#nazis in ukraine

[workersolidarity]

Politico defending LITERAL WWII Nazis.

Politico seriously suggests there is "nuance" around Yaroslav Hunka's joining of the Nazi 14th Waffen SS Grenadier Division (1st Galicia) to fight the Soviet Union and, like Canadian commentators over the last few days, suggests no war crimes were committed by this Division.

That's COMPLETE AND UTTER LUNACY.

The Nazi Germany 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS was NOTORIOUS for SLAUGHTERING their way through Ukraine, enthusiastically participating in the genocide of Poles, Roma, Jews, and Socialists/Communists

These people are manipulating history and your ignorance of it to make Nazis go from black and white obvious evil, to shades of grey in which you're not "expert" enough to have an opinion on, thereby weakening efforts to expose fascist ideology being integrated into Western society.

[harminfo]

Shitlibs be like ... “but ... but ...”

[brw]

"but hamas is getting funded by extremist islamic hate groups!" do you think the U.S. government and military giving funding for israeli's war efforts against palestinians is a morally neutral and inherently righteous body that had no influence in the politics of southwest asia as a global colonial superpower. do you really think anything you can say about the people resisting oppression can't be said about the oppressors.

[septictankie]

[unhonestlymirror]

[odinsblog]

For someone who supposedly wants to “denazify”Ukraine, Putin sure does a lot of Hitler apologia.

This isn't the first time Vladimir Putin has been repeating this Nazi propaganda that Poland somehow forced Hitler to invade other countries. Putin has been regurgitating this same old Nazi rhetoric for years, but thanks to one of history's biggest useful idiots, Tucker Carlson, an untold number of tankies + other assorted ignoramuses will believe Putin’s revisionist Hitler apologia.

SN: Strangely enough, Benjamin Netanyahu also engages in the same Holocaust revisionism and Nazi apologia

Anyway, if you’re still dumb + gullible enough to believe that Putin invaded Ukraine to denazify it, or because of NATO, then please send me your full name, phone number, email address, home address, birthdate, ssn, credit card numbers and all of your bank details and social media passwords. I just want to help you out with something. Believe me. The same way you believe Putin :)

👉🏿 https://www.dispropaganda.com/single-post/2020/06/20/putin-blames-poland-for-the-invasion-of-poland

[ukraineblr]

Dnipro after missile attack by russian nazis.

[allthecanadianpolitics]

This may be worse than what the US did.

[botanyshitposts]

I'm crazy sad. Like, had to pull over sad... just heard on the radio that the seed repository in Ukraine has been destroyed in a round of shelling.

Would you consider talking about seed repositories and the tragic losses we face when one is damaged? (Submitted by @sfiddy)

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Oh, yeah. this is one that always comes to mind for me when war happens, but i kind of avoid talking about it because it seems so secondhand when compared to the human suffering of war. like, i doubt the people fleeing ukraine are super concerned about the seeds in their city. but still, it's vitally important.

the purpose of seed banks, public or private, is to act as a repository for genetic diversity. for those not acquainted at all, a seed bank is a place where scientists/researchers/horticulturalists/etc put collections of seeds in a freezer and care for them with the intention of keeping them alive in dormancy for as long as possible. it's important (to me at least) to note the purpose of seed vaults, because there are several: the biggest one, which attracts the most funding and public support, is the preservation of crops and crop diversity, from large brands to small local varieties to heirloom stuff. the secondary one is the preservation of biodiversity: the protection of seeds that are on the brink of becoming extinct (important note here: not all seeds can be stored in a bank. many orchid seeds, for instance, are called 'recalcitrant seeds', meaning that they can't really be stored conventionally in a freezer for long before they die, just because of how the seed is built. figuring out how to store these seeds is a whole other Deal).

for the purposes of this, i'm gonna focus on the crop section of things. a good example is, ironically, the introduction of 'turkey red winter wheat', a kind of cold-tolerant, drought-tolerant, high-yielding wheat brought over to the US by ukrainian immigrants in 1874. the immigrants were mennonites who were opposed to military service on the basis of their religion, but the russian empire where they lived had lost a war, and the new occupants of the area planned to force them to serve. they left for the american great plains-- for those unacquainted, a notoriously difficult to farm area of the US, known for the dry climate, the dust bowl, and various crises around water that have kind of plagued the area for over a hundred years now. in addition to their seeds, the immigrants also brought over knowledge about how to farm extremely dry environments. as it turns out, the american west wasn't so different from their local area of ukraine in terms of the crops it could grow, and turkey red wheat was the first kind of wheat that could really be grown in the american west with any kind of success. for a while after it was a go-to variety, even when all the american-bred crops failed there. this was pre-modern breeding, too-- heirloom seeds. even after more hardy wheat reached the west, breeders still bred turkey red into new varieties. you can still find it today, although it isn't nearly as prevalent as it used to be.

let's say that the ukrainian seed bank destroyed in the war had a variety of local crops (which...it most likely did), and that a number of those were uniquely suited to dry, cold environments. if something happened, and the crops currently being grown in the american west failed, be it due to the water in the watershed running out, climate change, or disease targeting the most popular brand of crop that season, breeders could go to the seed bank-- where workers would have been monitoring the seeds for years, growing them out and producing new seed to replace the old when needed-- and would have 'new' diverse genetic material to breed into more well-adapted crops. climate change is huge for this, too. we need crops that are hardier, more accustomed to extreme environments, resistant to new diseases, pests, and conditions, etc. and this is without considering the soul-crushing part of it: that these seeds, which were probably grown in the same family or community for generations, having been tailor-made years before for a certain set of circumstances before finding their way in part to the seed bank as farmers moved to more modern commercial seed, could just be ended. like, they could just go extinct, and then it's gone forever.

(side note: this is such a loving, meticulous, careful part of humanity that even if they couldn't be bred into new crops, i still think they would be worth saving. it reminds me of the corn grown by mexican peoples pre-colonization, where many different areas, having successfully created corn from grass after 9,000 years of intense breeding, had their own specific, specially-bred variety of maize, not only to suit their needs but to have as a part of their identity and culture. these are still grown today, and you can find some of them-- as well as maize varieties from many other native peoples, the long shadow of colonization aside-- in seed banks!)

a finishing note: thinking about this kind of thing always makes me wonder if this would be a cause worth dying for in a life or death situation. i know that sounds weird to the point where out of context it sounds glib and tasteless, but... it has happened before.

the leningrad seed bank was the largest in the world at it's time (in 1941), with about a quarter of a million different kinds of seeds stored inside. during the siege of leningrad in world war two, soviet botanist nikoli vavilov and his team of seed researchers protected the seeds for the entire 3 year siege, literally taking shifts guarding them. they refused to eat any of it, even as the nazis had cut off food supplies. nine of them died from starvation. i don't know what i would do in that situation and honestly my advice to any person not myself dying of starvation in a seed bank would be to eat the fucking seeds because human lives come first, but vavilov and his team obviously thought differently. the seeds from the collection eventually fell into SS hands and ended up at the nazi seed bank, the SS institute for plant genetics (???? you would think they would be against that kind of thing given the egregious eugenics????)... but i can't help but wonder if any of them still survive, either in herbarium form (where the seeds would be dead, but kept for reference or scientific study) or as a living line grown out every so often for fresh seed.

But yeah, there you go. the good news is that seed banks often share seeds between each other, meaning that i have no doubt that at least some of the seeds in that seed bank were survived by other banks around the world.... and, the best news: newer reports say that they only destroyed the seeds that were above ground about to be planted, not the seeds that are still being stored in an underground bunker forming the majority of the collection. apparently this same seed bank has survived world war two... i kind of wonder if some of vavilov's stuff was (or is) there.

[workersolidarity]

Remember what they say kids, there are no Nazis in Ukraine...

[missmayhemvr]

i reblogged a post where someone decide if trump died america would suddenly be "cured" and china would "back off taiwan" and "russia would fall to ukraine" and like ya'll gotta fucking stop that shit. you guys truly have to stop this liberal nonsense. the fact that person thought all these "ills" would be cured by trump dying is fucking ridiculous but also the fact the genocide of palestinians wasnt even a consideration needs to start clicking with people.

Why would they think so much about this mythical taiwan invasion that hasnt fucking happened, and a war america has been pushing to start for literal decades(not singular since i was a fucking child), but the mass murder of palestinians, and congolese people didnt even come up? or the mass displacement of sudanese people?

whats the link there? would you like to hazard a guess?

its shit america fucking wants! trump biden, fbi, cia, up and down the whole system. stop fucking uplifting the rabid fucking imperialist.

STOP DOING AMERICAN PROPAGANDA FOR FUCKING FREE

trump is literally only evil to you guys because he has no decorum nothing else, biden has his fucking platform you absolute ghouls.

[justacynicalromantic]

In USSR knowing foreign languages was a privilege of very selected few. Borders were closed and 99,9% of the population never ever visited any other country in their whole lives. Most did not ever travel beyond borders of their home region.

I was born in 1991 in Luhansk, the year Ukraine became Independent.

When it was time for me to enter my 1st grade, my mother selected for me a school that specialized in foreign languages - it was her belief and hope that soon many foreign languages would soon spread in our country, as business would enter and economy would flow, so knowing languages, especially English, would be a good boost for my career. Like any mother, she wanted a bright future for her daughter.

I - an ordinary child from a rather not-well-off family - traveled to Paris on a trip organized by my French teacher in my high school.

In university, I got into a program of language studying in China for a year - as part of many collaboration programs our university had with many other universities throughout the world.

All that was possible in our rather small administrative centre town with a population of some 500k people.

All these things were unfathomable for my mother and everyone else who grew up in the USSR.

I graduated Uni in 2013.

My mom could not have ever predicted that one year after my graduation, a whole war would start and we would lose our home.

And that the most common way my foreign language skills would serve me in life - would be writing posts on the Internet, telling the world about it.

[newsfromstolenland]

The speaker of Canada’s House of Commons resigned Tuesday for inviting a man who fought for a Nazi military unit during World War II to Parliament to attend a speech by the Ukrainian president.

Just after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy delivered an address in the House of Commons on Friday, Canadian lawmakers gave 98-year-old Yaroslav Hunka a standing ovation when Speaker Anthony Rota drew attention to him. Rota introduced Hunka as a war hero who fought for the First Ukrainian Division.

Observers over the weekend began to publicize the fact that the First Ukrainian Division also was known as the Waffen-SS Galicia Division, or the SS 14th Waffen Division, a voluntary unit that was under the command of the Nazis.

Full article

Tagging: @allthecanadianpolitics

[isaacsapphire]

After half a decade of "Nazi Punching Discourse" in the US and internationally and a war that was justified by the invader as being "anti Nazi", it needs to be explicitly stated;

Calling any person Nazi is an implicit threat of physical violence.

Labeling a belief or idea Nazi is an implicit argumentum ad baculum.

[rootless-cosmopolitan]

Me, a Ukrainian Jew who can actually read Russian, when I see Westerners still ranting about Nazis and Azov and Bandera in Ukraine: 

Move on babes, that was like five invasion justifications ago. Now it’s biolabs Russophobia Donbas mechanized insects a holy war against neo-satanism and the degenerate gay West. I’m not joking.

[unhonestlymirror]

"They saw Azovstal and bombed-out high-rise buildings. I think we did the right thing by showing it to our children."

A russian family flaunts the destroyed Mariupol in front of their children. Another generation of murderers, rapists and looters is being raised in russia.