#introverted npd culture is

[narcissisticpdcultureis]

introverted npd culture is not knowing how to tell people you do not care about what they’re saying just shut up

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[cluster-b-culture-is]

Cluster B culture is needing a constant break from socializing that it starts to get annoying because everytime you come back you're just like "Oh fuck wowie I still hate everyone" but you can't say that and now you just have to deal with it

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[soft-bugs]

Keep seeing shout-out posts and it's putting me in a positivity mood hehe, so here's one from me. It's a bit all over the place, but 🤷

- Shout out to regressors who've "fallen behind" their peers! Those who don't have their license/permit yet, those with poor grades, those who dropped out of school, those who still live with their parents/guardian(s), those who are unemployed! No matter the reason for it, be it physical health, mental health, financial struggles, whatever the case may be, YOU ARE NOT ALONE!! 💕

- Shout out to regressors struggling with their mental health right now or going through/preparing for seasonal depression right now! WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS!! WE GOT THROUGH IT BEFORE AND WE CAN DO IT AGAIN!! 💙

- Shout out to regressors who lost their childhoods/teenage years to trauma/mental illness and feel like they'll never catch up or get to do fun things again! YOU STILL HAVE TIME!! YOU'RE STILL YOUNG!! YOU HAVE THE REST OF YOUR LIFE TO DO ALL THE THINGS YOU WANNA DO!! IF YOU'RE 40 OR WHATEVER AND WANNA BUILD SAND CASTLES AT THE BEACH DO IT! WHO'S GONNA STOP YOU?! 💚

- Shout out to regressors who are exhausted from working a lot! I SEE YOU! YOU GOT THIS!! GIVE YOURSELF A BREAK EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE YOU DESERVE IT!! YOU ARE NOT A MACHINE!! 💛

- Shout out to introverted, anxious, shy and/or agoraphobic regressors!! Shout out to autistic regressors and those with ADHD! AND those with bipolar disorder, BPD, NPD, OCD, schizophrenia, schizo affective disorder, DID, and any other stigmatized disorder/mental illness/neurodivergence!! YOU'RE NOT ALONE AND PLS TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF! ❤️

- Shout out to incontinent regressors and those who just wear diapers to feel safe/comfy/etc. in their regression!! Y'all are so valid, and one thing that you're wearing shouldn't and doesn't define you as a person!! 💜

- Shout out to therian regressors and pet regressors!! 🤎

- Shout out to all the sweet people in this community! Even if you struggle with having positive thoughts, you still spread positivity and love on here and that makes people feel much less alone and I just love that! The world needs more positivity in it and you add to it! Take care of yourselves, and apply the same positivity to yourselves!! 💞

And lastly, don't forget: LIVE YOUR LIFE!! HAVE FUN!! NO MATTER HOW OLD YOU ARE, WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE, WHAT INTERESTS YOU HAVE!!! SCREW CRINGE CULTURE & HATERS, DO WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY SO LONG AS YOU'RE NOT HURTING ANYONE!!! BE YOURSELF!!! IF SOMEONE DOESN'T LIKE IT, THAT'S THEIR PROBLEM!!!

🖤 🤎 ❤️ 💛 💚 💙 💜 💕 💞

[borderline-culture-is]

(self diagnosed) BPD culture (with NPD traits) is watching your (diagnosed) dad and your half brother from dad's side being REALLY good with people even though they kinda hate them. While you're just there, being awkward and socially anxious.

Even if you hate people, even if you're socially awkward, you're still neither a introvert nor a extrovert, you like alone time but you enjoy being around people.

Anyways you grow up and get a decent job where people are the very least respectful to you and genuinely curious about meeting you and SUDDENLY you start getting the same charisma your dad and brother has.

Idk why this happened, it was so sudden, like a switch in my brain.

And yes I'm masking. But also I do feel more confident than before.

- 🍬🐈‍⬛ (also thanks to whoever sent the ask answering me spiraling over the media I like! (⁠•⁠ө⁠•⁠)⁠♡ Rationally I know I can like stuff even if it's problematic, but emotionally it's that whole mess!)

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[lucy-the-cat]

Maven Calore and Mental Illness / Disability

[this was a response to @lilyharvord's ask of what diagnoses Maven has that ballooned into an over 3k thesis oops. please reblog]

Content Warning: BPD, narcissism, sociopathy/psychopathy/ASPD, brief mentions of SA, abuse, discussions of trauma and ableism

As someone preparing to study in this field, I'd say definitely a Cluster B personality disorder. They're defined by symptoms appearing in negative impacts on other people, and while the most common diagnosis is Unspecified Cluster B, I'll take a stab at it. There are four types within this cluster: Borderline, Histrionic, Narcissistic, and Anti Social. Histrionic is being reevaluated in the DSM-5, but it is the one disorder I think he shows no traits for, so that's kinda irrelevant lol

The predominant disorder he exhibits seems to be Anti Social, a condition defined by habitual lies, backstabbing, cruelty, and law breaking without remorse, especially in regards to using others to do so. There are two cluster patterns within this disorder, that of the sociopath, and that of the psychopath. These terms were created long before the diagnosis of ASPD was created, but are useful for delineating a distinction given their pop culture connotations. There are many differences, but the defining one is this: while psychopaths are born, sociopaths are made. They tend to be more impulsive, more prone to lashing out, and have a greater ability to empathize than psychopaths. And Maven is quite impulsive, from his offer to save Mare in the dungeons, to his decision to murder an infant, to taking Mare captive at the expense of his brother's capture. ASPD, like all personality disorders, is a spectrum, and while the defining diagnostic criteria are a lack of empathy and remorse, those criteria are not absolute. Those on the lower end, like sociopaths, can feel some degree of empathy and remorse, as Maven does around Mare. You'll also hear that they don't love in a neurotypical fashion, forming obsessions around their targets of affection.

It is treatable generally only if the patient has other issues that urge them to seek and accept help, which many would otherwise reject. It's not uncommon for ASPD patients to sit in therapy while refusing to talk to the professional. There is, however, a treatment called "cognitive empathy", wherein the patient is trained to manually go through the process of empathy and remorse to moderate success. This point is moot because the only treatment suggested by the narrative is very violent and traumatic, crushed before he can even emotionally process the idea, and his understandably muted reaction to "hey you could've had another lobotomy to try to turn you back into a person you no longer identify with" is held as proof that's he's completely unfixable but that's an can of ableism worms for another post

Back to diagnosis, all ASPDers also have NPD, or Narcisstic Personality Disorder, which manifests in four types: Grandiose, Covert, Vulnerable and Communal. All involve an outer shell, a persona that is better than other people, but they manifest in different ways. They are divided into introverted and extroverted presentations, with Grandiose and Communal being extroverted and Covert and Vulnerable being introverted. Grandiose is your classic narcissist: their shell is that of a god, a genius, a virtuoso that blesses the room with their presence. They are pathological liars who will boast non-existent accomplishments to disguise their (most likely) mediocrity. Maven may be a liar, but he does not boast. His lies are calculated, clever, meant to disguise instead of further delusion. Communal Narcissists express their superiority through charity, moral goodness their shield against all insecurity. Maven's charity has always been self-consciously to further his own power, a self-awareness communal narcissists by definition lack. Vulnerable Narcissists, contrary to those above, tend to not advertise their symptoms, as they originate in a belief that their pain is more meaningful, more sympathetic, more heart-wrenching than anyone else's. Mare actually expressed a lot of symptoms of this in Glass Sword, and is the monster she feared becoming through her arc. If Maven were a vulnerable narcissist, he would've lashed out at Mare for belittling his trauma instead of accepting Mare's judgement. Maven doesn't like to define himself by his trauma because it makes him feel powerless, his agency taken away by forces beyond his control. He would rather think of himself as a monster than a victim.

That leaves Covert Narcissism, defined by an introverted form of Grandiose Narcissism. They think they deserve much better than the average person, crave status and elevation, but do so quietly, simmering in their own frustration of their lack of recognition. And Maven DOES think he's better than you: he just won't say it out loud. He doesn't advertise his cold calculation, his master plans, only sharing with a select few (Mare, mostly).

The final disorder I'd like to explore is Borderline Personality Disorder, characterized by emotional instability, desperate attempts to avoid rejection and abandonment, and fierce anger at those who do them wrong, whether those slights be real or imagined. A lot of Borderlines identify with Maven, thinking of themselves as monsters for the horrible things they often do out of fear and anger. It's worth noting that fierce anger is a symptom of all Cluster B disorders, as they are deeply insecure and a threat to their outer shells is a threat to their entire being. While I think the ASPD and NPD coding is intentional, I highly doubt the BPD elements are, and most Borderlines are quite upset that Maven didn't get a redemption arc. BPD IS the most treatable of the Cluster B disorders, and I highly suggest those writing redemption arcs lean on that coding as I often do. There's a tension between Victoria's clear intent to vindicate victims of narcissistic and anti-social abuse and the judgement Borderlines see themselves facing on a daily basis. That's why I don't like how heavily Maven's condemnation relies on the horrible things he's done rather than lack of self-awareness and rejection of REASONABLE treatments for his own monsterhood and misery. Mare doesn't have to forgive him. She doesn't have to absolve him. But it's worth noting that Borderlines will do horrible, often abusive things, to the people close to them and still find treatment and redemption in support circles away from the people they've hurt and abused. Not all Borderlines are treatable: there are some who express externalized symptoms, or are have co-morbid narcissism that prevent them from internal self awareness. This is expressed somewhat in the text, but not (in my opinion) to a satisfactory degree. You kind of have to be more direct and nuanced on subjects like this, especially for a younger audience, because all people, including neurodivergents, have some nugget of internalized ableism born from the belief we have complete control over our own actions because the alternative is existentially hard to deal with. There's also a practical reason for ableism that suggests we'll never truly get rid of it in that the mind is the decision-making organ, and decisions have consequences that affect other people and society at large. We should help who can be helped, because that is a) compassionate, and b) more productive for society as a whole. But it's a waste of finite resources to argue with those who stubbornly insist there is nothing wrong with them, and that is, on some level, a form of ableism. It's not their fault their brain is wired in a way that makes them unable to reckon their ego with the need for change, but it's emotionally draining to live with such people. Moral judgement of them is a bit of a necessity to summon the emotion needed to cut them from your life. It also prevents lashing in, the self doubt and internal hatred that can come from internalizing abuse. Think of how Mare decides that she is selfish and a coward for not giving in to Maven's murderous attempts to bully her into coming back to him.

There's also two political angles to this, in that Maven's a white guy, Mare's a brown girl, and the brand can kinda be seen as an SA metaphor? Not exclusively, it's more a generalized act of severe abuse, but the coding's definitely there in that it's done for possession and control of a subject of desire. A lot of abuse and SA by white men (or just men in general) to POC women (or women in general) tends to not get justice, and the burden is often put on women to quietly deal with it or actively try to "fix" their abusers. I'm not advocating for that. I think VA's motivation for doubling down on the insistence that Maven is un-fixable stems from an opposition to this norm, which she's said in interviews she got a lot of requests for Mare to do. An admirable theme, one I found catharsis in on first reading, but it unintentionally raises a question on BPD and men.

Men are far less likely to be diagnosed with BPD, in part because the presentation tends to be different, but also because of our own biases. To paraphrase the book Stop Walking on Eggshells, if a woman discovers her partner is cheating is on her, kills the cheating parties, then herself, psychoanalysts will often conclude she had BPD. If a man does the same thing, he will often be dismissed as just an abuser, with little regard paid to his suicide afterwards. This stems from our perception of men as more violent and dangerous, which is often true, but can be disproportionately amplified, as can be seen with POC men, especially black men. There's a tendency for negative stereotypes about dominant power groups to trickle down to overlapping, but far more vulnerable groups. And mentally ill men ARE a more vulnerable group than neurotypical men, and the burden falling on women to take care of them is generally a response to their lack of resources and societal acceptance of their vulnerability. I don't think you can properly reject the idea of women having to "fix" their current or former partners without tackling the root, and it speaks to a wider contradiction that while the series understands systemic issues and dismantling them in the context of political power, it individualizes mental illness and poses the addressing thereof as philosophical and a matter of personal responsibility. This is true to some extent: the tug between genes and environment is a prominent and ultimately philosophic debate in psychology, and often introduced as early as 101 classes. And, as we've discussed, you cannot improve yourself if you abdicate agency for all your actions and resign yourself to your fate. But there's a problem with this approach, in that the brain is not often designed to handle this process without systemic structures to support it. This is why we have therapy, this is why we have medication, and the lack of this presence is a bit disappointing. Montfort is presented as a beacon, an imperfect beacon, of systemic justice and hope, and the modern-ish, though dystopian setting somewhat resolves the fantasy problem of healing often being medieval or magical. Characters are forced to deal with their trauma alone, and while this lessens throughout the series as Mare learns to open up, there's a level to which she needs a therapist to help her to properly process what she's been through. She never talks about her time as a prisoner besides what is useful to the cause, and processes Maven's misguided attempts to seek help from her as not mattering because she can't personally fix him. It is a response to protect herself that should not be dismissed, but deconstructed, as she sees the worst aspects of herself in him. It would enrich her arc to accept those parts of herself non-judgmentally without enabling them, which she does somewhat in the text without truly tackling the root of it. Maven must die, just not by her hand, because that will corrupt her beyond repair. He is unfixable because he is morally condemned, not because his ego can't handle the concept of change.

A neutral party, such as Davidson, would be the best avenue to truly offer him a chance he can either accept or reject. I don't think Cal is a great option to try to help Maven, as while, as a man, he doesn't have the political baggage of gender roles, he is still a victim of Maven's abuse and he has a tendency to split Maven into either a monster, or a brother stolen from him. This is likely a result of Maven's turn being so sudden for him, but it has an air of . . . I don't wanna say condescension, but something adjacent to it. It's an inability to truly understand Maven as a person who still exists, who could still use the comfort and validation of someone who cares enough to confront what he truly is. That's part of why he prefers Mare: she gives him agency over his actions, forces him to confront what he is, and while that is far from kind or healthy, it is a form of comfort by reinforcing the role he has chosen for himself. In a way, Mare DOES enable him by accepting his framing of himself, even as she rejects his framing of her and Cal. I would understand the objection that this requires an emotional maturity from both of them that they don't owe him, which is why I abdicate the responsibility to Davidson as a detached adult with plenty of political cause to offer Maven help in exchange for abdication.

I also REALLY don't like how the decision to execute Maven was handled. It's a mock trial where Cal is treated as having no choice but to go through with it, because otherwise he will seem weak to his allies. Maven's rejection of the offer to spare his life is treated as the final nail in the coffin of his damnation to execution, but, like . . . he had no reason to accept it? It's bad foreshadowing to Cal's emotional turmoil. Because, at the core . . . Cal doesn't HAVE to execute him. He can give him a proper trial. He can give him the option of not guilty by reason of insanity. This option can still be rejected by Maven, but like, imagine how much more emotionally powerful and resonant it would be for Cal to go, what happened to you wasn't right. I know you're a monster, but you still deserve justice and mercy. Maybe you'll still die. Maybe you can't be healed. But you deserve a chance. Because execution of the mentally ill is a real problem. There's a reason we have not guilty by reason of insanity, and if the philosophical questions raised by Maven's trauma are meant to have any meaning, this should at least be a moral quandary. There are political reasons to execute Maven: it might be a necessity for securing Cal's reign, but that has nothing to do with his crimes or whether he deserved it. Maven can be offered abdication of all claims in exchange for a fair trial after he is captured, which he can still reject out of a pride but would be an offer that makes sense and show Cal had done all he could. Without this rejection, there's no reason Montfort shouldn't execute Cal, Evangeline, and Ptolemus on the same political basis. I know this was likely done because grief for the misconception you often have of your abuser can be hard to face, but in doing so, the narrative makes Maven's execution all about Cal, and I think that could've be handled with more grace and nuance.

There's also the newblood whisper thing, where Cal is treated by Mare and Julian as naive for trying at all, rather than naive for looking for a quick fix solution. Any treatment is going to take a long time, with incremental improvement, and is going to involve Maven's consent and cooperation, which you will never get if you start mentioning the word "whisper." Maven will not be able to be released to the general public, and likely will not for a long time, but that should be evaluated as a cost benefit analysis of dubious morality rather than an impossibility.

Looping back to Borderline Personality Disorder, I would still characterize him as having Borderline traits rather than a pure expression of the disorder. The main reason is the lack of splitting, a categorization of people as devils and angels with no in between. Borderlines in general have a hard time with moderation, which makes them difficult to please even with narratives that sympathize with them. This is not absolute, as many are in therapy and working on this symptom, but it would be dishonest not to include. It's also part of the reason I don't entirely trust this fandom to handle this discussion with maturity. Two examples: a) a user once proclaimed Maven as bad bi representation because he was "bat-shit crazy", which is not . . . tasteful and is pretty ableist on the face of it, but it's the kind of ableism that's understandable and would likely be resolved with a thirty minute patient conversation. Maven stans did not take this route, calling OP neurotypical when they weren't, and generally being very hateful towards a minor about their opinion on a fictional character. A lot of neurodivergent folks will performatively distance themselves from less stable and more volatile members of their community in an attempt to protect themselves from being characterized in a similar way. It's also worth noting that OP's neurodivergence was a mood disorder, which may have contributed to the extreme nature of the post and thus should have given those concerned with ableism a reason to extend understanding and forgiveness. b) A year or so ago VA was bombarded with asks declaring Maven's death ableist and problematic for VERY shaky reasons, including one user who insisted it promoted stigma against schizophrenia, which, uh, no. Just no. I'm not dignifying that with an explanation. VA responded to these accusations by simultaneously claiming that she wrote Maven the way she did to represent how there are people we can't save, but that she doesn't think he's un-savable actually what are you talking about. I abruptly stabbed myself in the chest forty two times and died.

Anyway, this was supposed to half an essay and turned into a thesis oops

Tl;DR: Maven is ASPD, specifically a sociopath, NPD, specifically a Covert Narcissist, and has BPD tendencies. I had a long ramble about how this is handled in the narrative that I will not summarize because condensing it leaves me open to misinterpretation. Do not, under any circumstance, spam this at VA. If you do, I will skin you, sell your organs on the black market, turn your hair into a wig and cackle on a mountaintop covered in blood. Have a nice day, and please reblog!

[angelsdialogue]

There are six different types of abuse. Physical, sexual, verbal, psychological, financial, and cultural abuse. “Narcissistic abuse”, as you can see, is not one of them for good reason. Narcissism is a personality disorder, not a way to abuse someone, yes narcissists can and do abuse people a lot of time because of their disorder. However, the same can be said for anyone with any neurodiversity but you don’t see people going around screaming about ADHD abuse.

Neurotypicals with average levels of empathy can and do abuse people, so why aren’t you filling the “empath” tag with a bunch of shit about how their all horrible. A symptom of narcissism is social isolation, are you gonna go post about the “proper” way to handle an introvert under the assumption that they are just itching to emotionally torture you.

And I swear if I see another person armchair diagnose someone with NPD just because they did something they don’t like I’m going to scream. Where’s your psychology degree? And if you have one I’d like to know why you think is appropriate to try to diagnose some you’ve never treated. NPD is no different from any other disorder. There’s no such thing as narcissistic abuse, there is only abuse.

[the-courage-to-heal]

The Many Faces of Narcissism

Popular culture has long relied on narcissistic traits to sketch problematic characters in sharp relief, from Dorian Gray to Don Draper. Gaston from Disney's Beauty and the Beast presents a silly but fairly apt model of grandiosity, probably the most recognizable feature of people high in narcissism and those with NPD. That brawny braggart sings, "As a specimen, yes, I'm intimidating!...As you see, I've got biceps to spare!...I'm especially good at expectorating!...And every last inch of me's covered in hair." Other narcissists may indeed perceive themselves as being in the top .1 percent in terms of talent, appearance, success, or all of the above. But it's a mistake to assume that all narcissists will be such obvious preeners. "Not all narcissists care about looks or fame or money," Malkin says. "If you focus too much on the stereotype, you'll miss red flags that have nothing to do with vanity or greed." For example, he suggests, some narcissists can be of the "communal" variety and actually devote their lives to helping others. They might even agree with such statements as "I'm the most helpful person I know," or "I will be known for the good deeds I have done." "Everyone has met grandiosely altruistic martyrs, self-sacrificing to the point where you can't stand to be in the room with them," Malkin says. And there are highly introverted, or "vulnerable," narcissists. These individuals feel they are more temperamentally sensitive than others. They react poorly to even gentle criticism and need constant reassurance. The way they feel special might actually be negative: They may see themselves as the ugliest person at the party or feel like a misunderstood genius in a world that refuses to recognize their gifts. What all subtypes of narcissist have in common, Malkin says, is "self-enhancement." Their thoughts, behaviors, and statements set them apart from others, and this feeling of distinction soothes them, because they're otherwise struggling with an unstable sense of self. Narcissists feel superior to others, Brummelman says, but they are not necessarily satisfied with themselves as a person.

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[narcissisticpdcultureis]

Introvert npd culture is despising extroverts like please just SHUT UP!!! NOBODY CARES ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY!!!! IF YOU DONT GIVE ME SPECIAL ATTENTION THEN I WONT GIVE YOU ATTENTION IF YOU KEEP BLATHERING ON THEN BROTHER I WILL NOT LISTEN

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[cluster-b-culture-is]

questioning npd culture is being usually introverted but becoming so fucking social to bask in the glory of praise for the slightest thing (and short circuiting bc you're not used to it)

[violentviolette]

exactly! and once u break them down its so blatant that they aren't actually describing anything thats like, an actual symptom. It's literally just all "introvert/extrovert" or "good/bad" dichotomies or something more akin to an alignment chart than any kind of actual diagnostic criteria

like the npd ones kill me its LITERALLY introvert/extrovert and its like how is that useful?? what does that do in helping us understand npd or heal from abuse or learn healthy self validation????

its so reductive and does nothing to help us understand why we behave the way we do or give us insight into the disordered mindset we've internalized. It just "some of u are loud and obnoxious and some of u are quiet and anxious" like okay??? so is all of humanity??? how is this in any way exclusive to or specific of npd???

Its literally just a catchy moniker u can put on a button or on ur carrd like nerd culture and its so god damn stupid to me

literal question for everyone who wants cluster b subtypes to be a thing so badly

why?

what do u gain? are different presentations requiring different treatment? why? what variation is so concrete and seperate that it requires or benefits from isolating it? why? how does isolating those traits help to diminish their harm? are they even causing harm? what symptoms are made easier to treat and alleviate by isolating them in this way? what unique treatment do they require? how does an individual benefit from isolating those traits? are those traits actually unhealthy and in need of isolated specialized treatment in the first place?

literally what is the point other than the commodification of ur mental illness like its a fucking fandom?

and if the answer is ~validation~ then get the fuck out. literally there is no helping u if *thats* what ur seeking from mental illness treatment because it is utterly fucking useless

u are chugging salt water to cure ur dehydration and the rest of us would prefer not to watch u shit urself to death on the way out

[narcissisticpdcultureis]

Introverted npd culture or npd culture + neurodivergency is The Outsider by MARINA

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[narcissisticpdcultureis]

(Questioning) npd culture is Yk what? People who say that I'm mischaracterizing cheerful/kind/sweet characters by headcanoning them as narcissists are ableist. Nice people can have npd. (And this is specifically about Daisuke from mouthwashing, I've met many ppl who were pissed off at me headcanoning him as a npd haver because it contradicts their own headcanons. I'm sorry but first of all I don't care and secondly if you claim to support people with stigmatized disorders but then refuse to acknowledge the fact that narcissists don't need to be the cold and introverted stereotype to have npd then fuck you) -Eterosis

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[narcissisticpdcultureis]

Questioning NPD and autism culture is telling your therapist about how you automatically just dislike people, and how you tend to wax and wane with friendships because you'll get super invested in someone and then completely lose all interest in them because they're suddenly just reallly annoying to you, and talking about how despite all of this you have a carefully constructed complex that dictates how you must act to come off as correct and charismatic to everybody (even the people you hate)... and then your therapist being like "yeah autism can cause weird affect and low tolerance for people, and being an introvert can cause that rapidly shifting perception of people."

Like. I hate to disagree with my therapist, but I don't think that like shifting to sudden dislike for people is characteristic of introverts. She's been saying what I think is a PD is actually just autism (plus or minus C-PTSD symptoms), but every time she only cites her experience with clients with BPD (which. I have also experienced symptoms of. So that doesn't even fully work). And then now when I really dig into some of those symptoms, she seems to be misinterpreting what I mean. She talked about social unawareness in autism, after I said I am generally very charismatic and correct because I am very good at reading the room. She talked about that to tell me that if I unintentionally offend someone (since I talked about shifting my opinions based on if people disagree with me or not) I can apologize for unintended offense as some people with autism do when they misread social situations. Except that's not what I was talking about and I don't relate to those circumstances (and usually when people get offended it's because I didn't articulate my perspective correctly or they didn't properly state their boundaries/they have triggers I didn't know about).

Idk. She straight up said in a past session that I exhibit some antisocial traits, and I was like, "yeah ASPD is a PD." And she was like "well I didn't mean it as relating to the PD. I meant it as a description of a set of symptoms that can present in a lot of different disorders." So ??????? I don't. Know. If she fully knows how cluster Bs outside of BPD typically present. Because every single time she elaborates on why she doesn't think I have a PD, she talks about BPD. And that is making me question her input when she says my PD-like symptoms are purely autism and trauma responses.

But yk, I'm not a therapist, so what do I know...

- 💚🫀💜

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[narcissisticpdcultureis]

Npd culture is loving your insecure friends more than the rest of them because they compliment and praise you extra often, especially when you reassure them! (It's unfortunate that they usually have social anxiety and are introverted, I wish I could carry them around with me 24/7.)

- 🌧️hydra

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[narcissisticpdcultureis]

npd + extroversion culture is hating being around introverts because if they don't want to talk then where will you supply your ego boosts from?

npd + extroversion culture is hating the stereotypes of "extroverts adopt introverts" "extroverts don't understand boundaries" and "extroverts are always happy and loud" because you don't personally relate to them which makes everyone who does even more worthless than they were before because you're the standard and--

-🌊🦇

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