#metacrisis

[macbethz]

sketchy metacrisis weirdness has been the only thing to get me out of art block recently so thats what you get

lyrics from the severely underrated dolphin by shed seven

[ghost-bison]

rose will never know the irony of her argument with ten and of what she said to him regarding tentoo: "he's not you". girly, he is though.

yes he's part donna, true, but when you look at ten post series 2, guy went dark because rose got taken from him.

losing rose was like a reality check for the doctor and it made him grow up quite a lot.

donna kind of made him go back to his more carefree side, but they had such little time together, and by the time rose was back, ten was still darker than she'd known him.

so now, what is tentoo? he's a mix between ten and donna (between the doctor and the person who made him smile when he thought he wanted to die). the doctor also described him as being like nine ("that's me when we met").

both her versions of the doctor combined in one body. cause tentoo is closer to the doctor she knew than series 4 ten could ever hope to be

[truebluewhocanoe]

In The End of Time, Wilf and the Doctor agreed that they'd be proud to be father and son, respectively. Rose is the Doctor's niece not through the metacrisis but because her great-grandfather is the Doctor's (chosen) father.

[cbartonscoffee]

You know something else? The Doctor remembers the words that give Donna back her memories from the top of his head. No hesitation whatsoever. How much have they thought about her and how they parted?

[theladysiubhan]

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[doctor-who-binge]

As I watch Donna's "death" I utterly refuse to believe that to fix the metacrisis all you need is to Be A Woman uwu and Let It Go. Fuck that girl power bs fr.

In my head, the metacrisis was weakened by being split between two people, and their human ingenuity & soul knew to let it go. The Doctor couldn't understand NOT because they're A Male Presenting Time Lord uwu but because they are A Time Lord period— "lacking that little bit of human" needed to understand, as Donna said in Journey's End.

Even as an enby it's just annoying to have this hell of a companion departure fixed by Girl Power™

[firstprince-ao3feed]

if i was born as a blackthorn tree i'd wanna be felled by you held by you

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[inhonoredglory]

i dont know if you partake in any of the doctor who comics at all - i certainly dont. i like keeping my sanity safe (its a mess of strange stories and paradoxes from what ive been able to tell. as are most comic series). but recently there was one that elaborated a bit on rose and the metacrisis’s life post journeys end, and its one of the few pieces of media we have for them. i didnt care enough to read the whole thing, the only interesting part to me was apparently they had a little girl named mia, and ive been thinking abt that dynamic nonstop since. cant decide how realistic it is for them, but on the otherside augh its so sweet. anyway, i just wanted to ask how you feel about rose and the metacrisis in general, and whatever that entails. curious abt ur thoughts on them!

- armin anon/lesbian anon/whatever you feel like calling me lol

OMGG my anon (of many names lol)! OK first off, I drafted some of this way back but forgot to add on and post, so in the words of our beloved Doctor,

🌹 But onto the DW comics and Meta-Crisis/Rose!!

I only recently started reading the comics, starting with the ones about Gabby Gonzalez by Nick Abadzis, and I have to admit:

They make me yearn pretty fucking hard to run away and travel with the Doctor. There's some killer art by Elena Casagrande that feels so much like the Doctor we know and love (that kindness, that earnest love.... god!! my heart and soul!!).

But I warn ye (any readers of this post), DO NOT TOUCH Volume 2 by Robbie Morrison. He takes Ten blatantly out of character, making him out to be an arrogant bastard who belittles his companion and is flippant in the face of suffering. (Morrison watched too much Eleven, methinks 🙈)

I haven't read the Rose/Meta-Crisis comic yet (part of the Empire of the Wolf series), but I did see the important panel from that series, showing Rose's daughter Mia:

I think the Meta-Crisis settling down to have a family with Rose is pretty in-character and very much what the Tenth Doctor would have wanted, as much as it hurt him.

Because Ten fundamentally felt unworthy of Rose.

💔 The Doctor's Trauma

Rose was strong and compassionate and amazing, and Ten had done so much, seen so much, experienced so much tragedy and guilt. He's a man wrecked by PTSD, depression, shame, and self-blame. He felt like it wasn't fair to her that she'd sacrifice her life to someone who would go on living and changing and becoming a different person, while she grew old and died in a world without a home and away from everyone she knew.

He didn't want her to become like him, homeless and without the love of friends and family, because to be him is to be alone. And he didn't want that for her. Because he wanted her to be happy, not just momentarily, but for the rest of her life.

Ten is a man who loathes taking life, and it weighs on him every time someone sacrifices who they are because they love him.

It's no surprise Ten's entire decision about the Meta-Crisis took place after Davros massively guilt-tripped him into thinking it was his fault that all those people died. (It wasn't.) But Davros played on Ten's depression and trauma, manipulating Ten into thinking he had done unforgivable things to the people he loved. (when in fact those people died because they were inspired to be selfless like him, or were killed someplace beyond the Doctor's reach)

I've actually been doing a lot of research on Ten's trauma (including invaluable insight from Judith Lewis Herman's famous book Trauma and Recovery). This journal article about Major Depressive Disorder speaks so deeply to Ten's character, especially post-Time War and post-Davros:

"Guilt promotes altruistic behavior via acting out reparative tendencies, whereas shame reduces altruism by means of increasing social and interpersonal distance."

This explains so much about Ten's choice to sacrifice his own happiness and ask Rose to take his Meta-Crisis as her life partner. He's pushing her away, isolating himself. He's rejecting the people he loves the most because he's in a very, very dark place.

🖤🤍💜 An Asexual (Meta) Reading

There's so many reasons that Ten felt he couldn't give Rose the life she wanted (his trauma, his values). There's one angle I've been sifting around in my head in the past couple years, and it's more of a headcanon than anything: For me, because of the way the Doctor's character has been established since 1963, the Doctor's own asexuality is an almost meta-conceptual reason why the Doctor in general can't have a "normative," family life.

He couldn't say "I love you"—not because he didn't love her. (He loved her more than he ever loved himself.) But also because he knew what saying those words would mean: the expectations, the responsibility, the behaviors he felt she deserved to have from him because those words carry so much weight in human culture. All those things he could not give her.

But the Meta-Crisis could. I personally headcanon that the Meta-Crisis is not asexual like the Doctor. (Just like John Smith may not have been asexual either.) The point of both John Smith and the Meta-Crisis is showing how much they differ from the Doctor—and I think sexuality is one of those differences. It's why it was so easy for John Smith to imagine a traditional life, why it was so easy for the Meta-Crisis to promise his entire world and his entire self to Rose on that beach.

🌹 The Meta-Crisis and Rose Tyler

Which brings me back to the Tentoo himself. He was born in battle and he can die, but what does that exactly mean for his life with Rose? It's fascinating because to imagine the Doctor feeling mortality and knowing he cannot cheat death anymore—that's a horrific, terrifying thing.

There are actually two Big Finish Audios that explore this traumatic realization for the Doctor, and what that does to him. (They're both one-shots from Jackie's POV and narration, and you can listen to them here: Part 1, Part 2).

It makes Tentoo lean into his Ninth-era darkness, a ruthlessness to villains driven by the fear that he cannot protect Rose because he is not indestructible. But luckily for him, there are people he loves around him (Jackie and Rose) who keep him from that darkness.

Additionally, the Big Finish stories lean into the fact that Tentoo and Rose aren't sitting idly by. Both of them work for Torchwood and are growing their own TARDIS to continue to defend the Earth.

They don't settle down into a domestic life, at least not right away, and I think that suits them both. We know how much Rose didn't want the life of eating chips and watching telly. But listen to what RTD's Doctor Who has always tried to say: How deeply important the everyday things are, how much the Doctor, for how amazing they are, craves for a life of simplicity and the stupid little things that define humanity.

Because here's the key: It wasn't the everyday things that bothered Rose. Like she told Mickey in "Parting of the Ways":

ROSE: But what do I do every day, mum? What do I do? Get up, catch the bus, go to work, come back home, eat chips and go to bed? Is that it? MICKEY: It's what the rest of us do. ROSE: But I can't! MICKEY: Why, because you're better than us? ROSE: No, I didn't mean that. But it was. It was a better life. And I don't mean all the travelling and seeing aliens and spaceships and things. That don't matter. The Doctor showed me a better way of living your life. You know he showed you too. That you don't just give up. You don't just let things happen. You make a stand. You say no. You have the guts to do what's right when everyone else just runs away

Rose didn't hate the domestic, everyday life. She hated how life had no meaning.

She hated how people let things happen to them, without challenging anything or standing up for anything. She didn't want to travel as much as she wanted to live, to be something and do something with her life.

And that's the magic of Doctor Who, particularly RTD's era. Because you can be amazing and you can have meaning even without the Doctor, but the Doctor shows you how.

You stand up for what you believe is right and you choose to give meaning to what you do in life. You don't need to travel the stars to do that. You can make choices that give your life meaning right here and now. You can believe in something. You can find meaning in your place in the universe. You can give your enthusiasm and time to something that is important. Meaning and purpose comes from how we see the world, and that change in perspective is what Rose finds with the Doctor.

If Rose is with someone who can fill her life with meaning, who inspires her to see life as a beautiful adventure, then it really doesn't matter what she's doing with them. In The Impossible Planet, Rose was completely willing to settle down with Ten to "find a planet, get a job, live a life, same as the rest of the universe." Why? Because she'd be with him.

ROSE: This lot said they'd give us a lift. DOCTOR: And then what? ROSE: I don't know. Find a planet, get a job, live a life, same as the rest of the universe.

If I imagine Tentoo as a dad, I can't help but imagine him like Tennant himself. Kind, giving, selfless, and loving. I think Tentoo would be so afraid of letting someone hurt his child, because he hasn't had a family in so long, and he isn't the same man he was in those ancient days when, as a completely different man, he had a family.

He's a man still afraid of himself, still keenly aware of the inhuman things he's capable of. I think this fear would drive Rose and him closer together, like it did when he was Nine. But Tentoo is more self-aware now, more willing to grow and change and be different. Because he's the Doctor who was given a second chance, to live the life he thought he'd never have with the person he loves. He wants to be different to make this work.

I also think Tentoo would be the Doctor who passes on his title after he's gone. Not that I like to think about Tentoo dying one day, but let's be real: Where would his TARDIS go? As a half-human, I think Tentoo could imagine Mia taking on the role of Defender of the Earth when he and Rose have passed on. She would have been there to see it grow, and she would have been there when Tentoo and Rose first stepped out into the stars with this brand-new TARDIS. Because of his mortality, I think it would make Tentoo more open to sharing the secret, sacred things of his Gallifreyan people with the family he chose to start. He's not alone anymore, he has someone to share it with, someone who will pass it on after him and keep the world safe in his stead.

Which is all to say, I think it's a gift that Rose has the Meta-Crisis. Because when Ten regenerated and became, as he said, a completely different man, she was able to stay with the person she fell in love with and explore what that life was like, to have him with her for all of her life, and all of his.

[hitchell-mope]

Two observations. A headcanon. And an unpopular opinion.

Observation 1. From 2005-2017. Each regeneration episode features some form of time loop. Bad Wolf sent its message through time and space to lead Rose to it. The time lords in the time war sent the drum beat to infect Yana as a child to break them out of the time lock. The Kovarian Chapter went back along Eleven’s time stream to make sure he never made it to Trenzalore but he still made it to Trenzalore because of River. And One and Twelve decided to finally regenerate after being reminded why they carry on thanks to each other.

Observation 2. As far as Donna’s probably concerned. Time lords are almost definitely like worms. Because she’s never seen a proper regeneration in person. She saw the metacrisis. And she saw the bigeneration. She’s never seen the full change on screen. So in a way. Donna was right. For all she’s aware of. Time lords are almost definitely like worms.

Headcanon. Fourteen is Rose’s Uncle John in public. Like when they go bowling or to Frankie and Benny’s for dinner. Fifteen is Rose’s cousin Jj. John Noble Junior. He took objection to being Fourteen’s son because he is clearly older. But he got outvoted.

Unpopular opinion. I actually love the Unit Tower. After all the shit Kate got put through with the serpent, the flux and the giggle she deserves to have a nice big fancy building to protect the world in when the Doctor’s not around. Kate’s, shall we say, overzealous hiring methods aside. Unit should have the resources and funding to do their job without the government and its bureaucracy interfering. And I hope the Doctor gets his paycheque. Plus. I also hope that Kate and Ibrahim are together. God knows she deserves a love life. Especially after all she’s been through.

[lifeforms-multifandom]

oKAY SO HOW DID I LITERALLY JUST REALISE IN 2023 THAT DONNA’S OUTFIT IN THE SERIES 4 PROMOS IS FORESHADOWING TO THE DOCTORDONNA LIKE. THE JACKETS.

[thirdeyeblue]

Tentoo, Rose, and Mia

Happy birthday, @cersxisbitch 💖💖💖

Celebrating your birth with… well. Our favorite birth. 😏 I drew this with your fic Dimorphous Expressions of Positive Emotion in mind, thinking this took place at some point after the Doctor’s come to peace with his understanding of “cute aggression”.

[doctorkinktraveller]

Russell T Davies had planned the surprise ending for 'The Stolen Earth' some time in advance.

He wanted to do the "biggest, boldest, most shocking cliffhanger ever seen on Doctor Who", made even more powerful because a regeneration is usually resolved before the credits.

Davies believed that "nobody would see it coming", and it would "properly tug on the heartstrings".

He and David Tennant also agreed early on that the fatal shot would occur before he reunited with Rose because "the Doctor doesn't get happy endings. It's the greatest, and most tragic, love story ever."

[ghost-bison]

the big dick trio

[tenderly-wicked]

Some fourteenth Doctor whump :)

Posted my latest Doctor Who fanfic (So I Could Be Kind, So I Could Be Nice) on Wattpad, in case I lose access to AO3 (it's blocked in my country, and VPN apps are being blocked too).

Summary: Letting go of residual energy is not as simple as Donna and Rose might believe.

The fic on AO3.

UPD: it looks like I am off AO3, at least for now, until I find a VPN app that is still working here, but I do get all the comments and kudos by email, and it's very heartwarming :)

[sir-adamus]

what is it specifically about Donna Noble that both times she's been present for a regeneration, an obscure clause or loophole comes into play

[shoepolishpolice]

I’m pretty sure the reason they ended the whole meta crisis thing with just “letting it go” is to parallel 14s regeneration- last time he “didn’t want to go” this time he will be ready and happily just “let go” and become someone new. Almost voluntary, he’ll complete his unfinished business and this time be willing. The happier ending that 10 never got