#persona 5 theories

[sillyfudgemonkeys]

P5X (II and X and other numbers) Analysis

After seeing the whole “Persona II”......I have questions.

Is “Persona II” only for the Greco-Roman trio? Is it also for the OG Trio (Wonder/Closer/Cattle) too?

Is it “Persona 2″? (oh P5 with your P1/2/4 vibes kfjdsakfj) As in the roman numeral 2? (which is why it might only be the Greco-Roman trio)? Is it actually “Persona 11″ with the I’s representing 1, but we aren’t suppose to read it like Roman numeral 2 but instead two 1s together? (ro the Ii clan from the Sengoku era)? 

BUT NOW it’s got me thinking about P5X. Is this going to be another Danganronpa V3 bs thing??? (spoilers for DRV3)

Where V3 actually means 53′rd??? 

I swear to god I don’t think I can do this again. TT0TT Is P5X suppose to be like P510? (like P5 and followed by the roman numeral 10?) P50 (10*5)? P60 (omg P6? kljdsf 50+10)? P15 (10+5)? Or P29 (5 plus 24, “x” being the 24th letter in the alphabet). Or is it PEX (E is the 5th letter, x is the 24th). (wait PEX is also known as  Cross-linked polyethylene, Cross is in that!). 

X could be cross (someone pointed out how the last concert had a “cross road’s theme).......but I doubt it’s related to a pipe. lksdjflkjf

Of course X could mean an unknown value...... Or it could mean kiss (like Xs and Os jklsjlfa haha that’d be silly).

Or it could stand for the  Suzhou numerals  which is  〤.... Which is 4.... (wait P4????? My P4 senses just keep tingling with this game!). Which means it’s P54??? Or P9???? 030 Haha what if it is 2019? And the Whale...and it’s actually Persona Trinity Soul....haha.... TT0TT

Is it suppose to be “chi/𝜒” and not x? Persona 5 Key? Persona 5 Chi? XD We’re getting Kingdom hearts up in here, not just Danganronpa jdsakflj;f

It could be a multiplication symbol, but there’s nothing after it..... It’s like 5 times..... what? 0? Then it’s P0? Hahaha *sobs* Or maybe we haven’t seen the other “number” yet? Maybe it’s 5x5 (cause they are both P5 related) so it’s P25-

........................... P5 25th anni................................. is that.....is that it? TT0TT

Ok I ran through all my inane and insane possibilities. 

[specterthief]

"That Akechi and the protagonist are looking this way is actually to establish that they're aware that this scene is Maruki's ending."

clawing at the bars of my enclosure

[ameamedraws]

The siblings ever ‼️

[personishfive]

in which his life is like a video game

[iwritenarrativesandstuff]

oh i just felt my stomach drop. no...

[not-the-culprit]

idk they have similar vibes okay

[complete-idiot-inc]

Toshiro’s Revolution.

New trailer dropped, new speculation. (Edit: more information than my guesswork exists, changing now. New Information comes from here)

Let’s jump to the most notable thing here, Toshiro’s persona.

What I initially believed was Toshiro’s transformation into a Ruler, was according to the site above the awakening of his persona. but its strange that if they would show that in the third trailer, that his eyes don't become golden like everyone else's, even the site didn't seem confidant with the Persona, treating it more like an assumption than anything else, odd.

Speaking of kingdoms, the third kingdom has been revealed, based on schools and acedemia, perhaps Shujin itself.

This is its ruler, perhaps the principal or superintendent.

There’s also this shot of a kingdom transforming while the thieves are in it.

I couldn’t discern who’s kingdom this is, but it’s interesting that it’s changing before all the thieves eyes and they are terrified by it.

Erina and Toshiro are related, somehow.

Throughout the trailer, we see shots of Erina being downed and Toshiro doing something about it, but what was most interesting to me was this.

This unidentified person, speaking in a feminine voice, is related to Toshiro, because the trailer immediately cuts to him after she’s done speaking, and with the connection the two have, I’m willing to bet this is Erina’s human self, and Toshiro’s daughter.

This is the final kingdom, the source of the new metaverse, and the home of the guy corrupting the Velvet Room.

In one of the Nyaahoo news episodes, Lavenza directly states that the Velvet Room was affected by an outside influence, hence why it’s a forge.

Both Tactica’s VR and this Kingdom are heavily based on machinery, gears and cogs in particular.

There’s also a shot of Ann and Ryuji attacking the machinery, and later one with Joker leading a group charge against a barrier of some sort, just like the fight against EMMA from Strikers.

[official-persona-simp]

the phantom thieves (minus zenkichi ig) as that one color theory post. you know the one.

[milkshake-999]

Theory: The hooded man is Seiji. The age matches up with Seiji being a second-year in high school, and the black bangs look similar to his too. They both also have a blue color motif.

[clowningclownn]

fem akechi in her detective prince(princess?) outfit

[smolstarthief]

Was inspired by this fanart by @feldsparite to do a quick edit of her. Enjoy!

[sillyfudgemonkeys]

The 109 building is different!!!! Yes! I knew obsessing over this would pay off!!!! I bet P5X is on a different timeline!

[thedaythatwas]

what if theory of justice by john rawls was called proof of justice instead and it was several hundred pages of toxic doomed yaoi

[wintersettled]

Persona 5 protagonist is the trickster and got the name joker from morgana whos a creature from mementos kinda sorta right and in the manga joker is called akira WHAT? kurusu! Whats kurusu one letter off from? Kurosu! JUN KUROSU JOKER/TRICKSTER FROM P2 INNOCENT SIN!!

Dots are being connected guys cause remember how maya was like "tatsuya and jun are like doppelgängers" guess who else has an opposite thats right AKIRA PERSONA 5 with akechi yup! Shuake (?) perhaps. because WHAT? Tatsuya is the guy in that german story who doesnt realize that Jun is a reflection of himself and his own grief and hates him for it but akechi is acutely aware of him and akiras similarities and hates akira because akira isnt a reflection of a part of himself he doesnt want to acknowledge, akira is who he couldve been wow round of applause

[a-being-of-chaossss]

Theory Time

K spoilers for Persona 5 Royal (Third Semester) and Royal additions in general

Theory: The Phantoms Thieves never actually escape Maruki's reality

Hear me out. I think in the true ending to the third semester (the ending where you "defeat" Maruki and everything goes back to normal) is entirely fake and no matter what Maruki always wins.

Ok so after phase 2 of Maruki's boss fight, there is a scene where Maruki's Persona grows to a colossal size and "attempts" to smash the Phantom Thieves. According to the story, the Phantom Thieves are able to hold back the attack and end Maruki's "ideal" reality, but what if they didn't? Maruki says he wants a world where everyone is happy, INCLUDING the phantom thieves. So what if Maruki humoured them with a battle so he could get them to accept his reality?

After the fist, multiple events happen that explictly go against the pre-established rules of the game, the most obvious being Mona turning into a helicopter. Some others are Maruki not disappearing after his persona is killed, Maruki not dying in the place despite clearly not leaving and Akechi supposedly being alive in the post-credit scene. Maruki also has the ability to alter memories so what if everything after the punch is a hallucation? Maruki is also shown to have some ability similar to mind reading as he would have no other way of knowing everyone's wishes so recreating the velvet room / its attendants wouldn't be impossible. Basically, i would be super easy for Maruki to falsify these memories.

Additionally, the entire reason Maruki became a god is because society wished to be ruled by someone and the phantom thieves moved that responibility onto him. So if they truely defeated Maruki, would society not pass the burden onto them?

Anyways thats my rant and remember, this is just a theory. A PERSONA THEORY!

[p5x-theories]

Three new teammates were revealed in the new trailer! The top left doesn't look like anyone we've seen, and neither does the top right, but the middle one is almost without a doubt Tomoko, Motoha's friend that we met in the first beta!

Same haircut, same glasses, same eyes, and they're both wearing pink... they're similar enough that I'd really be surprised if it wasn't her, honestly.