Does anyone else feel like almost all of the conflicts that had to do with the various character dynamics in Chain of Thorns didn’t actually get resolved, they just unexplainably ceased to exist after two books of building them up because CC didn’t feel like writing them anymore and she didn’t know how to resolve it naturally after how she’d built the issues up so much?
Like how none of the characters but Cordelia and Thomas had any clue about the Alastair and Charles situation and then suddenly in CoT it was like who doesn’t know? Of course Matthew knew and didn’t say anything before and then randomly brought it up to Cordelia in Paris while assuming she knew too
Or how Alastair and Thomas went from how things were at the end of CoI with Alastair thinking it could never work because Thomas’s friends hate him to oh look everyone suddenly is friends with Alastair with no grudge with no development of that in this book at all, just an abrupt shift
Especially the Alastair and Matthew dynamic where Matthew hated Alastair and wanted him to have nothing to do with any of their friends and he spent CoI ranting about him to Cordelia. And then suddenly in CoT it’s like of course Matthew is supportive of Thomas and Alastair and oh look Matthew and Alastair are suddenly not just tolerating each other for Thomas’s sake but friends despite barely interacting and no development actually showing and never getting any mention of the other in their own POVs, just having Cordelia be like Alastair stop being dumb, you’re literally friends with him now
Or like everyone other than Christopher and Grace where it was like oh we don’t like her for how she’s treated us and her friends straight to anyway she’s one of us. Like yes Grace was useful and yes Tatiana manipulated her whole life, but none of that was why anyone changed their minds or opinions? It was just suddenly the flip of a switch when it was convenient for CC
Or Anna and Ariadne where it didn’t so much develop as Anna just acted mean to Ariadne on and off throughout the series and at the end of CoI she wanted nothing to do with a relationship and then in CoT she was just suddenly like sure I guess I do. Also, slightly different note, but I did not like that Anna barely interacted with anyone else for the entire book and she was just off in the corner being an irrelevant romantic subplot for almost all of the book except when she showed up to barely even be shown in the background being sad about her brother being dead
(Although Anna still got more of a reaction than everyone else and his death was poorly executed all around in the sense of how did you write this so predictably and poorly that no one even knows when he died and it’s so background and 99% of the characters don’t care at all and we don’t see his parents finding out or much of Thomas’s reaction or anything and it’s just as if he wasn’t a character anymore 2 seconds later which is a different genre of issue with CoT but similar problem in the sense that both issues made the book feel a lot more emotionless to read)
And how the issues of Thomas and Alastair being together as two men and Anna and Ariadne being together as two women in this time and the issues of what would happen if the fact that Charles and Alastair were gay got out to the entire Clave just disappeared and never got addressed at all. We know how the ClVe reacted to Alec Lightwood YEARS later. We know society was homophobic at the time TLH is set and that it seems like shadowhunter society was a lot less open-minded than mundanes a century later
I understand that Charles being blackmailed and making shitty decisions was annoying but it was like suddenly everyone finding out wouldn’t have consequences and all the other queer men characters were like how could you possibly be worried about this :/ as if they haven’t spent the whole series knowing they have to be careful about who they tell. And then suddenly it was just of course it’s totally fine and safe to have everyone find out and why wouldn’t you be fine with that. And it was really written in a way that had other queer characters like oh Charles is such a coward for not being ready to publicly tell a bunch of homophobic people his sexuality and it just wasn’t it??? And super weird after Thomas was terrified of telling even Anna and Matthew for years. And also, I did not care for the fact that when Charles did go risk getting outed to finally do the right thing, we didn’t even get to see it through any character’s perspective or how that important meeting went, we just got one line of dialogue from somebody else saying that it happened with no details at all. And I can’t think of other examples right now but there were quite a few moments like that where we got one line saying that something had happened that was important to the plot and to characters’ development that seemed like it would have been more interesting than some of what we did get to see where it was just totally breezed over and way too easy and totally background to less important stuff
And then there was the whole no one reacting to Ariadne and Anna dancing together publicly thing was like yeah that’s nice I guess but not realistic and it doesn’t go with the way things have been presented up to that point, it also just feels like a situation where CC was like well this would be easier for me so there just won’t be consequences and then they can easily end up happily together
And then there was the whole Thomas and Alastair thinking they couldn’t realistically be together thing and knowing they couldn’t get married or be known to be together by anyone they’re not close to and then at the end it’s still not really addressed how they’re going to be together? Like there was the laziest write off of the family tree being wrong and then we still are just left to assume that eventually they move in together and suddenly it’s not a problem and everyone’s fine with it? And then I also feel like we don’t actually know if everyone found out about Alastair and Charles’ sexualities after the blackmail or if people are going to assume about Thomas and Alastair or if that’ll cause issues or if no one knows outside of who they’ve told and they have to be careful or what. Which like wouldn’t necessarily need to be addressed if it wasn’t for the logistics of being together as two men in that time being part of the obstacle that they were struggling with being in their way and then it felt like it was totally forgotten to even be one at the end by CC
Idk like I’d love to think they just lived in a world where homophobia didn’t exist but it felt like homophobia was a plot point when CC wanted it to be an inconvenience and then suddenly disappeared just to make her writing easier the moment she didn’t want it there anymore instead of actually addressing the plots she raised with it if that makes sense?
And sorry, I really did not mean to go on a rant this long. And maybe everyone else had a very different reading experience than I did and other people don’t agree with some or all of this. I personally am just very confused about how the book was almost 800 pages long and it felt like so much of the development in it was us abruptly being told that development had happened rather than actually getting to see it and how so many of the issues were abruptly solved in an I don’t want to write this issue anymore kind of way rather than anything actually needing to be worked at outside of the Belial situation
Edit: You know what, I mentioned it in my tags but I feel like it’s annoying enough to put in the body of the post and make it even longer. What the fuck was with everyone outing or potentially outing everyone else just so that characters could openly talk about the queer characters and tell them to do what they want them to? Why did Matthew out his brother multiple times? Like yes, the people he said it to coincidentally already knew, but he didn’t know that. And why was Thomas outing Alastair? The straights got to keep their secrets as long as they wanted and fix their problems more naturally. Why did I have to sit through queer characters constantly having their sexualities and romantic histories to everyone else when they clearly had not okayed it? Why were the queer characters doing so much of the outing? Why were people who cared about them and knew what it felt like to be afraid of the wrong person finding out just broadcasting their sexualities to make it easier for CC to breeze past development to have their things get resolved fast? Why did no character have an issue with it at all?
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Hi! hope you're doing well. If you still do character analyses, could you do one with Eula? I'd love to hear your take on her, particularly her character flaws and her coping mechanisms (if you're comfortable with it ofc). Just a side note and you don't have to do this if you don't want to, but can you contrast her with Kazuha? I feel like they reflect each other somewhat but I can't quite put a pin on it.
First off, let me apologize for taking so long with this. It took way more reading up than I was expecting. I’m going to be honest and admit that I am not 100% confident in my analysis as I did not read everything, so there still may be things that are lacking or wrong. Take everything with a grain of salt.
Eula is a very interesting person as a whole. For everything she went through in her life, one would expect her to be a misanthrope, someone that has closed off her heart to the world. You would think she would be bitter or hurt by the way she has been treated by others. Eula proves to be the exact opposite, though? While she purposefully puts on an icy exterior, deep down she shows a very pure face to the world. She doesn’t avoid people. She’s always open to helping. She’s kind. She’s forgiving. She worries what others think of her, etc.
As for character flaws, I don’t think she really has any. Though I’m not sure what you would define as a character flaw. As for her coping mechanisms, it seems to me that she puts on an icy exterior with promises of revenge to give her the strength to deal with the prejudice of others. “If I present myself to be a haughty noble, I will not be hurt when people treat me that way.” That being said, I feel that while it may have started off as a coping mechanism, it’s more of a quirk now.
The thing with coping mechanisms is that for it to be one, one has to be coping with something. Eula does not show much evidence of being insecure of her background. While I’m not saying she wears it with pride, she doesn’t hide from it either. She doesn’t show any signs of getting down on herself when treated with prejudice, but lets those things slide off of her easily. In my opinion, she’s a very strong person that doesn’t seem to be bothered by her past anymore.
As for how she contrasts with Kazuha, I admit I’m having a hard time seeing where they relate. If I had to point out one thing, it’s how Eula faces her problems head on while Kazuha tends to avoid his. Where Eula is like a mountain, Kazuha is like the wind. Eula directly interacts with the people of Mondstadt despite their prejudice. Kazuha, though having multiple calls to stay in Inazuma and connect with his past and clan, is always seen traveling.
At least, that’s how I see they connect. If you could describe to me how you feel they relate, could you let me know? I’d love to see them in a different way.
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Do you have any recommendations for other good Roach content? I'm not the biggest fan of how Roach is typically portrayed in fanon
unfortunately i‘m probably not the best person to ask since i started writing this to, among other reasons, “be the change you want to see.” i was also dissatisfied with how i saw roach being portrayed (namely as a skinny painfully white twink with the personality of a sweat rag) and decided to take matters into my own hands. i guess i could do a shoutout to my own past fics but roach doesn’t really feature in them very heavily, although the lore i’ve created for him has been pretty consistent since i’ve started. it’s deeply frustrating that i haven’t found anyone who really sees him the way i do but as with most things in fandom, c’est la vie. if any of my followers have recs though feel free to slam those in the replies. i’d like to get a look at them, too.
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Uuuuh you should probably make sure where your character is from first or which culture you're writing. Hijab styles and the habits/quirks/behaviours change a lot from one place to another. Sorry if this didn't help much
No, it’s good! Thank you for sharing <3
If you had any other advice to share, it would be appreciated!
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i think some people need to realise that women being strong and/or badass in fiction does not mean that their character is well written and well developed. it’s actually insanely easy to give a woman character a backstory full of trauma but put her in a sexy outfit and show her “fighting good” or being snarky - but not actually engage with her trauma, not give her meaningful relationships, not give her complex goals. it’s mostly tho ofc not entirely men that talk this way about women in fiction, and i think they’re well-meaning in trying to uplift women in fiction that they think are cool, but coolness does not a good character make. i’m not saying that no “strong female character” is well written, i can think of quite a few, but it’s not a sufficient criteria, and i think a lot of genuinely well written women in fiction are overlooked because people (again mostly men but not entirely never entirely) can’t relate to them and don’t care to try to.
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