped his son into his arms and carried him to their room. "From now on, you can sleep with us for as long as you'd like. And if the boogeyman dares to bother you, I promise to banish it. You mean the world to me."
"Thanks, Daddy!"
As they entered the bedroom, Emily greeted them with open arms. "Hey, there comes my little prince!"
"Mommy! Daddy said he'll chase away the monster if it bothers us!" Harry exclaimed excitedly. "Really?" Emily replied, amused.
"I do," Norman gently laid Harry on the bed, and the boy nestled under his mother's arm while Norman settled in beside them.
"We have a true superhero in the family now, don't we, Harry?" Emily affectionately tousled her son's hair. "Yeah, Daddy's the best!" Harry beamed.
"Thank you both. Harry, did you know that I too was scared of the boogeyman when I was little?"
"Wow, you were??" Harry asked.
"Yes, but I didn't have anyone to push it away. You'll always have us. I'm still sorry for what I said before. I'll never belittle your feelings again," Norman smiled. Harry nodded and yawned, soon falling asleep.
"Well done, Mr. Osborn," Emily purred. "You're quite charming when you apologize."
"Oh really? Maybe we can put it to the test tomorrow when Harry is with your parents," Norman grinned back. He then looked at his sleeping son and smiled.
Nighty night, son. Love you.
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devoutlywished · 2 months
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if our love died, would that be the worst thing?
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realnormanosborn · 2 months
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drempen · 1 year
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Thank you! Um... May I request Emily Lyman-Osborn please? If you feel like including any of the Osborn men, please feel free?
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Here she is, Mrs. Osborn herself (also featuring a tiny baby Harry)
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hawkogurl · 4 months
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Listen I think that redeeming Raimi Norman can be accomplished if you acknowledge he’s responsible for his behavior and don’t excuse it and just have him change aka the thing a redemption arc should be BUT know that if in the process you make Emily or Caroline Mulder or whoever the hell Harry’s mom was in this situation out to be worse or more abusive or more of a villain or in any way imply that Norman’s behavior was caused by her I am in your walls and you will not survive the night.
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spider-xan · 5 months
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I was thinking about the recent ret-con in the 616 continuity where Emily Osborn has been alive the entire time and how if TSSM had continued, then Emily was going to be revealed as being just as bad, if not even worse, than Norman, and how by comparison, the Emily of the Insomniac games is portrayed as a saint - but at the same time, we mostly only know of her through Harry and Norman, both of whom idolize her, and that idolatry is undoubtedly reinforced by her tragic death, as people are wont to do after their loved ones die.
However, I think she would be more interesting and complex as a character if there was more to her than just being the perfect angelic dead wife, mother, and activist - she did, after all, love and marry and stay with Norman the entire time, despite him being a horrible person, and I don't doubt she knew what was going on about his true nature, and even if she somehow didn't, this guy is a shady corporate CEO billionaire, so no way would he be an ethical person; it's interesting that 'environmental lawyer' is also an effective short-hand for 'lawyer who is a good person' even though in real life, a lot of environmental lawyers actually end up defending corporations and their right to pollute and exploit, and even a lot of Harry's well-intentioned environmental projects are very eco-capitalist techbro start up rather that solving the systemic root causes of climate change, like capitalism.
Anyway, not sure where I was going with this, but I guess I feel like there is a lot of potential for Emily to be a more complex character than simply the perfect dead woman defined by her relationships to her husband and son, and there absolutely could be more layers to the symbiote using her voice to manipulate Harry in the graveyard scene.
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I noticed that Harry often acts like the breaks when it comes to physical fights. It's funny because he does influence how scenes play out, but it's in subtle way. I also wonder if it's a habit he formed from growing up with a man with a quick temper - if he often prevented his father from getting into physical altercations.
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hawkp · 6 days
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WIP Ask Game 🎈
Nobody tagged me, I just took it upon myself because these ideas keep bouncing around my head like a ping pong ball.
Prompt: Make a new post with the names of all the files in your WIP folder, regardless of how non-descriptive or ridiculous. Let people send you an ask with the title that most intrigues them, and then post a little snippet or tell them something about it! And then tag as many people as you have WIPs.
stolen from @onekisstotakewithme 😁
Three Weddings and a Funeral (TWW): You already know.
Prose and Cons (TWW): Abbey Bartlet takes care of a sick Senior Advisor at 30,000 feet. This is so fluffy ONG sickening.
Tilting at Windmills (TWW): He’d make it through this the same way he’d made it through everything else: grinning and bearing it. If there’s one thing everyone knows about Will Bailey it’s that he won’t ever ask for help.
The Moon Is Not Blue (TWW): During preparation for the State of the Union, Sam develops an addiction to stimulants.
This Is Where I Leave You (TWW): Nothing like a tragedy to bring a broken family back together or the everybody talks it out after the finale at Jed’s funeral fic.
Period of Adjustment (DS9): After receiving a message from Earth, Julian starts to sink deeper into himself. His friends try to figure out why. (Post-Canon)
Sequentia (Voyager): Tom hadn’t realized how much Harry’s friendship meant to him until his life almost slips through their fingers. (An alternate ending to “Non Sequitur”)
Aftershocks (SNW): He’s supposed to be the big brother. (A Sam & Jim SNW fic because we are seriously lacking in fic there people)
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theopolis · 5 months
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My problem with Emily Osborn/Lyman being revealed to have been alive all along is not so much the fact that she abandoned her baby son in the custody of an abuser whilst letting him believe she'd died. Yay for toxic female characters.
It's more that this was not remotely treated with the weight it deserved when it could have been the perfect opportunity to explore her personality and relationship with Norman as well as delve deeper into Harry's pre-established abandonment issues. Emily's reintroduction should have added new fuel to the ever so compelling fire of Osborn Family Drama but alas, it did not and Harry shrugged off learning one of the most fucked up facts about his already deeply fucked up little life.
Congratulations! You brought this character who was practically just a concept into the story and you did it with a bang by establishing glaring faults counter to the bland saintlike perception everyone previously had of her while also granting her added complexity by having her try to iron out her previous wrongs! Now actually commit to giving her depth and let her impact things, please.
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timaeuslover001 · 12 days
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Harry Osborn Headcanon
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Harry doesn’t have a lot of memories of his mother but none memory he does have of her is her smile and blond hair.
After she died in a sudden plane accident Norman fueld by hurt, pain and anger Burned all of his photos of her they had together even the ones of her and harry as a baby.
Nothing of her survived and Norman made sure to keep a safe distance away from her friends in the industry.
Harry asked about them when he got older and his father just said they got ruined a long time ago and harry accepted
Until one day a photographer ran into harry one day invited him to get some of his mom’s old photos and even a compilation of her interviews and commercials he had. He even had a few of them together as a baby.
Harry cherished them deeply and didn’t tell his dad he found them he just kept them to himself
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oliveroctavius · 2 years
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I love referring to comic characters previous aliases that they no longer answer to as their "deadname"
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