we can argue over fanon vs canon all day in terms of relationships between steve and the party but
steve and max choosing each other as family is something that can be so personal -
the concept of “you’re kind where he’s cruel, so you can be my brother now”
the vibe that “i’ve always wanted a little sister, it’s good to finally meet her you”
max shovel talks steve’s prospective partners
steve calls lucas when max comes around in a mood and helps him scheme how to cheer her up
just sibling steve and max bc they deserve that bond
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Don’t hide behind anon to bully & harass me. Just come say it straight to my face babe 😘
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Men are often sexist breaking news to zh0re
Yes tons of gay men are misogynistic but apprently to you crackheads that justifies homophobia. If you're suggesting that gay men and lesbians shouldn't be in solidarity with each other or that it doesn't exist because gay men are misogynistic, that's fucking homophobia.
You radfems talk all the time about how even the worst fucking women in the world deserve feminism because all women are oppressed under patriarchy. I do not want to hear a goddamn thing about we shouldn't recognize gay & lesbian solidarity or how that doesn't exist because gay men are misogynistic nEwS tO zH0rE uwu.
Get out of my inbox with that bullshit pls.
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Mhok: Nong Day, Nong Day, cast your gaze this way! Though your mother is a classist bitch, the most vile ableist witch, grant thy love to me!
Day: IKR? Bet.
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can you expand on what you mean about 12x22 and berens? i’ve never really looked at the writer patterns before but i’m intrigued
so jensen did a solo panel at JIB 8 in 2017 and an earlier question prompted him to recount his experience having difficulty connecting with the mary & dean relationship in s12 and the character motivation behind it. (and i think he's correct in saying that fans picked up on him not gelling with it which actually works in some episodes but feels off in others.)
anyway! berens was on-set when they were filming 12x22 "who we are" and jensen told him "oh god i get it now!" with the "i hate you, i forgive you" speech (that dean's character arc was him needing to forgive mary) and berens had no idea what he was talking about.
hopefully this embedded correctly to start at the right time code, but if not, he starts talking about it at 19:45
which yes, there's the possibility that berens was just yanking jensen's chain* about not realizing the "i hate you, i forgive you" was the thesis of mary & dean's relationship arc in s12. but also i really am inclined to believe he didn't realize he'd tied up the whole arc bc berens has been such a chronic dean misunderstander over the years. like folks will talk about dean as the "angry man" in late seasons and... that's mostly berens, baby!**
and i know you didn't ask but this is why the confession falls so flat for me. it rings hollow bc this is the writer who has done more than anyone else in the last few seasons to make dean an un-likeable prick. i do like the confession as a radical act of self-love (that "having" doesn't matter and "being" is more important) but as cas confessing his love to dean? yeah, i just can't buy it given the other stuff berens wrote over the years and the narrative framing is just off. much like the finale, it's tragedy wearing an ill-fitting ballgown and looking in a fun house mirror.
so, in summary (x)
* this is a bit unkind, but jensen is such a consummate pro that i would not be surprised if the "maybe he was yanking my chain" was a way to save face for berens since jensen has disagreed with him on his episodes before.
** i did not jive with 14x20 "moriah" until i re-watched it without the baggage of 14x18 before it (14x19 isn't great but does set up the "logic" of dean's actions in 14x20; never 5get that cas wanted to put jack in the cage... how is that different from a ma'lak box?). i think berens was just not a good fit for spn and especially not the direction they were going in during dabb era. i'm not a big fan of him in carver era either but he fit the vibes and direction way better.
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Daemon to Simon Strong, an innocent man: IS THIS YOUR FAULT ??[knife to mouth for emphasis]
Daemon to Aly Rivers, obviously guilty, clearly planning to torture him more: I think something is wrong with me. Please, I need help.
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People saying 'everyone loves Hayden Anakin now that he has a good script'....FUCK OFF. The script was never the actual reason the dudebro fanboys hated Anakin in the Prequels. They had already viciously hated on little Ani back in TPM. And not because of so-called 'bad writing', but because he was a cute, precocious little kid and they couldn't stand that being associated with their beloved 'badass' Vader. And likewise, they IMMEDIATELY decided to hate Anakin in AotC when Hayden was cast because he was a pretty boy instead of whatever headcanon they wanted for him. They resented Anakin in the Prequels because he was first depicted as a sweet and caring child who loved his mother, and then later because he was an emotionally vulnerable young man who had a romantic storyline and was motivated by love and his fear of losing those he loved. The fanboys hated Prequels Anakin because he wasn't Vader. They wanted Vader. They have always worshipped Vader. THAT is the reason. Not the script. Seriously, there are so many older male fans who are STILL bitter over a 'pretty boy' playing Anakin. Stop blaming the script for everything. The Prequel films and Hayden Anakin were only thought to be universally 'hated' due to the fact that the fanboys ruled the internet in those early days, and spread the hate around with no one to counter it. The Prequels are way better films than anything Disney could EVER hope to produce, and it's infuriating that people are acting like the material Disney of all things churns out is somehow the 'reason' people like Hayden Anakin now. No, it's because they've had time to go back and appreciate his role in the Prequels and seen that it's actually a compelling story and his performance is, in fact, good.
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You know the game is getting serious when you have the wiki open on one monitor and the game on the other so you can double, triple and quadruple check ✨everything✨ you do
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got a reply to one of my posts saying i’m not a boy. you’re absolutely right, i’m a good boy :)
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to the multiple people saying theyd kill themselves if mania won: ...well i wont say anything. instead i will just say: Stop Being Fucking Weirdo Losers.
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