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team7-headquarter · 6 months
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ANGRY NARUTO PROTECTS
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beanghostprincess · 18 days
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How bad do you think Franky's abandonment issues are? Do you think he spent the first few months he was with Tom terrified that he was going to do something wrong and Tom was going to abandon him like his parents did?
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What happened to hello 😭 This is so painful all of a sudden out of nowhere-- But I love angst so I kind of appreciate it, ngl.
I do think Franky has pretty bad abandonment issues and also pretty awful self-esteem and guilt inside him. But he is also a person who has been able to build a reputation and a family on his own surrounded by people who actually do care about him despite everything, and he is pretty damn independent in that field.
But now (especially after Sabaody) even if the strawhats are strong, there is always this fear of losing them. All of the crew shares this feeling but Franky is after all one of the most emotional (despite his rational thinking, these things can go hand in hand) and cherishes family bonds like nobody. So of course he fears they're going to leave at some point because he lived all of his childhood believing the same thing and blaming himself.
Franky has people to rely on now, more than ever. Robin understands what it feels like to be left out and seen as a monster and Franky teaches her that no matter what, her existence could never be wrong. His bond with Usopp is just-- Perfect and I still believe he feels guilty for what happened between them at first but now it's just them being genuinely close. I'd like to see more of him and Sanji, too, especially after the Wano thing. And in general, Franky has close bonds with everybody around him and it's noticeable because he is a family man and because I feel he does this to make everybody feel included and loved. He makes his fear of being abandoned a strength, because this way he understands others better and makes them all feel part of the family.
So to answer this, yes, I think his abandonment issues are pretty damn bad but he learns to be (and makes him feel better) the one supporting and helping others instead. Franky is a after all a very protective person when it comes to the people he loves and now I feel like his only fear is them being taken away from him rather than him being abandoned by them. But feelings are not rational so Franky wondering and asking Robin (because they're married. I swear. I saw it) if they're going to leave him in a vulnerable moment is pretty plausible. I think it'd take a while before he opens up like that, though, because I feel he doesn't want to be a burden and prefers to be the one comforting others. But !!!!!!! I agree.
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earlgreybocchan · 23 days
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Me when I think my dad is cool and admirable
#the previous earl lost the game lol#like i think if ciel's dad came back from the dead instead of ciel prime that ciel would have the same im the earl reaction#i don't have a reading of this narrative at all that he's trying to be his dad or wants sebastian to be his dad bc number one i think...#...vincent only looks like sebastian bc that's yana's art style and number two it also gets on my nerves the really fandom-y brain to...#...assign found family into actual nuclear family roles. when ciel's whole house now is made up of relationships that are really only...#...defined by how much they all love each other. it's the opposite of what his life was like before where he was stuck in like. an older...#...brother does this and marries this and the watchdog does this and rich people are expected to be like this and a family is a nuclear...#...kind of family unit and that's honestly what caused madam red and ciel and ciel prime a lot of their problems pre fire#now instead the people in ciel's house care about their roles as maid and gardener and chef etc only insofar as playing that role is a...#...way to have freedom for them and it's a way to do things for ciel only bc they love him. not that vincent and rachel completely sucked...#...and didn't love their kids but it was the opposite of ciel's situation now and uh i don't think he wants it back or to recreate it#i think he sees his parents and the midfords as sheep just like of the rest of the rich people he complains about#it's a category 10 albert moriarty situation#he was raised in it so he understands just how destructive these expectations are madam red had the exact problems with the expectation...#...she should get married and have kids when i don't think she particularly wanted that to the point she had to convince herself she did...#...even though it felt unnatural to her and i think that's why she was so attached to the idea of vincent but anyway comphet madam red...#...different post i have already made somewhere probably#it's the same deal for ciel i think he thinks the way the rich people govern their lives is stupid and sebastian has both spoiled him and...#...made him feel like he's above all that and honestly that mindset genuinely informs a lot of this arc and the sheep motif#kuroshitsuji#my kuro posts#ciel
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voidedjuice · 9 months
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I like found family that's like, "these characters have grown incredibly close in a profound way, becoming a home to each other".
I dislike found family that's like, "this character is the mom and this one the dad :) these are their children who are siblings :)) if you ship any of them that's literally incest, even though they're not related at all and don't ever even refer to each other like that in canon"
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anonymous-dentist · 4 months
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Your so right that people (phil fans) keep trying to force the whole nuclear family thing. I love that guy though, but I am suffering. You should have seen my blocked tags on ao3 back in the dsmp days. I beg. Not everyone has to be his kid. Let him have close friendships with other islanders.
Sorry for ranting at you, I'm just tired of it tbh.
The idea of close adult platonic friendships is so foreign to so many people that it almost makes me worried lol, like these are the types of people to assign a female friend to be the “Mom Friend” just because she like. Carries hand sanitizer on her.
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namisweatheria · 5 months
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Huge fan of characters not changing how they refer to each other no matter how close they get. Huge fan of character's bond not requiring labels. Huge fan of stories that don't use normative bio family terminology as the ultimate expression of closeness. Huge fan of when characters are home to each other without conforming to nuclear family roles.
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scattered-winter · 8 months
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I know the fandom loves to see adam as the Team Mom since shiro is seen as the Team Dad but honestly. if anything. he's the team Wine Aunt
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lelianaslefthand · 19 days
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i just remembered how after release i kept seeing popular posts saying how the bg3 crew arent a found family and even though i havent seen anyone say it in a while i still got annoyed bc that group of freaks is quite literally one of the best examples of found family i can think of and i genuinely dont know why so many people thought otherwise
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itkrnowsyou · 1 year
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every once in a while you have to get jumpscared by an elias acts like jon’s dad tweet/post/anything pick your jaw off the ground and let it sit in a jar for a while
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Weird how fandoms take a "found family" and immediately start assigning everyone nuclear family roles. That feels super restrictive to me. Like isnt the appeal of found family the premise that the closest people in your life dont have to be related to you by blood? If so why do we need to make everyone exactly like a traditional blood related family except some characters are Legally Adopted? Thats not the only family structure that exists.
#shut up pandora#like yes there are characters that are obviously parental figures to others#but sometimes a character is just...older...#and reducing their relationship to younger characters as parental misses a lot of the nuance#and reduces the older character to a stereotypical nagging mother#and infantilizes the younger character#especially when theyre poc like look what yall did to lucretia adventurezone#meanwhile sometimes characters do have the dynamic of siblings raised together#luz and hunter have the biggest sibling energy and viewing their relationship as not that feels weird#but also sometimes characters are just. a flavor of friends?#siblings get Like That bc when you have to see someone at dinner in an hour you quickly learn nothing you do to each other is a big deal#yall sometimes characters tease each other bc theyre friends#that being said i have some found family hcs that do assign nuclear family roles#but im not going around connecting everyones found family trees like a genealogy chart#ppl who decide characters have a sibling dynamic and then use that to tell others they cant ship something are REALLY fucking annoying#babygirl learn how incest actually works before you slap that on ships you dont like#idk i like jokes about how phoenix wright has like 8 kids#but most of them arent his kids theyre just his posse of weird little girls and thats a unique relationship dynamic on its own#i also like the characterization of maya seeing nick as an older brother bc shes used to being SOMEONES little sister and mias dead#my rule of thumb is the found family only has nuclear family labels when it adds to their characterization#wammawink centaurworld infantilizing her adult herd and calling herself their mother bc she protected them when most of them were kids?#that adds to her character#merle and davenport being the starblaster crews dads and everyone else being siblings and thats the only dynamic they have?#thats not canon and also doesnt add to their characters#but also nuclear family labels are also valid when its funny#wright and edgeworth are married and they collectively have 13+ children between them#also a lot of found families are queer and im sure lots of irl queers want to or are in nuclear families#but historically society has prevented us from doing that so queer found families are often like. close friends and community members#twisting that into legally recognized nuclear family units just feels like feeding into heteronormativity but thats just me#like we made the non conventional found family our thing but now we have to paint it in 1950s familial terms to Appease The Straights
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temperamentalaquarius · 3 months
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Idk if we want to say Dick is a bad sibling because he made a decision that Tim didn't like, or because he didn't like Cass as batgirl originally I feel like we're ignoring the the following:
a. He is a just a person who is capable of reacting/acting poorly especially under duress and it's not fair to expect him to be perfect and/or kind every second of every day just because he's older
b. Just because someone was hurt by an act(ie Damian becoming Robin) does not mean that the actual act itself was an inherently bad or cruel one
c: The literally unquantifiable amount of effort and support he's gone out of his way(because to be clear, he quite seriously did NOT have to) to pour into them
d: he has as much of a right to disagree and argue as anyone else
None of this to say that he's not capable of being an asshole, he absolutely is(as are we all, tho) but a 'bad sibling'? Nah. Honestly if we want to have a serious conversation about family dynamics wrt to Dick n the batfam, we're gonna have to talk about how found family is not about assigning ppl roles based on the nuclear family format, why y'all seem to think that it is only ever the older sibling that owes something to the younger ones AND that every single one of Dick's siblings(including Cass and Tim) have put hands on him outside of combat/training situations but they seem to get 1/8th the scrutiny he does for being mean a handful of times, but I honestly don't think that this community is ready for that kind of heat ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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mcytblrconfessions · 1 month
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I hate the fandom "we must make everyone in this found family a nuclear family" thing and assigning everyone roles as much as anyone else so it bothers me when I see me and my siblings in two characters but everyone else headcanoning them as siblings is just saying "well they banter so..." without actually analysing their characters beyond that. and THAT then leads to other fans being like "no they're not siblings and you all don't even have any evidence for it anyways!"
anyways it's not even a "they're siblings and this is why" it's a "if you're going to claim they've got a nuclear family relationship then please at least TRY to put some thought into it" (usually it doesnt work because they AREN'T actually anything at all like a nuclear family)
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yarrayora · 2 months
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while i do joke about reborn as tsuna's daddy issue a lot i tend to 'err' when it comes to actually calling reborn as tsuna's father figure because to me what they have as a mentor and apprentice is a stronger bond than assigning them nuclear family roles
compared to making reborn "im the stepdad who stepped up" i prefer their relationship as something like an old knight who watched his squire grew up to be the hero king
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voidedjuice · 1 year
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Already saw some big account on twitter refer to the abyssal hunters petrification scene as "specter leaning on her mom for support", that site is hell and i have no respect for it
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cosmic-herbal-tea · 1 month
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I never really liked the fact the whole fandom with their “lineages” because like…it’s very simplified & falls too closely with typical Nuclear family dynamics and with Jedi, it’s just not the case. Take the “Shatterpoint Lineage”. Its focus all on Windu’s famed ability and doesn’t address the fact that it’s more complex than that.
Everyone usually acknowledges Cysin Myr as his master but Yoda also helped trained Mace. Then Mace trained Depa. This image collection does exclude the fact she tutored Xaran Raal so closely she could of taken him as a Padawan. Then you have Kanan, who trained both Ezra and then Sabine, the latter in lightsaber combat and then her training is picked up by Ahsoka, whose also helped Ezra & Kanan in the past.
I just think it’s far more potent to really take into consideration the actual relationships between characters instead of assigning them to roles akin to a nuclear family and replacing “parents” with “master”. It definitely adds more complexity considering Ahsoka & Yoda aren’t pulled into a “Disaster Lineage” because that Jedi Line includes two Sith Lords & again, doesn’t acknowledge how he’s trained countless others (including a Inquisitor).
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house-of-mirrors · 2 months
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Hey. I hate to tell you this, but they got ahold of your found family story and gave everyone nuclear family roles. Yeah, they've assigned the parents and kids despite the characters all being around the same age. It's not looking good. I'm sorry.
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