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Pathfinder Iconics Comparison Part 2: Core Classes

[Part 1: Classes with Different Iconics] [Part 3: The Remaining PF2 Classes] [Part 4: Classes Who Got Demoted] [Part 5: Prestige Classes] [Part 6: Who's left?]

The lineup of Core classes didn't change between PF1 and PF2, except that the Alchemist was promoted to Core in PF2. We've already looked at Damiel and Fumbus, the Iconic Alchemists, so let's take a look at the remaining Core classes.

In the lead-up to the launch of Pathfinder 2nd Edition, artist Wayne Reynolds did a series called Iconic Evolution with Erik Mona. He talked about his changing approach to the artwork, and the updates that he made to these characters' designs to reflect the new design philosophy of PF2. I'll be parroting bits of this throughout the post that I find the most interesting.

Note: most of these character designs predate the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game. Starting with Valeros, Seoni, Kyra and Merisiel, these characters were presented as pre-generated characters for the Pathfinder product line when it was a series of adventures for Dungeons & Dragons 3.5. Maybe at some point I'll talk about the family tree of D&D/PFRPG since it's a very interesting topic, but it's another story for another day.

Barbarian

Amiri (she/her, Human [Kellid] PF1 vs. PF2)

Amiri's design changed very little. While some of the characters have covered up more, Amiri is still showing a lot of midriff since her scars are so important to her character. Her bastard sword (officially called the Ginormous Sword, not a joke) was taken from a frost giant.

Amiri was featured in Pathfinder: Kingmaker, the CRPG developed by OwlCat Games.

Bard

Lem (he/him, Halfling, PF1 vs. PF2)

Most of the Core Iconics are human, but there is one each of the non-human ancestries. Lem is the token Halfling. He's a member of the Pathfinder Society, and the one who inspired Ezren to join (although he refused to sponsor him). His flute is made of silver, so he can use it as a weapon against monsters that are vulnerable to silver. His design didn't change much between the two editions, but he does look a little bit older, perhaps wiser.

Wayne's design here seems to hearken back to his design for the D&D 3rd edition iconic Bard, Gimble.

There are a few clear differences. Gimble is a gnome, for one. He's got a beard, plays a lute instead of a flute, and seems to favour a crossbow instead of a dagger, but he definitely has whispers of being a proto-Lem.

Champion (Paladin)

Seelah (she/her, Human [Garundi], PF1 vs. PF2)

The class was called "Paladin" in PF1 and was restricted to being Lawful Good. In PF2, the class is now called "Champion" and has been expanded to allow characters of any Good alignment, with only the Lawful Good ones being named "Paladins" (the Neutral Good Champions are named "Redeemers" and the Chaotic Good Champions are named "Liberators"). There are also Evil Champions, but that will have to wait until later.

In her PF1 design, Seelah is carrying a helmet. When she was a young street urchin, she stole that helmet from a Paladin, an act which directly led to that Paladin's death. Stricken with grief, Seelah turned to the Paladins, who raised her into a holy knight.

Like Amiri, Seelah was featured in an OwlCat CRPG, this time Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous.

Cleric

Kyra (she/her, Human [Keleshite], PF1 vs. PF2)

Kyra exemplifies something that I really enjoy about PF2 which is increased colour saturation. A lot of the PF1 illustrations are kind of muddy and washed-out, but for the most part in PF2 they're bright and vibrant. Kyra's blue and yellow outfit really pops.

Kyra is married to the Iconic Rogue, Merisiel (Kyra x Merisiel appreciation post coming soon).

Druid

Lini & Droogami (she/her, Gnome, PF1 vs. PF2)

Lini is the second of our four token non-humans, this time representing the gnomes. With PF2, they made an effort to separate themselves from their D&D roots and do something unique with the gnomes. They tried to make gnome designs cleave closer to their fey origins than they had previously, and I think that comes across in Lini's design. The quiver on her hip carries twigs, which she collects from every forest she visits.

Fighter

Valeros (he/him, Human [Chelaxian], PF1 vs. PF2)

Like Kyra, Valeros is looking much bolder and brighter. He's now got a shield, since shields gained increased mechanical interest in PF2. Also notice the tankard hanging from his belt. Valeros is a worshipper of Cayden Cailean, the Accidental god of ale, bravery, freedom and wine.

Valeros was the first Iconic character ever designed. Along with Seoni, Kyra and Merisiel, he appeared in D1: Crown of the Kobold King.

Monk

Sajan (he/him, Human [Vudrani], PF1 vs. PF2)

Like I said earlier, a lot of the Iconics covered up more in the transition from PF1 to PF2, and Sajan is no exception. I enjoy Sajan's PF2 iteration more not just because the blue of his clothes pops more, but it's also just such a more dynamic pose. I never particularly liked his A-pose key art, I don't feel it does a good job of showing what a Monk actually is.

Ranger

Harsk (he/him, Dwarf, PF1 vs. PF2)

The increased colour saturation really did wonders for Harsk, making his beard and tartan sash really stand out. The crossbow was his main weapon in PF1, but in PF2 they wanted to emphasise two-weapon fighting as a Ranger thing, so while they took away Valeros's off-hand weapon in exchange for a shield, Harsk now takes the role of resident dual-wielder. Notice as well that one of his most prominent accoutrements is his black tea kettle. Tea is Harsk's primary vice, man after my own heart.

Rogue

Merisiel (she/her, Elf, PF1 vs. PF2)

And now we come to the last member of the token non-human gang, Merisiel the Elf Rogue. Her outfit has remained mostly the same, though her rapier has undergone a transformation, and she seems to have swapped her throwing knives for a main-gauche. Wayne mentioned in his video that he tried to make his elves look more alien, moving away from just being "humans, but" like so many fantasy races. Merisiel is slender and waspish. Speaking of wasps, the black and yellow striped cloth is a symbol of her deity, Calistria, the Savoured Sting, god of lust, revenge and trickery.

Merisiel is Kyra's wife.

Sorcerer

Seoni (she/her, Human [Varisian], PF1 vs. PF2)

Seoni was the second character ever designed for Pathfinder.

Like Amiri, she shows off a lot of skin, because her tattoos are a big part of her character design. She got a cool new cloak though, and her staff got an upgrade (Wayne talks about the specific inspiration for this in his video). The cloak actually appears in some PF1 artwork, like her appearance on the cover of Mythic Adventures.

Wizard

Ezren (he/him, Human [Taldan], PF1 vs. PF2)

And last but not least, we have the Iconic Wizard, Ezren. Just like Kyra, Sajan and Harsk, the glow-up really made his robes vibrant, and I love that he's now showing off a little magic for us. His walking cane was upgraded to a staff, but it still has the iconic head. PF1 Ezren carries a crossbow, since in that game low-level magic was incredibly weak and spellcasters often needed a crossbow as a backup weapon. (somebody pointed out to me after I published this post that PF2 does still wear a crossbow on his right hip, don't know how I didn't notice that before)

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