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interstellar-wanderer · 1 year ago
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We didn't see Norm MacLean getting into his dad's cryo pod, just saying.
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godrestyescarygentlemen · 7 months ago
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Thinking and taking some inspiration from dark shows/movies because I am invested on writing regarding Terrifier and Art the Clown specifically.
Certain plots in my head are mostly related to the Lore of the franchise, taking things from the 9th Circle short film by Leone but also trying to pinpoint Art's personality without writing him out of character, and man is *hard*.
I am not very interested in writing him soft or out of character but I mostly overanalyse this fella, especially his motivations and behaviors, and the more I do the more is like the dude has no agenda beyond wanting to mess with the life of people he finds on his way.
Is af if death has become such a norm around him he has lost respects for the living. Something I have realized is that his personality runs through a spectrum from childish fascination, to serious as fuck and focused on his work ahead, and then absolutely unhinged.
He is evil, that is for sure, but I do believe the movies makes you believe he is the ultimate evil, when he is not, makes you forget even when powered by demonic forces he is still human at his core until the writing says otherwise.
Other thing I realized about him is the contradictory information we have had from his actions alone, he seems to have some type of OCD which people has taken as a sign of him being "civilized"; he mops the floor in the laundromat, cleaning after himself, cleaning his clothes and also cleaning his dishes, he also flush the urinals and cleans his hands after going to the bathroom, drinks a glass of water in Allie's kitchen, as well as to knowing how to prepare a good mashed potatoes in Sienna's house (you know the scene). He seems to be very methodical in what he does, and does it for himself most of the time, as a preparation or even to relax after the job is done.
He is also annoyed by people, annoyed at their society and even their emotional connections, he finds it funny. But what I found interesting is how he found Vicky, a literal demon, annoyed af when she seem to find the rats on his hideout cute and started playing with them.
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My theory is that maybe Jonathan is wrong, maybe is not the fact that Art is a serial killer what attracted the demon possessing Vicky to this world, is something else entirely, this is a distraction. Art is some type of bridge.. the same way Sienna is for a celestial force, why?
Because both of them might be half human even if they don't even know they are, and the key is on the short film The 9th Circle (2007) by Damien Leone.
That would explain why they are the only ones seeing the Little pale Girl aka a Demon on this world, why Art, an antisocial psychopath, tries to fit into society doing mundane things and laughing with people, until he finds is too boring and kills everyone around him, to the point he laughs at human's mannerisms and reactions to HIS reactions, to the point he finds alien and uncanny.
A lot of people tries to analyze Art as if he does not understand or does everything so bizarrely wrong regarding human behaviors, but what I see on him is that he does understand quite well human behaviors, social connections, reactions and also mannerisms to the point of mocking them in his own performance, or even using it at his advantage.
But also he still is antisocial, being annoyed even at the mere company around his hideout. This is because he might have stopped caring long time to really fit, he plays with people, he plays around with humans, until he finds them too much, too annoying, this is a man who found even a demon annoying and only interacted with them/her when realizing he could have an advantage in killing more people, I don't even think for a minute Art really thought in following Vicky's orders beyond his own interests.
I have others theories as well and I might want to analyze them more and fresh them out before posting them here.
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iamyourscarletvision · 2 years ago
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Why no one is talking about Spider-Zero being a future version of Gabriella O‘Hara
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She was present as just Spider-Zero in the Spider-Verse 2019 comics, as a young teenager who lost her world and traveled from universe to universe, ultimately recruiting Spider-Man. She tend became the Master Weaver, who guards and protects the Web of Life and Destiny, pretty much the job Miguel has in Across the Spider-Verse.
Most importantly, her name and identity was never revealed in the comics. She lost her world due to an Incursion, which caused a dimensional contraction, basically two realities or Earths to collide with each other. I can totally see this in what Miguel did when he reemplaced his other self, but with a more Matrix-like imagery.
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She traveled through worlds, and then became Master Weaver. But most importantly, she contacted Miles Morales to help her repair the Web of Life and Destiny.
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If she is not in Beyond the Spiderverse, then I will be deeply disappointed.
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eddiegettingshot · 2 months ago
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new thing where they put buck in the wifiest little cardigans and make his bosom look extra full when it’s him and eddie being partners in their house i think
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wernerherzogs · 2 months ago
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ok this is apparently unpopular, but i think the ostark/jlh script "leak" was fake even if bobby's alive (and yes i'm mad about it 💁🏻‍♀️ poor taste!). i know 911 isn't big on realism, but a funeral doesn't get organised in a day (obviously this post is invalid if they do decide to textually throw it the next day post lab death, but imho it's v unlikely), so even if bobby had somehow survived All Of That, he would have then died due to malnutrition/dehydration/lack of air. the only way they can pull alive bobby off imho is if he's being currently kept at some military base and poked and prodded at (which other people have proposed as A Theory already, ik). my money also is on the show not revealing that bobby's alive until the second half of the last episode of the season (the very last scenes most likely; pre s9 hiatus cliffhanger) - which will give them some time to nicely explore the characters' grief/etc. and associated plotlines first, and can be reasonably explained in-universe as the military/TPTB not wanting to Say anything until they were 100% sure bobby would stay alive. not sure how peter being present on set for ep 17 plays into that, but i'm currently thinking flashbacks (although i like the hallucination theory as well). might be wrong tho
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wavytam · 5 months ago
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Whose Straw Hat dream will come true first and last?
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Now that we are approaching Elbaf and the final stages of the story, I want to share a theory that's been on my mind for a while about the dreams of the East Blue group.
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In the famous barrel scene where Sanji, Luffy, Zoro, Nami, and Usopp share their dreams, I find it interesting how Oda chose the order in which they revealed them. For example, he could have followed the order of their appearances in the story (or reversed it, making Luffy share his dream last for dramatic effect). But he chose to start with Sanji and end with Usopp.
And I think t's worth noting that this same order was preserved in the Live Action adaptation.
Now that we are in Elbaf, a place deeply connected to Usopp—who dreams of becoming a renowned warrior, and Elbaf is known for its brave fighters—I believe his dream might be the first to come true among the group.
However, even before this realization, I’ve had a theory that the order in which Oda had the Straw Hats state their dreams is actually the reverse order in which their dreams will come true. In other words:
Usopp → Nami → Zoro → Luffy → Sanji
(Come to think of it, the dream order does follow the order of the Straw Hat's appearance, the only one who is out of order actually IS Sanji lol)
(Of course, in between their dreams, the remaining five Straw Hats’ dreams will also come true. I’m suspecting that Robin is very close to hers as well)
If we consider their journey so far, this reversed order could hint at how the story will unfold.
Usopp’s dream will come true by the end of Elbaf
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First, we know there will be a grand war in One Piece before the story ends. Luffy, whether he wants it or not, will need a massive army for this war. While he already gained one in Dressrosa, the giants could become involved—and possibly essential. I think that by the end of the arc, either Loki or Hajrudin will become the leader of Elbaf (probably King) and ally with Luffy on his Grand Fleet.
In Elbaf, where the giants have chosen not to fight anymore, I’m sure their perspective will change. Given the shifting tides, they’ll likely realize the need to protect themselves and return to their warrior roots. I think Usopp will play a key role in convincing them to fight again. In doing so, he’ll finally be recognized as the Great Warrior of the Sea by many.
Nami’s dream will come true by Laugh Tale
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After Elbaf, it’s highly likely that Laugh Tale is next. Laugh Tale marks the end of their journey around the world. By this point, even if they haven’t physically visited every region besides the Grand Line, Nami will likely have completed her world map using the maps and references they’ve collected during their travels.
Zoro’s dream will come true during the Great War
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Following that, the Great War will commence—a conflict that will likely bring back many of the Straw Hats’ previous foes, such as Doflamingo, Wapol, and possibly Buggy, Crocodile, and Mihawk. During this time, I believe Zoro will stay behind in a critical moment to face Mihawk in a rematch. He’ll win and finally achieve his dream of becoming the world’s greatest swordsman.
Luffy’s dream will come true by the end of the Great War
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During the final battle, the identity of the main antagonist remains unclear. Many theories suggest Blackbeard, Imu, or even Buggy or Shanks. However, regardless of who it is, what matters is that Luffy will emerge victorious and reshape the world forever. There’s a prophecy that he will destroy Fishman Island, and many believe this will happen because Luffy will destroy the Red Line—specifically, the section where Mariejois resides. This act would dismantle the division and tyranny represented by the Celestial Dragons. By the end, Luffy will symbolize unity and freedom, fulfilling his destiny as the Pirate King. Let’s remember that we don’t know what exactly is his dream, but we do know that he needs to become Pirate King to achieve it.
Sanji’s dream will come true by the end of the One Piece
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Finally, with the world at peace, the All Blue will form where the symbol of tyranny and separation—Mary Geoise—once stood. It will become a paradise, connecting the North, South, East, and West Blues. This will also be the place where Luffy liberated the world. Sanji, at last, will cook a massive feast for all the companions they made along their journey, celebrating with everyone’s favorite meals since now he has all of the ingredients in the world.
I guess this is it. This theory is not exactly new lol as I just found out, as I went looking for images in google, that a lot of fans are also theorizing the same thing — which is actually a good sign for me lol
To end it, in an interview, Oda mentioned that he already has the final panel of the story planned. I’m willing to bet that this final scene will be a grand image of the Straw Hats enjoying a banquet together. Maybe we get a prologue after that, but I bet that the official end will have the Straw Hats all together.
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allthespoons · 27 days ago
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everyone’s LOVING my theories today
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slopheaven · 2 months ago
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wait oh my god do u think this is a result of that one post that was like “when tumblr goes down we should form an underground community dedicated to reenacting famous car crashes for sexual pleasure” or wtvr. The one that was obviously a joking reference to the movie and not op saying they had a legitimate car crash fetish (performative or otherwise) . because if so that would be really funny
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i think if u are saying this stuff atp u need to log off. The wider tumblr public is not posting about car crash sex i Promise You
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loneisstarly · 4 months ago
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Clone Wifies is actually the real wifies + additional points
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Additional Points:
-yeah no, the Omziscool debunks are 100% part of the collab's story line.
-im expecting if there is a comeback form Omz mask it would 100% have one of the clone Wifies as its host.
-apparently there is a members only video where it shows Wato (as evilfies) jumping out of the factory and running away. This I say is when wato gives Ken wifies' IP address, wato breaking control of Omz and running away Ken's help but Omz took over by then and without any other excuse as why Wato agreed to meet him, it had to give Ken the IP address
-the "but there was more" video, like I said in the doc, the Infinite maze the main 3 plan on trapping Omz in but one change. The maze/escape room was created by Omz itself (for enemies, rogue experiments etc?) as a prison. After Ken and Wifies defeat Omz, Ken going exploring and thats how he find both the maze and a very confused Wato, prompting the questioning session in 'True Creator'. Omz has by now fled.
-Wato's End Barren's video could possibly be showing what he experienced when he was being mind controlled by the Omz mask to do his bidding. This is especially suggested by the dreamy/hazy vibes of the video, the kinda muffled voices all characters and general vibes of the entire thing as it is how Mind control is usually depicted in popular media. Him constantly talking at the end about 'getting out' could possibly imply not him leaving the End barrens but rather exciting the Mind control state he is in. Maybe this was the Omz mask's way of pacifying Wato, Ken appears for a brief second, corelating when he appeared to convince Wato to give him Wifies' IP address and Wifies appears becuz well... he is stuck with him mind controlled too under the OMz!Wato. Maybe the appearence of Wifies correlates to when in the actual reality Omz!Wato forced Wifies to slove the escape room for him so everything seems normal when Ken barges in. It also shows the Psychological torture the mask uses to keep Wato weak and helpless under his control. The 'Alternate takes of End Barrens' gives a clear view of his mental degradation.
-The Infinite Maze video by Wato just conforms my theory of 'prison' that the trio are making for the Omz mask to trap it in it forever.
-The new End Barrens video just conforms my theory a bit more, and expands it as it clearly shows the mental degradation Wato goes thru. Weaker minds are easier to control and making Wato weak is the mask's goal, highlighted especially by the absolute isolation and the random appearances and disappearances of Ken and Wifies. It also seems the mask is getting desperate too, just as Evilfies/Omz!wato is gets when he realises his plans are failing the moment Ken argues with him and call him out in V2.
-just saw that 2009 scary stories video of Wifies and HOLY CRAP it conforms my theory of him being the Model for all of the Evilfies' clones. Its just his memories coming back of when he was in imprisonment, of him being kidnapped, the mask's obsession with him, of OMZ WANTING TO BE WIFIES, EVERYTHING. "Wifies, smile for me." You tell models to smile for photoshoots and that's whats happening! Wifies is being modelled! Like i said in the document HE IS THE IDEAL MODEL FOR OMZ, so can Omz never be caught again. Never have to run for its sentient life, never fear for imprisonment. All the other Wifies' you see in the video are just Worker Clones who help Omz in his mission!
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threesixfiveremix · 2 months ago
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welcome to my official alive bobby thought dump please take a seat
things i think we need to consider:
1. no body shown, we didn't even see him go in the bag which is...interesting!
2. they took 2 weeks to release the body and this was delivered as if it was very relevant information, there was really no reason that the no coherent timeline show needed to work with the 2 week episode gap. like it was not necessary. they mentioned this for a reason.
3. "third thing" convo between chim and buck. again this was kind of drawn out and seems like it's pointing at something hmmm wonder what...
4. oliver's brad pics = bobby brad hotshots parallels
5. peter filming in the firehouse with everyone including ryan (i really don't know what to make of this bc i don't think more flashbacks really make sense but who knows)
6. the extras who were filming at a cemetery???
7. all the contradicting info and interviews from post 815
8. oliver deleting the peter ig post lol
i think the likelihood of him actually coming back at the end of 816 was low considering oliver described buck as being devestated for the rest of the season. plus if they're really comitting to the emotional impact of him being notdead i think they need more than one ep.
i really don't think he's dead but i think they're dragging this out till the end of the season. i kind of think the buried alive thing could still work if the government end up burying his actual body in la. this would explain how he calls maddie when she would have been at the funeral and why he wouldn't be calling from minnesota. i do think that option could drag this thing out to s9 tho with the big event/emergency in the first episode being digging up bobby. which i do not like but whatever i guess.
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transbeeduo · 9 days ago
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kris isnt even posessed thats just what being autistic in highschool is like
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interstellar-wanderer · 1 year ago
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Theory about The Ghoul/Cooper: Highly influenced and vulnerable to dishonesty.
Cooper Howard trusts deeply in the people he loves and the idea of the American Dream that was sold to him during the Sino-American war. He fought for those ideals, his country and the people he loved, and before the Great War and drop of the bombs he can't stand any other perspective for his own sanity.
The problem is, he is not a very good actor you see. He usually creates the character of a highly dignified cowboy because it is a projection of what he wants for himself, an ideal version of a man, openly criticizing the choice of the character not doing what he would do in real life (shooting someone), and in his other movie, he plays a role of a man with a dog, with the help of his own dog and not another random dog, I believe because he wanted to portray his own relationship with his loved pet rather than a random role.
He lives his characters and roles, to the point of turning one of them when becoming the Ghoul, this lone cowboy and bounty hunter hurt by his past and tired of the cruelty and dishonesty around the Wasterland.
He uses his emotions and all his heart for his roles and forgets everything else because through his roles he is showing a part of himself in the process, but with the consequence of leaving nothing to protect himself, because he has never created a facade around his person, he is honest and true, th same way we see The Ghoul as he is, no lies nor attempts at dishonesty; he is clear with his intentions to the very end.
But because of this, Cooper is vulnerable and ignorant to true deep dishonesty, to someone who would straight up lie to his face, to someone living two parallel life at the same time. He prides himself on knowing his wife's true motivations and never thinking bad about her, he also sees Lucy and believes her just as transparent but never thought of her surviving SnipSnip.
When Barb showed her real colors during the Vault-Tec meeting, declaring they should drop the bombs themselves, he broke in such a way he went into shock. One would believe he is in fact a good actor, and would try to be good in hiding it, but I would say Barb was a better one by playing two roles at the same time God knows how long and Cooper suspecting nothing of such. This happens when:
1) she convinces him to pose as Vault boy and be part of their promotional campaign
2) then when she invites everyone to the wrap party to their house without telling him, subsequently not showing remorse at him being abandoned by his Hollywood friends
3) then gatekeeping him regarding her status as worried housewife during the war in Anchorade and how stupid his idea of a ranch was
4) ultimately convincing him to accept his dog should go (something we all know made him suspect of Vault-tec and her), for the sake of their security.
But this caused a drift between them, him starting to suspect something was up when she told him they wouldn't be safe if they buy a bunker themselves because it wouldn't work, then trying hard to "put everyone in one of the GOOD vaults, one which would oversee all others".
This is when his world started to crumble. Not only her lying, but she not trusting him enough with the real truth of their situation, manipulating him instead with a dishonest facade.
The worst part is that it is very likely she knows this about him, his soul is rooter in honesty, fairness, and dignity, do the right thing the same way Lucy envisioned before coming out of Vault 33. He doesn't expect his wife to lie to him or represent a version of the world he fought against, he doesn't expect his country to betray him regarding their safety.
We can understand now why he became such a bitter man, and why he seems to avoid the old version of himself.
Maybe he thinks, if he had known, if he hadn't trusted so damn much, if he hasn't been so vulnerable and hasn't opened his heart expecting the same back, maybe he could have done something to stop it all.
Now every time he looks back, he seems to hate the man he was so very much.
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heathened · 12 days ago
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when it’s rpf summer and you get to have it In The Real World with robin @memorabilia1980
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iamyourscarletvision · 2 years ago
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Beyond The Spiderverse theory time, and I hope no one gets mad at me about this but...
...I do believe there is a big possibility that Peter B. Parker is going to die, and this will involve Miguel's breaking point which will push him to go against Spots.
I have this theory stuck in my head when seeing how isolated not only from the main Spidersociety team Peter is, but also how he feels let go of his spider-man apprentice and didn't support him against Miguel.
This is obviously because Peter was in crossfire which involved Miguel, a man is suspected he has knows for over a year and HELPED him through the grief of losing his daughter, even when Miguel seems to just brush Peter aside, Peter is familiar with Miguel, even more so than Jess, and then there is Miles who now feels betrayed by his one and only teacher, someone he saw as a role model even when depressed due to a divorce.
Also this could play as Peter not being the only spiderperson in his universe anymore, Mayday is already stated to be a spiderling in development and she will need a Uncle Ben situation to rise. Even if she is young, carrying the weight of her father's legacy might cement this.
Now, returning to the complexity of Miguel and Peter situation here. They are friends, maybe is not evident in the superficial sense when watching the movie for first time, as it seems one-sided because Miguel is distant and cold, but there is familiarity and friendship there.
I mean, Peter was there when Miguel lost his daughter Gabriella, just behind him, and I do believe is not a coincidence the animators did this. Miguel shock and sorrow is palpable , and I wonder what happened then? Afterwards? Who carried battered Miguel to 2099 after he lost the people he loved the most?
As well, Miguel seems distant and tries to isolate himself plenty, but Peter does not care about this, which is not the same as not noticing it. He DOES NOTICE, but there is a deeper layer of something unspoked regarding to what happened that day, because it changed everything.
As well, even when Peter is pushy, Miguel does not push him away, still Miguel, in all his deoression, hurts him while showing Miles the canon events of each one of them. This is because Miguel wants for people to feel his hurt and pain, his sorrow and his depression, and he becomes violent and desperated if no one listen to him, he becomes abusive and destructive against him and also against others. This could be the reason he has nearly no body movements while Mayday was crawling all over him, a symbolism of him not wanting to taint the kid which in some sense symbolices Peter's care, future and parenthood.
And I do believe Peter knows this, for his body language, he does not respond negatively againts Miguel's snarky comments and angry behaviors, he goes and shows him pics of Mayday and even allows the girl to crawls over Miguel, to which the latest says nothing, and Miguel only repriments him but does not push Peter away, because he is desesperate to help the best he can to people he feels need it the most. This seems unchanged until...
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"Not you, I had the right amount of you"
I watched that scene several times to pinpoint if Miguel's face is out of annoyance or out of regret to what he is gonna do/say against Peter. Miguel's microexpressions are fantastic during the movie as it shows a lot of emotions even more than other characters around him.
I do believe, maybe I want to believe, is both, annoyance over Peter complete lack of common sense, but also knowing and regreting he will need to push away a good friend, as this friend seems not to realize how high the stakes are and also, his parental skills are seriosly something to be questioned. But the scene plays as if Miguel truly hates what he has to do, just how he said in his own intro.
"Some times I don't like what I have to do"
So, now we knows Peter is going to be in the final movie and he is also bringinf Mayday with him, and I doubt he will be out of the very final fight against Spots, and I think for Miguel is going to be extremely difficult to turn around when his friend is in danger, or when his daughter is.
If it happens, as well, I do not think it will be a quixk dead, I think is going to hurt. Peter might say things to both Miles and Miguel, maybe he will ask Miguel to take Mayday with him to safety, because is important to him, is his daughter and the future of his whole dimension.
For Miles, Peter B. is already an stablished character who is seems as a mentor and parental figure, while for Miguel, Peter is EVERYTHING he would have wanted to do, in some sense he is proud of Peter for having the life himself will never have, and in a more negative and dark side, Miguel might have wished some times for a future where Peter might go away and disappear, for all the pain and sorrow he still experiences due to Gabriella's death.
And if Peter dies, maybe in front of Miguel, or be in front of everyone, Miguel might felt such regret he will snap, regretting not having been ways more careful for what he wished for.
EDIT: As well, is important to realize that Peter B. arc as a mentor and teacher to Miles is already over, Miles choose his path as his own Spider-Man, and Peter does not need to mentor him through it. Miles will be fine without Peter, but I do believe Miguel needs to realize that pushing away his friends and also a posibility of found family is just diving into grief and depression, a self-destructive behaviour as strong as to accept Canon events as facts, is unfair to life itself. And what is more unfair than the sunshine of a man who is Peter, with a little girl and happy wife, with a bright future in front of him, dying when protecting the innocents?
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sillysymbol · 8 months ago
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they had a narrator/tyler durden thing going on i think
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wavytam · 6 months ago
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Sanji’s Celestial Connections: His Race, and the Mysteries of One Piece
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This post evolved from a simple attempt to connect Sanji with the imagery of the Sky to, perhaps, my current guess/theory on the nature of his powers and his role in the story of One Piece.
Throughout the manga Sanji has been given intriguing abilities and qualities, making him not only a proficient fighter but, more importantly, an empathetic and talented cook. As the story of One Piece progressed, Oda also revealed the amount of thought he put not just into Sanji's personality but also into his backstory. However, the origins of some of these abilities still remain somewhat vague—even after an entire arc dedicated to his past. Maybe this mystery might be intentional, tied to the significant role Sanji is destined to play by the end of the story.
This mystery is what I will try to analyse here and in future posts before the manga ends and they are (hopefully) unraveled — again, if all of this was intentional on Oda's part.
The topics I will cover:
Elbaf: The Underworld, the Sun, and the Heavens
Heaven and the Religion of One Piece
Sky/Sun/Sea/Hell
Sky (空) vs. Heaven (天): Science vs. Religion
Sanji’s Connection to the Heavens
The Mysterious Circular Energy and The Power of Fire
Sanji’s Race and the True Power of the Vinsmokes
Sanji, Devil Fruits and the Lineage Factor
The Will of Love
The Devil and Angels
Sanji’s Transformations
The Blue Demon of the Sea Science
Heavenly Warrior of Love
The All Blue
Disclaimers:
a) This post is purely made for fun, so don’t take it too seriously! I’m focusing on a character who isn’t the main protagonist of One Piece, so I might give him more attention than Oda himself (probably) plans to;
b) Secondly, I'm aware that this is a big tinfoil theory. It's up to you if you want to read it, and I’d be grateful if you did, even if it's a bit of a crazy reach. And even if you don't believe in any of what I proposed I hope it at least helped you with finding your own conclusions about Sanji;
c) Many points, especially regarding Sanji potentially being from a [spoiler]-related race have already been mentioned by other One Piece fans. I’ll address all the evidence (even the repeatedly discussed ones) to make this post as complete as possible — I’ll also leave links at the end to these and other interesting fan theories regarding the topics mentioned! While each theory may reach different conclusions (including my own), they all offer rich, insightful perspectives on Sanji and the world of One Piece. See which one resonates with you the most and if you come to a different conclusion!
Feel free to share your views and theories in the comments.
Now, let's get to it (I warn you, this post is long).
Almost a year ago, I wrote another post discussing the possible connections between Nami and Sanji with the imagery of the Sky, similar to how Luffy is often associated with the Sun and Zoro with Hell. That post has been on hiatus: I hadn’t finished reading the entire manga and I needed to go through the entire story to spot any missed clues or details that might discredit my theory.
However, I felt that what I’ve observed in the anime, as well as through Oda’s interviews and other fan analysis, was enough to create a new post specifically about Sanji and his significance to One Piece.
The decision to write this post came after reading chapter 1132, where we saw how Elbaf is divided. These divisions comprise a group of symbols that appeared earlier in the story, which I believe Oda may use for a future revelation.
But first, let's talk about these divisions.
Elbaf: The Underworld, the Sun and the Heavens
Acording to Brogy:
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I think it’s worth noting that, depending on the translated sources, different words are used for these levels:
Heaven/Astral (天界, Tenkai)
Sun/Sunlit (陽界, Yōkai)
Dead/Underworld (冥界, Meikai)
From what I’ve seen, the official (VIZ) translation seems to use: Astral/Sun/Underworld—Levels.
However, for this post, I will use the Heaven/Sun/Underworld classification, and you’ll understand why as you read on.
Since I won’t go into much detail about the Sun and Dead levels (otherwise, this post would be twice as long), let’s focus only on the upper level—which also seems to be the most mysterious of the three: the Realm of Heaven.
By no means am I a proficient Japanese translator, so to help me, here are the translations I found on Google for the kanji used for the Realm of Heaven in the manga:
天界 = tenkai = means "heavenly realm" in the context of Buddhism.  The kanji 天 means "heaven/sky" and 界 means "world." So, the world (界) in the sky or heaven (天) is the "heavenly realm."
Because 'heaven' is a word more associated with religion (and you will understand why I’m bringing up religion), I will use this term for most of the post. However, the word 'astral' will appear in future topics as well as the term ‘sky’.
On Twitter and Youtube, people are already discussing what these realms might represent, and of course, many have realized that Underworld and Sun are symbols used for both Zoro and Luffy in the Wano Arc.
Zoro as the King of Hell (also known as the Underworld) and Luffy as the Sun God Nika.
I don’t believe this necessarily means they’ll be directly connected to these specific places during the arc but I do suggest that Oda:
a) Still needs to address the religious aspect of the One Piece world.
b) Has been using the imagery of Sky, Sun, Sea, and Hell so frequently that there could be a meaningful reason behind it.
Heaven and the Religion of One Piece
Firstly, regarding topic A: Oda often draws from religious and mythological symbols to create characters, islands, and story arcs—examples include Sengoku, Neptune, Noah’s Ark in Fishman Island, and the Ark Maxim in Skypiea. This interest seems rooted not only in his curiosity as a creator but also in influences from other storytellers like Hayao Miyazaki, who incorporates global myths and religions into his works.
So I don't think it’s not far-fetched to assume Oda might use religious themes to shape the origins and powers of key characters, particularly those of the Monster Trio.
But before diving into Sanji’s connection to this theme (it’s all connected, I promise), we must first discuss religion’s role in One Piece.
To conclude the story, Oda must address the spiritual framework of the One Piece world, an element largely unexplored despite the series' rich political, military, social, and historical layers. Religion remains a mysterious yet essential piece of the puzzle, and Elbaf’s deeply religious culture makes it the perfect setting to uncover the origins of Nika and other deities.
I believe the Heaven Realm in Elbaf will serve as a pivotal turning point for the final arcs, both during the crew's time in Elbaf and their subsequent journey to Laugh Tale.
Why the Heavenly Realm? In many cultures, Heaven is where gods and souls reside. I suspect the Straw Hats will venture into this realm and uncover the truth about Nika and, perhaps more importantly, the origin of Devil Fruits.
While science partially explains Devil Fruits at Egghead, their name alone suggests a parallel with the Forbidden Fruit or the Tree of Life from Christian mythology. Why not extend this symbolism to their origin within One Piece’s spiritual framework?
Lastly, I suspect the One Piece treasure is inherently tied to these religious aspects. To reach Laugh Tale and fully understand its significance, I believe the crew must grasp the connection between Nika’s identity, Devil Fruits and religion which will also reveal the greater truths of the Void Century.
Sky/Sun/Sea/Hell
Now, regarding topic B, where have we seen the Sky/Sun/Sea/Hell group before Elbaf to make me think they are somewhat important?
I’ve mentioned this in previous posts (which I will link below), but I’ll briefly cover it here for context.
We saw Sky/Sun/Sea/Hell present in:
Big Mom’s weapons:
The Sun: Prometheus
The Sword/hat: Napoleon (This is a bit of a stretch, but Zoro has the sword Enma, the King of Hell in Japanese mythology—so swords could symbolize Hell, indirectly?)
The Clouds: Zeus/Hera (gods of the Sky)
The strongest fighters of the Pirate King (Jimbei, Sanji, Zoro):
Jimbei, the Knight of the Sea
Sanji, son of Sora (Sky)
Zoro, son of Tera (Earth) (Hell is considered to be located under the earth in many cultures, including Greek and Japanese)
For this one, I’ll take a huge guess and say that Luffy’s mother could have a name related to the Sun, or deities that represent it. Maybe Sun in another language like Sonne (German), Sól/Sunna (Nordic goddess of the Sun), Amaterasu (perhaps a variation of it), or even Inti, the Incan Sun god.
The Ancient Weapons:
Uranus (God of the Sky)
Poseidon (God of the Sea)
Pluton (Pluto/Hades, God of the Underworld/Hell)
Obviously, these groups don’t always contain the same elements (sometimes it’s Sky/Sun/Hell, other times it’s Sky/Sea/Hell), but I think they appear too frequently to be a coincidence. So, considering this, we can speculate that the presence of these four symbols could mean something Oda has been planning to address for a long time.
As they were once again used to describe the Levels of Elbaf, people are discussing whether Heaven represents Nami or Sanji, as Underworld could represent Zoro, and Sun could represent Luffy.
I’ll put on my tin foil hat and say it represents both. In fact, as I mentioned earlier, I wrote a long theory about this topic, BUT there's nothing stopping Oda from using only one of them to represent it.
For this post, I’ll say it’s Sanji. Why? Simple: It’s a shonen manga, and I believe that whatever the Sky/Sun/Hell symbols represent, they’ll likely make the Pirate King and both of his Wings even more powerful fighters for the upcoming war.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure Nami will be just as important (please, I really want that!!), but probably in a different way than Sanji, Luffy, and Zoro. Her power-up might come from a different source, and she might use it differently than Sanji/Zoro/Luffy would use theirs.
Anyway, if my hypothesis is correct, Sanji might once again have a big connection with the Heavens (using Elbaf and other elements I will mention later) and the Sky (using his mother’s name as a basis).
But before that, let’s clarify the difference between the words Sky, Heaven, and Astral.
Sky (空) vs. Heaven (天): Science vs. Religion
Based on the Oxford Dictionary and other sources:
Sky refers to the physical expanse above Earth, including the atmosphere, outer space, clouds, and stars. Derived from the Old Norse word ský, meaning "cloud," it has a more scientific connotation. The Japanese kanji for "sky" is 空 (sora).
Heaven, on the other hand, carries a celestial or religious meaning, often signifying a divine or spiritual realm considered the dwelling place of deities. However, it can also refer to the physical "heavens," meaning the sky or celestial sphere. The kanji for "heaven" is 天 (ten).
Paradise is represented by the term 天国 (tengoku), which refers to the afterlife where souls reside in peace. This kanji is used in One Piece when Zoro promises his name will reach the Heavens (tengoku). However, I will not focus on this term here, as it relates more to Zoro, the underworld, and his connection to Kuina.
Before we end this topic, we also have to talk about the ‘astral’ term, which is another word used to refer to the kanji 天.
Astral relates to the stars, celestial bodies, or the cosmos. It often has a scientific or mystical connotation, focusing on the physical or metaphysical aspects of the universe. While 天 can describe the celestial sky or cosmos, the usage of "astral" typically emphasizes the stars and planets, which might lean more toward 星 (hoshi — single star) or 宇宙 (uchuu — cosmos).
Interestingly, I believe Oda uses the words 空 (sora) and 天 (ten) closely enough in One Piece that they might represent the same concept: the astral plane. Why? In his world, as in ours, science and religion coexist in a chaotic yet complementary way, often blurring the line between them.
In fact, in the real world today there are several concepts or groups that blend religion and science, often seeking to reconcile or find common ground between the two.
For instance, in evolutionary creationism (which has Christian roots), the Sun—a star made of hydrogen and helium—is viewed as both a natural object, created and guided by God to sustain life through scientific processes, and a symbol of divine providence and order in the universe.
In One Piece, the Sun is (most probably) also a star made of hydrogen and helium, and it is also used to represent the Sun God Nika.
Similarly, the sky has long been religiously associated with the dwelling place of gods and, scientifically, UFOs or aliens. When we look up—especially at the night sky—we see not only clouds but celestial bodies such as the Moon, stars, comets, and distant planets. These elements have often been linked to divinities and otherworldly beings in many cultures.
This association likely explains why the sky gained religious (or heavenly) symbolism for many cultures, as it represents a place above us, seemingly out of reach, where deities might dwell—whether Olympus, Asgard, or Takama-ga-hara, depending on the religion in question.
To make this mixture even more complex, regarding the gods from Mesopotamian cultures (the Annunaki), there are ancient texts that describe them as coming from the skies. Today, many conspiracy theorists suggest these “gods” were actually aliens or an advanced civilization that came from another planet and taught humanity astrology and science.
If I’m not wrong, the movie Prometheus (the prequel to Alien) actually explores this exact narrative.
Whether this theory is true in our world or not, this topic does not come into discussion here lol. I'm only addressing this because I think Oda, who seems to be quite interested in researching history and religion, might be using these theories in his story.
I mean, isn’t this theory kind of what is happening to be true in the world of One Piece? Remember what Enel found out in his visit to the Moon? (Keep this part in mind; it will be important later on, and I’m sure you already know why!)
And will you look at that! As I was searching for links to post about the Anunnaki here I found a reddit page that talked exactly about them in connection with One Piece!! I still haven’t read it, but here is the link if you are interested. There is also the reference to Laputa, Hayao Miyazaki's movie that Oda used as a reference as well which brings up very similar themes.
So in One Piece, I think Oda blends science and religion much like how they coexist in our world, enriching his story. He weaves gods, devils, and divinity into his narrative while also providing scientific explanations, as seen in Punk Hazard and Egghead.
In conclusion, for this post, I will treat "sky", "astral' and "heaven" as complementary concepts, merging into a single idea which is a spiritual world. (Only for this post!)
Sanji’s Connection to the Heavens
Now, what does this have to do with Sanji?
Well, throughout the manga, many people have noticed that Sanji—through his family, moves, or even gags—seems to have a peculiar connection to elements associated with the sky or heavens, whether in religious, astronomical, or celestial contexts, especially regarding Christian themes.
Let’s list some of these elements:
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Stars (Stargazing): Sanji displays a notable interest in stargazing, as shown in a few cover pages. In one example, he is inviting Nami to gaze at the stars with him, as seen in the cover page of chapter 1089.
Shooting Stars: In the anime, Sanji’s newest power-up (Ifrit Jambe) resembles a shooting star or a comet streaking across the sky.
Lucky/Miracle Star: Usopp once joked that Sanji was born under a miracle star—and as we all know, Usopp’s jokes or lies often have a way of becoming true. In Japanese folklore and astrology, celestial events (like the appearance of a bright star or comet) were often seen as omens of significant births or changes.
UFOs: Oda once drew a UFO-like object with Sanji’s face on it. Also, in the cover page of chapter 533, Sanji appears to be stargazing with a Mink, seemingly looking for UFOs. Interestingly, there’s a UFO in the background as well.
Space: Sanji lived for a long time on a ship called the Orbit. The term "orbit" is used to describe the motion of a celestial body around another. (Keep that information for later)
Sky Walk: Although this ability was originally called Moon Step (as used by Jabra), Sanji renamed it Sky Walk. When explaining how he acquired this skill, he said he ran until he “flew to the sky”—using the kanji for sora (空) in Japanese.
Son of Sora ("Sky"): This one speaks for itself.
Angel/Lunarian: In Wano, Sanji has been linked to the Lunarian race, who resemble classical depictions of angels in Christian art (not the biblically accurate ones, but more like those seen in traditional paintings). While I don’t think that Sanji is a Lunarian, he might belong to a equally rare race—possibly one connected to the heavens. I’ll explore this idea further later.
Fire/Hell: Sanji’s ability to ignite himself with flames when angry ties him to the element of fire. Anger, in many contexts, represents a response to injustice and revolt. In the Bible, fire symbolizes God’s wrath, passion, purification, and judgment. Sanji even created a move called Hell’s Memories, invoking imagery of eternal judgment and punishment associated with hellfire. There's another meaning for fire that I will talk about in later topics. Also, refer back to the Stargazing section and the titles Oda chose for the cover pages of chapters 533 and 575, which feature Sanji stargazing— Voiceless Rage and Inferno Hell. Hmmmmm.
Son of Judge and Sora / Divine Judgment: Sanji has increasingly embraced the role of enforcing "laws," acting as a kind of jury, judge, and executioner ever since the awakening of his Germa genes in Wano. This could parallel his father’s name, Judge, and his ancestry, while also aligning with the concept of divine judgment—a judgment coming from the skies(Sora). Interestingly, in the recent Elbaf arc, Nami used “Lightning Blast,” a thunderstorm coming from the skies, as Divine Retribution to punish the Giant Road. A curious observation for my other theory.
So, when I say that Sanji has a stronger connection to the heavens, religion and astronomy than previously thought, I believe these elements make the case clear.
As if that weren’t enough, Oda has made another important connection: he compared Sanji’s eyebrows to energy associated with the movement of celestial bodies such as planets, the Sun, and the Moon (Orbit). This will be our next topic of discussion. 
The Mysterious Circular Energy and The Power of Fire
Taken from the SBS of Chapter 55 (Baratie Arc) D: Why does Sanji-san’s eyebrow curl up at the end? Is it for fashion? Make it clear!! O: Hey! You there, sit down! Now listen! Everyone lives in circles! The sun, the moon, and the Earth all spin in circles! And if the Earth suddenly stopped spinning, the planet would be covered in tidal waves! It would be terrible! Now remember that Sanji’s eyebrow channels that same powerful circular energy! Reflect upon this! You may go!
I believe this SBS may be one of the most important pieces of evidence that connect Sanji and the heavens (and it was answered just a few chapters after Sanji’s introduction!!). Oda explicitly said that Sanji’s eyebrows, and therefore Sanji himself, are connected to the movement of celestial bodies, and more importantly, the powerful energy they generate. (Remember, Sanji also lived on a ship called "The Orbit" before meeting Zeff.)
And since it was mentioned, let’s discuss energy in the world of One Piece.
Specifically, during the Egghead Arc, Oda revealed through Vegapunk that fire is considered a precious source of energy because it “can be converted into all types of energy”.
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And wouldn’t you know it? Sanji’s powers manifest as fire—the same powerful and versatile form of energy Vegapunk is trying to unlimitedly have (the Undying Flame)
Meanwhile, Oda also linked the origin of Sanji's fire with his heart in another SBS.
Taken from the SBS of Chapter 426 (Enies Lobby Arc) D: Odacchi, nice to meet you!! I finally sent you a postcard. It’s a serious question, so give me a real answer. That trick that Sanji used to beat Jabra!! If it was that hot to Jabra, wouldn’t it burn Sanji, too?! Wouldn’t Sanji be like, "yeow"?? Tell me! O: What are you talking about… WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!! Are those eyes, or holes in your head?! What were you watching in that fight?! His leg is hot?! No, it’s not hot!! SANJI’S HEART WAS BURNING SO MUCH HOTTER!!!
Now, let’s also remember that Oda originally intended to name Sanji "Naruto." The name Naruto, in addition to being associated with the Ninja manga, refers to the Naruto Whirlpools in Japan.
Whirlpools are often symbols of natural force and spiritual energy, and this could be the same "circular energy" Oda refers to in the SBS about Sanji’s eyebrows.
Curiously, we can parallel the meaning of his name to Nami’s name, as hers means “wave”. Once again, both she and Sanji have a weird relation with similar symbols, whose intention I cannot quite grasp yet. If any of this information brought up an idea for you, let me know.
Back to whirlpools, a long time ago, I watched one of the best theories/analysis about Sanji from a YouTuber called "Parvision." In it, if I remember correctly, he discussed the importance of the whirlpool imagery for Sanji and linked his powers to Haki as well. Here is the video.
To be honest, I watched his videos a while ago, so I don’t recall everything he said (it’s a 1-hour video full of rich infos, lol), but he is amazing, and his theories are really insightful! He also covers many of the topics we’re discussing here about Sanji’s mysterious powers. I’m not sure what his conclusion about Sanji’s origins is, but give it a look, and I’m sure you won’t regret it!
Aside from the circular energy and flames association, Oda has also linked Sanji to Devil Fruits in another SBS (where Sanji wasn’t even mentioned in the question but Oda insisted on bringing him up, lol).
Taken from the SBS of Chapter 436 (Enies Lobby Arc) D: Do all Devil Fruit have that swirly pattern on them? O: That’s right. It’s what distinguishes them from other fruits. Sometimes I wonder if Sanji himself is a Devil Fruit.
So, in three different SBSs, Oda hinted at three fascinating ideas:
Sanji’s eyebrows symbolize the energy generated by celestial bodies (Earth, Moon, and Sun);
This same circular energy resides in the Devil Fruits;
Sanji's heart (emotion) is probably what ignites his fire.
But if he already has a connection to the Sky/Heavens, fire, and circular energy, why did Oda also link him to Devil Fruits? Isn’t everything else enough already?
I mean, if we also consider everything we know about him, Sanji’s character already has a mix of seemingly unrelated traits:
A prince of an extinct kingdom
A genetically altered human
The cook of the Straw Hat crew
A hopeless romantic with the motif of the Knight
Can burst into flames when experiencing intense emotions
However, I believe that these traits, though scattered, may start to correlate if we speculate that Sanji's origins—and powers—are tied to a single, as-yet-unknown source, one that only Oda (and his team) are aware of. I will venture a guess on this in the next topic.
Sanji’s Race and the True Power of the Vinsmokes: Mutation
Building upon the points I've discussed, I propose the following theory:
A previously unidentified rare race existed, possessing the ability to manipulate circular energy because their origins are related to outer space. This advanced race visited the world of One Piece, sharing their knowledge and skills to empower its inhabitants and change their status quo so anyone could evolve and become who they dreamed to be. In its purest form, this energy manifests as fire, aligning with Vegapunk's assertion of fire's versatility as an energy source. However, it can be transformed into other forms, such as Devil Fruits, suggesting its true power lies in the ability to induce mutation. I hypothesize that Sanji, and potentially the entire Vinsmoke family, descends from this extraterrestrial or celestial race.
Although there is the possibility that Sanji has these abilities because of genetic modification, I don’t believe this is the case.
Let's revisit Judge and his duel with Sanji. During their confrontation, Judge witnessed Sanji utilizing Diable Jambe, yet he displayed no discernible surprise.
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It's important to remember that at this point in the narrative, Judge believed Sanji to be a "failed experiment" due to Sora's interference. Therefore, Sanji's actions during the duel did not sufficiently alarm Judge to question the possibility of genetic alterations in Sanji, similar to those undergone by Ichiji, Niji, Yonji, and Reiju.
Furthermore, upon acquiring his suit, Germa Sanji's intended ability was invisibility, not fire, as speculated by fans.
So if Sanji's fire abilities were not a product of Judge's scientific modifications, they must originate from his genetic inheritance—either from Sora or Judge.
While I personally favor the possibility of Sora as the source, I believe the origin lies within Judge himself. However, it stems from the aspect of his family that he vehemently denies and despises: the empathetic and emotional side that generates flames.
Oda has stated that Sanji's affinity for fire is rooted in his burning heart. More specifically, I believe this energy is activated by his capacity for love and passion, qualities absent in his brothers thanks to Judge. This is something I will talk about more in future topics.
Sanji, Devil Fruits and the Lineage Factor
Despite these speculations, we all know that Sanji's core essence remains his love and his passion for cooking.
Yet, even in the Baratie Arc, when the world of One Piece was still being introduced, Oda emphasized the connection between Sanji, cooking, and fire.
We observed Pearl, a henchman from Don Krieg's crew, spontaneously combusting in a fit of panic. This mirrors Sanji's current tendency to ignite when experiencing intense emotions. Interestingly, the SBS entry discussing Sanji's curly eyebrows appears in the same chapter as Pearl's fiery ability is shown.
While Pearl's abilities are likely fabricated (perhaps utilizing the pearls in his armor as flint), it's intriguing that Oda introduced this concept in Sanji's debut arc, subtly implying a chef's inherent connection to fire.
Therefore, Sanji's connection to fire is a foundational element established by Oda from the very beginning, and I believe it will play a pivotal role in his ultimate narrative arc.
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Notably, during his encounter with Ivankov, Sanji's training obviously focused less on traditional combat techniques—which he had mastered by himself—and more on acquiring the enigmatic 99 Recipes of Attack Cuisine.
To understand the significance of this emphasis, let's examine the sole recipe revealed in the manga: Hormone Soup with Sea Pork. Sanji prepared this dish at the conclusion of the Punk Hazard arc, demonstrating its remarkable ability to rejuvenate the consumer's energy and strength.
In some respects, Devil Fruits can be considered a unique type of food that alters an individual's state, similar to how these recipes function.
I'm not suggesting that the 99 Recipes and Devil Fruits are the same; they clearly do not. I am sugesting that both share a key similarity: both act as "magical foods" that alter the human body.
However, while the 99 Recipes are likely designed to enhance specific pre existent aspects of an individual's physique, Devil Fruits are depicted as agents of biological transformation, affecting humans, animals, and even inanimate objects.
This transformation occurs through the consumption of the fruit itself. Oda could have chosen alternative mediums for bestowing extraordinary powers, such as a spell book or a magical fountain (as seen in Pirates of the Caribbean). However, he deliberately selected food as the conduit, suggesting a deeper significance to food in his world and, by association, Sanji's role.
Nevertheless, I believe the biological transformation induced by Devil Fruits surpass any potential outcomes achievable through the 99 Recipes.
Once again, let’s go back to Vegapunk, who is credited with replicating Devil Fruits. Do you recall his observations regarding their significance?
That's right, Vegapunk asserted that Devil Fruits represent the potential for human evolution.
If you're familiar with the X-Men franchise lol, you're likely acquainted with the concept of mutation. While not exclusive to X-Men, this concept is grounded in scientific theory, particularly the work of Hugo de Vries and other pioneering geneticists. These scientists proposed that the driving force of evolution is mutation.
Mutations are defined as alterations in DNA.
From this perspective, Devil Fruits may function by inducing mutations within the user's DNA, enabling them to become embodiments of their innermost desires. Maybe this is how Vegapunk was finally able to produce the Artificial Devil Fruits.
However, while he is credited with its creation, it's crucial to remember his long standing collaboration with Judge. Yonji even acknowledged their joint discovery of the "Lineage Factor," which corresponds to what we understand as DNA.
Therefore, even though Vegapunk may receive credit for replicating Devil Fruits along with Caesar, I believe their essence—the profound connection to human evolution and DNA modification—is inextricably linked to his research conducted in collaboration with Judge.
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My theory posits that Vegapunk's insights into these concepts were significantly influenced by the Vinsmokes' centuries-old ability in manipulating DNA. Judge, with access to extensive data on the Vinsmoke lineage, likely provided it to the MADs Scientists.
However, the foundation of these abilities might predate scientific understanding, rooted in the Vinsmokes' inherent capacity to induce mutation through passionate, instinctual means.
Notably, Judge appeared more preoccupied with genetic modification and engineering than with Devil Fruits. He neither created nor utilized any Devil Fruits during the Whole Cake Island arc whilst most former MADS scientists, such as Caesar and even Vegapunk himself, continued their investigations into Devil Fruit production. This suggests that Judge may have viewed Devil Fruits as redundant, having already devised methods to achieve similar effects within his own children without direct reliance on them.
To recap, I believe Vegapunk's understanding of mutation and Devil Fruits was significantly shaped by Judge's scientific investigation into the Vinsmoke lineage's latent mutating potential. While Judge's ancestors may have activated these traits through intense emotions like passion, Judge sought to achieve greater control and predictability through scientific manipulation, "effectively" bypassing the need for emotions or instinct.
The reason I believe it is all connected steems from Thriller Bark arc, when Sanji erupted in a fiery rage at the prospect of Nami being forced into marriage. Zoro remarked, "He is about to transform into something." The kanji used for "transform" (変身 – henshin) was also used as "mutate" in some translations.
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So I believe that Sanji's outburst not only produced flames but also seemed to induce some type of "mutation" within his body. However, we probably still have not seen the final form of this transformation.
Interestingly, according to crepes-suzette-373, a Tumblr user who analyzes the manga in its original language, the Japanese verb used for this transformation is also associated with the concept of "henshin" in Kamen Rider, Sailor Moon and others.
So Sanji's rage, fueled by his love for Nami, ignited these fiery transformations.
This phenomenon might explain Judge's disdain for emotions like empathy and love. He likely perceived them as unreliable and uncontrollable catalysts for these mutations, potentially hindering his ultimate goals. By employing scientific methods, Judge sought to harness the Vinsmoke family's inherent mutative abilities while minimizing the influence of these perceived "weaknesses" – emotions like love.
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However, I firmly believe that Judge did not entirely suppress his children's emotions. You can find my detailed reasoning [here], and suzette has also presented their analysis based on the original Japanese translation [here]. In summary, I believe Judge's primary objective was to eradicate empathy, love, and the passion for life – the very qualities that define humanity – rendering his children more easily controlled and subservient to his brutal commands.
Sanji's flashback reveals that his "normal" human birth, with its capacity for love, led him to pursue interests deemed frivolous and detrimental to his father's ambitions and royal status, such as cooking. Judge appeared visibly frustrated by Sanji's unwavering dedication to these pursuits, despite numerous reprimands. I believe Judge concluded early on that love was a significant obstacle to his plans and actively sought to eradicate it within his children. Sanji's resistance to this conditioning further intensified Judge's animosity towards his son.
The events of the Whole Cake Island arc illustrate the devastating consequences of Judge's actions and beliefs. Deprived of love and passion, his children were nearly defeated, lacking the intrinsic motivation to fight for their survival. Ultimately, it was Sanji, driven by the fiery love ignited within his heart, who returned to save them, demonstrating the profound strength of human connection and the limitations of Judge's cold, calculated approach.
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Speaking of this love, let’s go to the next topic.
The Will of Love
To recap, Vegapunk was the one who gave us the information that Devil Fruits are connected to people’s desires and human evolution.
“Every Devil Fruit is a possibility for human evolution that someone desired. If only I could be like this… If only I could be like that. All of those powers represent the many branches of the future of humanity.”
I think that desire can be strongly associated with will. While desire is the emotional or internal longing for something, will represents the determination and action taken to pursue that goal.
Willpower is a crucial element in One Piece. I mean, the Will of D, right? Just like religious elements such as gods, devils, and forbidden fruits exist in One Piece, so does the concept of willpower.
According to the Oxford Dictionary, will is defined as:
The ability to control your thoughts and actions in order to achieve what you want; a feeling of strong determination to pursue something.
Willpower signifies the unwavering determination to pursue one's goals and dreams.
I believe Haki, particularly Conqueror's Haki, embodies this concept in the One Piece universe. In this world, an individual's will can attain such immense strength that it not only influences those around them but also defies the very laws of physics, altering the course of reality.
Is not mutation, at its core, a form of change, specifically a profound alteration at the DNA level?
I believe Sanji demonstrated this principle during his brief encounter with Kizaru in Egghead. Through sheer force of will, I think he defied the laws of physics by absorbing Kizaru's laser beam – a feat seemingly impossible, even within the extraordinary realm of One Piece.  Franky’s and Kizaru’s shocked expressions highlight just how incredible this moment really was (lol).
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However, in typical Sanji fashion, he attributed this extraordinary ability to the power of love. And I believe he is correct.
Love, though often dismissed as cheesy, is a potent force capable of driving individuals to achieve the seemingly impossible for the sake of others. Just as freedom fuels Luffy's unwavering will, I believe love serves as the driving force behind Sanji's extraordinary feats, empowering him to transcend human limitations and become both powerful and unpredictable.
He kind of said that in Thriller Bark, remember?
“A power that can’t be judged by ordinary means… A power to make the impossible possible. It’ll blow everything away. The name of that hurricane is… love.”
This inherent drive was absent in his brothers during the Whole Cake Island arc. They lacked the will, and indeed, the passion, to truly live and fight for the lives of others, even for their own father, Judge.
In contrast, Sanji consistently demonstrated this will. His unwavering determination to become a chef persisted even after months of imprisonment at the hands of his own father. This unwavering spirit enabled him to endure seventy days of starvation and maintain his lifelong dream of finding the All Blue.
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However, plagued by self-doubt, he temporarily suppressed this powerful will, feeling indebted to Zeff for saving a life Sanji deemed unworthy.
But Zeff, being the incredible father he is, made Sanji realize he shouldn’t hold himself back. Just like Luffy, Sanji possesses an unyielding will, which Zeff poetically describes as a spear of blind grit.
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Through this dialogue with Zeff, I believe that Oda subtly conveys to the readers that Sanji's greatest obstacle lies within himself. Despite his unwavering kindness and encouragement towards others, Sanji struggles with self-compassion, which frequently holds himself back from reaching his full potential.
However, Sanji is gradually overcoming this internal struggle. I think that his inaugural use of Ifrit Jambe exemplifies his growing ability to channel this "spear of blind grit" in accordance with his own moral compass. In Wano, he faced a critical juncture: he could enhance his combat abilities through the Raid Suit, but at the cost of becoming a cold, emotionless killing machine. Instead, he chose a path that aligned with his values, destroying the suit while still leveraging its enhancements, particularly the increased resistance to heat.
This experience suggests that Sanji's previous limitations were also physiological. With his enhanced physical resilience, he now possesses the potential to unleash even more potent flames, limited only by the intensity of his love and passion.
The greater his love, the hotter his flames burn—remember, Oda said his heart burns hotter!!
This powerful connection between love and Sanji is further reflected in his culinary pursuits.
Just by knowing the reasons he chose to be a cook, we know that cooking, for Sanji, is an act of love, a way to express his affection for others and appreciation of life.
Food is not just used to sustain life, it’s also a way to enjoy it. Look at how Luffy and his love for meat, and the fact that most of One Piece's arcs end in a feast. I'm sure that Oda himself also sees the importance of it. Like I said, he could have chosen various outlets to become the source of Power in the world he created, but he chose food.
Furthermore, because of the importance of food and the reason why he is a cook, Sanji's profound impact extends beyond the battlefield. He possesses a remarkable ability to influence and transform those around him, even individuals perceived as cruel, cold, or adversarial. Whether through the compassionate act of cooking or by simply adhering to his unwavering moral code based on love, he inspires profound change in those he encounters.
He has positively impacted the lives of numerous individuals, including Pudding, Gin, Viola, the Marines in Punk Hazard, and even, to a certain degree, Big Mom herself.
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So I believe that Willpower is the fundamental force behind the creation of Devil Fruits. Vegapunk himself stated that they are the physical manifestations of dreams, wishes, and desires – embodiments of will brought to life.
Wait, didn’t I previously say that the circular energy Oda mentioned in the SBS was what created the Devil Fruits?
That’s because I believe that Willpower and this circular energy are essentially the same phenomenon, simply described differently depending on the context. For example, the Skypieans refer to Haki as "Mantra" and the people from Wano call Armament Haki Ryuo.
For Sanji's (hypothetical) ancestral race, I think this power manifests in its purest, most versatile form: fire, which in turn can become many other things.
Interestingly, fire holds profound symbolic significance across various cultures besides just destruction.
In Christianity, it often represents God's presence, passionate will, and even the act of creation. The Holy Spirit is often symbolized as a flame as well.
Beyond religious contexts, fire-based powers in popular media frequently symbolize intense emotions, the life force (energy), and even the power of creation. Consider Avatar: The Last Airbender, when Zuko and Aang had to understand the significance of fire beyond its ability to destroy. Or look at X-Men and the Phoenix Force itself.
The Flame of Prometheus in Greek mythology offers another compelling example. It symbolizes the gift of knowledge, innovation, and enlightenment bestowed upon humanity by the Titan Prometheus, who defied the gods by stealing fire. This act represents the empowerment of humanity, enabling progress and civilization.
However, it also signifies the potential dangers of seeking forbidden knowledge, as Prometheus faced divine punishment for his actions. In a way, Devil Fruits can be seen as the "Prometheus flames" of the One Piece world, a powerful force of change that, while offering immense potential, also carries inherent risks, as if Nature itself (a parallel to the gods) deemed their existence a transgression and punishes the users of the Devil Fruits by making them unable to swim. I'm not kidding, this was Vegapunk's explanation to why Devil Fruit users can't swim.
Thus, fire transcends its association with anger and intensity. It also symbolizes transformation, energy, knowledge, and the very essence of life. This inherent versatility likely explains Vegapunk's fascination with harnessing fire as a sustainable energy source.
Let us not forget the Mother Flame, a concept of immense importance in the One Piece world and currently being exploited by the Gorosei and Imu for their own nefarious purposes.
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While I don't believe Sanji is a god (lol), I do believe he possesses an extraordinary connection to a powerful, ancient force that is related to Nika somehow.
To recap, my theory suggests that Devil Fruits were created by a race capable of manipulating Willpower, a force that allows them to shape reality, defy the laws of physics, and even induce mutations. This advanced civilization, possibly originating from a realm beyond our own, maybe from outer space, exerted a profound influence on the world, impacting the lives of fish-men, buccaneers, tontattas, humans, and countless other races.
Furthermore, I believe this race sought to use their advanced technology to uplift and improve the world. This era of technological and societal advancement likely coincides with the enigmatic Void Century, a period shrouded in mystery. The youtuber Artur, from the Ohara Youtube chanel already made a theory about what the One Piece is, and to understand it, he theorized what might have happened during the Void Century and before. Give it a look if you’d like.
Anyway, an intriguing connection emerges when considering the Sun God Nika. You might recall that Luffy, in his Nika form, exhibits the same distinctive spiral pattern in his eyebrows as Sanji. This striking similarity might not be mere coincidence.
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Furthermore, recent cover stories have revealed that Judge himself possesses eyebrows identical to Luffy's. This observation once again strongly suggests that the curly eyebrow trait is not a result of Judge's genetic enhancements, but rather a hereditary characteristic of the Vinsmoke lineage.
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This line of reasoning is what leads me to speculate that the Vinsmokes might be descendants of this ancient, technologically advanced civilization, potentially even possessing a diluted fraction of their power.
Maybe the Vinsmokes and Nika are both from the same race (and Nika was simply the most powerful among them and revered as a god) or Nika himself created that race. But this is a theory to be explored in other posts.
So, where do I think this will lead Sanji? Before answering that, I want to address another important (religious) motif—one that has been present in Sanji’s arc since day one and which I’ve been saving for now:
The Devil and Angels
Early in their introduction, Sanji made a profound declaration to Nami, vowing to do anything for her, even if it meant becoming the Devil himself.
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This declaration is further emphasized by his signature moves: Diable Jambe (Devil in French) and its more powerful iteration, Ifrit Jambe.
Moreover, his associated animal is a horned sheep, and the Mink accompanying him during his UFO-gazing expedition may be a goat – both animals carrying significant symbolism related to the Devil in Christian beliefs.
Finally, Sanji's iconic proclamation after defeating Jabra, "God created food. But the Devil created the spices," explicitly acknowledges his own association with the Devil.
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So, I think Oda might also be referencing Sanji as some type of Fallen Angel—a creature who fell from the skies after defying devine authority.
While I personally find this interpretation somewhat unsettling (I'm not particularly fond of the idea of comparing Sanji to Lucifer lol), I believe Oda has been subtly hinting at this "Devilish" motif throughout Sanji's character arc. And I have a few reasons to back this up.
First, I believe Oda employs a subtle pattern throughout the series, drawing parallels between the Monster Trio and key figures or symbols from religions of Asia, Europe and America.  Obviously, it’s not a strict rule, but I’m confident that many of their most significant moves and titles follow this pattern.
Luffy, embodying the spirit of the Sun God Nika, draws significant inspiration from pre-Columbian American religions, particularly those of the Incas, Mayans, and Aztecs. Keep in mind that Luffy would canonically be Brazilian (even though Brazil wasn’t part of those specific cultures, it is still an American country). Also, the Sun God Nika in One Piece was referenced by the Shandians, a culture clearly inspired by these civilizations. Zoro, with his name inspired by an Indian pirate, his connection to the Ashura (Indian ), and his possession of the sword "Enma" (named after the Japanese King of the Underworld), reflects influences from East Asian religions and cultures. In contrast, Sanji's character appears to draw inspiration from European and Middle Eastern mythology, particularly Christian imagery, hinting at a possible connection to the Fallen Angel archetype.
Furthermore, I believe the term "Devil" in the One Piece world might not always refer to inherently evil beings. Instead, it might be used to describe those who defy established authority and challenge the status quo. Consider the fate of the Ohara archaeologists – individuals who dared to question the official narrative and were subsequently branded as "devils" and brutally suppressed by the World Government.
In reality, I believe the true "devils" are those who wield immense power while masquerading as saviors or gods, engaging in unspeakable acts of cruelty. It is worth noting that the Gorosei, the enigmatic rulers of the world, utilize teleportation techniques that involve symbols strikingly similar to pentagrams.
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And with this, I believe that these self-entitled gods—those who place themselves above others—would inevitably awaken the fury of someone like Sanji.
He would willingly take on the role of an antagonist to these so-called gods.  Ironically, despite this rebellious stance, Sanji ultimately serves the true "God" – his captain, Luffy, the embodiment of the Sun God Nika and follows morals that in many ways follow the Christian faith. But this is something to talk about in other posts.
Therefore, while perceived as a "Devil" by those in power, Sanji's actions are ultimately driven by a profound sense of justice and loyalty, aligning him more closely with the archetype of an angel who ultimately serves a higher, noble purpose.
This interpretation gains further credence when examining a specific panel from the Skypiea arc. In this scene, Sanji declares that he will assume the role of the "Blue Demon of the Seas" if the man who considers himself a god (referencing Enel) dares to harm Nami.
It's crucial to note that many translations inaccurately render the term as "monster" instead of "demon." However, several fans, including crepes-suzette, have correctly identified the kanji used in the original Japanese text as the same one that signifies "demon," a term Sanji himself previously employed during his initial encounter with Nami.
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Robin’s duality of angelic and demonic attributes is clearly exemplified in her character. Despite being labeled the "Devil Child" from a young age, likely due to her possession of a Devil Fruit, she embodies both qualities.
Even before the incident in Ohara, Robin carried this title, and while I don't rememebr her correcting anyone who called her as such it wasn’t until Wano that she fully embraced it. During her fight against Black Maria, she transformed into a fearsome, demonic entity to protect Sanji—a moment of self-realization where she gained full control over her powers.
However, Robin had previously displayed an angelic side of her abilities, such as when she created wings to help Franky in Thriller Bark.
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I believe that Robin's metamorphosis during her fight against Black Maria was a moment of self-realization—a transformation she learned to control using her Devil Fruit powers.
In Wano, her demonic transformation wasn’t just a means of victory—it was a deliberate message to those who threaten her loved ones. By fully embracing the "Devil" title and its terrifying form, Robin demonstrated her resolve to protect those she cares about, mirroring Sanji’s own willingness to sacrifice everything for Nami.
Let us not forget that the very name Oda gave these fruits is "Devil's Fruits."
Perhaps they are called that because they were created by enemies of the government/Imu ("devils"), and the government simply chose a fearsome name to deter people from consuming them.
The kanji for "Devil" (魔) that Sanji uses for his moves (and when he promised he would become a devil for Nami) is the same used for the Devil Fruits (悪魔の実) and for Demon Child (悪魔の子). However, unlike Robin, Sanji's association with the devil motif has no direct connection to Devil Fruits, as he never consumed one. Therefore, I see no reason for him to use this motif other than Oda intentionally connecting him to the race that created (or, more accurately, "cooked") the Devil Fruits.
Lastly, in Egghead, we must remember the significant panel where Saturn appears to undergo a transformation, becoming even more monstrous than before. Through Sanji, we gain insight into Saturn's loss of humanity—an interesting narrative choice by Oda.
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Now, it all leads to what might happen to Sanji and what he might mutate into.
Sanji’s Transformation
To understand better what Oda might be planning for Sanji, I’d like to reference other important transformations that many superheroes and characters from popular shows have gone through, especially those related to intense emotions or powers tied to flames:
Jean Grey Phoenix: holds back her power, which manifest as flames
Kamen Rider: has transformations related to his intense emotions
Asura’s Wrath: his anger, rooted in his love for his daughter, ignited his Berzerk transformation
Kevin Levin: motivated by the love to protect his friends he became a powerful, yet psychopathic monster
Since the themes mentioned above have been explored by many writers for their characters, Oda might also adopt similar concepts for Sanji’s development. Let’s talk about them in more detail below — if you are not interested, you may just skip this part lol WATCH OUT FOR SPOILERS OF THE MENTIONED STORIES.
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In the Marvel Universe, the Phoenix Force is one of the oldest known cosmic entities, said to predate darkness and the universe. It is considered the spark that ignites creation and the flame that consumes it, perpetuating the cycle of life, death, and rebirth. In many media portrayals, Jean Grey, the Phoenix’s most well-known host, must hold back this power because it's deemed too dangerous. In her case, Jean must train not to become stronger, but to restrain her immense powers and control them — it depends on which X-Men adaptation though.
Next, Kamen Rider, which seems to be a significant inspiration for much of Sanji’s lore. Kamen Rider Black, the main hero who was turned into a mutant by an evil organization resembling Germa (and indirectly, the Nazis), was killed and later revived as Kamen Rider Black RX. Through intense emotions, Kamen Rider RX transforms into two distinct forms based on his feelings. When he is enraged, he becomes the Prince of Flames, and when he is filled with sorrow for humanity, he transforms into the Prince of Sadness. In these states, he gains different abilities.
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In Asura’s Wrath, the protagonist undergoes a fury-driven transformation after losing someone dear to him. His rage drives him to go berserk against the self-proclaimed “gods” responsible for the attack that killed his loved one. This kind of intense emotional reaction mirrors Sanji’s potential path, where his love could trigger a similar rage-based transformation when someone he cares about deeply is in danger. In the process he could become more cruel.
Finally, in Ben 10 Alien Force, Kevin Levin possesses powers related to energy absorption due to his alien ancestry. He faces an enemy of the same race, and when his friends, particularly the girl he likes, are in danger, Kevin uses his powers (in a dangerous way) to save them. However, this power comes with a cost: as he uses it incorrectly, he risks going insane. Kevin’s eventual turn into an antagonist demonstrates how overwhelming power can lead to a loss of control, paralleling Sanji’s potential struggle with his cruel side, especially when his genetic modifications take hold.
Given these examples, I can see Oda following a similar narrative path for Sanji. My guess is that Sanji will undergo two distinct transformations, with love being the catalyst for both.
The Blue Demon of the Sea Science
The first transformation will likely be a dark, evil persona, where Sanji allows his mutant genes to take over, making his flames burn hotter. This form could mirror the Dark Phoenix (the corrupted side of the Phoenix) or Kevin Levin's monstrous state.
This transformation might resemble Saturn’s metamorphosis, where Sanji becomes more powerful but loses the very emotions—his love and passion—that initially motivated him. In this state, Sanji might temporarily become an antagonist, possibly aligning with Germa’s science and his brothers' ruthless behavior. Eventually, Zoro may be forced to fight him, fulfilling their pact. In this form, Sanji may take on a more devilish appearance.
Heavenly Warrior of Love
For the second transformation, I believe Sanji will overcome his modified genes through his love—probably for Nami. This might lead to him mutating into a more celestial form, perhaps even resembling a Garuda (a mythical bird from Hindu and Buddhist iconography and the other name Judge has). Suzette has an insightful analysis of the Germa Kingdom's imagery as well as the holy fire and more—I recommend checking it out if you're interested!
In Thriller Bark, we already know something like this happened when Sanji's shadow was placed inside the corpse of a penguin/dog.
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Because Moria, who performed the transfer, did not know Sanji's true strength, he used a weak body. This led to a surprise for most of Moria's henchmen, as Penguin Sanji demonstrated immense will.
However, what shocked them the most was Sanji overcoming his programming and refusing to hurt Nami when it was implied he had to. Sanji himself said it was due to the power of love, so I’m sure Oda will revisit a moment like this again, but on a much larger scale.
Though I prefer to stick to official material from the manga, there is an intriguing moment in the One Piece Pirate Warriors game where Sanji is overpowered by an external force that drives him to act evil. However, when he is forced to hurt Robin, he stops because his moral code—especially his vow never to kick a woman—proves stronger than any external influence. This shows just how deeply rooted his values are and how much they shape his actions, regardless of the power that might control him.
We saw how in Egghead, the motif of how love overcomes science was shown through a lot of characters, I.e. Seraphim Hancock when she decided to help the Straw Hats because of original Hancock's love to Luffy and Kuma overcoming his programing to save his daughter, Bonney.
So, I imagine Oda could use this idea (of Sanji fighting against any genetic programming/science) in the manga on a much larger scale.
Visually, for his transformations, I imagine Sanji's entire body could burst into bluish flames (not just his legs), taking on an inhuman silhouette during moments of extreme emotion. I think this fits with a few moments in the manga where he bursts into flames, and his hair even seems to turn into horns.
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Also, can you imagine if this state—since it pushes his hair upward—revealed both of his eyes?
Maybe in his second transformation, he gains control over both his modified and inherited genes, visually symbolized by his eyebrows.
Let's remember, the eyebrows change direction when activating his genes (I still don’t fully understand how they work, but that’s an analysis for another time, lol). In his normal human state, they point left. But what if he finds equilibrium, and his eyebrows become symmetrical?
Notice how Judge's eyebrows, like Nika's, are actually symmetrical.
It’s just speculation, but it would be fun to see, hehe.
With Sanji’s incredible speed, if you saw him moving from afar, he’d resemble a shooting star streaking across the sky. A bit like the animation for Todoroki when he uses his fire powers for the first time
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To conclude, there’s something else about Sanji that might connect him to the Heavens:
The All Blue
Yes, I’m going there.
My main theory remains that the All Blue is located in Fishman Island but still needs to “transform” into the All Blue after Luffy destroys the Red Line. However, let’s set that aside for now and focus on an interesting video I found by a Japanese fan who translates the One Piece manga, Dawn&Dusk.
He made a video that talked about the All Blue and discovered something so intriguing that I’m starting to consider another possibility.
In the video, the youtuber points out a draft from Oda where Zeff talks about the All Blue. However, what he says is quite different from what we read in the final version of the manga.
Zeff states:
"I’ve already lost my traveling companions. I don’t want to continue the journey with anyone but them. They were precious fools who accompanied me for a silly legend (...) That place transcends this world. In a year of sailing, I saw the possibility of All Blue in that place."
The translator explained that the kanji used for "transcend" carries the connotation of “greatly surpassing common sense, being exceptionally outstanding, and achieving something considered ‘impossible.’” It also suggests a state far removed from mundane affairs.
The translator speculated that the All Blue and Laugh Tale might exist in another dimension—a place beyond the world of One Piece. You can watch it and see what you think!
In my opinion, this could change a lot of things, especially regarding Oda’s plans for Sanji. Many have theorized that the All Blue symbolizes a new era of unity and freedom, and I think that’s Oda’s goal. But what if the All Blue is more than that? What if it already exists, but is in another world—a sort of Heaven, accessible only to gods or spirits, that will eventually be brought to Earth?
It’s somewhat similar to The Legend of Korra, season 2, whose universe has a spirit world, accessible through a portal, until the Avatar merges it with the physical world. Or even the world that Chihiro is transported to in Spirited Away.
I know it sounds unlikely, but that’s the fun part, right? I don’t really care about being right; I just enjoy how Oda has created so many intriguing elements around one character that we can endlessly analyze.
Even if I don’t agree with how he resolves some narrative elements, it’s always curious to see where he’ll take us next. So let’s keep reading and guessing! I hope you had fun reading my theory.
Also, knowing Oda, I wouldn’t be surprised if many of these connections were just happy coincidences he came up with on the spot.
I remember an interview where Taz Skylar said he asked Oda a lot about One Piece (and Sanji), and most of the answers were simply, “Because I thought it would be cool.” lol
I'm sure I'm seeing a lot of things that Oda didn't really intend to have a deeper meaning, but since he hasn’t confirmed them, everything is possible, right? And I don't think it takes away the fact that some of the things he wrote, Oda was indeed planning for a long time.
Anyway, what would your crazy theory about Sanji be? Or maybe about Nami, or even both? Let me know!
For Sanji I still haven't brought up what his role to the story of One Piece could be, I’m still trying to gather my thoughts about this, so let me know if you are interested and I will post something in the future.
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