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#if i discover any more parallels i am going insane
griffnoir · 2 years
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was like “oh sad that my man Lan doesn’t get an arthurian name :(” then- then- the fucking epiphany of the man being LAN-CELOT i am a fool blind to the very truth i can’t i just can’t lord of the lakes my ass i can’t take it anymore
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mothric · 4 months
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hello my fellow autism havers I have a favour to ask
so I've discovered one of my special interests is "people in extremely niche video game communities with extremely specific skills who do insane things with limited technology that was not designed to do the insane things they're making it do"
FOR EXAMPLE:
the 13 year old kid who just beat Tetris by reaching its killscreen for the first time in 35 years of Tetris history
Tim Follin, who made ridiculously good video game soundtracks for the most mediocre NES, SNES, and arcade games that all pushed their soundchips to their absolute limit
the half-A-press mario 64 guy who talked about parallel universes, does anyone remember that guy??
the guy who used Super Mario World's code to overwrite itself with a fully playable version of Flappy Bird
the guy who made Pokemon Red (also fully playable) inside Minecraft
I do not understand what any of these people do or how they do it, and I have no interest in doing what they do. but every single time I find out about some absolutely bonkers hyperspecific accomplishment like this, 500 million neurons fire in my brain all at once and I am enveloped in such rapturous joy that I feel like I'm going to fold up and transform into a giant mech and blast the sun into smithereens. I love these people and their achievements so so much. I love trying and failing to understand the logistics of what they did.
so basically what I am asking is if anyone knows any more about ANYTHING like this - any pro gamer, speedrunner, ROM hacker, etc, who's devoted inordinate amounts of time and energy into breaking games, pushing primitive machines to their limits, setting records I didn't know existed, and accomplishing things that have very few real-world ramifications but are cool as hell within their respective communities. the types of things that make bystanders sneer "imagine if they put this much energy into curing cancer" but make ME go "yes! yes!!! I love you for achieving your deranged goals!!! do it more!!!!!!"
be it videos, articles, or your own infodumps, I'll happily devour any information you have. thank you in advance my compatriots
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bibibbon · 2 months
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MHA chapter 415 leaks
A lot of the problems I have with this chapter are already ones that I talked about in previous chapter posts which can be found here 👇
However I still wanna talk about things that I don't like in this chapter.
1) the memory sharing thing and how random it is. I stand by the point that this plot point came out of nowhere, is a speedy and cheap way to try and build up what little development izuku and shigarakis dynamic lacks. The memories that are being shared also seem very inconsistent like why did one memory trigger another? It makes no sense why Izuku's fight with todoroki would ultimately trigger the usj and why the fight itself would be triggered by a convo that stain and shigaraki have. In my opinion, this is also a very good way for hori to just show off how he has improved his own art and be like "oh look at how good my art is now" which kinda sucks because we don't get any story but just some cool looking manga chapters
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2) power of rejection?!?! Seems like a fancy plot armour for izuku not to lose all of his quirks to me🤷‍♀️. The power of rejection just sounds like such a cliche way to be like oh izuku won't lose his quirk to plot armour because he physically cannot lose his quirks since shigaraki is rejecting them. Like seriously what is it with Izuku not being able to keep his powers and we are just having him HAVE TO PASS DOWN HIS QUIRK FOR NO REASON?!?!?! you already passed down the quirk that caused the most distress aka kudos so won't izuku suffer even more if he passed down blackwhip which is the quirk that is keeping him both alive and is giving him the ability to move like why would izuku the and transfer that?!?! Seems stupid to me 😭 and low-key further reinforces the idea that the power of rejection is (A) there a plot point introduced to make it so that izuku doesn't lose his quirks and (B) so horikoshi can still create intense looking manga pages that he won't be able to create if izuku can't use his quirks anymore.
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3) The unnerving focus on the police officer who took Tenko home. This manga page low-key confirmed the one theory that was like the police officer is afo and that AFO gave tomura his quirk which if it is true just doesn't line up or make sense when it comes to canon. I see how this theory can help develop both the parallels further in fanon but in canon it just damages tomura's character and its like an excuse that we should pity shigaraki even more because this police guy who was supposed to help him was a villain who gave him a destructive quirk and made him go insane /cause his families deaths. This also takes away from the half baked plot point that the gene for quirks actually heavily influence behaviour but if this theory is true then shigaraki just wants destruction because he wants destruction 🤷‍♀️ nothing more and nothing less.
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4) Eri becoming relevant to the plot now? I have already said this and I will say it again Eri's quirk is too narrative breaking and too powerful. You literally cannot have the plot go on since we discovered that Eri can legit just rewind people to a time they were at their prime like she did with mirio. This brings up the question as to why she didn't do this with aizawa or all might and therefore her quirk could be used to make the series and characters have no long lasting concequences. Also how are the heroes so irresponsible thaT THEY COULD LET A CHILD SIMPLY RUN INTO A DANGEROUS AND TERRIFYING BATTLE FIELD LIKE WHATS WRONG WITH YOU ECTOPLASM DO SOMETHING YOURE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT THE CHILD ARENT YOU?!?!?!!? also this is such a shame Eri could of actually been a very good character who symbolised the traumatic events that victims of hero society faced and how young children could be kidnapped and exploited for powerful quirks however instead of getting anything like that we just get Eri BECOMING A TOOL FOR THE HEROES WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT SHE WAS Traumatised TO DO DUE TO OVERHAUL MAKING HER A TOOL FOR HIM AND NOTHING ELSE?!?!? talk about double standards. This is also making the Eri will rewind shigaraki into Tenko theory much more plausible and I hate that theory for so many reasons. However, it's either this or the theory that she will have to separate Izuku and shigaraki BECAUSE FOR SOME forsaken REASON THOSE TWO ARE SOMEHOW MERGING AND BECOMING THE SAME PERSON LIKE THAT MAKES ANY SENSE
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5) where did the damage that kudos quirk was supposed to do to shigaraki go? Is it me but I seriously don't see shigaraki getting any damaged or recoil from kudos quirk like I could see some of it from the last chapter where shigaraki was somewhat struggling but that's it nothing else. Shigaraki can now fight perfectly fine and isn't getting the recoil hit if a nuke something that izuku was suffering with the majority of the fight which just seems unfair at this point like?!?! Its also another example of how hori fails at show don't tell
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Seriously I still don't like the leaks but at least we got my girl hatsume and la brava that's the only good thing I can think about when it comes to these leaks.
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Re: your post about Wanda and Pietro joining Hydra. Their being controlled would make some sense. Their actual motive is funny, “I no like Tony Stark” is the entire thing. (Not only that, but the MCU execs thought this motive was so good that they reused it.) They drop this motive as soon as they discover murder is bad maybe? They fluctuate between being prisoners and seeming like some weird kids that hang around the Hydra office. Nobody can agree on how old they are supposed to be, they’re either like 15 or 25 in Age of Ultron. Pietro died stupidly and got recast and then died metaphorically, but still stupidly. I’m sorry this ask is so long I just realized how much of a train wreck it is laid out.
y e a h everything about the mcu maximoffs are. not the maximoffs. like thats just not them! its not them. just don't make them join hydra. it just feels very disrespectful. it could've been cool if they had done,,, anything with the "hydra is massively coersive to everyone they are around at all, and once you're in there's basically no way out, ever" but still. having them be associated with hydra at all kinda sucks.
i also would've loved to have some sort of like. actual conversation/parallel it out between wanda and tony. i would've loved them to bring stane up, to have any sort of discussion of like. YEAH ok it's kind of understandable to have a trauma reaction to a name you had to stare at for however long they were trapped in their house, but also it is absolutely Insane to carry that into adult decision making for Actual Murder. and that, if anyone is to blame at all, it is either stane (i don't remember the actual military situation in sokovia but i feel like Perhaps the us military, which is the only place tony ever knowingly sold to) or, you know, the us military.
have them have that conversation that, yes! tony will take the blame for this. because that's what he does. and maybe he even understands if she wants to kill him. but then it's just... done. no doing better, no making things better, for either of them. i want that. it could've been good. it could've been so good i have so many thoughts about wanda and tony parallels.
like, YES part of it is on tony. but it is bonkers to go to him first and only. i am realizing that litterally... if they had gone after more people and more of the military industrial complex than just tony. not saying not tony, just more than him! have them start trying to kill senators and generals. the people who ordered bombings. start having them go after current weapon's manufacturers. have them try to fucking assassinate justin hammer. have them attack the system, not just this One Fucking Guy who is already outside of it. have them be going after rhodey. after steve.
like, we know marvel would never have done this because of pentagon budget. but it would've FUCKED to have wanda and peitro be actively trying to tear down the us military. and then still be accepted into the avengers with very little contest from anyone else. that would've rocked that would be rad.
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why did you imply that your self insert in any way is related to william afton you want the serial killer as your dad or something? cringe
You know, cringe culture is a lot like William Afton; dead as fuck, but people like you keep trying to bring it back.
Now if you do want reasons for why I made this decision, I can provide them.
My main reason for deciding to do this with a lot of my characters comes down to being able to explore the canon in a different way than most similar stories may approach it. People don’t dare make their self inserts related to the popular characters of their respective canons, because they don’t want it to seem self-indulgent or “cringe”. They also become afraid of getting hate asks like this.
My self insert is implied to be part of the Afton family in one timeline, while actually being part of the family in the other, because it gives me many ways to explore the character and put her in unique situations. Most self inserts and even original characters are presented as random people who just walked into this insane scenario and decided to stay for…reasons? I like the context to be a bit deeper…
In my fic Into the Breach (ITB), Becca is being near constantly bombarded by Glitchtrap’s influence, as he attempts to brainwash her into being an object in his sick delusions. She learns way more than she’d like to about the past of the Afton family, as if to make her feel more invested in them than any of her real family still alive outside. Even her real parents are killed off by Vanny. This is William’s effort to isolate her from the rest of the cast who are trying to help her move forward.
In Bound to Imagination (BTI) Becca is actually the immensely sheltered fourth Afton child. She’s very smart and mature for her age, knowing more about the family secrets than she realizes. However, in fear of tragedy repeating itself, nobody really taught her to trust her own judgements or feelings. This is what eventually leads to her death, as she only gets conflicting messages from the “adults” outside. Then, as a spirit with the other children, her eyes will be opened to everything.
Both of these narratives allow for interesting things to happen and I think they parallel each other beautifully. If I just did “me as I am now but suddenly in FNAF” it wouldn’t be a very long or eventful story… Now would it? Also, Scott Cawthon literally did the same “character is related to main antagonist” thing with the reveal of Micheal Afton being the protagonist of nearly every game. He said himself he struggled with getting the motivations of the characters to stay at a horrific place like Freddy’s for minimum wage to make logical sense.
Most adults and kids for that matter not personally connected to the situation would leave promptly to save themselves a violent death. I simply wondered, “Gee, what if the one navigating the aftermath of all this history of family trauma was still a kid themselves? What if the murders all came before them and now they were discovering their lives were an illusion crafted by their so-called father to prepare them as the next one to go? That’d be compelling and terrifying! Yeah, I could work a self insert into that to give more depth and it’d be great!”
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stagefoureddiediaz · 2 years
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having a minor breakdown over this;
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Because WHY?? 
WHY ARE THEY DRESSED ALMOST THE SAME?? 
Like I know Eddie’s trousers are more camel/tan coloured, while Sheila’s are khaki, but I mean they’re basically dressed the same - down to the white undershirts and the rolled up sleeves!!! They could’ve put her in a black undershirt or a different coloured shirt or anything, but no they chose to basically dress her in the female version of Eddies outfit!
Actually now I’m sitting here typing this out, I’m starting to think this might actually be an insanely clever way of paralleling/ contrasting seasons 2 & 3 and foreshadowing whats been going on in season 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🤯🤯🤯
lets do this in order
The only other time (I can think of off the top of my head) we’ve seen Eddie in that undershirt and shirt combo was 2x07 when Shannon came back, but he was wearing jeans then (don’t get me started on the whole double denim thing 😂) and Christopher wasn’t present - physically at least - but he was in the sense that Eddie only got in touch with Shannon for Christophers benefit - to get him into Durrand school - but he doesn’t intend to let her back into his life leading to that all important line when Shannon says
“Eddie always knows whats best for everyone”
Moving on to 3x03 and Eddie drops Christopher off with Buck (and reassures Buck in the process) - it is this moment that truly signifies and cements the bond between Buddifer - which grows into the will etc etc. Its another example of Eddie knowing whats best for everyone (Buddie Eddie/Shannon paralleling much!) only this time he actually is doing whats best for everyone - but the important thing here is that he communicates - yes he actually uses his words “there’s no one I trust more with my son than you” its also in that golden moment before everything starts to spiral out and Eddie closes back in on himself!
In 4x13 Sheila thinks she’s looking out for her son and providing for him (She is mentally ill - which is important) when the reality is that she isn’t looking out for her son - her actions are not in his best interests and are doing him harm - Charlie even tells Eddie he knows what Sheila has been doing to him “I see her put the eyedrops in my food, she thinks I don’t, but I do” 
Then we get to what Eddie is doing in season 5?? Eddie thinks what he’s doing is in Christophers best interests, but it’s not - his repression and refusal to face up to his trauma is the equivalent of Sheila putting eyedrops in Charlies food - Eddie is mentally ill and it is harming his son. I am not saying that what Eddie is doing is FIDA by any stretch, more that the parallel is the mental health side of things - the writers have deliberately created a parallel that highlights the need for parents to take care of their own mental health in order to look after their children - its genius writing!
Where falling through the balcony floor was the (literal) breaking point for Sheila (because it led to the discovery of what she was doing and I’m assuming meant she was taken off to get mental health treatment!) Christophers meltdown was the same moment for Eddie -almost like he had the rug pulled out from underneath him and discovered there was no floor beneath - so now he’s falling - which has led to his breaking point and him leaving the 118.
The thing is Eddie has reverted - he’s back to “always knowing whats best for everyone” without actually talking to them - god what I’d give to see what would’ve happened if Buck hadn’t filed that lawsuit - because Eddie was really starting to open up to Buck and communicate with him - and the lawsuit shut that down and its never been opened back up...
ok thats enough spiralling for tonight, but man on man is that some insanely clever storytelling through the contrasts and parallels of costumes - its making me feral!!!!! 
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appleciders · 3 years
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Rachel + Leah + Water, the Director’s Cut!
Okay, so I made this gifset exploring Rachel and Leah and the ocean, but because there’s a ten gif limit and a major point of gifsets is for them to look nice, I had to sacrifice a lot of the behind the scenes thoughts and initial versions that came along the way. I still wanted to talk about them though, because I found a lot of them really cool, so I figured I’d stick all that in this post. It’s gonna get long, so you can find the rest under the cut!
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So first up, we have Leah as we first see her in the water. (I’m using shitty screenshots because tumblr has a 2mb limit for gifs on text posts and I don’t feel like compressing these down lmao.) Here, she’s face-down, unconscious, floating on a fragment of the plane. This is the first time we see any of the girls in the water.
As Leah gives her dramatic speech talks to the detectives, we see flashbacks to the girl’s lives pre-island. There we see that one of them already has a very strong relationship with the water already, in her before-life: Rachel.
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Rachel, as we know, is a diver. We see her take a magnificent tumble into the pool, but when she surfaces, her coach is sternly head-shaking. She corrects Rachel’s form, and after she walks away, Rachel echoes the correction, clearly frustrated with herself. 
Back to Leah. We next see Leah waking up on her lil chunk of flotsam. When she realizes what the hell’s going on, she does what we all would do and starts screaming in terror.
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Her panic gets interrupted by Jeannette’s classic Raise Your Glass ringtone. (This was my alarm for two years in high school, and when I watched this for the first time I did have an out-of-body experience). She swims her way over to the Hello Kitty suitcase and—irrationally—unzips it, but we’ll cut her some slack because she’s in some serious shock. As she tries to get the phone, it slips through her fingers and starts spiraling down to the bottom of the ocean. She dives after it.
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Unfortunately, she quickly runs out of air and has to give up. She then spots Jeannette floating nearby, checks her out, judges her to be “just a little roughed up,” and then sees land and has a big oh-thank-fuck moment. Because we saw Gretchen’s team placing all of the girls, we know that Linh and Leah were the only two that were put out in the open water. The other girls were put in the beach, or, in Martha’s case, near the shore. This was probably done to quell some of Leah’s suspicions about the crash, but it does give me a couple questions about how they got the other girls wet—did they hose them all down? Pour a couple buckets over their heads? Bob each of them up and down a couple times in a big net like fries in a fryer?? 
Anyway, not important. 
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Next that we see, Leah has pulled Jeannette/Linh in from the water. (My Australian parents, who can never pass up an opportunity to give ocean safety tips, chimed in at this point in our first watch to say “See how she’s doing it! You always want to hold someone from behind and pull them in that way. Good job, well done.” So there’s some approval for you, Leah.) As Leah nears the shore, Dot and Toni come tearing in and they help pull the two of them out. 
The rest of the episode after that really only concerns fresh water—Toni and Shelby set out in search of it, to no avail, and Nora helpfully plugs Diet Coke reminds us multiple times that sugar’s heavier than water, so “sugar sinks.” We do set up a goal for the next couple episodes, though: Rachel says, “I'm gonna swim out to the plane tomorrow. See if I can find anything,” and Leah volunteers to come with. Rachel gives her a nod of respect.
Moving on to episode two, we have Rachel and Leah’s (iconic) first real conversation. Rachel says she’s still going out to the wreckage. Leah looks out and looks back at her, incredulous, and says, “Rachel, the water’s insane.” Here’s a big recurring association—the water and “insanity.” (I use insanity here because that’s the language they use, along with psycho/crazy. In no way does that reflect my actual beliefs about their behavior nor am I condoning the way they use those words.) Leah points out the rip current (“well done,” said my mum), and explains her very brief stint as a norcal surfer. Rachel still looks set on going, but then Leah says:
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Turns out, Leah can be as ripe with foreshadowing as Fatin. This marks the appearance of their second main association with the ocean—death. After she says this, Leah turns Rachel’s attention inland, and the two agree to climb a big hill to scope out their situation.
Episode two is also obviously Rachel’s episode, so we see a lot of her relationship with diving. 
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We see her plunge over and over and over again, drilling technique and form, but despite all her hard work, we learn her coach advised her to quit the team. Instead, Rachel throws herself in twice as hard, and ends up with an eating disorder. By the time the nationals come around, she’s too physically weak to dive safely, and she ends up hitting her head as she goes down. She surfaces in the pool with blood flowing around her.
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She refuses to see that as the end of her diving career. She says she’s gonna “get back out there” and “be fucking great again” and she tells Nora at the end of the episode that she needs her to let her believe that.
In episode three, we finally see Leah and Rachel’s trip out to the plane! Nora comes along with them, her relationship with Rachel smoothed over after the events of ep two. “Nora’s a good swimmer,” Rachel explains as she invites her, “We were both water babies.” Water’s clearly been central to Nora and Rachel’s identities since they were really young. 
The three of them make their escape from the rest of the girls as the topic of building a shelter comes up. “Not interested in putting down roots!” Rachel calls. In keeping with the elements theme, Rachel isn’t looking to be grounded. She climbs super high into the air and she dives deep into the water, but earth isn’t her thing. (See: the quicksand scene. Whoops.)
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Anyway, the three of them paddle out into the water. Rachel dives down, scopes out the plane, tells Nora she doesn’t expect her to “fucking free dive in open water,” and then looks to Leah and asks if she’s ready. Leah reluctantly agrees. 
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We get our first shot Rachel swimming down into the ocean and our second shot of Leah (first the phone, second the plane). In the wreckage of the plane, they discover the black box, affixed to the wall. They keep trying to wrench it free, but it’s stuck, and Leah—who’s primary activity is, like, reading—keeps having to surface for air. Rachel gets frustrated and grabs her leg, holding her down. 
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Leah screams and fights, but Rachel doesn’t let go. We cut away, and when we see them again, they’ve emerged victorious (Rachel) and drowned as dogs after a bath (Leah and Nora) with the black box in hand. Later, Leah mutters the above line to Fatin, calling Rachel a “psychopath.” For those keeping score at home, here’s where we refer back to the association between water and “insanity.”
In episode four, the ocean benevolently bestows a bag of takis upon Nora, and we have our whole shelter-building shebang. It’s all very land-based until Leah and Fatin go head to head, which ends with Fatin smearing her blood all over Leah’s face. Leah, with her usual flair, strips off her clothes as she walks into the ocean. She stays down there, passively letting the water wash the blood from her face.
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This shot parallels a couple things. First, the drifting blood visually parallels Rachel in the pool after her diving injury. Second, we have Rachel staring out at the water where Leah’s disappeared and going, “Man, that is some real Virginia Woolf-type shit.” Dot has no fucking clue what she means, so Fatin interprets: “It means that bitch is crazy. She said you were the psychopath of the group.” Now it’s Leah who’s done something in the water that’s been deemed insane. The water and “insanity;” the water and accusations of insanity within their relationship. 
Those accusations pop up in episode five, but the episode is pretty focused on the inland search for Fatin, and revolves around fresh water, not salt water. (That could be a whole nother post lol.) It’s in episode six where we again see these two return to the ocean. 
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Rachel is diving in the ocean! For fun! She’s picking up pretty shells (which granted isn’t the safest thing to do in the pacific, cone snails are not our friends), and she’s grinning, and she’s generally enjoying herself. With the, uh, finale situation, we’re probably not gonna get to see her smile for a bit, which is sad, because she should get to do this more often! This shot visually echoes her diving for the plane and Leah diving for the phone, except she can be in a better mood because there is no end goal. 
So she goes diving, ends up finding a bunch of mussels, gathers ‘em up, and brings ‘em back to camp. They all chow down, but wind up with serious food poisoning. Martha and Toni ring death’s doorbell a couple of times. Rachel blames herself—she’s the one that went swimming out there, she brought the mussels back. Again, we see that connection between the ocean and death.
And that association comes back bright an early in ep seven! The tide surges higher than they’ve ever seen, taking down their shelter and leaving them all scrambling. 
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While Leah convinces Fatin that her life is more important than her suitcase, Rachel is left with a decision: help Nora, screaming to her from where she’s clinging to a rock for dear life, or grab the black box. In a move that contrasts Toni’s immediate and unquestioning aid of Martha, Rachel picks the black box. 
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After, when they’re debriefing, Nora’s quick to bring it up. She doesn’t hide her hurt. “It happened so fast,” she says, “we all acted irrationally. Like Fatin, who jumped into a rip current to save her toothbrush. Or Rachel, who left me for fucking dead.” I think this counts as a double whammy for the “insanity” and death count—I think “acted irrationally” is as close as Nora gets to calling anyone crazy, and is honestly a better descriptor of all the other instances of “insanity” that we’ve seen, and the ocean was the source of the very real risk to Nora’s life. 
(Honestly, I think Rachel thought she was making a rational choice here—just with some grim fucking calculus. Still, given that nobody’d responded to the black box by then, I think it was a decision fueled by the need to keep hold of hope more than actual rationality.) In a fun contrast to the rest of the episode, it’s Leah that keeps a level head in this situation. 
The rest of the episode is low on water scenes, though Leah’s paranoia about Shelby is fueled by her sneaking off to the water, which could fall under the “insanity” category. It also marks where Nora begins to take an active role in breaking apart Rachel’s fantasy about diving again. 
Ep eight has one of the best montages in a series of great montages, with the playing in the water scene! A plane has seen them, they’re gonna be saved, and they all get to get high and act like kids. 
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I have this lingering and probably irrational concern that the entire water play scene is choreographed and that it’s chock-full of foreshadowing. Like I know to some extent they likely were just like “yeah guys go goof off in the water,” but like...the wave pulling Rachel and Nora apart here...I mean.... (Rachel is probably gonna get more blood on Dot in the near future, too. ) That aside, their horseplay gets interrupted when Leah notices some blood on Dot, which Rachel realizes is her own period blood.  
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Fatin then chimes in with her ever-gleeful foreshadowing: “Shark week for Rachel.” So while this whole encounter with the water actually seems mostly good for a change, it’s colored by the tie-in to what we know is coming.
In ep nine, reality has set in that rescue isn’t imminent. Everyone’s starving, Leah has started to spiral, and Rachel’s unusually skittish. By the tide’s edge, Nora asks for her help fishing, but Rachel refuses, saying that she’s weak. Nora flicks water at her, and Rachel flinches, clearly scared.
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Starvation seems to have triggered Rachel’s trauma around the water leftover from her diving accident. In response, Nora reaches out a hand and says, “Let’s go for a walk.”
Meanwhile, Leah’s spiral has reached critical. She starts ranting about the ocean and the water and pushes past Dot, sprinting into the waves:
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And so she’s taken to heart the way they think Jeannette’s body “escaped” the island—the tide—and it’s been spun like cotton candy in her head. She’s right, technically—Jeanette/Linh’s body was moved off the island by boat, and there’s definitely an argument that if they really did all swim out Gretchen’s team would save them, or at least try to. This is also a very real suicide attempt. So it’s kind of a culmination of the threats of death and mental health issues that’ve been wrapped up in the ocean since the start.
On Rachel’s end, Nora has taken her up to a cliff. Rachel calls the whole thing “borderline insane,” walking up when they’re so low on energy, but Nora tells her she needs to make a truce between herself and the water. 
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“You’re afraid of it now,” she says, and Rachel replies that, “All it ever did was make me sick.” Nora immediately surges forward to say “That’s not true!” Rachel, incredulous, says, “Isn't this what you want? For me to hang it up? For me to forget the whole fucking diving game?” Nora says, “No. I don't know. I don't want you to forget you.” She then tells Rachel she should dive off the end of the cliff, that she marked it to make sure it’s safe. Rachel says she can’t.
There’s a lot here. First, there’s the first time we’ve seen of Rachel explicitly call herself sick. In episode two, even in a treatment center, she still denies it, says she’s just an athlete who knows what it takes. But now she’s reached a place where she acknowledges her eating disorder—and also probably her recent illness with the mussels—and ties it directly to the water. It’s the reason she’s sick.
Nora’s fear that Rachel will forget herself also just hammers home how central the water has always been to Rachel’s identity. Cutting herself off from the water would be cutting off a core part of herself. (...whoops) And we’ve seen that it does bring her actual joy, when she’s allowed to relax with it, but she’s had such traumatic associations rolled up into it now. Nora doesn’t want Rachel to do diving as a sport anymore, because of how badly it’s hurt her, but she does want Rachel to keep diving and swimming as like, a form of unevaluated personal expression.
At the moment that Rachel’s refusing to jump, she and Nora hear shouts from the mainland. They see Fatin and Dot screaming after Leah. Confused, Nora asks, “Where is she going?” but Rachel understands immediately, with absolute certainty, without needing to be told—“To fucking drown to death.” Seven episodes after Leah called heading into the water a death wish, she’s finally proving it true. Rachel squares her shoulders, takes a few deep breaths, and sprints into a dive. 
Unlike all her other dives high altitude dives we’ve seen her do, this dive isn’t qualified based on aesthetics. This dive matters because of what it will do, not on how it looks. And what it does do is bring her into the ocean, where she needs to be for her friend. So with strong strokes, she swims out towards Leah.
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When she reaches her, she takes hold of her, pulls her into her chest from behind. She begins to swim with her back to shore. This rescue directly parallels Leah’s rescue of Linh that we talked about above. It also, as the Out in the Wilds podcast insightfully pointed out, really calls Rachel and Leah’s relationship back to the beginning. Whereas Rachel had initially held Leah down in the water, putting her in danger of drowning, Rachel here pulls her out of the water, saving her from drowning. Together, they make it all the way back to the shore.
Finally (and, like, if you’ve made it all the way down here? bless you. thank you), we have episode ten. The ocean doesn’t really figure into episode ten until the very end. Rachel has had a long episode of healing—she’s happy to be full and she’s in a good place with her sister and things seem to be going pretty okay. She decides to heal her relationship with the water, too. She heads out, telling Nora that she’s “Just gonna float, Nor. Just float.”
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Just floating. After all the times we saw her plunging into the water, purposefully, with frustration, with drive, with so much to prove and with so much sacrifice and self-abuse to prove it with, Rachel finally just wants to float. She wants to let herself relax. She wants to let the water carry her.
Of course, that means there has to be, like, a massive marine carnivore waiting to mistake her for a seal.
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Visually, this shot really parallels the opening shot of Leah on the fragment of plane. Instead of being face-down, though, she’s face-up, and she’s conscious, just not of the threat from below. 
The shark bites.
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In a horrible parallel to Leah’s Virginia Woolf moment and Rachel’s diving accident, we see blood pool in the water. Rachel is pulled under. The girls on the land start screaming and running toward her. We know Rachel doesn’t die, but this is still a near-death experience, one that probably cost her her arm. Leah, covered in dirt and her own blood after crawling out of the pit Nora led her into, can only stand and watch, shocked and horrified.
So that got! Way longer than I meant it to! And honestly most of this was condensed into very concise tags in a post I made a few days ago! But if you made it all the way down here, you’ve now seen everything I wanted to fit into that gifset but couldn’t. Thanks for sticking with me, friend <3
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My Over Analysis on Miraculous. Part 3.
Season 4
“Truth”
“Now that I’m the guardian, I have to keep my secret now more than ever.” Marinette says. I find this line hilarious because both Alya and Luka know her identity now and I wouldn’t be surprised if more people find out (we know bunnix knows her secret, who else is going to find out?).
CN is upset that LB forgot about their patrol and she tells him, “I promise I won’t ever forget our patrols ever again.” It’s all downhill from here.
Now Ivan knows Marinette is in love with Adrien. Besides Nino, I don’t believe any of the other guys in class knew about it.
“Don’t worry! I’d never claw a secret out of you, M’lady.”
LB to CN, “What do you think of my new role as Guardian?” “As long as it doesn’t change things with us, then I'm good.” :(
Hawkmoth at the end of the episode says, “Truth is underway, Ladybug. And nothing can stop it.” The reveal is going to happen soon (I hope).
“He can change his name as much as he likes, he’ll still never win.” “You can count on me and my jokes, Bugaboo.”
“Lies”
When Plagg tells Adrien to sample different cheeses (in the love department) we cut to a scene where there are two different cheeses in front of him. He isn’t just explicitly falling for Kagami. He was always falling for Marinette as well!
When Kagami is trying to sketch Adrien and he makes the Chat Noir pose, she says;“You’re not at all natural.” “Yes I am. I promise this is me!” She can’t accept the other side of him, she doesn’t even acknowledge that it exists. Marinette will! I’m sure of it.
Adrien was hesitant to kiss Kagami. In Truth, we see Marinette and Luka are both on the same page, but Adrien with Kagami looks very uncertain.
“And what if everything in our world is just a lie?” Why would Hawkmoth say that? It could be nothing, but it feels so out of place I can’t help wondering what the writer's intentions were?
That’s the second time Marinette’s lucky charm has been akumatized.
CN to LB before he falls into the beam “No, don't do it! What if I fail?!” “You know what? I trust you.” This show really does make sure to let us know that no matter what, Chat Noir always believes in Ladybug.
LB to CN after she fixes everything, “Seriously! You have got to stop doing this to me!” “Yeah, but I can’t resist this angry little pout of yours when you bring me back.” Aww, definitely feels like foreshadowing.
“We keep secrets, and lie. But we always trust each other.”
“Gang of Secrets”
When CN says “Pound it!” She’s distracted and doesn’t right away. This is the start of them becoming more distant.
“You know, if you ever want to talk about anything I’m here for you.” CN says to LB as they leave the theater and she completely ignores him and ditches him.
The girls have a “Rabbit Check”. That’s interesting.
Alix is also the only one that doesn’t immediately give up. She says “It cannot end like this!” while all the other girls gave in. Might be nothing, just find it interesting.
“You’ve made mistakes before, Ladybug. And you’ll make them again, and then I will discover your secret.” There’s a heavy motif of mistakes and choices in this season. This is the beginning of it.
“Mr.Pigeon 72”
Adrien is specifically allergic to pigeon feather in this episode. Previously he was allergic to all feathers. Could his allergy to feathers be a red herring in the series?
Alya’s Grandma always says, “Life is not about waiting for the storm to pass, it’s about learning how to dance in the rain.” When things go aerie, we have to learn to overcome them.
Ladies and Gentlemen, there it is! Finally! Adrien, Marinette and a red rose all on screen at the same time. As Adrien and Marinette are falling into the pool together, there is a pigeon carrying a red rose. It’s framed so that the pigeon is behind Adrien, signifying that he loves her, he just isn’t aware of it yet. I really hope this is the season Marinette reveals her true feelings for Adrien!
Plagg and Alya both tell Adrien and Marinette that they're insane. I just think that’s a cute parallel.
I'm starting to notice a motif of Adrien flying. It’s pretty constant throughout this season too.
When Marinette is helping Kagami meet Adriens gaze, it’s stated that Adrien thought he saw one of his friends from school. Kagami goes to a different school, he was looking at Marinette.
Marinette says to Kagami, “It’s because you're too far apart! It’s when you’re really close that you feel it!” Is this a metaphor for the wall between them?
Marinette to Kagami, “We haven’t gone back far enough in time to the moment you fell in love!” Hmmmmmm. When Marinette is able to give back the umbrella, will Adrien too realize his love for her? Or is it more literal than that?
“Yes! Create. The only limits are the ones you put on yourself!” Oooo.
When Marinette is offering back the umbrella she says, “I can finally give it back.” But Adrien isn’t ready to accept it yet. The umbrella is a symbol of love in this show, so once he gets it back.. “Keep it, you’re going to need it to get through all of this.” I know in the scene he’s referring to the rain, but there is definitely an undertone of something much bigger. Not only that, he could have easily said, “Keep it, you're going to need it to get through the rain.” But he doesn’t. He says ‘all this’ referring to the storm that’s coming. But they shared the umbrella for a brief time. She’s going to need him too to get through everything.
I think there’s going to be a moment where Adrien has to choose between his father, and Marinette, but the next time he’s going to choose Marinette. However as LB and HM, he might just start by choosing HM (as indicated by him getting in the car). The fact that he looks back though, means he’d rather be going with her.
“Life is not about waiting for the storm to pass, but learning to dance in the rain.”
In the end card, Adrien has Marinette’s scarf on for 3 of the 4 pictures. While Ladybug’s eye’s look lovingly at them from the background, and Marinette dancing in the rain. Will the scarf come back and play an important role? Maybe the scarf to Adrien will become what the umbrella is to Marinette.
“Furious Fu”
When Marinette is telling the Guardian she doesn’t know who the owner of the cat miraculous since they are, “supposed to keep our identities a secret”, the Guardian looks at her confused but says nothing. That rule must have been implemented by Master Fu, and not a core rule of the Guardians. We know both Alya and Luka learn that Marinette is Ladybug, so maybe we will continue to see her open up and trust others with her identity too.
CN says to LB “Trust yourself, Ladybug. Like I do.” He really always does believe in her.
CN is so afraid of losing LB, he’s willing to stand up to the Guardian. Hope he show’s some of that same when he faces his dad.
HM says to his butterfly, “A scorned authority, a confused man defeated.” Is this foreshadowing to Adrien standing up to his dad, as well as CN standing up to HM?
CN cataclysms the soccer ball. The miracle box has had a lot of parallels to the soccer ball in this episode. Hope it’s not foreshadowing.
HM says, “Be careful with that box, you wouldn’t want to lose it again.”
The Guardian says, “Your natural instincts tell you who you can trust.” Even if CN goes rogue in this season, I think she will always trust him. He will always be a good guy.
The Guardian tells Marinette that he cannot imagine what would happen if the miracle box were to fall into the wrong hands, but that he’s trusting her to take care of it. A lot of allusion to Marinette losing the box in this episode.
“Sole Crusher”
“Sorry, Chat Noir. I got held up.” LB says it so nonchalantly that I didn’t understand it was a pun until the second time I watched it. Good writing.
The end card hints at Chloe becoming Queen Banana.
“Queen Banana”
The colors of the costumes immediately stand out. The green one for creation, and the red one for destruction. The colors are opposite to that of LB and CN. So which one does Marinette see herself as? In the next scene we get our answer. When the reporter is talking about costumes it pans to Alya (who is holding up the green costume) and Marinette who is holding up the red costume. The play that pans out directly parallel that of LB and CN, even if they say it’s not (as Marinette tell’s the kwamis it’s a movie, make belief).
(Alya holding up the green costume might signify that she’s on equal footing to CN and she’s going to be equally as important to the events. But I’m not as certain of this as the other stuff. Thought it was an interesting point regardless.)
Zoey says (as she is in the green costume) while practicing her lines, “You may hate me, but I will always love you.” This line is said four times throughout the episode, making it very important. The line is very Chat Noir in nature, and the fact that we have already seen Marinette holding up the red costume (to signify her role in the events) we can conclude that this is what Chat Noir is going to be saying to Ladybug regarding this big event. There is another hint at this in another episode we haven’t talked about yet. But I will point it out once we get there.
“You may hate me but I love you, and I always will.”
In the film, the entire population has been put into an enchanted sleep. But why? The only other time we see a character in "an enchanted sleep" is Emilie. Could this foreshadow that in order for Emilie to be brought back, everyone else will fall asleep?
When Chloe is getting mad about her role, Nino says, “But those two roles are equally as important.” We can’t forget there would be no LB without CN.
Marinette is the one who puts Adrien in the cage after Chloe orders a better challenge for her. “My father said it was for the good of the film.” So once again Adrien is trapped thanks to his dad. Marinette also takes charge and says “The first thing we are going to do is get Adrien out of that cage!” Foreshadowing? She may have led Adrien into his fathers grasp, but ultimately she’s also the one to get him out.
Zoey hits Mylene with a beam and Mylene drops to the ground (I also want to note that the sound that is made when Mylene is hit by the beam is the same sound that is used for Hawkmoth’s transformation. It’s also another allusion to LB getting cataclysmed, we've seen this hinted at a lot but whether it actually happens is another thing. The sound used to revive Adrien is different.) It’s interesting that Adrien was brought back by his movie counterpart. I wonder what that means for Adrien and Chat Noir?
“You may hate me, but I love you and I always will. Even if the whole world hates you.” Big foreshadowing.
The end card still shows Chloe in a purple aura, no one else has any other color change. Hinting at another akumatized Chloe, possibly the finale?
“Mega Leech”
Gabriel says to Andre, “When one fights for a good cause, one always finds a solution.” Gabriel believes his cause is good so maybe he will succeed?
“Buy us some time, Kitty!” “How come I’m always the one who has to buy us time” He says it with a smile, but that distance between them is growing and CN is showing it.
CN may have been possessed, but he did try to take her miraculous. This is a running theme in the show (It might not be hinting at anything bigger, but I'll put it here as a note anyways).
CN says, “Hey guys, wait up! Group pose!” He’s the last one in the frame, he’s being left behind.
This episode is also particularly interesting as it is the first time LB was able to defeat an akuma WITHOUT the use of CN’s powers. Not a good sign.
Gabriel and Adrien talking at the end of the episode, “Adrien, you took a stand against me today.” “I didn’t take a stand against you, father! I took a stand against a project my friend said was bad for the plane--”. Gabriel raises his left hand to stop Adrien. It completely engulfs Adrien and we get a good glimpse at Gabriel's ring. “Adrien. Go to your room.” Adrien obeys without any arguments. Gabriel plays with his ring behind his back while staring up the stairs squinting ever so slightly. There is obviously a connection between Adrien and those rings.
“Guilt trip”
When Gabriel is talking to his akuma he says, “Oh how well I know that feeling of loneliness. That anxiety no one else can share, and that only an Akuma can ease.” That’s so sad. But Gabriel does it to himself.
Marinette falls into Adrien and they stare at each other for a moment while the background changes to pink bubbles (signifying love) and he smiles softly at her. I’m starting to wonder if Adrien likes how clumsy Marinette is. If Adrien’s love language is touch, then he sure does get to touch her a lot, haha!
“Don’t feel bad about telling us, Juleka. You held out as long as you could, but it was just too much to bear alone.” This line parallels Marinette and Alya, but I wonder if it will also parallel Ladybug and Chat Noir by the end of the season?
When the gang is able to help Juleka overcome her loneliness, HM says; “Impossible! How can an abyss of loneliness just vanish?” It cuts to a wider frame so the audience can see just how alone HM is…
When the class goes to find Juleka after she runs away to the bathroom, Chloe, Sabrina and Lila are the only ones that don’t get up. Not really a surprise but i’ll note it anyways.
When Nino is inside the sentimonster he says, “I can’t even help my best bud stand up to his old man.” I think he will though, in the season finale. With the help of Marinette, of course!
CN says, “We should just give him our miraculous”. Then LB says, “Chat Noir, you have to think positive! You’re the greatest partner anyone could have!” She means it, but has a hard time showing it via her actions because she’s so afraid of revealing her identity to him. “Ladybug, do you really mean that?” “Yes! I probably don’t tell you this enough, but I couldn’t do this without you! And it would be a lot less fun too.” Chat Noir is able to break free from the bubbles and start cracking jokes. But. There is still. One. Purple. Bubble. Left. On. Him. He still has his doubts and it’s going to show later on in the season.
“Pigella’s powers shows the person it affects their hearts greatest desire.” I didn’t think much of Pigella’s powers the first time I watched this episode. I wrote it off as lame. But now rewatching and overanalyzing the series, I think she’s going to play a big role in the future. Whether she uses her powers on Gabriel, or Chat Noir.
“We don’t always need a spectacular fight to succeed.” LB says to CN.
“Crocoduel”
Shadowmoth says, “A group of friends are surprised to find out that ‘two’ of them have been keeping secrets.” This is 100% in reference to Marinette and Adrien keeping their identities. However, when the group finds out it’s a very positive reaction. They’re fears are for not!
“A young girl whose biggest fear has come true! What could be worse than not being loved by your own father?” Is this in reference to Chat Blanc? Or maybe CN turning on LB?
“Bugaboo, promise me we won’t be a couple like that when we get older?” “In order for that to happen we’d have to be a couple first, Kitty Cat.” She’s not full on rejecting him anymore.
“Optigami”
Adrien keeps smiling sweetly at Marinette when she’s being weird now. It’s really sweet and shows how fond he is of her now.
Style Queen to Shadowmoth “And I’ll get you the two trinkets you’re so obsessed with.” They're not the only two trinkets he’s obsessed with.
When Marinette and Adrien get stuck in the elevator, Marinette very sure of herself says; “I’m sure Chat Noir will be along to save us!” He replies, “Yeah or… Ladybug.” He however, doesn’t sound nearly as sure of himself, again showing the distance growing between them.
Even though we know Adrien is afraid of being trapped, he seems okay in the elevator because Marinette is there.
When Rena Rouge comes to save Marinette, she quite literally removes Chat Noir from the picture.
LB and CN banter, “To know me is to love me.” “On second thought.” She laughs. She doesn’t fully reject him though!
When CN asks LB how she knew the Akuma was in the miraculous she says,“Thanks to my lucky charm, Kitty Cat. It always shows me the right way. Except this time, I had gotten the villain wrong.” This feels like foreshadowing.
On the end card, it show’s Rena Rouge basically engulfing the screen, while CN is tiny in comparison. LB is pushing CN off to the side, not on purpose but it’s clearly happening.
“Sentibubbler”
In Marinette nightmare, it reveals all her biggest fears. Alya betrays her trust, Shadowmoth with the miracle box, Chat Blanc. What if all these things end up happening? Chloe is there too talking about how ridiculous keeping secret identities are. Could she be the voice of reason for once? Haha.
When Marinette goes over to Alya she says, “Not even Chat Noir can know” (in regards to secret identities). She needs to open up and trust Chat Noir more. That’s one of her biggest mistakes, and this whole season's motif is about mistakes and how to fix them.
“You were right to give me a miracu--grr!” Alya doesn’t finish her sentence. This gives me ominous vibes.
Tikki to Marinette, “ Trust Alya, Marinette. She’s never let you down before.” Yet! “ You’re right, plus I'm sure Chat Noir will show up soon.”
Marinette to Tikki once she sees Alya needs ‘help’, “Then Chat Noir is our last hope.” I think so. It reminds me of the movie they made earlier in the season, and how Zoey (in the green costume) saved everyone.
Alya’s Illusion “I’d never betray you, Ladybug.” Hmm.
Ladybug to Chat Noir, “This could have been the end of Shadowmoth.” “ You know, I really thought today was the end of Chat Noir, but you guys had it under control.” He doesn’t just mean the end because his miraculous was taken. He feels like it’s the end of their teamwork.
Gabriel talking to Natalie, “Ladybug never makes a mistake!” “Don’t give up. Everyone make’s mistakes. One day, she’ll make one too. And when that day comes, your wish will come true.” There’s the motif of mistakes again. I think Natalie is right. Ladybug is going to make a mistake, but how she fixes it will be important too.
“Rocketear”
In the movie theater Nino and Alya are watching the LB and CN animated film. There’s a particular line that is said between LB and CN, “Chat Noir, come back!” Is this a hint that he’s going to leave the team? “I’ll always love you, Ladybug!” And there it is! The line that confirms what I speculated in Queen Banana. “I love you, and I always will.” I think they make these moments very missable on purpose. If you’re not paying attention, you miss it really easily. I know I sure did before this over analyses.
When CN and Alya are talking on the rooftop and Alya laughs at CN she says, “Besides, I don’t know your real identity. I could never fall for someone I didn’t know.” This might be a slight at Marinette and Adrien. Until they know who the other really is, they’ll never be able to fully give themselves to one another.
When Nino tells Adrien that Alya and him know each other's secret identity, Adrien looks so hurt. “Ladybug would never allow that.” “She’s the one who gave us our miraculous at the same time.” “No that’s… Impossible.”
Alya and Rocketear, “I can’t believe I ever doubted you..” “I can’t believe I ever chose to do something over spending time with you.” “I’m so sorry..” He said as he cries a tear. Alya wipes the tear, paralleling the scene in Chat Blanc. If Alya can help Nino overcome being Rocketear, then LB can help CN overcome Chat Blanc.
“Love and secrets don’t mix, Ladybug. I’m sure you have many secrets too.” Shadowmoth says at the end of the episode. She has to be honest with Adrien if she ever wants a chance of being with him.
“Everyone has doubts now and then. Even me...” Chat Noir says as a huge poster of Adrien is staring at LB, almost disapprovingly. When CN and LB depart after, he looks so sad. I really feel for this boy. Everyone he loves is keeping him in the dark at this point.
“I can’t hide it from you, Nino. Because I love you, and we share everything.” Alya and Nino embrace. That’s how it should be. Ladybug has to find the courage to be honest with Chat Noir too, or she will never overcome Shadowmoth.
The end card is foreboding. With Chat Noir looking up at a bubble that looks like the moon. One of Marinette's biggest fears may be closer to coming true than she realizes.
“Wishmaker”
The art teacher tells Chloe, “ You know, Chloe. People are defined by their choices, and what they do with their lives.” This goes pretty hand in hand with the mistake motif of this season. We might make mistakes but it’s how we choose to overcome them that makes us who we are.
Plagg and Adrien talking, “Don’t you want to continue to be a model?” “I don’t think so, Plagg. I’m only doing it now because my father asked me to.” We all know how obedient Adrien can be when it comes to his father… “I realize now I don’t know what else I want to do. I never asked myself that question.” :( “Since Ladybug keeps handing out miraculous, the day will come where she won’t need me anymore.” There is no Ladybug without Chat Noir.
As Marinette is struggling with figuring out what she wants for her future, Sass begins floating in front of her and says; “Marinette. What is the real important thing that will bring meaning to your life?” He asks her as he hovers in front of a photo collage of Adrien.
When Luka is talking to Marinette and Alec by the beach, Marinette tells Luka, “You definitely have a gift for finding the right words at the right time.” As Adrien sutley enters the background behind her. She too will find the right words for Adrien when the time is right.
Not really a note, but can we talk about how romantic and amazing Luka is? Too good for this world, haha!
Adrien while talking to Luka and Marinette, “If I don’t figure it out, my father will decide for me once again.” “I thought I’d be content doing whatever my father wanted me to do.” “My father arranges it all for me, but if I think about what I want to do… Nothing! My mind’s empty.” These lines really hurt my head. He’s so clearly being controlled by his father, but something along the way has changed. He is no longer satisfied doing what his father wants him to do.
Luka tells Adrien, “Your song, Adrien, sounds like it’s being muffled by someone playing a sad piano tune. But your true melody is a happy one.” Once Adrien can overcome his father, his true nature will be revealed and he will become the happy boy we all know and love him for.
Alec gets sad and says, “I’ve been making the wrong choices all my life.” There’s that motif again.
“He’s mistaking dreams for reality.”
LB and CN bantering, “The knitting fairy? Seriously?” “What about you? What did you wanna be when you were young? You’re making fun of me, but you’re too embarrassed to tell me.” “Actually, I don’t know what I wanted to be..” “You probably wanted to be a fireman, or a magician.” Trait she sees in CN. Having fun, and being brave. But I can’t help but think, didn’t Felix also want to be a magician?
CN to Wishmaker, “Don’t waste your breath. I didn’t have any (in regards to dreams).” “Every child has a dream.” Unless… he skipped that phase of his life?
When CN gets hit, he goes directly under the picture of his mother. “When I was a kid, I always wanted to be what my parents wanted me to be!” And then it’s just Adrien. So who is Adrien Agreste? Is Adrien truly Adrien? Or is he modelled after someone else?
Adrien is going to start looking forward to the future and forget about the past. This reminds me of a famous quote, “I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant. It is what you choose to do with the gift of life that determines who you are.” -Mewtwo from Pokemon the First Movie.
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I love this so much for a variety of reasons - one is that it’s one more confirmation that XQC is not devoid of feelings, he just suppresses them and has done so for so long that it’s instinctive now (but earlier chapter referred to him having intense feelings; and remember him before the treatment? He was the very definition of intense) plus he honestly has to, to keep going (not just because of illness but because if he ever actually properly contemplated the wreck and ruin his life became, he would be justified to start howling and never stop.)
But the other is that sharing his secret with He Yu has somehow liberated him (that ink metaphor is beautiful even in rough MTL btw) because just like HY he was so very alone since QCY died (there is a reason after QCY’s death he imagines QCY walking into his room with a click; such a parallel to HY imagining HY in his room) and now he is not - you cannot ever have a true relationship with someone (platonic or romantic) without them knowing you on a basic level and after QCY’s death there was nobody for XQC who did. And now HY is there. Puppy dragon is not the only one who was howlingly lonely, it’s just XQC dwelt in it for so long he didn’t even think about it any more.
And I look forward to his slow emotional thawing because he is not cold by nature and honestly, it will be so glorious to see him rejoin the world emotionally. And I love that it’s clear it will be gradual.
Let’s see, other things:
1. XQC drinking a bottle of wine by yourself in your hotel room is how alcoholism starts.
2. HY coming in with hot cocoa. Awww. Under all the rest of the insanity, HY is honestly a caretaker and XQC needs someone like that around since he’s terrible about it for himself.
3. Awwww, He Yu hugs XQC and it’s actually tender and loving and EEE! Tenderness is so rare between them that !!!
4. This is delightful!
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In general because this is the dynamic I am here for but also because XQC actually showing temper is wonderful because it’s a sign of his feeling (and this time not under extreme provocation or anything, just annoyance.)
5. OOOOH!
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He Yu discovering consent and also that other people are fully fledged individuals with their own existences is glorious. This is a first step on a long road for him tbh but the fact that he took it is a good sign that he is not hopeless and can actually mature and change and become a decent person. Even if he backslides now and again (which wouldn’t surprise me, people are complicated) the fact that he’s capable of thinking like this is huge.
6. He Yu asking XQC to hug him back before he leaves the room and XQC going: “nope!” was glorious. Because XQC points out that a lot changed for HY but not for XQC (though that is not fully correct of course - XQC is less alone and because of all the convo in the water and HY explaining things a bit, he doesn’t super hate him any more.)
7. I love the passage which says that HY gets that in leaving XQC failed him but that betrayal is behavior of a normal person and XQC is not - the reason I love this is because HY had so much resentment and treated XQC the way he did not just because he (wrongly) thought XQC was a hypocrite who looked down on mentally ill people but because he also put him on a pedestal as the best and unshakeable and perfect and best and unshakeable and perfect are not allowed flaws or wrong choices. But now he sees XQC as a real person (and that is huge, most people aren’t really real to HY, you get the sense) and also one as damaged as he is and therefore of course he can make suboptimal choices, and that’s forgivable and that’s understandable and that’s fine.
8. That A/N with Mo Xi and Mo Ran judging is hilarious!
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yaz-the-spaz · 4 years
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So I’m new to the Ziam fandom, I’m a strong larrie but I also couldn’t help to notice that there was something between Z*yn and L*am too. Could you tell me about the tiger tattoo? I keep hearing that its an iconic Ziam tattoo and I’m a little confused. Also, do you think Ziam is still together right now in 2020 and could you explain why? I hope this isn’t a bother.
hey nonnie, welcome to this side of the fandom! and please don’t worry, you are not a bother at all, and we are always happy to have new members! please accept this adorable gif of ziam waving hello as your welcoming gift into the ziam fandom lol! 😊🌈
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now onto your question about the tiger tattoo...
hooo boy, nonnie
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 idk if you know what you’re asking because this is a BIG life-altering question.
BIG.
...are you ready for this? 
are you ready to die? are you ready to have your soul ascend from your body up to the gay ziam heavens for all eternity? 
i mean it’s pretty nice up here and all but you may just wanna get your affairs in order before you continue, cause once you discover all the ways zayn javadd malik has professed his undying and eternal love for liam james payne all over his goddamn body there is no coming back.
are you absolutely sure you’re ready?
ok, here we go!
so. once upon a time way back in october 2013 zayn debuted a new tattoo of a tiger on his arm. at the time it seemed like just another tattoo in a quickly growing long list of (random) tattoos, and went by relatively untalked about among fandom (at least afaik) for a couple of years. but THEN, in early 2016 zayn followed that tattoo up with the addition of the full title of his m.o.m. album spelled out around the tiger...
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seems normal, right?
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first off, notice how the tiger’s tail is shaped suspiciously like an L?
well, that’s not all that’s gay i mean odd or interesting about this tattoo lol...some have also noticed that the muscles of the tiger’s back quite remarkably appear to resemble the muscles of a certain boy whose name also starts with L 
(and no i’m not talking about louis lol)
but here’s where shit really gets real because guess what? you may have noticed that the letters of the ‘mine’ part are kind of shuffled in an odd/not really consecutive order to spell out the word mine in a way that’s clearly or easily readable...that’s because zayn’s extra ass arranged it specifically so that only the i, e, and m, are all directly around the L-shaped tiger tail, while the n is just off to the side like a lonely forgotten reject
by now you might be saying to yourself okay, well that’s not really all that significant to liam, and the L could just be a coincidence/not really mean anything, couldn’t it?
wrong again!
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because once more, zayn ‘i live to be as extra as humanly possible about my love for liam james payne because i don’t know any other way to live’ malik made sure to put a little tail/extra line on the side of the letter ‘e’ to make it interchangeable with an upside down letter ‘a.’ 
now again you might be thinking i don’t know if that’s really intentional or all that meaningful. but look closely. 
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there is clearly an additional connected piece on that e that cannot be explained away or mistaken for just a weird blot of ink. it’s not just an error on the part of the tattoo artist (if it was i’m sure zayn would have had it fixed by now given that he’s had that tat for over 4 years at this point) and there’s also no letter ‘a’ in ‘mind of mine.’ 
so why is it there? and why does it just so happen to be right next to the i, the m, and the L-shaped tiger tail. why did zayn choose to arrange the letters of the word ‘mine’ in such a weird order instead of a more normal/easier to read format like the rest of the album title? and why did he choose put those exact letters all near each other? because it’s intentional. and because it’s meant to have a very particular double meaning.
if he was going for just a random order he could’ve put those letters anywhere. but he didn’t. and more than that he went out of his way to make sure that that additional piece on the e was added and distinct so that it could very clearly double as an (unnecessary) a. 
there’s no way you can argue that all of those things are just coincidence or that the random letter ‘a’ means absolutely nothing lol. that tattoo was clearly meant as both an homage to the album and to liam (who the album is largely believed to be about lol). and the fact that the muscles seem to match quite closely to liam’s is a nice added bonus that just helps confirm that imo. (plus there’s also the lovely little tidbit of knowledge that the tattoo is positioned in such a way that whenever zayn wears short-sleeve shirts the ‘Liam’ part is the only part clearly on display 😏😏😏)
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BUT GUESS WHAT??
THAT IS NOT EVEN WHERE ZAYN’S TATTOO DEDICATIONS ENDDDD
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never mind that he already had all of us ziams sobbing ourselves to death and morphing into withered soulless husks over this tattoo after he debuted the full thing in 2016, but there’s so! many! more!
boy’s body is literally a giant ass open love letter to liam and i am NOT OKAY. (have i mentioned i hate these extra ass romantic saps with every fiber of my being? no? well i do. and you’re about to find out all the reasons why)
reason #1 - all. the. goddamn. mandala. tattoos. (there are multiple but i’m only linking to this post featuring/talking about the main one, i.e. the very first one he got cause that’s the one that kills me the most but if you wanna see the others peep my ziam tattoos tag or my zayn’s tattoos tag)
reason #2 - love & marriage poem tattoo (read all the posts in this tag starting from the bottom first for full context)
reason #3 - red wolf & bat wings chest tattoo
reason #4 - wolf leg tattoo (more background details here too)
reason #5 - liam’s silhouette leg tattoo
reason #6 - smoking lips hand tattoo (which literally matches the album art for liam’s debut single exactly and was debuted on zayn’s hand months before the single’s release - scroll down to the part where you can see the red lip pics)
reason #7 - the snake tattoo (aka the snake habitat tattoo)
reason #8 - motherfuckin 25!! idk what it means but it clearly means SOMETHING important to the both of them and it still drives me insane to this day and probably will to my dying breath 🤬 
bonus - it’s not a tattoo but: zayn’s nose piercing. which along with the mandala wrist tat is literally a desi bride declaration of marriage; fun fact - tan france, a gay married british-pakistani tv personality who is part of the queer eye crew also has a mandala tat on his left hand that some have speculated may also be to symbolize his dedication to his husband)
anyway there are more tattoos of zayn’s that seem to also be related to liam (though more loosely imo) but this post is already beyonddd long enough so i figured it’s best to just stick to the main ones/most obvious ones here lol 
(side note: liam also has tattoos that are clearly dedicated to zayn/his and zayn’s relationship as well, but that’s for another post and also if my recall is correct i think zayn might actually have more?? well that we know of anyway lol)
(side note 2.0: one other thing that adds to the theory of the m.o.m. tiger tattoo being a dedication to liam/liam’s name, besides the obvious lettering thing described above, is that zayn is known to have a thing for tattooing the names of his closest loved ones on his body. the only person in his immediate family whose name he doesn’t appear to have tattooed on him is trisha’s and i’d be willing to bet that’s either because she specifically asked him not to, or he does have one but it’s just in a very hidden place. but we know that he has his father’s name, grandfather’s name, and all of his sister’s names tattooed on him so when you combine that with the weird lettering of the m.o.m. tiger tat and the fact that the album was very likely about liam/closely followed the story of the beginning of his relationship with liam, it becomes even less plausible imo that that tattoo is meant to be about anything else but liam. ain’t science grand?)
(side note 3.0: zayn’s whole left arm/left sleeve of tats seems to be specifically reserved for tattoos dedicated to liam and/or related/connected to liam’s own tattoos, and there’s a couple of good posts here - x, x, x, x - that go through some of the more specific parallels between their tattoos and how certain ones seem to mirror or directly pair with each other’s)
ok i promise that’s it for the side notes lol!
lastly, to your final question, i do believe that they are still together currently, especially considering this most recent soft outing/confirmation from one of zayn’s songwriters (who is also not the first to do that either btw lol) but that is not the only reason - see my post here for some of the biggest reasons why i believe ziam remains real and strong :)
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ofherlionheart · 2 years
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5 (🥺🤲🏻), 7 for any fic, and 18 for the q game !
5: Share a snippet that you’re proud of from an upcoming fic/chapter.
from like the suuuuuuuuun. we all know sokka gasses up z to everyone who’ll listen to him.
Chief Arnook rises, and before he realizes what’s happening, Zuko’s being pulled into a strong hug. He’s surprised to find that he and the chief are the same height. “My daughter knew the pressure and burden of duty well,” he says into Zuko’s ear. “I admire the conviction and strength it must have taken for you to reject the expectations that your father laid on you.”
Zuko’s throat tightens. He doesn’t deserve this warmth and praise; he’s done nothing to earn it. Whether Sokka knows it or not, Sokka’s given Zuko a gift. “You speak too kindly,” Zuko murmurs.
7: Were there any ideas you had for [insert fic] that you couldn’t make work? What were they?
oh yeahhhh, baby. boo chronicles + hey batter batter probs had them but i’ve forgotten them by now. like the sun has HELLA and i’m p sure they’re still in my doc … give me a min …
here’s a sampling! copied and pasted so u get my exact planning language lol i think im so funny
mai becomes a weapons instructor at royal fire academy for girls
lmao what if zuko has a ‘gone insane, be back later’ moment but doesn’t tell anyone he’s running away and he’s only discovered in some random ass ex-colony in the earth kingdom b/c sokka hires june to find him and june is like u disaster gays
S drags Z to underground MMA or something n Z is like how can u be so sophisticated but also so not?? iroh also loves underground MMA n he n sokka bond over it and z is like Why am i surrounded by Chads [note: this turned into toph dragging zuko to underground MMA]
S becomes a white lotus member n one time when a lotus member comes asking for help via pai sho match, S purposely messes up the pattern to deny the person access b/c sokka is like they’re Sus
at one point long ago ty lee was going to adopt a child and rope mai into it and the child was going to instinctively know how to heal with firebending (ty lee and mai did NOT expect that) but then i was like. wait ty lee will only be 17 by the end of like the sun im nOT giving her a child
18: Do you feel like your work gets enough recognition? What kind of feedback do you like to receive?
bro who’s to say what “enough recognition” means? i try to write for myself, so any recognition at all by others is more than enough and more than expected. i do love it when people note that they can see the attention to detail/care/time i put into a piece — because these stories DO take up more brain space and time than they probably should, lmao. 
i love specific comments/feedback — e.g. X line made me feel this, b/c of Y line i wasn’t expecting Z, i noticed that B detail relates to C event/D line in this way. i esp. love that last variation — it tells me that my writing is truly engaging people, and their comment often points out parallels/connections that i hadn’t even noticed/intentionally worked in. and that’s super fun to see!
it’s a fic ask game!
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hatsukeii · 4 years
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hello! could you possibly do a scenario where tsukki has a secret passion for dancing, n one of his favs genres to listen to is like 80's music ?? i prefer it to be like raining n dark, just you two. i want tsukki n the girl to be like rly good friends, but tuskki lowkey likes her jus a bit n the girl is like totes in love with him, but they dont rly know about each other, until they like kiss after the songs stops. wkhsjdbf idk if this is too much but i love your writing sm!! thank you. 🥺❤
Okay that’s super cute so don’t worry lool
80s and indie music are SUPERIOR NO ONE TELL ME OTHERWISE.
I was looking through my playlist bc I have 80s songs but then I realised IT’S ALL ROCK LMFAO SO I HAD TO STEAL SONGS FROM MY FRIENDS JAHAHAH
Like I can’t make them dance to ACDC or like Guns n’ Roses wtf are they gonna do air guitars?
But then I realised I literally have a song called we can get together sooo👀👀👀👀
And I genuinely love it so much SOOOO👀👀
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Earphones// Tsukishima Kei x Reader
Word count: 2000+
Warnings: None lol I’m not even gonna warn for swearing anymore if it’s just swearing then none
Summary: You randomly discover Tsukishima’s knack for dancing.
You always saw him as a calm, or sly person. He was witty, mean, sarcastic, an asshole in every way possible. He was that one person that would call everyone out for looking stupid while dancing at a party, or the one that would remind couples on Valentine's day that it was to celebrate the death of a tortured and beheaded saint. He was pretty much the most no-bullshit person you’ve ever met. It was as if he simply didn’t understand the meaning of enjoyment, and thrived to seek out every opportunity to ruin it for others as well. He rarely went to social events, never showed up at parties, and you don’t think you’ve ever seen him smile genuinely. Ever. 
Yet tonight, you witnessed something you never thought would happen.
You see, every night, you would take a good old stroll around your neighbourhood. Tonight was no different, except it was pouring, the constant pitter patter of your umbrella clouding out any other sound that was coherent. Sometimes you might run into street vendors, other times you would get a bowl of ramen to fulfil your midnight hunger.
Walking along the street to your favourite convenience store, instead of an eerily empty park, what you saw was Tsukishima Kei, the one person you were somehow close to, sitting in a park, with no headphones on. What a shocker.
Ever since you gave him those iconic white headphones, he has never gone anywhere without them. It was as if those headphones were a staple of your friendship, or more so, how much he meant to you. Just saying, those things were expensive. Like eighteen thousand yen expensive. You knew how much Tsukishima enjoyed listening to music, especially whilst doing work. You saved up for months, just to scrape together enough money to get him a brand new pair of headphones to replace his broken ones that only worked in one ear and had shitty quality. You would never admit it, but something in your heart clenched at the sight of the absence of those headphones you spent so much on. Many might have thought you were just sensitive, but they didn’t understand. In fact, no one would understand how insanely in love you were with him. 
“Hey, beanstalk.”
The blond looked up from his phone, his legs crossed on the bench.
“Well, would you look who’s here. It’s the infamous shorty.”
You approached his hunched-over figure, taking a seat next to him on the bench. “So, why are you here? It’s pretty late already.” Shoving your earphones into your ear, you hastily scrolled through your playlist, trying to hold off the urge to ask where his headphones were. “Lost my umbrella while going home from practise, it’s raining cats and dogs, I’m not looking to get soaked while going home, so I’m waiting for the rain to stop. Thank God I brought an extra sweater, my uniform is all wet and gross.” Chuckling, you punched him playfully, muttering a quick “Idiot,” before picking a song. You were very low-key about your feelings towards him. God knows how he would react if you ever told him. He would probably ignore you for the rest of your high school lives. Even worse, he might make fun of you for being childish and emotional. Just the thought of it sent shivers up your spine and a dark feeling towards your chest. Shaking your head, you tried your best to drown yourself in the terrifyingly loud music that was blasting through your earphones. From next to you, Tsukishima could hear every single note that was playing from the internal speakers. He scooted closer to you, much to your embarrassment. You grabbed your phone, pretending to scroll through it when in reality, you were just trying to hide the burning blush that was now painted on your cheeks. He paid attention to every little sound that came out of those tiny little earbuds, as if trying to figure out what song you were listening to was a fun game. Noticing the sudden absence of music in your left ear, you heard a tiny, almost breathy chuckle, followed by a pull on the earphone jack. “Pulp, hm? Nice taste you got there.” your eyes widened in surprise, mouth curling up into a wide smile. “Ahhh, never thought the great Tsukishima Kei would know them.” The blond smirked, shoving the rubber tip into his ear. “What do you mean? I have a playlist dedicated to this kind of stuff. 80s music will forever be superior.” You rolled your eyes, not falling for his shit. “Nonono, no way. Hand it over, I need to see for myself. I’m convinced you’re listening to raptor mating calls on a daily basis.” The blond shrugged, dropping his phone onto your lap. “See for yourself.” Opening up his Spotify, you were bombarded with a huge selection of his playlists. “Right there shorty, that’s the one you’re looking for?” Pointing his nimble finger at a specific one that was labeled “Old Stuff,” you scrolled through every single song, not believing what you’re seeing. “Holy shit, and I thought you would be into indie or EDM or something like that. This is some new information that I have to process.” Snatching his phone back, he wiped the screen with his sweater, turning it off. “That’s enough snooping for today. Come back at snooping hours again.”
It was at that moment, did the song decide to change. 
“Yeah, no. We’re skipping this shit.” You acted sad, fake pouting and huffing out. “But Tsukishima! All Star is God’s work, you can’t just skip it! Here, I’ll sing it for you!” The blond tried to look at you in disgust, but the smile he was holding back was clear as day, biting his lip as he tried not to laugh at your silly antics. “Oh God (Y/N) please no-” 
Too late.
“SomeBODY ONCE TOLD ME THE WORRRLD WAS GONNA ROLL ME, I AIN’T THE SHARPEST TOOL IN THE SHEDDDD.”
“Absolutely not.” Laughing softly, Tsukishima managed to heave out.
Grabbing your phone and shoving it in front of your face, he unlocked it with ease, navigating his way through the five pages of otome games to find your Spotify. “Jesus Christ, never knew you were this desperate for a man.” The tips of his ears were red, one thought circling his mind. 
If she really wanted a boyfriend, would she pick him? 
Grabbing his arm, you begged for him to let you continue jamming to All Star. You were shaking him, trying to grab your phone, but nothing worked. “Nooo! Kei! Nooooo lemme listen to the Shrek sex anthem!” 
“No.” 
Scrolling through your usual playlist, his eyes landed on one particular song. “Hm? What’s this? You listen to Icehouse? Nice taste you got there.” Your grip on his arm loosened up as you looked up at him in shock. “You know them too! Yes! They’re very much adequate.” You stared in awe as the blond smiled from ear to ear, picking a song much to your dismay. “Yesss I love this song with my whole heart. My dinosaurs make way for this.” Hearing the similar synth, you instantly knew what he had picked. “Seriously? You like this song? It’s like cheesy as shit! This is so out of character for you oh my God Kei.” Tsukishima rolled his eyes, completely done with you. “It’s a good song, don’t come at me. Plus, if you think it’s so cheesy, then just delete it.” You frowned. You liked that it was cheesy. You always imagined someone singing it to you, most of the time this imaginary person being Tsukishima. “I like this song too, it’s fine.” The two of you sat in comfortable silence, your earphone jack being the only thing connecting you guys. The park felt weird. You felt weird. This whole situation was weirdly unreal. It was as if the two of you were stuck in a parallel universe, where you and Tsukishima were the only people that existed in that timeline. The silence was thick in the starry night sky, the streetlamps occasionally flickering as the song continued to play. Humming along to the addicting tune, you don’t even realise your body that’s starting to rock, arms swaying from side to side to the rhythm of the chorus. 
“We can get together,“
“Get up.”
A hand comes into your sight, willing for you to take it as you feel another tug on your earphones.
“What?”
“You wanna dance, don’t you?”
Never in a million years, would the thought of Tsukishima being able to dance even cross your mind.
 “What? It’s raining, I thought you said you didn’t wanna get soaked-”
“Just take my hand and dance with me.”
Hesitating a bit as you looked up at the blond, you raised a brow, grinning playfully as you let your hand fall into his, pulling yourself up and letting him take your other hand. You felt the cold droplets of water fall onto your skin and rolling off, the fabric of your shirt going damp.
“Just take one step forward,” he instructed, motioning for you to follow along with his dance moves. “Then take another step backwards. Everything else will come into place soon enough.” Lacing your fingers with his, the two of you danced in perfect sync, having the time of your lives. “I am learning so, so much about you right now and I’m all for it. Why’d you never tell me you could dance?” Tsukishima’s cheeks went a light pink, looking away bashfully. “It’s embarrassing.” Chuckling, you twirled yourself around, pulling on his arm as you forced his attention back onto you. “It’s not. I think it’s super cool. Do this with a girl and they’ll be head over heels for you in no time.” You mentally facepalmed yourself for saying that. His blush went from a light pink, to a dark red in no time, saturating his cheeks like paint. “Let’s test that theory out.” Mumbling to himself, he continued to guide you, twirling you around and hoisting you up at times.
“Baby we can get together, we can get together.”
The two of you were just jamming along now, not caring about your wet hair and soaked clothes. Tsukishima’s hair was now a damp mess, sticking to his forehead as he whipped his head from side to side, laughing as water droplets flew off his blond strands. Your hair was no better than his, (H/C) strands reflecting the light from the streetlamps as they hit your face with every sway of your head. The earphones were falling off at this point, but it didn’t matter. The two of you already memorised the entire song beforehand. All you wanted was to enjoy the short moment. Grabbing his wet hand again, you randomly started jumping to the beat, letting the blond follow along.
“Later sometime, you can buckle my shoes, you can pick up my sticks, why don't you open that door.”
You gasped in surprise as you felt a large hand spin you around one last time, before dipping you dangerously close to the floor, rainwater rolling off your face. The song came to an end with its final guitar chord, the reverb still ringing in the background. “So, what’d you think?” Tsukishima leaned down, his face dangerously close to yours. Feeling a Cheshire grin form on your face as your tried to raise your head up, you gave his nose a boop with your own, before falling back onto his hand. “That was amazing.” Giving you a cheeky grin, you could feel his breath on your face as he sighed contentedly. His breath smelled like mints, you couldn’t help but wonder how lips would taste too. “You good now, or do you wanna go home? I think the rain just stopped.
Still in that intimate position, you decided to finally ask him.
“Where are the headphones?”
“I didn’t want to get them wet, they’re too important to me. They’re in my bag.”
And that’s when your body decided to act on its own.
Your mind couldn’t even register what you were doing as you pressed a long, soft kiss on Tsukishima’s lips, feeling the heat radiating off of him.
“Now I’m good. Wanna go home?”
“Did you just-”
“Yes.”
Pushing you back up to a comfortable position, he stared at you for another ten seconds, face burning crimson as his mouth opened and shut repeatedly, trying to process what you just did. Finally snapping out of his thoughts, he awkwardly leaned towards you, before pulling himself back. After doing that a few times over, you were properly confused. Grabbing your shoulders, he pressed a firm kiss to your forehead, before grabbing his bag from the bench he was sitting on, pulling his headphones out and hanging them on his neck, handing you the earphones.
“Wanna do this again tomorrow shorty?”
“11pm sharp, don’t be late, and I expect another kiss.”
“Whatever you say cutie.”
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Eyyyy this isn’t that great but I hope you like it and feel free to give me feedback both good and bad lol love you guys I’m going to sleep now baiiii
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thebibliomancer · 3 years
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Essential Avengers: King-Size Annual Avengers #11: In Honor’s Name!
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August, 1982
“Why do the AVENGERS battle the Defenders?”
I dunno, man. Is it Tuesday again?
“And who is the mystery woman Nebulon has fallen for?”
Nebulona? She’s clearly just him but a woman.
Oh, hey Beast. So this is where you got to after quitting the Avengers.
Soooo.... Annuals, amirite? Pain in my butt. I actually forgot to cover this one and #12 is going to be somewhat plot relevant soon so I’ll shove this in wherever.
Its a blast from the past of the previous year.  Back when the Avengers were fantastic but only numbered four: Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, and Wasp.
And the Defenders seem to number many so this isn’t a very fair fight at all.
This issue starts with a PRELUDE
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(J. M. DeMatteis again? Is this going to be weird?)
Nebulon the Celestial Man and damn fine dresser fades onto a hilltop shaking his fist and yelling that someone can’t do something to him.
Nebulon is mostly a Defenders villain and the major thing I know about him is that he’s supposedly exceptionally handsome but the handsomeness is a ruse and that the Squadron Sinister stopped helping him destroy the world once because they discovered he wasn’t as handsome as he was letting on.
Goes to show where their priorities lie. Also, the experience was so jarring that the evil Nighthawk decided to join the Defenders much to their chagrin.
So basically I know nothing about Nebulon. Hi, Nebulon.
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An angry yelly fish head with the Rocky Horror Picture Show lips inside its fish lips shows up (I think this is what Nebulon realy looks like) and tells Nebulon that his punishment for constantly dicking with Earth is to be stranded on Earth with his powers reduced to half and stuck in his handsome-to-some-but-grotesque-to-fish body.
Okay. That clears things up.
Although I wish all of space would stop using Earth as their place to dump stuff or exile people. Its bad enough when Asgard does it. Its worse enough when there’s a whole crossover about all of space deciding to make Earth its supermax jail. And its a medium amount enough here.
But apparently the shouty fish people have a Prime Directive and Nebulon keeps breaking it, specifically on Earth. But a Prime Directive that also lets them dump troublemakers on planets where they’ve been troublemaking.
Nebulon tries to defend himself that, hey, Earth makes you do crazy stuff. But the yell fish is hearing nothing of it and just tells Nebulon to kill himself if he doesn’t want to be on Earth so bad.
... Eesh.
In his rage at being stranded on Earth, Nebulon teleports inside the Sanctum Sanctorum and starts yelling at Wong.
Wong tells him, dude, Dr Strange isn’t even here. So Nebulon starts beating up Wong.
How dare you, sir. Wong is a great guy!
Nebulon: “Then Wong shall die -- just as your master shall soon die -- and his accursed Defenders with him! They shall all pay for bringing this tragedy down on my head! For, if they had not risen up to thwart me. If they -- if they... Listen to me. Listen to the words of -- a fool! Forgive me, Wong! Neither you, Strange, nor the Defenders are responsible! The blame belongs solely to -- NEBULON!”
And then he teleports away, no doubt leaving Wong very confused.
CHAPTER 1: IN HONOR’S NAME!
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Later, Thor flies over the Himalaya mountains and over the chapter title.
He has come for some peace and quiet sitting on a mountain away from the bustle of mortals but what does he find but someone already in his thinking spot!
Thor lands to see who would be sitting on a mountain with no pants on and its Nebulon, of course.
But I have to say. He’s sitting and hugging his knees. That’s advanced brood. That’s, in fact, verging on pout.
Although lets not let the fact that Thor flies out to the Himalayas to be alone sometimes slip on by uncommented.
Thor asks what brings the guy out here and Nebulon has a dramatic exile speech ready to go.
Nebulon: “For hours now I have sat, lost in thought, pondering that very question! What is it that brings any creature to the depths of despair, the edge of doom, but... himself?”
And since he senses a kindred spirit in Thor, one who is as different from the Earthly masses as Nebulon is, he unloads his full story onto Thor’s ears.
Upon hearing all about this dude who tried to take over or sell the world multiple times, Thor is like ‘this guy has got to meet the Avengers!’
Nebulon thinks Avengers sounds like Defenders and he’s not into that but Thor says that the Avengers are way cooler than the Defenders.
(Ooooh, shots fired, Thor)
Thor: “No, my friend -- there are none in all creation to compare with the Avengers! A hardier band of warriors hath ne’er been assembled! Where else could a god walk among mortals and find -- his equals?”
If Nebulon has truly repented of his past deeds, the Avengers will help him make a home on Earth.
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And with a manly armclasp, like the one from Predator, Nebulon accepts and Thor takes him AWAY!
While the person who looks like Nebulon but a woman and with better boots watches them go and disappears in a bright flash of light.
CHAPTER 2
Yes, already.
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“Avengers Mansion... Over the years, many fantastic beings have walked through the doors of this august Manhattan townhouse: Gods, mutants, androids... even a were-woman. But, of all these unique individuals, few -- if any -- have been more honored, more respected... More willing to serve the cause of freedom, wherever the place, whenever the time.. than the living legend whose only powers are his wits, his daring, and his years of hard-won skill... Captain America!”
And we see Cap leaping and gamboling about the exercise room, exercising.
Cap: “Ah -- there’s nothing like a good workout to make a man feel truly alive! It might pay to run through it once more, though --- my timing was a hair off on the parallel bars!”
Wasp comes in to... well, its Wasp. She comes to eye the eye candy and flirt a little, in a friendly fashion.
Wasp: “I see you’re here early for our meeting -- as usual! Don’t you ever slow down?”
Cap: “I seem to remember catching a few winks back in 1942 or so!”
Wasp: “Why, Cap -- that was two jokes in a row! I didn’t think you had it in you!”
Cap: “Oh, come on, Jan -- I’m not really that serious a guy, am I?”
Wasp: “I was just kidding, handsome.”
Cap: “Oh.”
Heh.
So, Thor called a super special emergency meeting of the Avengers to introduce his cool new friend.
Iron Man (secretly Tony Stark, true believers) is a little tense about the meeting because he had to cancel three business conferences, an address to foreign stockholders, and two dates.
Geez, for one meeting? You ever consider your calendar is way too packed, Tony?
Thor arrives with his cool, new pal and introduces the Avengers to NEBULON -- THE CELESTIAL MAN!
And Iron Man lunges out of his chair to get into better pointing distance.
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Thor: “What irks thee, comrade? Why art thou so angered?”
Iron Man: “What irks me, Thor? He does! Haven’t you ever bothered to study our computer-file on alien threats? Your ‘newfound ally’ almost totalled the Earth -- several times!”
Nebulon: “Don’t you see, Thor? They react as I predicted they would!”
Also, geez. I know Tony is frustrated about all the schedule juggling he’s had to do but in this and the Black Knight two-parter he’s a lot ruder to Thor than you’d expect considering how close they are.
Some writers just don’t get the Avengers, I guess.
Cap and Wasp try to get Iron Man to calm down.
Wasp: “I’m sure there’s a darn good reason why Thor brought Nebulon here -- isn’t there?”
She’s downright staring daggers at him when she asks that.
We’ve jumped back in time a little from where I was covering but Jan is still the chairperson of the Avengers. It happened right when she returned from her divorce related hiatus and this four person group has to take place post-Tigra leaving and pre-membership drive.
So, she’s the boss and she just gave angry boss eyes at Thor. And Thor did his default squinting always-looks-pissed look back at her.
Thor tells Nebulon’s whole sad story off-panel.
And damn if it doesn’t hit the Avengers right where they live.
Wasp tells him that they all know what it means to lose something precious “whether it’s an entire world... or the love of one person -- it makes no difference! It hurts to suddenly find yourself -- alone!”
And Captain America sympathizes because when he was defrosted after twenty years, it was like a strange new world!
They’re both on team ‘give Nebulon a chance!’
Iron Man is more reluctant but decides to give Nebulon one chance.
Then the Defenders bust in.
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Beast, Valkyrie, Silver Surfer, and Gargoyle who is not Etrigan at all.
And they’re here to kick Nebulon’s ass. Which is entirely fair considering that they’ve been the ones who keep having to stop Nebulon’s planschemes.
Since the Avengers seem to not be beating up Nebulon, obviously they’ve all been mind controlled. Nebulon is clearly planning to blow up half the Earth and use the Avengers to control the rest.
Cap: ‘what’
Silver Surfer: ‘HE’S MAKING A HOSTILE MOVE!’
And then Silver Surfer blasts the floor, sending all of the Avengers sprawling every which way.
MEANWHILE, IN SPACE
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There’s a huge spaceship, in space. And within the huge spaceship in space, the lady who looks like a lady Nebulon watches the fight on a screen and cries.
Hey, I get it. Doing the Avengers vs Defenders Again But Worse makes me sad too.
CHAPTER 3
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See, that’s more of the length for a chapter. You could learn something from chapter 2, chapter 1.
Anyway, the clock winds back a little for the Defender’s side of the story.
Valkyrie returns to the Sanctum Sanctorum in a good mood and also on a flying horse.
For a long while, Valkyrie’s status quo is that she was inhabiting the body of Barbara Norris, a woman that Dr Strange accidentally drove insane. But she’s gotten her original Asgardian body back so she’s stronger than ever and also not bodyjacking someone else.
She flies into the window, alarming Gargoyle, Beast, and Wong.
Gargoyle tearfully flies up and hugs Valkyrie saying that he thought she was leaving for Asgard forever.
Hey, um, who dis?
-wiki- Ok so he’s an elderly man who was trapped in a gargoyle body by some demons who he broke an agreement with. Cool, cool, cool. I would have guessed much younger based on how he acts here.
Valkyrie also smooshes Beast’s hand when he gives her a handshake hello, because she’s much buffer than she was when she left. Also, she talks more like Thor.
Valkyrie: “I am, at long last, the true Valkyrie! What more need be said?”
Then the Lady Nebulon teleports in and introduces herself as Supernalia. She tells the Defenders that she’s here to save the world from the evil of NEBULON!
Beast doesn’t recognize the name but Valkyrie definitely does. What with all the existing history that I keep alluding to.
Supernalia: “Indeed! I am a bounty hunter from Nebulon’s homeworld come to bring him to justice! He has fled to your Earth, taking sanctuary among the so-called Avengers! Using celestial mind control, he has usurped their will, and -- after decimating part of your world with four pre-set anti-matter bombs -- he plans to use the Avengers to take control of the surviving population!”
Beast goes ‘uh cool story but i’mma verify this real quick by ringing them up’
But then he remembers he already did do that and they were very rude to him!
He remembers this interaction very clearly even though it didn’t happen at all.
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Ironically, the Defenders are the ones who are being mind-controlled into accusing other people of being mind-controlled. Yes, I’m pretty sure that’s irony.
Wong suddenly remembers that Nebulon rushed in the previous night but he can’t remember how that interaction actually went.
AH HAH, decides Beast. Clearly proof that Nebulon mind-controlled Wong. Lets go half-cocked everyone.
No, no. Beast decides they’ll need more than just the three of them and wonders who they should call to bolster their numbers to a whole four Defenders. Dr Strange is busy chasing Daimon Hellstrom and Namor soooo...
Valkyrie suggests Silver Surfer because he kicks ass but they have no way to get in contact with him.
Supernalia goes hey allow me.
Supernalia: “Although my planet’s laws forbid direct involvement with alien cultures -- and thus my need of you Defenders -- I can help!”
And she baps Valkyrie in the forehead and instantly transmissions Silver Surfer right to the Sanctum to his existential annoyance.
Silver Surfer: What force has swept me halfway ‘round the world? Who toys with -- the Silver Surfer?”
Valkyrie explains off-panel because this is very much “let me explain! No, there is too much. Let me sum up” kind of day.
CHAPTER 4
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We cut back to right after the Silver Surfer knocked everyone on their ass with a warning shot.
Thor: “Surfer -- art thou mad?! Thy ‘warning’ came close to slaying us all!”
Thor gets up to kick Norrin’s rad ass but Valkyrie grabs his arm. She tries to convince him to trust her that Nebulon is controlling the Avengers. She appeals to their shared history, their shared love.
Thor: “Brunnhilde -- thou art truly the one blinded... by thine own prejudice! Because, once, Nebulon stood as thine enemy -- thou takest him for that again!”
Valkyrie: “Thunderer -- once I loved thee -- but now I see -- that thou art -- A FOOL!”
Then she just up and tosses him.
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It’s pretty great.
Thor just rights himself midtoss by helicoptering his hammer and tells Valkyrie that she’s the fool. And also that because she fucking threw him, now he knows that its her group that are under some kind of control.
Nebulon starts yelling too because he’s not going to sit by while other people fight his battle so he’s like ‘come on if you’re hard enough, dickfenders’ and Beast is like ‘ok.’
Wasp, team leader, thinks Thor is onto something re: the Defenders being against some kind of influence and asks Iron Man to create a distraction so the Avengers can skedaddle.
Iron Man has the perfect distraction and fires the UNIBEEEEAM. At his own roof, collapsing it on the Defenders.
Iron Man: “Wait till Tony gets the bill for this!”
... so depending on the time frame, either only Nebulon or both him and Wasp are the only ones who don’t know Iron Man is Tony so who are you putting on a show for, Tony?
Or maybe you’re just so used to grousing about the Avengers breaking your shit that you do it even when you do it.
Anyway, since Thor has a hunch that the Defenders are being controlled, he decides that the best thing is to teleport somewhere safe and make a plan.
So Nebulon teleports himself and the Avengers to the Himalayas where he and Thor first met.
The effort nearly kills Nebulon, since his powers have been curtailed by the yell fish. But now they have some space.
Wasp: “And don’t think we don’t appreciate it, Nebulon! But couldn’t you have zapped us to a more temperate climate -- like the Bahamas... or the French Riviera? It mean, it’s COLD here!”
Cap hopes that the Defenders won’t find them somewhere so remote and isolated but Thor, whose idea this was by the by, isn’t so sure because they don’t know who is pulling the strings.
Iron Man: “Good point! Are we dealing with one of our old foes -- one of the Defenders’ -- or perhaps someone out for Nebulon’s head! Let’s face it: we’ve got a wide field to choose from!”
Annnnnnd thennnnn, the Defenders just show up anyway so trying to get some breathing room was a waste of Nebulon’s efforts.
Beast: “Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Jan! You’re all my friends... more than that -- you’re family! So why won’t you believe me when I tell you that this nut’s gonna wipe the whole planet out in a matter of hours! Please -- hand him over or --.”
Nebulon: “Or... NOTHING!”
Then he shoots an energy blast at the Defenders.
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Which sadly arcs to the ground with a SHOOOM! and does little more than splash some snow on the Defenders.
But awwww, Beast considers the Avengers family! Shame that once the X-Men pull him back into their orbit, he only hangs out with them and decides never to ask the Avengers for help, either when Professor X gets shot by Stryfe or when trying to solve the Legacy Virus.
I think that social group is a bad influence on Beast. He never broke time or pretended to be gay to dunk on his ex when he was an Avenger. He just got high, practiced polyamory, and yukked it up with his bffsie Wonder Man.
Anyway, Silver Surfer gets up and disses Nebulon for his sad laser blast.
Silver Surfer: “Like all who seek conquest, Nebulon -- you refuse to recognize truth! You alter reality to serve your own malefic ends! But the power you no wield, tyrant, is as nothing compared to that which you once had! You are weak -- as Supernalia said you would be!”
Nebulon is aghast to hear that Supernalia is the one behind all of this. And also aghast when Gargoyle shoots a bio-mystic bolt at him.
Apparently, Gargoyle can shoot bio-mystic bolts. Are there mystic bolts that are not bio? Shrug.
CHAPTER 5
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Hey, some of these chapter divisions feel arbitrary. We go from the fight to the fight. At least some other chapter divisions had scene or temporal shifts.
Cap begs the Defenders to fight off Supernalia’s influence. Or the Avengers will fight off Supernalia’s influence for them. Probably via punches.
For whatever reason, this makes Valkyrie go stickycaps.
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Valkyrie: “The hour of Earth’s doom draws ever closer -- and, to prevent that doom, we will do whate’er we must! wHaTeVeR wE mUsT!”
Mystifying.
Anyway, with both sides thinking the other side are dumb easily mind-controlled doodoo heads, they both get to the slugfest that neither side wants but thinks there’s no other way to reach the other side but by punching some sense into them.
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This panel feels like a microcosm of a lot of Marvel events.
And as this goes on Nebulon just watches the fight with calculating eyes.
I’m sure that’s fine.
Thor and Valkyrie continue sparring verbally, as well as with punches. Valkyrie asks how Thor can let Midgard be destroyed when they both love it so much. And Thor is like ‘for the last time, there’s no danger except from your mysterious new golden pal’
Meanwhile, the Defender’s mysterious new golden pal Supernalia is monitoring the fight from her spaceship. And monitoring the Defenders’ brainwaves.
Thor is actually making Valkyrie doubt. And Supernalia can’t have that.
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Supernalia: “I cannot afford to lose control of the Defenders now! For honor’s sake, their rage must grow! And more -- they must retain a psychological surety that cannot be breached! In Valkyrie’s case, the introduction of something... familiar -- something to increase her confidence -- would seem appropriate!”
So Supernalia teleports Valkyrie’s sweet flying horse Aragorn to just. Appear on the Himalayas. Between Valkyrie and Thor.
Valkyrie doesn’t know how her horse suddenly appeared but she’s not going to look a gift teleporting winged horse in the mouth. She jumps on his back and takes to the air.
Thor gets pissed and hammerflings himself after her.
While Thor is chasing Valkyrie around the sky, Iron Man squares up with Silver Surfer.
Silver Surfer tells Iron Man that “you see to halt one who has outraced comets! Soared faster than light itself!” and basically that he rules, Iron Man sucks. And then to prove it, he blasts Iron Man with the power cosmic.
Just that one attack nearly tore Iron Man apart and he’s pretty sure that Silver Surfer was holding back. Oof, that’s some power gap.
BUT MAYBE just maybe if Iron Man puts all of his might into one staggering punch...
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It’ll do jack shit to the Surfer.
Well, damn.
Gargoyle fights Wasp but says its not proper for a man to fight a lady. Wasp points out ‘hey you’re fighting me anyway so maybe someone is making you do it.’
Gargoyle: ‘.... NUH UH’
Cool. Good talk.
Supernalia: “This Gargoyle is too... soft! His mind accepts -- but his heart rebels! These beings are not like us! Their minds are filled with too many questions! Their souls overflow with conflicting emotions!”
I can’t believe humans (and Asgardians) have too many feelings and emotions to be easily controlled.
Well, I can believe. It really checks out.
So Supernalia increases the celestial mindwaves to shore up her control, even if it means burning out the Defenders.
Rude.
Thor blasts Valkyrie off of Aragorn with lightning and then catches her, saying he won’t let her fall. So, reasonably enough, Valkyrie elbows him in the face for treating her like a damsel.
They both fall toward the ground. Aragorn catches Valkyrie and Thor catches... a cosmic bolt from Silver Surfer.
You had one job, Iron Man.
And that job was to sneak up on Silver Surfer while he’s self-flagellating for doing a shameful opportunistic attack on Thor.
Iron Man uses those... hip... power pod... things. To zap Silver Surfer’s temples and siphon off some of his power.
And with that power, Iron Man tips a chunk of the mountain on top of Silver Surfer.
This doesn’t keep the Surfer down for long. Despite the fact that trying to contain the incredible surfing energies he absorbed threatens to damage his armor, Iron Man absorbs more when Silver Surfer blasts him, to try to turn the energy back at the Surfer.
Instead, they both explode.
Double KO.
Elsewhere in the fight, Gargoyle blasts Wasp with his bio-mystic bolts, knocking her into the snow.
Gargoyle panics because his bio-mystic bolts are supposed to drain off a fraction of a person’s life-force, not up and kill them.
So Gargoyle shouldn’t have been surprised when Wasp pops back up and zaps him in the chin. And Wasp shouldn’t have been surprised when Gargoyle zaps her back.
She passes out. But so does Gargoyle, to his confusion. His hide should be tough enough to take a truckload of punishment, yet he suddenly feels so weak.
I mean. Wasp is strong enough to blow up a house with her own zaps. But this is probably intended to be Supernalia’s mind control burning him out.
I choose to believe that its Wasp’s cool house-blowing-up might. She’s kicked bigger ass than Gargoyle.
Wasp’s defeat scream momentarily distracts Cap from where he’s fisticuffsing with Beast.
Beast: “Holy cow! I hope she’s not badly hurt!”
Cap: “You hope she’s not -- ?! You can still say that after all you’ve done today? After all the pain this Supernalia has driven the Defenders to cause?”
Beast: “We’ve caused? You’re the ones harboring the lunatic with the anti-matter bombs --.”
There’s no guilt-tripping some people.
Cap throws his mighty shield but Beast must not have heard the song because he not only doesn’t yield, he also catches the shield with his feets.
Then he sleds on it down a snowy incline and tackles Cap.
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Beast: “It’s time we quit all this clowning around!”
Cap: “That’s right, Hank! This is serious business -- so hit me! Hit me, blast you! HIT ME!”
Beast: “Hey! wHaT tHe HeCk Am I dOiNg?”
Cap: “Coming to your senses, I hope!”
Beast realizes that Cap dropped his guard and let Beast beat the shit out of him on purpose, let Beast almost kill him.
Cap: “You’re no killer, Hank! And no force, however great, could make you kill! I counted on that fact to snap you out of it!”
Wow, good going, Cap!
Out of everyone here, you’re the only one who successfully snapped anyone out of anything. Although I think Wasp coulda if she had played possum and let Gargoyle think he killed her instead of popping up to zap him.
But Cap has insight into Hank. That probably helped.
Me and Jan know jack about Gargolye.
CHAPTER 6
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With exactly two people conscious but not fighting anymore, Nebulon is like ‘hah eat shit Supernalia’
So Supernalia appears.
Beast feels like he’s about to keel over even though he beat the shit out of Cap and Cap feels weaker too. They blame Supernalia because its very easy to blame someone whose fault everything is.
But Supernalia blames Nebulon.
Nebulon slams a drama bomb in response.
Nebulon: “Do not seek to reclaim the upper hand with more lies, Supernalia! Such sophistry is unbecoming in... my wife!”
I heard that in Borat voice and I hate myself a little.
But now that Supernalia’s relation to Nebulon has been established, Nebulon is like ‘but why are you trying to ruin my exile?’
Supernalia: “You were convicted of high crimes, my husband -- and the sentence was a choice of honorable death by your own hand... or ignominious exile! In 500 generations, none of our people have ever chosen exile! All have proudly faced extinction! But you, lacking courage, brought shame upon your wife and children!”
HE HAS KIDS??
Anyway, she came to Earth to just. Kinda. Kill him. To restore honor to their family.
But when she got there, she found that he had already made friends and decided well I need some pawns of my own. So I can kill him.
Nebulon isn’t really impressed because in his one day as an exile, he’s had some epiphanies.
Nebulon: “Unlike you, I have traveled far across this universe! I have learned to see in new ways! Our concepts of honor are archaic! Our laws are cruel! I now dare to dream higher dreams, for I have learned what it means to have -- friends!”
Supernalia: “I have been your friend... and much more! Since our childhood betrothal have I stood by you -- despite your constant avoidance of responsibilities! Despite your failure to achieve glory or rank!”
Oof, imagine if your childhood friend and spouse told you that being exiled on Earth taught him what friendship really means.
I have to imagine that Cap and Beast are just listening to this like ‘god why do cosmic people always have to dump their relationship baggage on Earth?’
Supernalia then tries to tell Beast and Cap that Actually Nebulon is up to no good.
Beast is like yeah nice try.
But this time Supernalia has actual proof evidence.
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She dispels the invisibility cloak hiding the Ennui Device that Nebulon left on a prior trip to Earth and is now using to drain energy from the Avengers and Defenders to beef himself up.
Now, Cap and Beast turn to Nebulon like ‘but buddy, why?’ and also to punch him a little bit, in a friendly manner.
Nebulon: “I did what I had to -- to survive! Believe me -- I truly wanted the friendship you offered -- but observing the unfolding battle, I realized I could never find peace on this or any world -- without the POWER!”
And this rude boy who doesn’t understand what friendship means punches both Cap and Beast.
Beast sprawls right at Supernalia’s feet completely burned out and goes hey feel like stepping in??
Supernalia: “I can do nothing directly, Beast. I am not permitted to interfere!”
Beast: “You... stupid... self-deluding... idiots! Don’t you understand that all this has happened... because you already have... interfered?!?!”
Supernalia: “So           I              have!”
And since now she’s done the big bad transgress of the Prime Directive, she decides that unlike her shitbird husband, she’s going to do the honorable thing and kill herself.
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I. Have no words. At this entire exchange.
Its too much.
Nebulon is distraught so slaps the gun out of her hand and begs her to instead of killing herself, not do that. She could stay on Earth and rule at his side!
This latest bout of cosmic interpersonal drama gives Cap the opportunity to muster his strength and throw his mighty shield.
It deflects the ray emitter of the Ennui Device so it hits Nebulon instead of the Avengerdefenders.
Except, oops, the Ennui Beam was calibrated for “humanoid physio-psycho energies” so instead of draining his energy, the Ennui Beam just straight up starts killing Nebulon.
Amazing how you can stretch vocabulary to encompass humans, Asgardians, mutants, power cosmic imbued Zenn-Lavians, and whatever demonic biz is going on with the Gargoyle.
It sure is amazing how it affects all these different things as intended but its accidentally fatal in a way that will help wrap up the story.
Beast wet noodle jumps to try to redirect the beam and save Nebulon but Supernalia shoves him out of the way and then jumps into the beam herself.
Supernalia: “Thus, I join my husband -- in oblivion!”
Geez, when she sets her mind to killing herself, she sticks with it
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Nebulon agrees that Actually This is the Right and Correct Course for them, I guess because couple counseling is a hassle.
Then the Ennui Device overloads and explodes and Nebulon and Supernalia turn to their true forms of giant weird fish people with Rocky Horror Picture Show lips inside fish lips.
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Beast laments that Supernalia didn’t just let him save both of them but she’s like ‘HONORRR’ and then dies.
Thor: “I called Nebulon friend and he decieved me! Yet now -- Thor mourns his passing!”
Silver Surfer: “What manner of beings were they, to cherish honor so much... and value life so little?”
Cap: “Perhaps, Surfer -- not so different from us. Not so different -- at all!”
Okay, shut up your face, Cap.
First off, I don’t think much of an honor code that says its okay to mind control and lie to people and use them as pawns in a way that could kill them but then also goes ‘this is an honorable death’ when you stupid yourself to death.
And neither should you! Don’t put a poetic, poignant spin on things! This whole affair was a weird couples spat that two space weirdos forced you to participate in!
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Rey as a Palpatine and Why it’s Grown on Me
Hello my lovelies!
I think it’s been quite a while since I posted any kind of essay on here. Between work and other things I honestly haven’t had much time for it. However in recent days I’ve felt very motivated to work on a very particular kind of essay; a subject that I’ve been stewing over since December of last year.
Obviously from the title you already know what I’m going to be talking about. I’m not going to deny that this is a rather heated subject for some Star Wars fans, particularly those who disliked this plot choice and The Rise of Skywalker in general. As per usual in my essays, my goal is not to change anyone’s mind or argue over who’s opinion is “more right”. Plain and simple, this is just going to be me talking about MY thoughts and MY observations about Rey’s journey and lineage in The Rise of Skywalker. I hope this doesn’t need to be said but if you read something in this essay that you disagree with, I politely ask that you keep it to yourself and move on. At the end of the day, we are just talking about a movie, and this is all just for fun.
Now, with that being said, let’s get started! This essay is definitely going to be a bit more structured than my usual efforts and I hope this will result in a much more straightforward and clear-cut essay. Enjoy!
 1.      My Initial Reaction
 While I don’t want this to be a major part of the essay, I do think it makes sense to start this off with a little story about the time I first saw TROS in the theatre. I can remember it pretty well. My whole body was tense, my eyes glued to the screen for what I knew was about to be some kind of major reveal in the story (even if it felt very late in the film for such a scene). Then came those shocking and irreversible words from Kylo Ren: “You’re his Granddaughter. You are a Palpatine.”
Wait…what?
My mind recoiled at this statement. My heart sank into my stomach with complete rejection. This can’t be right. He must be lying. I don’t like it. I don’t like it one bit. A man behind me just snorted with laughter and I can totally see why. Rey being related to Palpatine sounds more like a crazy Youtube fan theory than something that could actually be canon in the Star Wars universe. We had always thought she might be related to Luke or even Obi-Wan, but…Emperor Palpatine? Darth Sidious? No, just no.
So yeah, suffice to say that my first reaction towards this plot twist was not very positive. I admit that even once the movie was over, I still didn’t like this reveal. I don’t even think I began to warm up to it until my 3rd or 4th viewing of TROS. I had become so used to the idea that Rey had no special lineage and she was just a very force-sensitive girl from nowhere that it was extremely hard to let go of that. And honestly, if JJ and everyone else involved had chosen to keep it that way, I would have been perfectly content. So why…you might ask, has Rey’s true lineage grown on me in the last several months?
Now, don’t get me wrong…there’s still a part of me that thinks it was a very odd choice to introduce a reveal like this considering what happened in the previous installment. However…this fact has already been discussed to death and this essay is intended to be more of a story exploration rather than a critical film review. So let’s talk more about Rey being Palpatine’s Granddaughter and how I have actually grown to love the idea.
 2.      Rey’s Journey
 Throughout the trilogy, Rey has had to overcome quite a few challenges in her path to becoming a Jedi. Her journey has been one of mostly self-discovery and personal growth. In The Force Awakens, Rey discovers that she is strong in the force and can do things she never imagined. In The Last Jedi, Rey’s strength in the force grows stronger and she learns to accept that her parents were nobodies and that some things do not turn out the way we expect.
And so, thematically, it would almost seem like Rey has reached the end of her character arc. This is Rey at her most powerful. There’s nothing left to learn, and there are no more secrets to be revealed…right? Well, we know that this is not the case. Even from the first scene with Rey we know that something is wrong. She knows that something is wrong. There is a darkness inside of her; she fears for her destiny and who she is meant to become. It’s not until later that we understand why these feelings have come to the surface.
Up until TROS, we didn’t truly know who Rey was or where she came from. However, by this point in the story anyone should be able to describe her as a character. Kind. Brave. Resourceful. Curious. Compassionate. Strong. Rey has proven time and time again that she is an incredibly kind and capable individual who wants to do the right thing. Although both TLJ and TROS strongly hint towards Rey possibly turning to the dark side, we know that our protagonist never actually would because we know who Rey is.
And this a huge reason as to why the Rey Palpatine reveal works so well for me. There is an incredible juxtaposition with Rey being the most heroic, kind-hearted person imaginable, and yet she is related to the most evil man in the galaxy. There is something deeply profound about the last living Jedi having Sith blood in her veins. Part of the reason why this reveal is so shocking is because the two characters are complete polar opposites in terms of good and evil. Rey is absolutely nothing like Palpatine and so the familial connection seems impossible. It doesn’t just seem like an unlikely truth, it feels entirely incorrect. And yet, that is also what makes it (again, in my opinion) so interesting and bold.
 3.      Meaning and Impact
 Apart from giving Rey one last emotional challenge in the final installment, I think this choice was made for other reasons as well (3 to be precise).
1.      It made Rey even more similar to Kylo as he too is grappling with the dark influence from his Grandfather
2.      This decision subverts a long-existing trope in fantasy stories
3.      Used to further tie the 9 films together as a story about the Skywalker and Palpatine bloodlines
Since The Force Awakens, it was made very clear early on that Rey and Kylo were connected in some way; their destinies were intertwined. Although this was further explored in TLJ, we would not truly understand just how similar their journeys would become until the final installment. The dynamic between Rey and Kylo is infinitely interesting because at first glance they seem like completely opposite people, when in reality they share a very similar struggle, especially in The Rise of Skywalker.
Both Rey and Kylo experience the overwhelming darkness of their respective families. Kylo even says it quite bluntly before the lightsaber duel on the ruined Death Star: “The dark side is in our nature, surrender to it.” He is quite obviously trying to use Rey’s lineage against her in an attempt to turn her over to his side. What makes this so interesting is that we know Kylo himself is not yet completely taken over by the dark side. Despite his evil deeds, he has always been conflicted during this story.
When Rey finds out that she is related to Emperor Palpatine, she becomes withdrawn, angry, afraid and unstable. This is the closest to the dark side that we have ever seen Rey at. Indeed there are some moments where she almost seems to be channeling behaviour that would be more suited for Kylo (snapping at her friends, using anger as power). Although Rey eventually comes to her senses and realizes what is happening to her, she was clearly affected by her Grandfather’s dark influence, just as Kylo was.
 Despite the fact that both Rey and Kylo come from families with a history of the dark side, the film makes it very clear that one character’s lineage is far “worse” than the other. This is where the subversion of a common fantasy trope takes place. Now, to be clear, this is only my interpretation and I don’t claim this to be exactly what the filmmakers were going for; however this subversion is yet another reason why I enjoy the Rey Palpatine reveal.
How many times have you watched a movie or a TV show where a character’s lineage was a significant part of the story? It’s probably more times than you can count on one hand, right? My point is that the idea of a character’s lineage/family history becoming a main plot element in a story is nothing new, we’ve seen this before a million times. For example, in Disney’s “Tangled” (2010) Rapunzel learns that she is the long lost princess who was taken away from her family when she was an infant. Disney influence aside, does this sound somewhat similar to Rey’s story? Yes, it absolutely does…but not in the traditional or conventional sense.
This is where Rey Palpatine (for me at least), becomes extremely appealing. This reveal is like the evil, twisted version of a heroine discovering that she is the secret heir to a royal family. And instead of the protagonist being overjoyed and enlightened by this information, the reveal comes with great personal shock and emotional turmoil. In this case, Rey is the Granddaughter of Emperor Palpatine, which essentially makes her Sith royalty if we’re being really comparable. Am I the only one who (for lack of better words) thinks this is insanely cool? Not only is it a direct subversion of a very common story trope, it directly ties into Kylo’s arc and it also parallels Luke’s family revelation in “The Empire Strikes Back.” Coincidentally, this also makes Rey’s journey similar to Luke’s in that regard, but I’ll get back to that later.
Now as you’ve probably heard before, as we look back on all 9 films in the Star Wars saga we can see that this is clearly a story about the Skywalker and Palpatine families. Granted, the Palpatine bloodline is largely unexplored in comparison to the former. We know that Rey’s Father was the son of the Emperor, but we still don’t know his name or who he really was. Ultimately this information is not relevant to the story as a whole, but it’s clear that Emperor Palpatine has been pulling the strings throughout basically the entire saga.
More specifically, Palpatine himself has always been tied to the Skywalkers. He seduced Anakin Skywalker to the dark side and later tried to do the same to Luke. Via Snoke he was also able to turn Ben Solo, who shares a dyad with Rey, Palpatine’s Granddaughter. It kind of comes full circle and it’s really quite clever in my opinion. The Villain of the ST is related to the Heroes of the OT, and the Hero of the ST is related to the Villain of the OT (Did I just blow your mind?).
Put simply, Rey being a Palpatine makes a lot more sense thematically when you examine the story that came before her. Families are complicated and messy, especially in Star Wars. Rey’s experience echoes this, but in a much darker and harsher way. Her journey is meant to resemble Luke Skywalker’s in many ways, but their stories do have differences. In Luke’s case, he actually got to see and interact with Anakin, the real face of who his Father was. Anakin Skywalker was certainly not a perfect person, but in his last moments he turned to the light and saved his son’s life.
Rey, of course, did not get to experience a moment even close to this. Palpatine is about as evil as evil gets. There is no hope or chance of redemption. She was forced to look upon her own flesh and blood and see nothing but a monster. It would be unfair to turn this into a competition of “who had the most devastating family reveal”, but the point I’m trying to make is that Rey and Luke’s journeys are undeniably similar, which serves to further strengthen the connection of Skywalker and Palpatine in these 9 films.
 4.      Conclusion: The Power of Choice
 I feel I must end on the note of choice, because this is how The Rise of Skywalker chooses to end. Despite everything I have mentioned and how much I have grown to love the idea of Rey Palpatine, there is something that I love much more than this: Rey Skywalker. Even just reading it or saying it out loud fills with me an indescribable amount of joy.
To put it bluntly, Rey did not have an easy life. In fact, she probably had one of the most challenging upbringings of any Star Wars protagonist. Yes, Anakin was a slave at a very young age, but he also had friends and a mother who supported him. Luke was even better off with a relatively normal childhood, friends and parental figures who loved him as if he was their own son.
Rey had nothing and no one.
She was forced into a life of struggle and hardship, not by choice, and certainly not by her parents’ choice. Although they loved and cared for her, she would never feel this or know it to be true until much later in life. Rey did not choose where she came from, nor could she choose who she was related to. This is perhaps the most powerful and meaningful message that one could take away from the Sequel Trilogy: You cannot choose the circumstances of your childhood, nor can you choose who you are related to by blood. However, you can choose your destiny, you can choose who you want to be, and you can choose who you consider to be your family.
Rey had all the makings of a villain, but she chose to be a hero. A Sith that chose to be a Jedi. A Palpatine that chose to be a Skywalker. It doesn’t matter where you come from, only where you’re going. At the end of the day, it’s up to you to decide who you want to be. That is a beautiful thing.
Well folks, it took me a long time to get here but we’re finally at the end. I hope this essay was able to make some kind of a comprehensible point. Even if you didn’t agree with anything I said, I hope it was still something that made you think. It was quite a lot of fun to really delve into this topic and explore every microscopic detail. I sure hope it made sense, and if not, I’ll try to do better next time.
Thank you so much for reading! Bye for now.
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Survey #363
(one more that’s a late upload from way earlier in the day, and i yet again don’t feel like updating the answers)
What brings out the worst in you? When I'm very anxious or having a PTSD episode, I can become very snappy and just not a joy to be around. What all did you eat today? This morning I had oatmeal, I had a rice cake as a snack, and lunch was ham and cheese on a tortilla. Some people were really destructive as a child, were you? No, I was a good kid. Who was the last person you were in a car with? My mom. Who was the last person you cried in front of? It was probably Mom. Do you talk about your feelings or hide them? I usually talk about them somewhere, like in surveys if I feel I can't with anyone else. Please be vocal with your feelings. It is so destructive to let them build up. Who was the last person you were with that smelled REALLY good? I'm unsure. Do you know anyone that is gothic? A good number of people, myself included at least in spirit. ;~; I can't really afford good attire, nor do I have the patience for so much makeup maintenance. Have you seen UP? I actually haven't seen the full movie, but I'd like to. How is your mom? Stressed as fuck and tired of everything. What color hair does your mom have? She recently dyed it black. Her hair is growing back totally gray now and she hated it. She's gotten so self-conscious as she's aged. When was the last time you were told you were cute? Idk. Do you feel comfortable getting up and giving speeches? FUCK NO. Have you ever dipped french fries in a frosty? I tried it once and did not get the appeal. Did you have school/class today? No. My school endeavors are done. Do you have any paintings in your room? If so, of what? Yeah, I have my big painting of meerkats grooming above all my 'kat plushies. Have you ever had your photo professionally taken? As a child and by school photographers, anyway. Would you prefer eating jello or pudding? Pudding. After washing your hair, do you put any products in it? No. Last time you ate a salad? Like a week ago when we went to Ichiban for my sister's bday. Do you know how old your house is? No, I don't. Have you ever been described as ”adorable”? Yeah. Have you ever given a lap dance? No. They seem incredibly awkward to me?? Would you accept a boring job if it meant you would make mega bucks? No. I can't do a job I hate for anything. I would be so depressed. Are you a moody person? Yes. What are you listening to? I'm watching Gab Smolders' new episode of Resident Evil 8: Village. I'm deadass watching four different LPers play it, I'm only moderately obsessed lmao. What video game could you waste the most time on? WoW, given it has like a zillion different things to do. Yet I still get bored lmao. What is your favorite condiment? Maybe Ketchup? I think I use that for the most things. What is the worst thing that you have ever done? I don't feel like getting into this. How old were you when your parents gave you the "birds and the bees" talk? They didn't; I learned in my school's sex ed in the 5th grade. Have you ever questioned whether or not you'd benefit from therapy? I have benefited from it. What would you like it to say on your gravestone? Hypothetically, idk. But I'd rather be cremated. Would you ever wear real leather or animal fur? NO. Have you ever completely failed a year of school and had to repeat a grade? No. Have you ever been bitten by an animal that wasn't a cat or a dog? Which? I think my old baby iguana bit me once or twice, not that it was very painful at her young age. I can't recall another animal. What type of literature are you most likely to read? (book, magazine, etc) Books. Do you prefer using candles, wax melts, or incense? Incense. Are you someone who actually doesn't have a Facebook? No, I have one. What kind(s) of Facebook groups are you active in, if any? I'm not really *active* in any; I just observe them and interact via "like"s. I'm actually in a whole lot of groups, though. Do you enjoy any herbal or fruit teas? What kinds? Neither. Do you hear any animals right now? No. What are your thoughts on Avenged Sevenfold? I know and like a few songs, especially "Dear God." Do you like Batman? Yeah, I like his "refuse to murder" ideology. The only thing is I kinda have a bad connection attached to him, because Batman was Jason's thing. Have you ever played fetch with a dog? Yes. Does your house have a fireplace? Yeah actually, but it might be fake? I don't even know lol. Have you ever pet a stingray? No. Have you ever dissected a baby pig in a class at school? Oh my god, no. I literally could never. I did dissect a frog in the 7th grade that wound up to be pregnant, though... I wasn't happy about it, but at the same time it was very interesting. Who is the last baby you held? My niece. Do you like Sunkist? The orange kind is fine, but the STRAWBERRY flavor? Jfc I love that shit. Would you ever consider being a cannibal? UM NO Do you have any scars from an animal? I have a lot of scars on my hands from playing with Roman. I scar extremely easily, so just his little scrapes leave marks. Have you ever seen an Igloo? No. Do you like Korn? Love 'em. How many animals do you have? Really two, but we have three in the house right now. Idk when this dog is going away. Are you more afraid of tornadoes or hurricanes? Tornados. Ever rode in a helicopter? No. Do you like rabbits? Yes, they're adorable. Do you like mushrooms? NO. What was the last movie you cried at? I want to say Logan, but I'm not sure. I watch movies so rarely that I really don't know. Would you rather work for a small or large company? Small. I'd feel more useful. What is the rudest thing a guy has ever done to you? I don't know. Have you ever read the book 13 Reasons Why? Yeah. I thought it was good, but now I don't remember like... anything about it. What did you have for breakfast this morning? I had apple and cinnamon oatmeal. How many times have you read your favorite book? Just once. I don't re-read books. Have you ever been on Omegle? No. Are you still in love with one of your exes? "In love," no. Do you think being born was a mistake? Yeesh, no. Has a relative ever been arrested? My psychotic uncle (by marriage) has been. Was it a serious crime? Quite honestly, I don't remember. I just know he's an angry and dangerous motherfucker. Do you think the Fountain of Youth exists? No. How about in a parallel dimension? Doubtful. Do you believe humans are part of a giant alien experiment? I ponder over the possibility of being a research simulation, kind of like a much advanced version of The Sims, but I honestly doubt it. Have you ever been suicidal? Yes. Was it a passing phase or is it something controlled by medication? Therapy and medication saved me. Is there a holiday you wish no one celebrated? Which is it? Why do you feel that way? Fight me about Christopher Columbus Day. He didn't discover shit. Have you taken any writing classes? How about art? I've taken a writing course in college, and I've taken loads of art classes. What’s your all-time favourite band? How about all-time fave singer? Ozzy Osbourne; Freddie Mercury. What three songs do you want played at your funeral? Why those particular songs? "Like A Woman" by Alice Cooper, "Life Is Beautiful" by Sixx A.M., and "Angels on the Moon" by Thriving Ivory. I just like them and find them suiting. Do you think most mythological creatures exist? No. Have you ever had lice? No. What is one superstition that freaks you out? Why is that? I’m not superstitious. Are either of your parents retired yet and if not, what do they do? No. Dad is a mailman, and while Mom doesn't ~officially~ work yet because she's recovering from intense cancer treatment, she very recently resumed lightly cleaning a church for a small payment. Kinda like a warmup. When did you or do you want to move out of your parents’ house? I wanna move out once I'm in a long-term, stable relationship with someone so we can live together. Me living alone is NOT a good idea. How do you like your current job, or if you’re unemployed, have you been looking for employment? I don't have a job, but when I go to my tattoo appointment, I'm going to ask them if they'd be interested in hiring someone for the front desk. I think it's def something I could do because I love the environment, there's really not that much I need to know (like where the Doritos are, dealing with exact change, answering a dozen unique questions), it's not insanely busy, and the occasional phone call would challenge my anxiety and just be a minor inconvenience to me until I got used to it. My partial hospitalization program really got me wanting to fight back against what gives me anxiety, to truly expose myself to what scares me, while not going totally overboard with it. It was encouraging to hear my therapist there thought it was a magnificent idea for me. I decided I wanted to ask while at the parlor getting work done to show serious interest (like I'm not just some random chick walking in and asking for a job), as well as let the people warm up to me. I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much, but damn am I wishing. I want it so badly. What kind of booze did you last take shots of? I've never taken shots.
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Movie Review: Sonic the Hedgehog (Spoilers)
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Spoiler Warning: I am posting this review the day the movie is first released in the U.K, so if you haven’t yet seen the movie do not read on until you have.
General Reaction:
It's difficult with today's movie going audience to predict how movies like Sonic are going to perform and be received. Especially when the ad campaign did absolutely no favours for this movie other than convince Paramount that Sonic needed a more truthful redesign than what they originally put out.
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Here's the thing. Sonic the Hedgehog to me is trying to be 2020's Detective Pikachu capitalising on that nostalgia of a beloved classic franchise.
However, I do feel that the haters and internet trolls out there are not going to be able to get past the comparisons this movie draws to 2011's Hop, which was a live-action/CGI-hybrid movie starring James Marsden who becomes the companion of a somewhat overbearing CG creature.
But, I encourage all movie goers, including the haters, to go into this with an open mind...particularly if you have any history with Sonic because you will get some enjoyment and walk away afterwards feeling happy overall.
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My personal history with Sonic is slightly less-so than I would like. I played the original 2 SEGA games countless times and did watch some episodes of the earlier animated shows.
Having said that, my main Sonic fandom actually comes from the mid-noughties series Sonic X, which I feel this movie could have adapted but alas. Also I played the Shadow the Hedgehog spinoff game and more recently Smash Bros where I actually won as Sonic recently.
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Now this movie reminds me of those shows and games practically in no way. I mean there is that opening sequence where you see Sonic running around and looping like he does in the SEGA games, I do also feel like James Marsden's character could easily be an older version of Chris, the boy from Sonic X, but aside from that, the gold rings and Robotnik...there's not a lot for the Sonic fans to spot.
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I can't say this is a perfect movie, because it really is not. There are a lot of super speed gags and some of them do stick but some just fall flat and at times feel repetitive.
The worst crime this movie commits in my opinion is stealing Quicksilver's gimmick of speed scenes. By which I mean there are not one but two occasions when time is slowed down to almost a halt and we see Sonic running around still. They even have songs specific for these scenes.
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Also, because I'm not fully aware of every Sonic incarnation, I did not understand why Sonic is effectively The Flash with being able to generate lightning. I mean I understand the laws of physics of generating enough friction can create static but I have never known Sonic to have any electric attacks.
I did like how the static electricity was preserved in his quills when they fell off though. In animation and the games you don’t think about Sonic’s realistic hedgehog qualities such as having quills so it was a nice touch.
I am also aware that Sonic has turned Super Saigen before with the help of the Chaos Emeralds I believe, so the fact we see a similar transformation here is quite good to see for that reason.
In terms of story I do think this is a simple plot that has been done numerous times, Hop is definitely one example that comes to mind, but I feel it’s also a very accessible story for non-Sonic fans.
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I don’t know if Longclaw the Owl is an original character or one from Sonic mythology but I did not really vest much interest in her. Baby Sonic I thought was cute, but I refuse to accept anyone saying he is cuter than Baby Yoda as no one is cuter than Baby Yoda.
On the subject of age, it was good to see them acknowledging Sonic’s age for a change as opposed to just presuming because up until now I did always think he was some sort of teenager but this confirms it. If Baby Sonic is around 5-9 years old then Sonic in present day is late teens which makes sense with his temperament.
The gold rings being used as teleportation devices, I don’t know if they’re meant to be in the games but loved their use here.
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I enjoyed the use of technology in this movie and particularly Robotnik’s commentary on how technology is more reliable than people which ties into his ultimate fate of being stranded alone without another soul on the planet he is sent to which forces him further into insanity.
The fact Sonic’s story is about fitting into society while James Marsden’s character is about figuring out what’s right in front of him are great parallels and do balance each other out rather well.
Also where he ends up with effectively being part of a family as well as a town hero was a nice way to wrap things up.
However, that mid-credits scene showing the arrival of Sonic’s faithful protege Tails to the real world looking for his friend screams for a sequel, especially if this means that more of Sonic’s companions could be introduced in the future like Knuckles, Shadow or even Rouge the Bat.
Characters:
Dr. Robotnik:
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I don’t want to say he is the best character because I feel all four of the main cast members do a great job, but my favourite definitely is Jim Carrey as Robotnik. This is Carrey back on form and there were so many great shades of back when he was at the top of his game in the 90s with work such as Ace Ventura, The Mask and The Grinch.
From his first scene he stole every scene he was in. You could tell that he was taking the role seriously while also having the time of his life with it and this is why, back in the day, he was on such high form.
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He may not have been the overweight bald megalomaniac, at least with the latter two not until the end of the movie, but he was the evil genius and mad scientist and almost every line he delivered he nailed.
I think “rockonnaissance” is going to be the new “joygasm” for him but it worked for The Riddler and it works for Robotnik.
I’m also happy he was nicknamed Eggman in the movie by Sonic because of the shape of his drones, I thought it was fitting. I can’t wait for Sonic to see the new bald version.
Sonic:
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Yes Sonic is second but I said it before, there were times when he was overbearing.
Ben Schwartz by the way does a fantastic job voicing the character, I know he voices Dewey in the new Ducktales series and also for some reason voices BB-8 in the Star Wars sequel trilogy, but this is my favourite role of his voice is so realistic for a wide-eyed and somewhat innocent “alien” hedgehog.
I enjoyed how when he first came to Earth he was this urban legend around Green Hills who spent those 10 years people watching and either making up nicknames for the citizens while also longing to fit in with them but knowing not to.
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Also the movie’s comedy was never as vulgar as Ryan Reynolds or immature as Russell Brand. I think they had one fart joke in the movie but the rest was generic comedy movie material which was hit and miss in comedy.
It was quite touching also that he was so protective of Green Hills and the status quo so much so that when Tom said he was planning on leaving to move to San Francisco, he was so offended and I thought it was going to be that trope of “Oh now they’re going to separate only to discover they need each other later” but instead it was a few digs and then they got over it.
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I am so happy they did redesign the character because the movie’s original look for him was horrendous and did make Cats look reasonable whereas this is more like the Sonic everyone knows and I did not realise he didn’t have his traditional running shoes until Jojo, the niece of Tika Sumpter’s character, replaced them for him.
I will keep saying I want a sequel just because I am interested to see where Sonic’s story takes him next, especially with Tails now on Earth and the potentiality that others could join.
The Wachowskis
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Again I thought James Marsden and Tika Sumpter did very pleasant jobs. This is my favourite James Marsden performance to date. Up until now his roles have been either corny or simply bland for me but here, yes there were a couple of dodgy jokes and moments but overall I thought Tom was a very likeable character and at the very least a driven character.
His wife Maddie, first of all props to the movie writers for having a mixed-race couple front and centre in the movie. But also, Maddie, who is also an accomplished career woman alongside her accomplished career husband, did not weigh Tom down or the story down as simply being “just the wife”.
I also enjoyed Maddie’s sister and niece, Jojo is quite cute and for the little screentime that she has does well with it for a child her age. While Natasha Rothwell continues to grow in my estimations after her fabulous turn in Love, Simon as the very sassy teacher.
Others:
As for the rest of the cast, this was a great who’s who for spotting the great jobbing actors as Lee Majdoub, Neal McDonough, Michael Hogan and Adam Pally all have minor supporting roles that do not go unnoticed.
Meanwhile Colleen Villard (née O'Shaughnessey), who voices Tails in the video games as well as voicing Wasp in The Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes series and Sora in the Digimon franchise, reprises her role as the anthropomorphic fox in an uncredited mid-credits scene. I am hoping she returns for the sequel because it is good to hear her acting again.
Recommendation:
I do see a future for this movie in terms of a franchise. I do not quite see it crossing over with Detective Pikachu as I know there were rumblings of some sort of Super Smash Bros. movie cinematic universe.
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However, if the movie does warrant a sequel, and with a current Rotten Tomatoes score of 64%, considering this seems to be a deciding factor for some cinema goers, I don’t see why not. I am hoping the future of this franchise does see the introductions of Knuckles, Shadow, Rouge and even Amy.
Potentially also spinning off from this franchise, there could be Donkey Kong, Mega Man and maybe even Mario to create that Super Smash Bros. universe.
Overall I rate the movie 8/10, it’s a great movie and definitely has some rewatchability to it.
Having said that I can see where some cinema snobs or even haters may come from as they inevitably target the movie but I encourage everyone not to be taken in by other people’s opinions, not even mine, make up your own minds and see it for yourself.
So that’s my review of Sonic the Hedgehog, what did you guys think? Post your comments and check out more Movie Reviews as well as other posts.
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