#holocaust denial mention

[religion-in-humanity]

I'm in the middle of an audiobook right now but once I'm done with it, I'd like to find books about Holocaust denial specifically written by Jews, especially ones that discuss the universalization of the Holocaust. If anyone has recs, please feel free to share them with me.

[jewish-vents]

Six million of us died. My ancestors were either slaughtered, separated from their cultures and families, or traumatized for life. Yet people still speculate what the 'bad ending' of WWII would be. How is this ending not bad enough?

↑ this. so many people have speculated "what if Hitler won" and like... he's not some cartoon villain of world domination, he was an actual leader who lead a very serious and devastating genocide.

6 million Jews dead, entire families and histories wiped, thousands of books burned to ash. is this not bad enough for you? or is it only the "bad ending" when it starts affecting you as well?

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[elder-millennial-of-zion]

Tell me if I’m reaching here guys, but I think the Holocaust could serve as an analogy for the persecution of Jews.

[victoriadallonfan]

“Local Moron Who Denies Nazi War Crimes and Associates with Nazi Apologists Upset that People Call Her a Nazi Apologist.”

Remember who JKRowlings friends (aka homophobes, transphobes, and fascists) are:

[the-catboy-minyan]

like the reason jkr denied book burnings of trans medical books isn't even antisemitism, it's because she refuses to acknowledge trans people existed in the past.

is it holocaust denial? yes, that's a documented event that happened as part of the holocaust, and she's denying it. but why do you care? because it's about you, it's about her engaging in holocaust denial to deny trans identities, not about her actually denying a part of the holocaust.

some of you don't even care the reasons those books were burned is because they were written by a Jewish doctor and Nazis saw gender affirming care as a Jewish conspiracy to weaken the population, you're only mad we lost years of trans research, and that a terf is denying that.

you don't care about the holocaust, you don't care about holocaust denial, you don't care about Nazi book burnings, you care Nazis burned these specific books that relate to your identity and that one popular terf is trying to say that never happened.

[porcelain-rob0t]

i know this is old news now but are we surprised that noted antisemite, jkr who is known well for "evil cabal of hook-nosed banker goblins" in her writing, denies nazi crimes and pushes historical revisionism for the sake of spreading hatred. nazis hated trans people and obviously killed trans people because they believed transgenderism was a Jewish plot to weaken the strong aryan man. i recommend researching Magnus Hirschfeld and the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft, its an important part of LGBT history and Jewish history, he was a truly fascinating person

[the-one-eyed-seer]

Stop comparing things to the Holocaust. I promise whatever you’re comparing to the Holocaust is not like the Holocaust.

Education on this topic is so poor that a lot of y’all only know “it was bad” or “they died”. They did not just die. There’s a thousand layers to how thoroughly the victims were dehumanized.

Educate yourselves.

[chaiaurchaandni]

[celestiastarshine]

So I just found out from Essence of Thought that JK Rowling has gotten worse. Which doesn't surprise me, but I find it plenty abhorrent for obvious reasons.

TW: Nazis, eugenics, antisemitism, Holocaust denial, and transmisia are discussed in the video. If these topics trigger you, please protect your peace.

(TERFS and JK Rowling supporters DNI)

[creature-wizard]

Law of Assumption believers promote the denial of historical atrocities (the Atlantic slave trade, the Trail of Tears, the Holocaust, just to name a few) by asserting that bad things only happen(ed) if you believe they happen(ed).

[jewish-vents]

something that I don't think non-jews realize is just how fucking terrified all Jews have been ever since the world stopped pretending it cared about us.

We always felt othered, we always were persecuted, we've always been cautious, we've always been afraid, we've always known that at the end of the day the only people we can truly trust is each other. We just were hopeful that maybe this time we didn't have to be so afraid of other people.

But after October 7th, the world stopped pretending to care about Jews, they stopped acting like they don't see us as vermin, they've stopped treating us as human.

The Holocaust deniers are out in full force, there are Nazis everywhere, the conspiracy theories are gaining traction, the rates of antisemitic attacks have skyrocketed, lists of Jews are being published, dog whistles are cropping up everywhere, students don't feel safe in their classes, people don't feel safe at work, Jews don't feel safe anywhere. Because we're not.

Jews have a uniquely horrible history of being persecuted and murdered. We all carry so much generational trauma. We are taught the warning signs from birth, and what we're seeing now is terrifying.

Ask any Jew, they will tell you how much this reminds them of pre-Holocaust Germany. They will tell you how this reminds them of pre-Inquisition Spain. They will tell you how this reminds them of the Russians, the Romans, the Greeks. They will tell you how this reminds them of the buildup to every major pogrom, every wide-scale genocide attempt, of every time that we were almost destroyed.

We've been here dozens of times before, and we know where this is going.

Your Jewish friends are not okay, your Jewish neighbors are not okay, your Jewish coworkers are not okay.

Would you be okay if you knew for a fact that very soon something absolutely horrible is going to happen to you and the ones you love? Would you be okay if you knew for a fact that your life is in danger? Would you be okay if everywhere you went you see people calling for your death?

Would you be okay if you knew that nobody cared?

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[gay-jewish-bucky]

apparently holocaust denialists hate the bee movie?

like i dont even know where to begin

[angorwhosebabyisthis]

one thing that does make me a little nervous sometimes about writing up pericles meta is that like.... quite a lot of it goes in-depth about the extent of how incredibly vile and cruel the things are that he does to other characters, and his reasons for doing them. that's Important, and i do my best not to try to cushion it, despite discussing how it plays into his trauma and the shit hand he was dealt and vice versa. if anything the juxtaposition of those things is the point of all this meta for me, and it gets to the heart of so, so much that resonates with me about sdmi. erasing that would be a disservice to him and basically every other character in the show that i'm invested in.

.....and at the same time it's always really sucked how often i see people talk about how one-note pure evil he is, how it's impossible to write him as a complex or sympathetic character without making him totally OOC, how people who genuinely like him are [insert apologist here], how you're not allowed to enjoy exploring the awful dynamics he gets into with people, how they want him to be gruesomely murdered by the protags and think it'd be funny and satisfying and the show would be better for it, and just generally talk about How Much They Straightforwardly Hate Him Because He Does Bad Things. not everyone does this, thankfully, but enough of them have over the years that i just don't really want to see it anymore.

i know i joke all the time about how 'i love him and he makes me sad but i am going to peel him like a banana,' and i'm not going to try to tell other people they can't dislike him or anything, especially since i know a lot of the stuff he does is going to be really fucking triggering for some people. i do my best to just curate and block, mute, or scroll past if i need to. but he's genuinely one of my favorite characters ever and he means a lot to me--especially since i can relate hard to a lot of the sympathetic themes behind his being a piece of shit--and when i write my meta posts about him, i do it to share what i love about his character, and maybe get some people to appreciate him in a new light. and the idea of actively adding to the torches and pitchforks instead is..... kind of depressing to me and i really hope that's not how it turns out.

basically i guess this is me asking preemptively, before i start writing up posts Really Getting Into His Awful Shit at Great Length and in Great Detail, that folks please be mindful with 'i hate this fucking bird' comments on posts i make. i do hope people enjoy reading what i have to say about him, and get something out of it, but.... yeah. he sucks real bad but please be nice.

[apocalypticautumn]

Useful article about JVP's antisemitism:

(I knew some of this already, but had no idea they were Holocaust deniers)

[casualstarunknown]

TW antisemitism

I wasn't expecting to find antisemitism in The Great Gatsby. I have never heard anyone mention it unlike Dracula for example. Honestly one of the most vile antisemitism I have ever stumbled upon in a classical book, cuffs made out of molars, Wolfsheim's company being called "The Swastika Holding Company", saying "the holocaust was complete" to describe a crime scene with two deads. If there is another explanation that Fitzergard was a raging antisemitist please share cause I don't see any.

Fitzergard really thought Gatsby's activities were not hinted as shady enough there is need to use a Jewish character so full of antisemitic tropes that it could feat in The Jude.

And it is not like the white supremacy stuff Tom Buchanan spouts that is slightly mocked by the other characters, the antisemitism in the book is a narration tool, never questioned.

To be honest I didnt understand the full scope of trigger warnings' utility until now. Noticing hateful tropes while nobody mentions it is lowkey gaslighting. TWs removes that real or feigned ignorance. Nobody can argue that what you are noticing is not there, that you are reading "too much into it" (even if you would have to be remarkably uneducated to sincerely argue this for the Great Gatsby) when there is a note at the beginning of the book for all to see.

[soon-palestine]

"I’m personally a Holocaust survivor as an infant, I barely survived.

My grandparents were killed in Aushwitz and most of my extended family were killed.

I became a Zionist; this dream of the Jewish people resurrected in their historical homeland and the barbed wire of Aushwitz being replaced by the boundaries of a Jewish state with a powerful army…and then I found out that it wasn’t exactly like that, that in order to make this Jewish dream a reality we had to visit a nightmare on the local population.

There’s no way you could have ever created a Jewish state without oppressing and expelling the local population. Jewish Israeli historians have shown without a doubt that the expulsion of Palestinians was persistent, pervasive, cruel, murderous and with deliberate intent - that’s what’s called the 'Nakba' in Arabic; the 'disaster' or the 'catastrophe'.

There’s a law that you cannot deny the Holocaust, but in Israel you’re not allowed to mention the Nakba, even though it’s at the very basis of the foundation of Israel.

I visited the Occupied Territories (West Bank) during the first intifada. I cried every day for two weeks at what I saw; the brutality of the occupation, the petty harassment, the murderousness of it, the cutting down of Palestinian olive groves, the denial of water rights, the humiliations...and this went on, and now it’s much worse than it was then. It’s the longest ethnic cleansing operation in the 20th and 21st century.

I could land in Tel Aviv tomorrow and demand citizenship but my Palestinian friend in Vancouver, who was born in Jerusalem, can’t even visit! So then you have these miserable people packed into this, horrible…people call it an 'outdoor prison', which is what it is. You don’t have to support Hamas policies to stand up for Palestinian rights, that’s a complete falsity.

You think the worse thing you can say about Hamas, multiply it by a thousand times, and it still will not meet the Israeli repression and killing and dispossession of Palestinians.

And 'anybody who criticises Israel is an anti-Semite' is simply an egregious attempt to intimidate good non-Jews who are willing to stand up for what is true."