#mcu negativity

[imposterogers]

I think there's a lot of factors that has led to the overall downfall of the mcu, from consumer fatigue to the shoddy cgi ununionized vfx workers were forced to grind out to incohesive plotlines, but the one that I think alienated the fans the most was the writing -- specifically by people who genuinely disliked the source material characters and stories they were writing about. how many times can you watch yet another one of your favorites be ruined? do something so wildly out of character it hurts? there was a shift post infinity war. to put fan servicing ahead of good writing. to stuff everything with cameos. make gif & memeable scenes. to treat characters like playing dolls -- where nothing felt like them except their face. sad tbh

[gloriousburden]

I miss when it was still exciting to go see a marvel movie. Now, I just feel dread every time something is announced or is in the theaters. it seems like the more possibilities they get (such as introducing new characters, new storylines, the whole multiverse bullshit) the movies become more garbage. It really was better when the movies were just about the Avengers versus Loki. The Avengers versus new bad guy. The Avengers versus each other. Asgardian shenanigans. Captain America versus Hydra shenanigans. Black Panther. Doctor Strange. GOTG even though I’m not necessarily a huge fan.

Honestly, I can’t even remember liking any of the movies/series that came out… and I saw most of them. The MCU is so over and it’s so saddening to me. It used to be so much fun. Some of the What If episodes were kind of fun, but everything else… 😞 I wish the Avengers could’ve been forever. Endgame is the evil that keeps on giving. It never stopped.

Obviously, the MCU has always had its mistakes and flops. But… it wasn’t every single project back to back. Possibly the only thing that’s remained consistent is their love of whitewashing, butchering, and nerfing characters. None of that changed.

[foundations-of-the-slay]

Not saying I liked Sebastian Stan before it was cool but I did have a picture of him glued into my 7th grade time capsule that I opened recently

[tonyskittymug]

I know I'm nitpicking but I still don't know why the mcu is giving reed a mustache

[bereft-of-frogs]

You guys made me do math.

Ok but taking 27 as the minimum cast size, since they said they weren't actually finished announcing cast members, the maximum amount of character screentime would be...

...6.7 minutes by the longest MCU film (Endgame)

...8.9 minutes by the longest superhero film I could find, Zach Snyder's cut of Justice League

...16.6 minutes by the infamously long Satantango, which I still haven't seen but it's on my list

...7.7 minutes by my personal favorite infamously long film (Seven Samurai) (standalone at least, because I wasn't counting LotR) (it would be 9.2 for Return of the King's Extended edition)

...32.3 minutes for the longest film on the wikipedia entry for 'longest films' (Resan) (the cinematic list, not the experimental. the longest experimental film is 35 days long. so that was...an outlier and shall not be counted)

...and by the average blockbuster length, 5.3 minutes.

Obviously, some characters will be mains and some will be cameos, I don't expect that every character will be given equal amounts of screentime. But that makes the announcement style feel even more skeevy, like they're trying to reel in all these fans by acting like their faves will have real parts to play, when they're probably just going to show up, say something quippy, and exit. This is also not counting any like, setting establishing shots. And they said there would still be more to announce.

What a time.

[sourpatchgrapes]

P.s This my page, I get to negative as shit if I want to, any comment or reply trying to argue with me about this is getting you blocked.

Love how everyone is excited about the Thor and Loki hug as if the doomsdays movie isn't bein handled by the Russo brothers. The same people who killed off Loki and said they didn't like him😭

[goodoldfashionedengineer]

There are zero reasons why Bruce's backstory could have never been acknowledged in the mcu. Especially after the Moon Knight adaptation.

Not one throwaway sentence. Heck, in Thor Ragnarok, Waititi didn't even read the comics and there's a deleted scene in which Bruce explains to Thor that he is upset that he couldn't be there for his father's death because he was obsessing over his experiments. It would have removed a significant part of his entire being.

And in the first episode of She-Hulk, they implied that he has DID. And then they never did anything with it ever again. And yes, it's about Jen in this series. But also, she had interactions with Emil and Matt. So yeah, another excuse gone.

I entirely refuse to believe that Rebecca is alive.

I somehow hope that the mcu stays as far away from the character as possible, I don't want them to do anything with Skaar. I don't want a Planet Hulk movie. They would butcher both and the tags would be filled with mcu stuff that the hulk fanbase does not care about.

[awbarnes-no]

I know this is a hot take . . . but I'm getting more and more angry at how the MCU treats it's female characters, but today i'm talking about natasha. I haven't finished all of season 2 of What If . . . but I can see that some characters really didn't get as much screentime and take a WILD GUESS . . . Nat is one of them. Come on Marvel. She's a badass with awesome stories of her own. She's so much more than . . . whatever the hell you guys are putting out.

[maryasmorevna]

rdj coming back to mcu and playing victor von doom of all villains is as pathetic as it's tragic

[aurorawest]

Plz i need someone to tell me im overreacting abt the loki finale. I haven't been this mad since this movie i saw five years ago in November.

I mean, idk exactly how you're reacting. It's normal to be mad about a piece of fiction where you really don't like the ending or choices that were made. Like, that is a completely normal thing, anon. I was mad at LOST for years (I still kind of am, ngl). I definitely have some anger toward the MCU, though it's outweighed by the grief I feel for what I see as its truly stellar implosion. So like, if you're just feeling angry, that's normal.

If you're harassing other fans, or trying to change their minds when they've given no indication that they're up for debate about this, or going on public rants about how stupid people are for liking it (public as in, tagging it to make sure fans see it), that's an overreaction. If you're losing sleep or getting so upset about it that it's affecting your day-to-day functioning, that's overreacting. Or even like, thinking about it so constantly that you're stuck in a semi-permanent enraged state. If you're doing that stuff, you should stop! It's not healthy for YOU, first and foremost.

[woulddieforloki]

The people already talking shit on S2 because Sylvie is working in a McDonald’s, saying that doesn’t make sense and that is ruining more parts of Loki because ‘a Norse God wouldn’t work there’ are so fucking boring, thank God they aren’t involved in the show. I hope to see Sylvie happily flipping her burgers and punching the ice cream machine.

"a NoRsE gOd WoUlDnT dO tHaT" well lucky for them, Sylvie doesn't remember anything about being a Norse god! she is but a smol bundle of rage and desperation who wanted a snack and found a job instead, and I for one respect our minimum wage employee Sylvie 🙏

[confusedgoldenflower]

https://youtu.be/wM7pbzxEJ1g?si=c3CSCoOEABzvwF-D the “and then, and then, and then,” explains they Thor 3 and probably 4 (haven’t harmed myself by watching it) suckkkkkkk. “Hela hits them and then they get sent to garbage place and then thor gets hurt lmao and drinking makes you cool and is funny and then finds Loki and then thor fights hulk and then they escape and then thor harms Loki for no reason and then they go through the anus—hehe haha I’m so funny and totally haven’t been stuck in the fifth grade—and then they get back home and then fight and theres dick imagery and then everything blows up and then a joke is made because I’m incompetent and it doesn’t make any sense why I was hired and PAID to make SHITTY FAN movies”

[philosopherking1887]

I want Marvel movies to be as good as the first "Avengers" movie, but alas, they've almost universally sucked since 2016.

"You guys just hate because you want every marvel movie to be Endgame, movies cant all be that good"

Fool,

I hated Endgame too

[tonyskittymug]

i think the thing about brave new world that bothered me the most was that dennis dunphy was wasted on a rando character that was both forgettable and disposable

[sawthefaeriequeen]

Still fricking bitter over Ant Man.

[piepeloe]

Yeah, that entire scene made me uneasy and not just for that.

Alexei's comic relief, but not that silly. Walker is an ass, but competent; he'd know what 'the buttons' did after a year. And Ghost had like, one line? Not to mention that despite having made TWS and CW, they have some really weird views on Bucky.

Plus, since they probably weren't expecting them to be popular, I'm pretty sure they'll be considered an afterthought. They're going to mess up this team so badly. Most likely by making them the bad guys in this unnecessary drama.

Because yeah, I can sort of see Sam not being wild about Val's involvement and he might worry if he knows who/what Bob is. But to sue them over the name? That's dumb. It's more likely he and Bucky would just combine the teams.

Unless they come up with a really convincing reason for this (doubtful), it just feels like a way for them to make Doomsday feel like Infinity War.

It's honestly impressive how badly the Russos have already fucked up the Avengers' characterization (yet again) and got the fandom to turn on each other like a pack of rabid dogs.

The whole "suing over the Avengers name" thing is so stupid and contrived and the more sambucky-divorce-era discourse I have to slog through every time I venture into the tags the more annoyed I get. As if Sam or Bucky (or even the other Avengers except maybe Alexei) would give a shit what their teams were called. Why would they have any attachment to that name? The previous Avengers were barely a team in the first place. Half of them tried to arrest the other half and forced them to go on the run!

All Sam and Bucky care about is helping people. They wouldn't buy into the Avengers name propaganda and neither should you.