#octavian (he/it)

[idkaguyorsomething]

now that the big day is finally upon us, enjoy some complimentary memes alongside your ancient roman coffee and pastries as you wait in the senate

¡sic semper tyranis!

[raps-hellion]

something about blonds (family photo)

[wabart]

roughhousing 😏

(AKA the concept art for Lucanis's room but it's at the Villa... and after 6mo apart post Veilguard he gets a surprise visit!!)

[sherdnerd]

This posted in the forum under the proscription list

[just-a-rascalnikov]

octavian was such an interesting character, we need to talk more about this wet soppy loser

[sodamnbored]

In New Rome Pre-HoO:

Jason: Here, brought you something.

Nico, confused: A yogurt?

Jason, kindly: I wanted to make you feel more at home here.

Nico: Why would a yogurt make me feel at home?

Jason, tapping the lid: It’s Greek-style.

[navree]

the thing to remember about the roman emperor augustus is that he was the human equivalent of those small purse dogs who are very little but also clearly remember a time when they were wolves and as such not only have a need to attack things but the determination to get violent the second they feel like it

[pjo-hoo-toa-freakazoid]

I made a thing ✨

[wanderingmind867]

"Really?’ Octavian said. ‘You seem to know a lot about our enemy’s plans, Percy Jackson."

Most insults Percy could shrug off – being called weak or stupid or whatever. But it dawned on him that Octavian was calling him a spy – a traitor. That was such a foreign concept to Percy, so not who he was, he almost couldn’t process the slur. When he did, his shoulders tensed. He was tempted to smack Octavian on the head again, but he realized Octavian was baiting him, trying to make him look unstable.

Octavian isn't trying to make you look unstable! He's reasonably pointing out that you shouldn't trust a weird foreigner who is clearly not roman! If a strange new person showed up in my home too, I'd be concerned! I can see it from Percy's perspective, but come on! Octavian is not in the wrong for this!

[humblefryingpan]

Rick Riordan always villainises the most random characters ever and it's so stupid to me

Why would Hera, queen of the gods, protector of women, send a cow to shit on a teenage girl? What would she gain from that?

Why would Dionysus, the god of festivity, madness, ecstasy and theatre be an angry alcoholic? Why would he bully kids?? Rick was probably trying to make a point about how bad alcoholism is but he rlly didn't show that

Why would Hebe, goddess of youth and old age, curse people into turning into children? Why would you not at least google what she's the god of before putting her in the book??

All the gods are such complex characters but he just picks a few and decides to use one of their traits to form a whole new personality.

And then he'll glorify other equally random gods. Poseidon? He made him dear old dad, a harmless fisherman that wants to see his kid but is sadly not allowed to.

Poseidon in actual mythology has assaulted just as many people as Zeus, and he was one of the most feared gods because of his tendency to randomly hurt mortals and destroy entire cities

And then there are gods that should've been plot relevant but weren't. Because they weren't connected to his favorite characters

It's not just the gods though. It's easier for me to notice with them because they have existing characterisation outside of pjo but there is obvious bias towards other mortal characters.

The treatment of Luke vs Octavian specifically. Luke was a 26 year old man that was literally trying to destroy all of humanity. He literally enjoys hurting 13 year old Percy. And Octavian? He was a bit annoying? He cut up a teddy bear? And he's villainised so much for that. While Luke was able to go to elysium and never be hated by the main characters, Octavian was fired out of a canon and insulted constantly.

And remember Octavian always thought he was doing the right thing. He thought Apollo was supporting him, he thought the Greeks had already started a war (we know Leo was controlled, he never did). He thought his camp was under attack and took charge when their leader refused to (never giving him a real reason other than 'no that's bad')

I have many other thoughts but I cba to type more rn. Feel free to ask about other characters you think Rick did dirty. I'll probably agree and I'll yap about them too

[lubble-underscore]

[hadesisqueer]

Octavian:

Reyna during the entirety of The Blood of Olympus:

Well, Reyna, Hazel, Nico, Frank, Percy and basically every character

[plushieslayer]

some HOO/PJO/TOA fans :

“we need more complex characters”

MY BROTHER IN CHRIST,YOU COULDN’T EVEN HANDLE HIM

[wabart]

gotta be careful what you wish for... otherwise you are a 45 y/o man getting flipped (took too long in the bathroom :( )

Bonus:

[ashpkat]

i can’t believe octavian died like… that. of all things in a middle grade kids books series. and everyone was chill about it. literally no one gaf octavian died so horrifically even if it was ‘just’ —and as the readers… we were chill with it too

[vasinoop]

you remember this in blood of olympus right