#peoples of Beleriand

[edennill]

Beleriand Dashboard Simulator • part 3

Part one, part two

🔆 hador-lomin following

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♟️narrond following

wait, are @turin-deactivated4841207 and @outlaw-neithan-deactivated4880911 the same person as @mormegil?

⚔️ adanedhel

Not really my business to say, seeing as I'm neither of these, but people have reasons for changing blogs/names/URLs. If this was true and if I was that person I would be very annoyed at whoever posted such a thing for everyone to see.

#please take it down for general safety of people who might need it

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⚓ nenil-noriel

I am sick and tired of Gondolindhrim complaining they're bored. How about you try living here and fighting orcs for a while? I'd be glad to switch.

👤 house-of-the-mole following

I'll let you know we fought alongside everyone in the Nirnaeth.

⚓ nenil-noriel

Sure, do pat yourself on the back for doing the bare minimum.

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👰🏼‍♀️ celebrin following

Guess who got engaged today?!!! 💕💍🥰

#no one even got ordered to bring a Silmaril lol #so I dare say it went perfectly #!!! #can you tell I'm excited?

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🎼noldolanteyy following

thinking of changing my url (for pretty obvious reasons)

#doriath kinslaying

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🎼musiquendil-former-noldolanteyy following

No, really, this is the worst time ever to be a musician. I'm not pretending that the way he let us down is in any way worse than everything else Maglor Feanorion has done, but...

Can we separate art from the artist when the art itself is so interwined with the artist's deeds? Can we appreciate the noldolante itself ignoring that it was entirely a lie, regrets that apparently didn't stop him from committing the same evil over again?

But it is impossible to cut oneself away from all influence Maglor Feanorion has had on our music. And even keeping to the apolitical pieces, should we ignore the person of the artist? Does it help anything?

It's like the famous Fëanorian lamps debate all over again. Do we change the name since we're uncomfortable using it? Do we try to forget who was their creator - but is that even ethical, no matter what evil he wrought? Or is that maybe wrong? Maybe, if we use the lamps, we should be discomforted?

#I really don't know how to approach this

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👰🏼‍♀️celebrin following

So, we've arrived at the havens. I thank you all for the condolences, thoughts and prayers... I still don't know what to do from now on, but I guess maybe I can finally rest a bit. And mourn.

To all the people asking, yes, my husband and son are thankfully okay; this is the one silver lining. My son seems to have made a friend already...

#personal #gondolin

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🕊️queenelwing-unofficial

putting this under cut so I can delete this later, but please have a passionate rant about how a girl actually feels about receiving missives from the people who killed her parents.

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#honestly why do they presume I might want to actually meet with them #though tbh now that the anger's worn of I'm mostly afraid #and of course my husband *has* to be gone right now... #I'll probably delete all this tomorrow but I couldn't help myself

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[sesamenom]

maglor's first time getting to go to a concert / his favorite singer attending maglor's first big concert

[eloquentsisyphianturmoil]

The refugees in Sirion hearing the grind of metal and angry shouts and thinking it’s happening again.

[deadqueernoldor]

Thinking thoughts about those from Cuivienen and how they later treated the Valar, especially after Cuivienen was destroyed.

I imagine a foundation of sorrow and a layer of betrayal and pettiness. They had promised safety. And how did it turn out? Kin of Tata and Tatie their first leaders, slain in Valinor by the Dark Hunter from which the Valar promised protection in Valinor.

And then, the War of Wrath comes and with it the destruction of Cuivienen.

If any of those were re-embodied in Aman, I wonder if they make it a point to always turn their back to Valar and Maiar. I wonder if they only speak in the tongue they had first devised all those millennia ago and spoke in Cuivienen before time and different kindreds changed the tongue, not Sindarin or Quenya from the Great Journey's time or later. I wonder if they sing songs in their ancient tongue, songs about the beauty and unsullied health of Cuivienen every time any of the Ainur are near.

I wonder if the Valar feel any shame when those who they once looked upon in wonder and love gaze back at them with indifference or disgust.

[velvet4510]

I suggest this because she grew to love Beren when he was at his lowest, full of grief and guilt and misery and trauma, having seen things that were beyond her wildest nightmares at that point in her sheltered life.

Given that she was the daughter of one of the wisest Maiar in existence, I think it falls within the realm of possibility that Lúthien was an empath, and thus by nature, she was inherently capable of understanding Beren’s feelings as though they were her own, despite having lived a totally different kind of life. This might very well be what triggered her to fall in love with him, and him with her.

But I could be wrong. Maybe they fell in love for different reasons.

I’d like to know what you guys think.

[umarthiels]

[...] Ahab was now entirely conscious that, in so doing, he had indirectly laid himself open to the unanswerable charge of usurpation; and with perfect impunity, both moral and legal, his crew if so disposed, and to that end competent, could refuse all further obedience to him, and even violently wrest from him the command. From even the barely hinted imputation of usurpation, and the possible consequences of such a suppressed impression gaining ground, Ahab must of course have been most anxious to protect himself.

LAW TIME!

this is so interesting to me bc it calls back to the fact that ahab doesn't actually own the pequod! he's captaining it and he does own a share in it, but the real owners are peleg and bildad, and on shore he's accountable to them. even though on the sea he is master of the ship, he still answers to the owners, and in derailing the voyage from "hunting whales and making money" to "hunting moby-dick specifically", he is usurping authority! he doesn't (well, in the sense of ownership, which will come up later) actually have the right to do this! and if the crew were to mutiny against him (say, if a certain mate who isn't keen on the quest and prioritizes the commercial interests of the voyage over ahab's goal convinced them), legally they'd be in the right to do it, and arguably it'd be their duty to do it. (nautical law side of tumblr do correct me if i'm wrong) (the idea of whether ahab actually has ultimate authority over the pequod comes up later and it's all very interesting!)

this is extra fun since ahab knows this and is genuinely nervous that the crew might rise up against him. right now starbuck stands alone, and even he gave way to peer pressure in the end! the entire crew is enthusiastic about the quest, but if that wanes and they start to consider it, ahab will be in genuine danger! he can't actually answer to the charge of usurpation, he undeniably did it (within the framework of ownership of the whaling industry ofc) which is something that isn't really obvious in pop culture perceptions of him, he's not just some dictator, he's pragmatic about things!

[kazz-brekker]

attempting to make a bingo for rings of power season 2 but it has just turned into me going “how many of the original characters can i predict are going to die?” and “are they allowed to mention this bit of tolkien lore in the show?”

[softlysilverfountainsfall]

Dior, who gave himself the name Eluchil, "Heir of Elu (Thingol)", who marries an elven woman and names his eldest son Elured ("means the same as Eluchil" i.e. heir of Elu Thingol) and the second son Elurin ("The name means 'Remembrance of Elu (Thingol)'"), and their daughter Elwing ("star-spray" but clearly continuing the El- theme).

I always look at the meaning of these names and think "Wow, someone feels like their claim to Doriath's throne is real secure."

[hirazuki]

Choose Your Own Adventure: Middle Earth Edition, part 2.

It is the year 400 of the First Age. Three hundred and forty years have passed since the Siege of Angband begun; one hundred and forty years, since a dragon was last sighted. There are scattered skirmishes with orcs, especially in the north of the continent, but these are more raids than proper battles, and the lands and realms of Beleriand have prospered in the wake of this watchful peace.

[*i.e. Avari, but they wouldn't call themselves that. Aryador is the name given to Hithlum in earlier writings, and -- while it's the name of that region in the language of Men -- according to the Gnomish Lexicon, it's an Ilkorin/Umanyar word, so I think it would probably be more likely to be used by Avari to refer to their land than the Quenya or Sindarin names you know, in the absence of knowing anything concrete about Avarin language; but also I just prefer it because I think it's prettier ^^]

[**"Man" refers to race, not gender, just to be clear!]

(Part 1 is here)

[in-the-glow-of-a-silmaril]

If I were to do....hm, a series of icons. Tolkien's characters in the style of saints. Would y'all be interested in that? St. Earendil of the many sorrows...St. Elwing, patron of hopeless causes... I've considered a St. Sebastion style Celebrimbor, but I actually want to save that for Finduilas. (For those unaware, for whatever reason St Sebastion ended up being kind of a historical gay icon. I am considering painting Finduilas as a lesbian style counterpart.) Who else? Dior, patron saint of justice, maybe, if we go with the assumption that he killed the feanorians who came there to kill him.

Celebrimbor, by the way, I'm thinking is probably patron saint of hospitality and welcome. Because I am cruel.

Elros, patron saint of dandelions and kings.

Maedhros can be patron of suffering.

That's enough to be getting on with, isn't it?

[edennill]

Re: my First Age Dashboard Simulators (Part one, part two, part three)... thinking of general characteristics Beleriand social media would have as compared to irl:

A lot more debate on the morality of "separating art from the artist" given that the second most famous musician they have is a mass murderer.

Way fewer posts informing people about atrocities and war crimes. The orcs engage in those aplenty but no one needs convincing morgoth is bad (possibly any new arrivals, but only them). After all, Tolkien's orcs have become what we compare real life armies that commit atrocities to (see: the ongoing Russo-Ukrainian conflict)

Copious use of a Destiel meme analogue between the Bragollach and the end of the Age when all the disasters are happening in quick succession.

Vicious politics, but since when is that not a thing irl?

Probably a lot of ??? attitudes towards men and dwarves (and dark elves). Was gonna say racist but that's not the right word to be honest. Speciesist? But the differences are often more metaphysical than physical.

Anon hate, yes, but likely with fewer messages of the "kill yourself" variety; I think elves hold life more sacred than we do.

Deep running divides into Doriathblr, Edainblr, Dwarfblr, Gondolinblr etc.

A lot of debate on whether Quenya should be banned on the internet.

I'm assuming orcs don't have internet access because otherwise it becomes a hellscape I don't want to think about.

The most wholesome thing on orc-internet would be videos with the very mean kind of slapstick comedy/practical jokes (the "Hur, hur, he stepped on a nail" type). Apart from that it's mostly a mix of darknet, anon hate and - nomen omen - trolling.

[fuckingfinwions]

Amrod and Amras have a game they like to play with their lovers.

The two of them go into a bar looking for someone new. Amrod will be dressed in full robes, sitting in a quiet corner. Amras goes out and flirts with anyone who looks hot, helped by his tunic that unlaces halfway to his navel, and that "mysteriously" is missing the actual laces.

If someone appealing approaches Amrod, he acts shy and sweet. When they inevitably ask him for a hook up, he says he really doesn't like to be alone with strangers. But his twin brother is just across the room, and maybe he could come with? Amrod is sure that Amras would find such a handsome man appealing as well, and it would make Amrod much less nervous around such an intimidatingly strong handsome fellow.

If someone appealing makes a move on Amras, or replies to his advances, he responds with enthusiasm. Amras is definitely down to fuck, just let him settle his bill. And maybe tell his brother - Amras has been trying to get Amrod to come out of his shell, and took him to the bar tonight in hopes he'd meet someone. Actually Amras feels a bit bad about leaving him, and making off with the hottest guy in the bar since he and Amrod have the same taste in lovers...

Most people pick up on the "hints" for a twin threesome, and when you're choosing a lover on physical attractiveness, why not go along with it? If someone doesn't want that, Amras or Amrod make excuses and turn them down.

When they get to the hotel room, it starts exactly as Amras and Amrod presented things. Amrod acts like everything is new to him, shyly letting the stranger touch him while his brother holds his hand and kisses his cheek in reassurance. He'll top or bottom as their hookup wants, and Amras will apply his "greatly experienced" mouth however the hookup wants. Their hookup will come, and so will Amrod, and so will Amras with most positions. They all lie together on the bed in the afterglow.

Then Amrod will deep throat the guy's cock, to see how fast he can get hard again. Round one was the stranger's way, but Amras and Amrod both have their own ideas for the night.

Those ideas involve Amras riding the guy hard and fast while he sucks Amrod's nipples. Or Amras inside Amrod, while Amrod fucks their new lover. Or the two of them sitting in his lap and rutting their cocks together while he fingers them, if his cock is too spent for another round. Or one taking his ass and the other his mouth.

They do change it up based on what their lover likes. If he's adamantly opposed to bottoming, he can always eat Amras's ass. Or if he dislikes being blown, their are plenty of other ways to get his cock back up enough to play with.

But whoever's cock is in who, Amras and Amrod are the ones in control.

Generally they stop after they've each come four times. They leave him alone in the hotel room (paid through the night, they have the money and there's no need to make enemies).

[afanofmanyhats]

One of my favorite things about Tolkien's writing is that he has a very specific, recurring trope. For lack of a better term, I'm dubbing this the Tolkien Wife-Guy.

This is mainly obvious in the Silmarillion, but Tolkien loves to write couples where the man is a notable individual- nobility, commits a great deed, or both- but the wife is at least equally notable, if not more beloved or powerful. Manwe is the king of the Valar and Eru's main representative in Arda? Everyone loves Varda more, and Melkor fears her more than his own brother. Elu Thingol is the king of the Silvan Elves? His wife is Melian, whose Girdle is the magic that keeps Morgoth's forces at bay. Beren is a chief among the Edain, who befriends animals and survives one of the most nightmarish places in Beleriand? His wife is Luthien.

Even in Lord of the Rings we see this occur, though the couples are on more even footing. Tom Bombadil is... Tom Bombadil, but Goldberry is the River-daughter, and Tom adores her above everything else, and the hobbits are completely taken in with her when she's their host. Similarly, while Celeborn is a mighty lord among Elves, Galadriel is one of the only Noldor in Middle-earth who saw the Two Trees, and her hair inspired Feanor to make the Silmarils, not to mention her own accomplishments in the war against Morgoth. Aragorn is the king of Gondor and Arnor, but Arwen is the Evenstar of the Elves, the descendant of three(?) different royal Elven lines. And Faramir becomes the Steward of Gondor and is one of the noblest men alive, but Eowyn killed the Witch-king, so you know. She got the grander moment for the saga.

But with (most) of these couples, we never get the impression that the man views his wife as Less-Than, or as a junior partner. Thingol is the main exception to this in how he dismisses Melian's counsel, and that's made out to be his foolishness within the text. Otherwise, Manwe treats Varda as his co-ruler, Beren never tries to downplay Luthien's achievements, and I'm pretty sure most of Tom Bombadil's dialogue is about how gorgeous Goldberry is. It's really sweet.

All of these examples really testify to how much Tolkien loved his wife. People rightly point to Beren and Luthien as the prime example of that, but I think you can find it in these other couples too. Even though Edith is mainly known to history as Mrs. Tolkien, it's evident to me that Jirt saw her as a whole person worthy of admiration outside of being his wife.

[deadqueernoldor]

Nghhh chewing on finweans and realizing how self-sacraficial is so deeply instilled in that family, and that that particular trait is prevalent in each generation.

Finwe knew he couldnt win against Morgoth, but he could try and protect his grandchildren. He fought regardless.

Fingolfin knew he couldnt twin against Morgoth in 1-on-1. He fought regardless.

Finrod knew he would die on his quest for Beren, and still fought the wolf to save his friend. He did.

Celebrimbor knew he could protect others by dying, protecting the knowledge about the rings. He did.

It stands to reason that Elladan, Elrohir or Arwen, would have come upon a similar fate.

[ela-draws]

Maedhros did deeds of surpassing valour, and the Orcs fled before his face; for since his torment upon Thangorodrim his spirit burned like a white fire within, and he was as one that returns from the dead. Thus the great fortress upon the Hill of Himring could not be taken, and many of the most valiant that remained, both of the people of Dorthonion and of the east marches, rallied there to Maedhros; and for a while he closed once more the Pass of Aglon, so that the Orcs could not enter Beleriand by that road.

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Ink, Japanese watercolors, home made gold watercolor

[winterpinetrees]

Rereading the hobbit after reading Lord of the Rings and The Silmarillion for the first time is unlocking special new emotions that I cannot describe. They’re close to EXU Calamity emotions, but so much stronger.

The Hobbit introduces Elrond like this. “The master of the house was an elf-friend—one of those people whose fathers came into the strange stories before the beginning of History, the wars of the evil goblins and the elves and the first men in the North. In those days of our tale there were still some people who had both elves and heroes of the North for ancestors, and Elrond the master of the house was their chief.”

It’s vague and it sets the scene. It’s enough.

But like, that’s the Silmarillion right there! “wars of the evil goblins”, you mean the war against Morgoth? The battle of sudden flame, the fall of Gondolin, Fingolfin’s duel, every high king and kinslaying and death contained in a line. Elrond’s ancestors aren’t just some “elves and heroes of the north”, they are Beren and Luthien and Melian and Earendil! No one but Tolkien knew back then, but they did happen and they did matter!

The Silmarillion is out there now though, and so many people have read it. I read it. Maedhros and Maglor’s kidnap family mattered. Elros and Numenor mattered. There used to be a continent called Beleriand and a dog that talked three times and entirely too many grandchildren of Finwe. And it’s all gone now.

What’s left? Well, there’s two swords in a troll cave. There’s a wandering Maia with a fun hat. There’s a shiny stone that feels suspicious now, even though I know Tolkien wouldn’t have put a silmaril into a story so casually. Lastly, there’s Elrond, and he’s as kind as summer.

Elrond is as kind as summer.