#rvb buckey

[skwistokwarrior]

it's the same thing to him

[jumpymystic]

hiii have you ever drawn the blues and reds? what do you think they look like?

Heyo first ever ask! I had not drawn them before, but here is a doodle of my first impressions. They would look very similar to the red and blues with minor changes (except for Simmons counterpart).

Detailed notes

Loco: Has a comically large mustache. He also sometimes has a lazy eye

Temple: Wears contacts. After Biff's death, he also wears Biff earrings and dog tag

Buckey: Just different piercings and haircut

Surge: Sarge look-alike though they have different scars (Surge has a lot more knife scars)

Biff: Floofy hair, tinted glasses, and matching earrings with Temple

Gene: He is Latino, has acne and heterochromia eyes (which he chooses to hide)

Cronut: They are French-Korean, and have hearing aids. Their blast scar is on the opposite side of Donuts.

[plagues02]

Red vs Blue - Blues and Reds (plus Mercs) Queer HCs

Pride Month 2024 - Day 27

Temple is aroflux and gay. He is also a trans man(he/him) and would kill if clocked.

Biff is omnisexual with a heavy fem lean.

Buckey is pansexual.

Loco doesn’t label himself. He just falls for whoever he falls for

Surge is aroace.

Cronut is asexual and gay.

Gene is nonbinary and uses they/he/it and is gay.

Lorenzo is agender and uses any pronoun.

Felix is a trans man who uses he/they. He’s on the aroace spectrum and he’s biromantic.

Siris is on the aroace spectrum.

Locus is genderfuild and their pronouns changes fairly often. They mainly use they, he, or she. She also is only attracted to men and asexual.

[communistmarktemple]

i wish cronut and buckey were in canon the same characters they are in my head because you all need to see the fucking insane toxic yoai they are

[valveorangebox]

Thinking about the Blues and Reds. Redesigning them and redoing them in my brain.

Gene is now Jean, and is a trans woman. She and Simmons share a similar insecurity in their genders and accidentally feed into one another’s bullshit. They also constantly correct each other about nerd shit. Everyone is sick of it.

Buckey is renamed Buckingham. Is comfortable in his existence to an extent and is a sniper. More opposite to Tucker than similar. Very uncomfortable in romantic or sexual situations. Is somehow dating Jean.

[skipitty-bop]

ok listen

church is light blue but temple is pale blue

simmons is a more pink/red maroon and gene is a more orange maroon

donut is a warm pink and cronut is a cold pink

grif is light orange and biff is dark orange

sarge is light red and surge is burnt red

obviously tucker is green aqua and bucky is pale mint

caboose is slightly dark blue and loco is slightly bright blue

do you understand what im saying?

[sco07ut]

gene and cronut are homophobic homosexual best friends and u can pry this headcanon from my cold, dead hands

[str4ng3rdanger]

hi

red vs blue am i right

so,.. top, left to right: tex, sister/kai, maine/meta, sigma, and lopez. bottom, left to right: buckey, loco.

idk if they're inconsistent to their designs because i hardly draw these guys and don't even have references for the blues and reds minus temple so like lol shrug

tex / kai ship supremacy idk their ship name anyway slay

[akalegos]

random sketches again

none of these will make sense

like i dont know why my brain thought of buckey and cronut being a thing. like

why.

anyway now for sona shit because i cried

this is a lost meme now. cause G+ isnt around. I feel like no one will understand why i find the phrase “i give a shit” so funny.

anyways these r fun one of them is literally just my priv twt acct’s pfp as a mask. i thought it was funny.

bbh meme redraws

[simpin-for-simmons]

Hc: Buckey is also an incel and probably introduced temple to 4chan

this is my favorite ask I've ever gotten yes you're a genius

[skwistokwarrior]

yeah yeah okay mark temple cool villain what about the the others. the other blues and reds. they're right there. can anyone here m

[leonardalphachurch]

Why the Blues and Reds don’t work

On a fundamental level, the Blues and Reds don’t work. The conceit for these characters is that they were the original Sim troopers. These are the guys that the Reds and Blues were based off of. But if you look at what canon actually shows instead of what it says, this doesn’t hold up even slightly.

There are a few characters in the Blues and Reds that do work. I’m sure you know which ones I’m talking about. It’s Temple, Loco, and Biff. And it would be easy to say well, they have more characterization, that’s why people like them. While this is true to an extent, it is actually just a symptom of the problem, not the reason for the problem. Temple, Loco, and Biff can exist on their own without their Red and Blue counterparts. If they were in a story where Reds and Blues did not exist, they would still make sense as characters. The other Blues and Reds do not have this quality. if you were to remove them from the show, Bucky, Cronut, Surge, and Lorenzo would not make sense as characters. (Gene is a special case we’ll get to later).

The reason that Sarge is who he is, and why his name is what it is, is because he is a sergeant who has made that his entire personality. War has completely taken over his life to the point that it is his identity. This is a complete story, this is a complete character. The reason that Surge is what he is is because what he is is like Sarge. Surge’s name doesn’t mean anything outside of it being similar to Sarge. Surge doesn’t have any qualities except for the fact that he is like Sarge. If you took Sarge away, Surge wouldn’t be anything. We’re supposed to believe that Sarge he was chosen because he’s like Surge, but Surge doesn’t have any characteristics for Sarge to be chosen off of. All of his characteristics are instead just based off of Sarge.

And this problem persists with all the problem Blues and Reds. Though Donut doesn’t have an in-universe reason to have his name, he does have an out-of-universe one. Donut, as well as Caboose, had their names picked from the default names that were offered from the original Xbox live service. Cronut‘s name was chosen because it’s similar to Donut. There is no reason for his name, except for the fact that it’s like Donut. Similarly, if Donut was supposed to be chosen based off Cronut, this doesn’t make sense. Because Donut’s personality was not originally like Cronut’s; it developed over time. Cronut is written to be based off of Donut’s later season personality, rather than Donut having been chosen because he acts like Cronut.

Tucker’s name doesn’t have a reason for existing like Sarge or Donut’s do but Buckey’s name is still boring as hell. The only reason his name is Buckey is because it sounds like Tucker. It’s based on Tucker. Tucker’s catchphrase of “bow chicka bow wow” is a commonly used mimicry of the stereotypical kind of music used in porn. It’s an actual thing that makes sense both in and out of universe. Buckey’s catchphrase of “boom chicka wah wah” is nothing. That doesn’t mean anything. The only reason that it’s that is because it is based off of Tucker’s catchphrase. It doesn’t work without Tucker existing. Buckey doesn’t work without Tucker existing.

Lorenzo just doesn’t make any sense at all with established canon. It is confirmed in season six that having robots is not standard for Sim Trooper bases, and the only reason that the Reds and Blues have them is because Church was there. Further, Lopez did not originally speak Spanish. He was not originally made to speak Spanish. The reason he speaks Spanish is because Sarge made a mistake putting his speech chip. If Lopez was supposed to be based on Lorenzo, he would’ve been speaking a different language from the beginning. But Lopez wasn’t made to be based on Lorenzo, Lorenzo with written to be based on Lopez. Lorenzo just shouldn’t exist based on established canon.

And although I think Loco’s character works well, there is a problem with his design. The reason that caboose has an alternate helmet is because in season six he didn’t upgrade to Mk. VI and instead downgraded to Mk. V. There’s no reason that Loco should have the same helmet as Caboose, especially not back in Desert Gulch. The only reason Loco has that helmet is because he’s based on Caboose. If Caboose was chosen because he was similar to Lock, he would’ve had the helmet from the beginning. But he didn’t. Because he wasn’t chosen based on Loco, Loco was just written to be similar to Caboose.

And there are potential ways to explain the discrepancies, to hand wave away the problems with continuity, but it still doesn’t change the fact that the Blues and Reds were written to be knock off version of the Reds and Blues, while canon is trying to tell you that the opposite is true.

Lastly, to talk about Gene, who you would think is the worst offender of this but who I don’t actually have a problem with. Because that’s the joke. The whole point of Gene is that he’s exactly like Simmons. While the other Blues and Reds are supposed to be their own characters that just happened to be similar to the Red and Blues, the joke is that Gene and Simmons are so similar that they’re basically the same person. And this works from a comedy and a thematic perspective, which I will get to in a later post where talk about parallels and narrative foils and such. But for now I will just leave it here by saying Gene does actually work.

[freelancer-intel-256]

Blues and Reds Down

Okay, so some of these are a bit of a stretch, but the ways the Blues and Reds were defeated and/or killed offer contrasts/parallels to their counterparts.

Honestly, there’s no irony in Lorenzo’s second decapitation that I could see. Um... He’s operating a vehicle turret when it happens? The tank’s main cannon gives Tucker the momentum to boot him away like a football? Maybe Lorenzo, too, was jettisoned into space, doomed to drift towards a black hole?

Here’s Cronut being blown up in a tank by a dude beating the radiator off with a nice arm. And. You know. Surviving.

Colonel Surge is defeated, although instead of dying battling an enemy, the opposing duelist tries to reconcile with him, in spite of how much bloodlust and war is integrated into their personalities.

Gene goes down kissing ass and sucking up. If we’re really going in here, some people have said that Gene’s evil clone characteristic is that he’s Simmons without Grif... Which he is. He’s a Simmons who never had a counter, an unstoppable force who never met his immovable object. While Simmons learned from Grif how to get along with his polar opposite, and that in turn led to him to see his superior not as a strange father figure but a compatriot and his inferiors not as such but as friends. Gene was a kissass who never learned his lesson, who was never helped, and he goes down thinking that his way of appealing to people will get him out of this mess. But not this time. Status: Unknown

Oh, man, Buckey. You were fucked the moment you took Tucker’s sword. First, Buckey blows his entire load too soon and runs dry. Then he just can’t get it up, no matter how much he fiddles with it, plays with it, or whacks it. Boom-chicka- Get fucked, Buckey. The only thing you’ll be eating out is “from the confines of a prison cell”.

Poor Loco was shot by the team-killing fucktard Temple in a sad reversal of Caboose and Church’s typical gag.

Where Church has sacrificed himself for his friends on multiple occasions, Temple faces his defeat confident that his friends will come back to avenge him. What they can do for him as opposed to what he can do for them... But nobody came... Perhaps he could have made the sacrifices to save the ones he loved, had he only the chance. Church destroyed himself for his friends. Temple faced his defeat alone. And frozen in some disturbingly uncomfortable-looking pose, for some reason.

...

And Biff was killed just trying to get away from the military drama.

[communistmarktemple]

cronut would be a wellness guru influencer scamming people with healing crystals. buckey would be a sigma male influencer scamming people with supplements.

[tinfoil-jones]

Suggested Full names of the Blues and Reds

I think it’s a little unfair only Temple’s name was revealed. It makes sense since most of the Reds and Blues didn’t get their names revealed until the later half of BGC, but still.

This is assuming that the full names of the Blues and Reds follow similar themes to their counterparts (Even though Mark isn’t similar to Leonard)

Blue Team

Mark Temple

Lazerrick Buckey

Michael B. Loco

Red Team

[FIRST NAME REDACTED] Surge

Spencer Biff

Kelly Gene

John Quincy Cronut

Lorenzo il grande