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i feel like not enough ppl are factoring in the cultural clash between laios and shuro and the many micro agressions shuro faced while being in their group. literally the name 'shuro' in itself is one
his name is toshiro 😭 lets also not forget that he has his own communication issues, in the opposite way that laios does- thats literally a factor in their argument, that his envy for laios's ability to express himself sincerely manifested as part of his distaste for him.
ig all this to say like, was their fight heart wrenching, especially when reading laios as autistic? absolutely. anybody whos ever been in laios's position knows how much it hurts to realize someone you thought was your friend doesnt actually like having you around, especially when they didnt tell you and you had no way of knowing due to not understanding their cues. but im begging yall to step back and see the nuance of this situation cause im gonna be real a lot of you are kinda just brushing over it acting like everything is toshiros fault and that hes a terrible person when in reality hes an average guy who really, really clashed with laios and it led to a very long misunderstanding due to their supremely opposite methods of communication. even laios and toshiro, after letting everything out in their fight, were able to come to an understanding and start a foundation for an actual friendship built on better communication
ok yknow what Edit: i shouldve made it even more explicit at the end of this post, i hadnt thought i would need to since i started the post with this, but i think a few too many people are missing my point so i just wanna clarify. i shouldnt have said 'really clashed' and left it at that because yeah they did, but it wasnt just their opposite methods of communication, it is also very much that toshiro was experiencing microaggressions via laios. it may have been unintentional on laios's part, but it still happened and wore him down, made it harder for him to communicate on top of both the more subtle social cues that he was raised with and his own communication difficulties. i also want to say that the fandom reaction to toshiro and the complete ignorance of this point is also racist tbh or at the very least ignorant. i understand that the anime did not cover this panel, and neither did the manga, as this was an omake, but im gonna be real with you guys. there are enough context clues within the story to clue you into this. if you didnt pick up on it thats ok, but i think this is a good lesson in picking up subtext in the stories that youre watching and/or reading. kui shouldnt have to explicitly say 'by the way laios was racist to toshiro' for this point to be understood, and at the very least, when the author portrays a character in a sympathetic light (as kui clearly does) it should make you question Why they are doing so and what makes them sympathetic, rather than youre immediate and only reaction to be 'well i hated what this guy did/said so i hate them and they suck'. idk exactly how to finish this, just. idk. question your biases and gut reactions to things you see in media and stories, and think about whether or not theres subtext that youre missing.
#dunmeshi#dungeon meshi#shuro dungeon meshi#delicious in dungeon#toshiro nakamoto#dont get me wrong i understand relating to a character and hating whoever wrongs them cause youre protective or you relate really hard#but i think toshiros been getting the short end of the stick for a long time now 😭#even his love for falin is misunderstood#he literally states all the reasons he likes her#and none of them are superficial#but hes so closed off and has such difficulty expressing himself that instead of asking her out or smth he just#proposed to her out of the blue 😭#leading a lot of ppl to just assume that he went 'white woman spotted' and proposed#do Not misunderstand me i am#a HUGE farcille stan#obviously#but i dont think toshiros feelings are surface level and i think theyre absolutely crucial to understanding him and his motivations#as a character in this story
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I will not tolerate any Aaron Minyard slander
#Everyone acts as if he dropped a nuclear bomb snd resents him for no reason#They say he's an a-hole which he is but yall r acting as if Andrew's any better#He's so misunderstood#And no one bothers hearing him out and toss him aside#And no one understands that most of the shi that comes out his mouth is cuz of Tilda#I hate how authors present his character in fics#My boy just needs proper therapy and for someone to just LISTEN#No wonder he's always with Katelyn#Why does everyone act like he committed a sin by being with Katelyn#CAN U TELL IM MAD AND NOT PROPERLY MAKING ARGUMEMTS CUZ IM JS SO PISSED#AT HOW FIC AUTHORS ESP TREAT HIM IN THEIR FICS#AND HOW ANDREW AND NEIL JS HAVE A VENDETTA AHAINST HIM#AUGHHHHHHHHH#I HAVE YET TO FIND ANOTHER AARON MINYARD STAN IN THE WILD#all for the game#nora sakavic#neil josten#andrew minyard#aaron minyard#twinyards#Extra note: his homophobia was 100% taught by Tilda#I mean cmon#He also saw how Nicky was treated by his aunt and uncle for being gay#Js ponder on it a lil and rlly go into Aaron's pov so u understand wut I'm trying to say but I'm too lazy to type it out#This ain't an analysis yk
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Kaka compilation
Because everyone is sleeping on him. Witness his greatness!! First two Kaka colored icons were colored by me, lineart by Ryoko Kui though!
Kaka & Kiki are kinda like Laios & Falin… Kaka being stoic and giving repressed energy like early Laios, Kiki being cryptic and always smiling and kinda soft-looking. Autism siblings 2, ostracized and othered as kids and have a deep bond due to sticking together through it all, though unlike with Laios their parents are very loving so Kaka developed family as a big value more than Laios (bc asides for Falin Laios doesn’t care much about it).
In the gnome festival comic you can see Kaka is more emotive than he seems! Full with a :3 face, and he’s the one crying at the end. He’s insecure about his legs and being tall… It really got to him. Conceal don’t feel. In the gnome festival comic you also see him sensing others’ gaze on him and that something is off unlike Kiki, again Laios-like in the way that judgement from others gets to him more than her.
#The twins are so autistic swag#A falin just as chilled out and smiling and a laios who never stopped repressing#They’re so neurodivergent and they’re allowed to just exist I love you Kui. Kaka is just literally me#I looove characters that are hard to know and hard to read/easily misunderstood. They’re my favorite thing#LOOK AT THE WAY HE SMILES THE WAY HE BLUSHESSS HE’S PERFECT and I would take a harpoon to the chest for him thank u#I do love Kiki too btw but I’ve been seeing her in fancontent and posts way more than Kaka so I had to give him some spotlight#But also Laios is my fave of the Toudens so this very much checks out#Their pre-Flokes story would be interesting to analyze too#Dungeon meshi#delicious in dungeon#kaka floke#Kaka#Kiki and kaka#floke twins#As you may guess from my new-ish icon I am in my kaka era#ALSO I SWEAR TO GOD STOP BEING MEAN ABOUT HIS NAME#KA IS A SYLLABLE IN MY IRL NAME. YES I WAS BULLIED AND CALLED KAKA AS A KID. MY NAME ALSO MEANS UGLY STUFF IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE#KAKA’S A PRETTY NAME I’LL DIE ON THIS HILL. IT’S NOT WEIRD IF YOU DON’T MAKE IT WEIRD#Oh also another laios falin parallel: they both sort-of-date the same woman
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if you break it down Kabru's journey on the whole manga is about the ridiculous lenghts he will go through just to get this one weird guy to notice him and talk to him a little bit
#so pathetic I love that for him#and for Laios too because like this is a character that spend his life being misunderstood by most people and being looked down upon becaus#of giving bad first impressions and failing to connect even with people that he thought he was bonding (fuck shuro forever)#Laios deserves someone who is willing to lie cheat and die multiple times just because he wants to hang out with him and understand him#dungeon meshi#labru#thoughts
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yea i rewatched the s1 finale. did a lil doodle about it
#GODDD I NEED MORE PPL TO TALK ABOUT IL-NAM AND GI-HUN'S FINAL CONVERSATION#and i need them to like actually pay attention this time#stg its one of the more misunderstood scenes of the series#ive seen some people seeing it as a clash of two totally valid ideologies when like#no one of these things is clearly wrong. characters can have flawed logic even if they SOUND convincing#il-nams so fuckin good at manipulating that hes manipulated the audience NOOOO#people got too convinced that il-nam was in the right when he said 'well people came back on their own accord'#as if we didnt have an episode explicitly showing us the characters very shitty lives outside of the games#that forced them back into them#as if we werent explicitly shown gi-huns situation in great detail in e1 that landed him in the games in the first place#also i do NOT agree with any kinda sentiment that gi-hun is 'just as bad as the VIPs' for playing that game w/ il-nam#i mean. the dude was clearly reeling from the fucking BETRAYAL HES EXPERIENCING>??#and also il-nam is very manipulative as i said before. i think he was good at redirecting their interaction so that in the moment gi-hun >#> kinda forgets could ditch il-nam and go outside n save the homeless man himself#<- not really perfectly worded but i hope yall get what i mean#plus in s1 it was shown that gi-hun could sometimes not think ahead or clearly#especially when his emotions are running high#like. idk. when he realizes the man hes grieved and felt immense guilt over for a year is actually an evil ass rich dude who orchestrates >#> the mass murder of people in debt#god i am one PETTY ASS BITCH cuz i will NOT LET THIS GO#anyways. i just think that il-nams betrayal is just so so fucked because i was really Thinking about it as i rewatched the ep and#gi-hun likely grieved il-nam the same way he grieved the other friends he had in the games. he probably saw him in his nightmares too.#remembered how he'd hugged him even though gi-hun had been tricking him#(SIDE NOTE. ITS FUCKED THAT ONLY THE EVIL OLD MAN HAS HUGGED GI-HUN. CAN SOMEONE WHO ISNT EVIL BE NICEYS TO HIM.)#all of that. all of that grief and all of that love. what does it even mean now.#gi-hun is embarrassed hes been made a fool of hes angry hes heartbroken#squid game#seong gi hun#my art#doodle
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Whenever I write characters in general I try my best not to mischaracterize them too much. Their canon personalities/aspects is what made me love them in the first place and I don't want to stray too far from that..
I also get anxious when I don't interpret a character well enough not because I'm scared what others might say but literally because it's for my own sake.
I don't rlly mind nor care too much if people mischaracterize whether on purpose or on accident– people should just have fun aslong as no harm's done.
#I've been thinking#got comments of people loving how I characterize Sprout and it makes me relieved cause#I'm so scared of getting his character wrong lol 😭🙏#only some mischaracterizations kinda annoy me but I usually just ignore them#like Sprout only loving and being protective of Cosmo and no one else#I don't like how Shrimpo is characterized to be misunderstood and secretly hates himself or something along those lines#Like personally I think he's just an asshole and I support his wrongs#Also despite my DW FR AU being an AU their personalities is pretty much the canon ones too#Keeping things close to canon means a lot to me I do this a lot in fandoms I'm in lol#It's not everyone's cup of tea but this is how I have fun lol#ronu's rambles
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Just letting ya'll know that this is an absolutely Eurylochus friendly blog here.
We're here for our problematic right hand man. He's got problems but so do we, so... keep the Eurylochus haters outta here. Pls. Love <3
#eurylochus#epic the musical eurylochus#i had so a hard time spelling his name#im hungarian you cant do this to me#epic the musical#epic the musical ithaca saga#this is a safe space#a safe space ship as some would say#im looking at you blackbeard#underrated and misunderstood characters here
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I keep seeing fanarts of ppl's OC's being on the ship, so do you think that if there was 6st crewmember (specifically, another woman) Anya would've been more safe? Like, someone to actually call Jimmy's begaviour out, someone Anya might wanna trust? Is there a possibility something might have changed (even if a little) or it would not have mattered at all?
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I feel like the game would make it part of the commentary on where she would believe and help Anya but still be sort of dismissive? Like the whole “don’t waste time crying and being scared keep going and move on, don’t let him win”. It’s supposed to be positive and reinforcing but sometimes it does more damage in those times of mourning and grief, it feels patronizing, like you don’t understand what you’re going through but they do. Even if they did call out his behavior it’s still on Curly to act and while another voice would help, it’s still 4 against 2 on guys that don’t get it until they have to vs women who always have to.
I don’t mind mouthwashing OCs but I do get a bit bored as they tend to be borderline saviors or like Jimmy aligned. They are either more complicit than Curly or just Jimmy haters for no reason, outside of what the creators know about what he did to Anya. I am never irked by OCs but in a story like mouthwashing you really need to think about what your character adds to the commentary, especially if they are there during the crash. It’s nice to have like characters on Anya’s side more whole heartedly and interesting to see characters who placate Jimmy but sometimes it’s one note.
I can’t and don’t want to police peoples OCs it’s never my intention when I comment on trends I notice, but I do feel like the way people make their OCs interact with these two characters and especially Curly, really show a grave misunderstanding of the narrative and these characters as people vs roles in the story. Still, I know people just make up characters for fun and that’s fine. Great even, but I guys I’m focusing more on OCs that are supposed to have those serious dynamics. My favs tend to be pretty-Tulpar or post-Tulpar au OCs.
The inevitably of the crash is on Jimmy. He did that not because he wasn’t stopped but because all his means to kill Anya were taken. The gun, the axe. Even if Curly did strip him of his co-pilot privileges and try to keep him contained there’s only so many people. An extra body helps but they have jobs they have to do, he’s the only one steering the whole ship and Jimmy would likely have an out: food, bathroom, etc. He’s not new and if he couldn’t crash the ship directly, who’s to say he wouldn’t sabotage something else? A clunker like the Tulpar wouldn’t take much. An extra person helps but it’s just another thing that prolongs what a person like Jimmy is willing to do to shirk responsibility.
It’s more than just needing someone to stand up to him and think that’s what is missing when it comes to inserting a character into the mouthwashing setting.
#like again most people treat Jimmy like a misanthrope and he’s not and the way he’s just evil/rude to everyone all the time just isn’t real#like he’s snarky and rude but it can’t be 100% of the time like hes not going out his way to instigate#he’s the type to say shit and hope it stirs the pot like Daisuke likes him at first#thinks he’s a bit of a jerk but he likes him like unless you specifically make a character he’s dislike he’s not just gonna be#readily antagonistic to strangers or at the get go#not to mention it’s not just about Anya needing a friend but someone with the power to do something#a point in why she confides in Curly is he’s the captain she’s not just gonna tell the only other woman just because it’s still personal#not every girl tells their friend or another woman especially if they are new and they don’t know how they react not all girls are#girls girls some can be just as toxic as the men they are being confided in about#the nuance of the situation is not solved by having more people who actively hate jimmmy if anything it would make him escalate further as#clearly has issues with how people perceive him and being liked like another woman who hates him that’s gonna do something crazy in his mind#I think it’s interesting when OCs explore another side of the pre established dynamics as Jimmy uses each remaining crew member to fill a#something Curly provided for him and represent his dynamic with Anya and being an abuser I just feel like a lot is being missed out on#and it’s mainly cause people don’t want to make OCs that aren’t great people like it’s okay to have a grey mediocre OCs in situations like#this its realistic and helps you write more grounded characters like idk i like the ocs but eh im not like a super fan#I really should make an analysis on Jimmy cause people hate discussing him and his character is being really misunderstood#like not saying she’s innocent or an excuse but just not getting how he is supposed to work like he’s no dick fucking dasteredly#he’s a shitty guy who gets shittier like he ain’t start out an avengers level threat#mouthwashing#💀 anon#mouthwashing game#ask#anya mouthwashing#curly mouthwashing#jimmy mouthwashing#mouthwashing oc#now I gotta make an oc just to prove myself but I can’t draw#so maybe not cuz what’s the point if I can’t explain the fly drip
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going insane and i need to infodump about severus snape’s patronus being a doe for a second. i personally don’t think it changed, or lily necessarily influenced it- i think it’s always been a doe, casting the charm in dumbledore’s office was meant to show that he and lily were supposed to be viscerally aligned with each other and he knows he fucked it up and that’s why he’s spent almost two decades trying to atone for what he did. on a representative level, the doe symbolizes peace, protection, and innocence, and no three words could possibly represent severus snape more.
all he wants is peace: a peaceful life for himself, a peaceful world, a peaceful school. everything he’s ever done has been to create as much peace as possible. some of it can be considered misguided from a black and white moral standpoint, but it’s what created peace for himself. for example, aligning himself with the purist views of his housemates made him less of a target for bullying- he’s not a pure blood, and they’d know, and having powerful ambitious students on your side instead of alienating yourself from everyone means you have at least a semblance of protection from harm some of the time. he becomes a double agent for dumbledore to help bring about peace from voldemort’s reign. it might not have been peaceful for him per se, but it was still with the intention of peace in some form. he tries to give other people peace- he takes a vow with narcissa to protect her son because she’s crying and scared for him, and it gives her peace. he doesn’t throw draco under the bus to save his skin when voldemort accuses him of being the elder wands owner, giving draco and narcissa peace even if they weren’t aware. it’s either for himself, or for others.
he’s the most protective teacher at the school- would mcgonagall have thrown herself in front of three kids facing a wolfsbane-less werewolf? would flitwick take the burden of an unbreakable vow to protect draco malfoy from voldemort? would any of the DADA teachers have run towards the sound of a screaming woman? he consistently vows to protect everyone and everything he can. and, leading into his innocence, when he realizes he’s only been protecting harry for him to die, it breaks him.
he’s not necessarily innocent in that his hands are clean and he’s never done anything wrong in his life, but he’s innocent in that he’s naive. he trusted voldemort enough to be drawn into the death eaters, he trusted dumbledore enough to be manipulated into his bidding. it feels like he forgets that dumbledore screws him over constantly, dangles things in front of him and takes them away, makes crude assumptions, and has left him to fend for himself essentially their entire relationship. the times that dumbledore abandons him- physically, mentally, metaphorically- he gets very upset. like it’s new information to him that dumbledore treats him like shit. from an abuse perspective, he probably had to spend his childhood mentally erasing what his parents and home were like so he could feel safe and normal, so the constant ebb and flow/back and forth of his and dumbledore’s relationship is familiar to him. when dumbledore draws him back in with whatever method, he’s right back to behaving as dumbledore wants, doing what dumbledore wants, and believing what dumbledore believes. the times that he remembers that dumbledore doesn’t care that he let the guy who’s tried to kill him or assault go, or that dumbledore thinks he wants only lily saved because he desires her romantically or sexually, or that dumbledore has only been using harry and, by extension, him (as he’s been the one protecting harry) to play the long game of destroying voldemort are the times that he’s emotional in the books. he cries, he’s vulnerable, he raises his voice, he begs and he pleads and he defers. he doesn’t do that any other time, other than when he found harry watching his memories. he trusts and he forgives (or he forgets, or he feels safer pretending he doesn’t care what’s been done to him/how he’s been treated.) a doe is perfect for him. reducing it to something like tonk’s patronus being changed as soon as she’s in a relationship with lupin or that it’s only a doe because of lily evans completely erases his entire way of thinking and behaving and being.
also, in a self indulgent addendum, it’s a very feminine animal, and severus is consistently aligned with femininity. hermione calls the half-blood prince’s writing feminine. he wears his mother’s clothes as a child, and lupin encourages neville to dress his boggart as his grandmother. he’s quiet and docile and tries to be non-violent unless he’s pushed to his breaking point, and even then it’s screaming or crying or getting animated. he’s emotional and frequently painted as hysterical. he gets the “woman character treatment”: to the average viewer who doesn’t think about him long enough to understand otherwise, he only desires lily. the consensus is that he chases her, he only thinks about her in the context of attraction. the line about looking at her greedily is constantly understood to be lust, and not a desire for love or a desire for a peaceful relationship for once in his life (and a relationship that only ever seems to be platonic at that). he even backs off and all but disappears from her life when he’s asked to, while james (the one with the stag patronus, the classic triumphant male character) harasses her and pursues her and behaves in a way that makes his son decades later wonder if he forced lily into a relationship. he’s behaviorally aligned with what femininity in the eyes of misogyny is supposed to be. he keeps to himself, he’s quiet, he sacrifices every bit of himself for students and coworkers and superiors and expects nothing in return, he pushes his students to be the best they can. (i’d say nurtures with my whole chest, but as the narrative comes from harry, we can’t really be sure. in my view, his house won the house cup for several years in a row which was only interrupted by dumbledore awarding a fuck ton of points to his gryffindor prize pony, his classes are seen as high performing and advanced by even dolores umbridge of all people, he only tries to punish students albeit a bit violently after several attempts of getting them to understand why what they did was wrong, which seems to be pretty nurturing in comparison to what other teachers allow and do). whether he’s trans, or had been influenced more by eileen, or he was intended to be deeply complex and contradictory and that meant that he had to have these traits, or any other of the multitude of reasons for snape being an inherently feminine character, it’s there. his patronus wouldn’t be a stag, he wouldn’t be anything overbearing and he wouldn’t be anything aggressive. it doesn’t make sense with his soul and his personality and his life. the peaceful protective innocent/naive doe, however, does.
#severus snape#snape#pro snape#patronus#snape meta#severus snape meta#i’m going insane#i wrote this at work. i couldn’t sit with all of this in my head anymore#he’s the character ever#he deserves the coziest quietest little life ever. i hope he gets it in his next one#he’s so tragic and misunderstood and villainized. i might be crying a little#i could literally talk about him and all of this for hours i just figured i should stop where i was#she’s giving novel
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The erasure of the Usopp Pirates in OPLA is quite literally the worst thing they could have possibly done and I will forever be resentful for that.
#those kids are SO important for usopp's character#it's not even in a superficial 'he loves them they're his family' type of way but like#they're crucial to reaffirm his nurturing and caring/protective nature and giving him reasons to be the man he wants to be#he has people waiting for him in syrup village. kids he has influenced. kids who admire him. that's what a warrior is too#and to take that away from him is just. cruel#idk i believe that opla misunderstood his character deeply and i will forever hate that. turned him into just comedy relief#even if it was just b they're his family and had nothing to do with his personality and ambitions ??? since when is family not crucial here#opla acting as if those kids weren't extremely important in the manga and for usopp#look they showed up in the last chapter and i got emotional i adore them :(#one piece#usopp#opla#one piece live action
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I think about Achilles tearing at his own hair frequently
#my art#how destructive he is is so fucking interesting to me#I constantly try to seek out meta posts about him so I can understand his character more#achilles#the iliad#I feel like hes misunderstood a lot#tagamemnon
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AHHH what do you like about harry !!!!! he's one of my FAVEE characters and for a MC he's very underrated
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hello!!!!
i fear i do not have strong reasons haha i can wax poetic for james and sirius but the minute it comes to harry, i just….? struggle? his vibes are honestly just so so impressive?
but!! if i did have to sum it up, i think i’d have to start with his resilience. our boy is SO fkn strong like he takes everything that comes at him, chews it up, and spits it out at the world. he will literally never bend. i love it so much.
i love how ridiculously powerful he is. his magic? chefs kiss. the patronus is a thing of beauty.
he is also, i find, a bit of a study in contradictions. he’s kind and good, but he will unrepentantly use unforgivable same strangle a man and enable imprisonment of a reporter-turned-beetle. he can be ruthless, so manipulative, and still have a heart of gold. he’s shy, blends in at times, doesn’t think much of himself but has such a powerful presence that people look to him as the leader at all times. even after a year of being on the run and essentially disappearing from public sight.
he’s so snarky and sarcastic my babyyyyyy honestly his interactions w the dursleys are truly up there. he never lets shit bring him down.
i also just love. how badass he is? like one of my fav harry iterations is him postwar bc he’s truly a sum of his experiences atp. all of his scars, the frankly insane near-death experiences he’s had, the feats of magical power that no one expects—it all jus adds up to a really fkn cool package ykno? like he’s an urban legend or something.
(i also recently discovered this beautiful blog and while all of their posts are amazing, this one in particular hit SO hard.)
i would also rly rly love to hear what ur favorite bits are!!! there’s never enough harry appreciation to go around imo haha
#harry potter#also i fully agree that he’s so underrated#like. we spend all our time w him and in his head#but i feel like so many people get him so wrong#he’s ~tragically misunderstood~ if u will#i’m always on the hunt for more harry fans#and harry centric fics and stuff#bc i loooooooove that boy so much#like. james and sirius are my number ones. but the character i read most about is harry. hands down#i actually read very little j&s content#but harry? i’ve got over a thousand bookmarks w his name on it#and it’s still not enough#he’s truly the definition of bamf imo#pen’s asks
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I agree with all of this EXCEPT one thing
I know this is just one of those Twitter fandom jokes but
*WARNING* My unnecessary writing:
damn, the fact that some people discuss a character about their mistakes and how they are bad at something doesn't mean that they are mean to them. The creators, on the contrary, specifically write characters as they are. That is, with their strengths and weaknesses. This is even good on the contrary. There is nothing wrong if some character is really just bad at something. This does not automatically make the character bad, but rather, on the contrary, makes them more interesting. Therefore, when someone talks about how badly a character acted at a certain moment, then know that perhaps they like it on the contrary(while saying "affectionate”).
#fairly oddparents a new wish#fop new wish#fairly oddparents#fop#hazel wells#dev dimmadome#peri fairywinkle cosma#dale dimmadome#irep anticosma#the person actually wrote that Hazel is interesting#because she is a well-written character who can sometimes make mistakes#also wrote that Dev was misunderstood#because he is also a well written character who makes mistakes but still regrets it later#so why not admit that Peri is NOT as good godparent as many people think#??#just let him admit his mistakes already too 👏#…#dale dimmadome…#and yes Irep is NOT ugly#sorry for my tantrum 😅#but it just pisses me off that people make some characters too idealized#sometimes depriving them of their iconic features#fop irep#fop peri#hazel fop#dale fop
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Jumping off my other post, I will admit that the whole "Izuku forgot about the river" is something that seemingly came out of nowhere for me.
I never understood it.
I get that we haven't seen him talking about it, but how is it acknowledged that Izuku is an "unreliable narrator" and he doesn't talk about all of his feelings... but then when he doesn't mention the time at the river, he has forgotten about it?
He doesn't mention some things, but that doesn't translate to he forgotten anything.
It's like not mentioning your favorite color all the time and people assume you don't have one or you don't like that color anymore.
In fact, episode 7/chapter 9 alone proves Izuku doesn't forget anything, especially from their past. That episode has him narrate their childhood except for when we get to the river scene, but that was because to show Katsuki's POV on that day and why he started to resent Izuku.
It's not that Izuku forgot that day. It's just he saw it differently from how Katsuki did.
While Izuku saw he was helping out a friend, Katsuki saw it as someone thinking he was weak.
I don't know, I just never got the thing about forgetting the river when Izuku clearly is the last person to forget anything. Especially, when it comes to Katsuki.
It's just emphasized a lot with Katsuki because it was the day he begun really resenting Izuku and soon later regrets it.
It's definitely just a fanon thing. And just me, but some of the things the fandom does agree on when it comes to Izuku, I don't get.
#and I'll be honest some of the things some of the fandom come up for both katsuki and izuku#makes me believe some of you intend to make Katsuki seem better and Izuku worse#like the cooking thing#just because katsuki can cook doesn't mean izuku can't#(honestly i see katsuki as someone who can but over seasons and forgets that not everyone has his spice tolerance sometimes)#y'all know i don't hate katsuki that is my boom boom gremlin... but i do feel like when it comes to both characters#some of you go the route of babying them in different ways#katsuki gets the 'he's misunderstood' treatment#izuku get infantilized like he can't do anything right or not at all#i find it unfair because they're both great characters in their own right but it's like some of you only want to acknowledge that for one#and not the other#I'm emphasizing more so on Izuku's case because while katsuki does have his haters it is clear from polls and switch ups#that he gets more grace than izuku#and no one or not a lot of people don't bring it up because Izuku isn't as loved#some Izuku fans i don't feel are really his fans but fans of fanon versions of him#my bias yeah because he is my fave but even if he wasn't i still think it's unfair#just kiya's thoughts#bnha#mha#boku no hero academia#my hero academia#midoriya izuku#izuku midoriya#bakugou katsuki#katsuki bakugou#bakudeku
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OH. okay so normally i dont touch discourse with a 20 ft pole, but this has been niggling at my brain tonight and i finally realized why
the people who are mad at qbbh for the memory loss and “dodging consequences” dont understand that he doesnt want to dodge consequences. Like they cant know that, they werent focused on him when he was literally feeding himself to the soul vultures and planning his eventual imprisonment and also. The Many Many Many hints he made towards suicide/sacrifice/Just Fucking Dying.
ccbbh is a subtle roleplayer, he’s been building this shit up for two whole months- it was day FIVE of the eggs going missing that he resolved to do whatever it took (hurting his friends) to get the eggs back. It was day three that he followed in dapper’s footsteps and started feeding himself to the soul vultures (and gaining a Massive headwound beneath his hood in the process- you can only see it if you go on namemc and remove the layers). He’s got impaired judgement. Even the memory issues arent a new thing- i cant remember exactly when they started, but one of the first big moments i remmeber was september 30th where he spent an hour falling into a delusional frenzy searching his base for cameras that he forgot he asked aypierre to plant.
The super murder of purgatory and the memory loss afterwards probably all feels very sudden for people who havent been following his story, but as someone who has been- all of this has been true to character. The only cheap swings he’s made have been combat-based in purgatory, and even the motive for those was built up in rp.
People are calling for consequences, but he has alrwady been experiencing self-inflicted consequences for months. The blue on his usual outfit is blood. This recent memory loss isnt a restart to get away with the atrocities - it is yet another consequence of his egg-protecting complexes and the ways he punishes himself for failing them.
he is NOT a moral character. he’s a demon hiding in plain site. he has eaten people. he has killed people. he understands the cruelty of his actions, and the consequences of them for the loved ones of his victims. but it matters when that harm is being done to his loved ones. he’ll still do it, because he will do anything for the eggs, but it matters, and that means that he has already started the process of self-inflicting those much-demanded consequences
#anyone who isnt a qbbh makn please extend some sympathy for us. our guy is being misunderstood again#so if people seem twitchier than usual that probbaly plays a factor#but if it ever gets annoying be rest assured he is doing his very best to train us in media literacy#and also the block and filter buttons are your friends#and qbbh mains join me in the genuinely freeing revelation that they have just. strawmanned him yet again#i feel like youve gotta be able to understand a character to truly hate them#and no one (not even us oh my fucking god) really understand him#and thus the vitrol means nothing and i am free of all woes#anyway tho genuinely if you want to know more about this cube im willing to talk about him#i have Credentials#one of my posts was dono’d to the cc almost word for word and he called me a know it all#qsmp#qsmp badboyhalo#discourse#<- mentioned#an interestinf discussion could be had too about xyz character Deserving xyz thing#and really people in general Deserving xyz thing#but i think that is a wasp nest i dont know enough about to join swatting#i ngeed. to go to bed
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is anyone else going to make a Gravity Falls x Frankenstein crossover, or do I have to (I do not mind doing so at all, in fact, I would relish the task)
#seriously. the parallels go crazyyy.#stanford as the neurotic morally gray Victor stand in#fiddleford as his romantic well-meaning best friend Henry#bill as the misunderstood creature thrust into a form not suited for him#the other characters would be less one to one#dipper could be walton I think#but then stan and mable would be kind of left out#those three could potentially be the family bill becomes enchanted with/learns from (the ones who eventually betray him/run him out)#I don't know if I would want them to be Victor's family (considering they all die/have strange incesty relationships with him)#(hello elizabeth)#so they'll likely wind up needing to be other characters#BUT EVEN STILL#IT WOULD BE FIRE#gravity falls#gravity falls au#stanford pines#fiddleford hadron mcgucket#stanley pines#dipper pines#mable pines#I'm annotating my copy of Frankenstein rn if you couldn't tell (or procrastinating on annotating it)
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