#something something codependency something something moral compass

[archfey-edda]

Double-edged swords

[joejhang]

THEA MULDANI DISCOURSE

if you're a hardcore thea hater do us all a favour dni w this post

THEA DID NOT GROOM KEVIN. lord the amount of INSANE takes i see about kevthea makes me want to bash my head in. THEA IS NOT A FUCKING PREDATOR. nora did make a post about this already but i'll reiterate the CANON FACTS for you all: thea and kevin didn't begin a relationship (romantic or otherwise) until they were both legal adults. the age gap between the two of them is maximum five years. there is no evidence to suggest the two of them had any kind of an intimate or close relationship before kevin's freshman year and their age gap isn't anything crazy it's not like kevin was freshly 18 and thea was like 30 so there was no huge gap in maturity. nora also makes it clear that their relationship was not the same as the toxic sexual encounters many of the other ravens had. much as some of y'all don't like kevthea (which i understand), it has to be said that they did actually have a relationship with each other. they passed each other notes and actually cared to get to know each other. nora doesn't really suggest there is anything unhealthy or toxic about their dynamic on its own.

yes i do think kevthea the ship has problems. however i think the toxicity is due to the environment they were both in (a literal cult) rather than either kevin or thea. the main reason i don't ship kevthea hardcore is because their relationship is borne from a very abusive very codependent very toxic environment that neither of them are healed or fully detached from. i honestly think it would be better for them both to just clean the slate and not pursue a relationship until they're more well-adjusted and free of the nest. that being said, i actually trust nora with her characters, so i'll let it rest.

i don't even like thea that much but some of y'all are literally just misogynists. i don't think it's a coincidence that one of the most hated characters in the series is a canonically black woman, especially when contrasted against the all white, male main characters of the books who arguably all have a very fucked moral compass (except for jean and jeremy. sometimes). considering she has like four canon appearances in the series and she is still one of the most hated characters in the fandom for YEARS says a LOT. smells like misogynoir to me.

i also think a lot of people forget that thea is also a victim of the nest. probably more than the average raven because of her race and gender. it's already been said that she faced hatred and copped a lot of shit during her time because she's half black, and jean makes it clear that women weren't highly valued in the nest as well. that combination of her identity did her no favours as a raven and y'all just want a perfect victim so bad don't you. of course she has a twisted way of thinking of course she's not well-adjusted or gentle or particularly kind she's a veteran from the nest and their vicious cult mindset that's not something you can just shake off, and neil, jeremy, kevin and jean all say that ravens graduate but never leave the nest. you all forget how prickly and bitchy and mean jean and kevin can be as well, probably courtesy of the nest, but for some reason their flaws are brushed over and even endearing but thea's are enough to despise and hate her passionately. crazy and suspicious.

yes a lot of the thea discourse is somewhat valid because i do think her responses to kevin + jean's trauma isn't particularly tactful or sensitive but i've said it before and i'll say it again. what do you guys expect her to fucking do??? riko is dead and tetsuji is nowhere to be found. if y'all want her anger and indignation you have it. she wasn't just totally chill and fine with the abuse they suffered. yes, thea made some ill-advised comments, but it's pretty clear she didn't know all the information and the facts about what happened to kevin/jean were so muddled anyway i don't really understand how you guys wanted her to respond. also note that andrew, neil and kevin also don't have the most gentle and sensitive responses to trauma either and yet they never get as much hate as thea does. which is insane btw. i love the boys but actually let this woman REST.

tldr thea isn't my favourite character but i feel the need to defend her because this fandom sometimes makes me genuinely crash out. she is NOT a fucking predator and she is also a victim of the nest. while she's not perfect she's also a character we know next to nothing about and the amount of hate she receives is actually batshit. sorry idc.

[ludolka]

More thoughts, now about H&HAU (grumbo relationship edition)

So in this AU, Mumbo’s an orphan who got adopted by the now retired top hero Xisuma (aka the Void) who is now the CEO of the biggest hero agency. Xisuma was always very busy and he prioritized his work over Mumbo, which became more and more apparent as he grew up. Xisuma had in mind for Mumbo to also become a hero, but that didn’t go far as Mumbo wasn’t fit for that career. Their relationship got even more strained when HotGuy first started working alongside the Void, who was like the son Xisuma always wanted

All that to say that Mumbo has abandonment issues and has always been an overachiever, who just wants someone to want and love him. He expects everyone around him to be constantly disappointed in him and leave him because of it

Come Grian, someone who is very traumatized and has a lot of issues of his own that he refuses to work through because he’s so damn stubborn and thinks if he pushes hard enough, his problems will just go away on their own

They work surprisingly well together, their personalities complement each other perfectly. Mumbo’s very patient, lenient, understanding, anxious and hates confrontation. Grian’s kind of a control freak, he’s stubborn, hard headed, but also very loyal, affectionate and caring. Both are very emotional, but in different ways. While Mumbo stresses over everything, Grian is confident and practical in dealing with every little problem. Grian has a short temper, Mumbo is patient enough to handle his tantrums. Grian wants to constantly have control over everything and Mumbo gets anxious over every decision he has to make, no matter how big or small

They aren’t the healthiest couple out there, both are rather possessive and codependent on each other

Mumbo knows pretty much everything there is to know about Grian. He probably knows him more than the man himself. And he has a lot of issues justifying and defending everything Grian does or has done. He knows about his extensive criminal past, about his bloodlust, about how violent he can get when he’s angry. But he has also always been so gentle and kind and loving with Mumbo. He’s been the only person in Mumbo’s life who not only hasn’t left him in over 7 years, but who also constantly reassures and praises him

So Mumbo is like his biggest apologist and a total ride-or-die. To the point that even the other few people who are close enough to Grian to know about the shit he does/has done give him the side eye

I believe that while Mumbo full heartedly believes that everything Grian does is justified and explainable and not that bad, there’s also a part of him that is terrified that Grian would leave him if he didn’t defend him. He sort of believes that giving up his moral compass is the price for love and acceptance

And Grian does feel bad watching Mumbo sometimes struggle with rationalizing what he’s done. He tries to be better for him and Mumbo is pretty much the only person Grian listens to. So Mumbo has become sort of an impulse control/self restraint/moral compass for him. He also reassures Mumbo that he won’t leave or love him any less if he argues or scolds him

They are both flawed people who are selfish and who are emotionally dependent on the other. Mumbo needs to feel needed, wanted, important and loved. Grian needs someone to stabilize him and make him feel like he isn’t a monster. He needs to be comforted after doing something terrible, even when he knows full well he doesn’t deserve comfort and Mumbo is more than willing to give him that without judgement

[eisforeidolon]

This is why wincest shippers are definitely homophobic.

you people literally find incest exciting, the thing that gets you off is the wrongness of it.

you are not shipping a m/m pairing because you are proud allies to the lgbt+ comunity, you ship it because you think of homosexuality as something wrong, and you can only acept it as part of something as sick as incest.

wincest is not about Sam and Dean being gay, is about them being sick, psychologically damaged beyond repair, is about the codependency and not being able to have a normal relationship.

shipping wincest clearly means you don't see being gay as something positive. You see it as something that results from psychological damage. hence, you are homophobic.

Congrats, this is as ignorant as any moronic heller food meta I've ever read, and trying twice as hard to be offensive. However, given the amount of pathetic projection and puritan damage issues you clearly have going on, it's impossible to take seriously. [sad trombone]

Your problem is that you're so desperately trying to pretend shipping is activism and not only inherently signals a person's moral compass, but actually matters even one whit to real life. Possibly to validate your complete lack of actual contributions in real life or try to mitigate your lack of control in it. Except that's a fool's game, because it isn't and it doesn't. Fiction and reality are interrelated on a number of levels, but you are expressing a particularly daft child's idea of how that works. "I like gud wholesum thing, I are gud! U like bad weird thing, U evul n bad, wahhhhh!" Isn't it past your bedtime?

Getting off to the idea of something vaguely Jensen-shaped screwing something vaguely Misha-shaped says exactly sweet fuck-all about being an ally to the LGBT+ community, it's just about personal fantasies. Demanding it's vErY ImPOrTAnT fOr RePrESEnTAShUn!!! those particular fictional characters do it on tv not only doesn't make someone an ally, it makes them a self-centered tool trying to USE the LGBT+ community as a transparent justification for, again, THEIR OWN PERSONAL prurient desires. Trying to pretend otherwise is an inherently flawed, transparently self-serving framework that I haven't seen anyone else in this fandom buy into, yet your entire message is predicated on it.

You know what actually makes someone a good ally? Actually being a good fucking ally. Standing up for and supporting REAL people. Donating time and money in REAL LIFE. Not what you do or don't imagine in regards to fictional fucking characters for fun. But your ilk make it clear over and over you don't care about that half as much as demanding ownership of fictional characters and creating your own rules to feel morally superior to others with all the authority, understanding, relevance, and self-awareness of a toddler in a strop.

Which is how you send an ask like this without realizing how deeply fucking embarrassing it is.

[cemetegee]

Palamedes' Extremely Obvious Flaws

It sometimes happens to me that I read a post which says that Palamedes flaws would be very subtle. Things that then come as an example are for example something as:

"He is an idealistic lad."

And to be honest: I though for a quite long time that was true. But now I see that it's not true at all. The flaws are VERY obvious, and it's our fault we don't see them. Because we're biased and don't want to see them. There are many things he does and says that are even pointed out in the text as being strange. For example this one:

IF EVEN IANTHE RECOGNIZES THAT YOU ARE WEIRDLY CODEPENDENT WITH YOUR COUSIN you do something wrong... And melting together with said cousin doesn't prove your point either lol. I like Paul, but melting together with someone is obviously born from the Horrors of Love.

(That's by the way so hypocritical... I mean, why has he killed Cytherea if not because he thought she was bad (and hurt him.) He says this and does that.)

And the fact that he expects Camilla to die for him (theoretically) isn't explicitly pointed out as being a flaw, but insane when you think about it for a second:

Or here:

WHAT DO YOU MEAN, you would hide every corpse if just Cam had mudered it??? "Cam is always right" jokes aside, Cam is obviously not always right. I think it's because he's grown up in a comparatively shelteres environment and therefore doesn't know that, but even people we love can do awful things. (He can't imagine that and that's a serious problem, because such beliefs... dadadudummm... protect perpetrators.)

He's biased. There's no reason to assume Ianthe had no idea of necromancy, why do you think that?

And his claim that you wouldn't be responsible for the consequences of your actions is... questionable as well. I mean, you obviously are not responsible for consequences you can't expect. Coincidentally, he brings only such examples:

(What's by the way so hypocritical... I mean, he does things which are obviously guided by a moral compass all the time. (Like the good boy he is hehe. I like him very much.) What "there is no good and bad" my little academic? He says this and does that.)

But of course you are responsible for the consequences your actions lead to (to a certain degree), if you can expect them and do it nonetheless. (If it's nothing like, I don't know, provoking your tormentor or something. Or being victim of manipulation.) That doesn't even mean you have to avoid them, it just means your responsible to a certain degree.

He is a leader of one of the Nine Houses. That's very obvious, but we don't like to think about it, so it doesn't exist for us. Surely he has done awful things in the name of his House. AND SO ON.

Pal is a sympathetic person. Like Cam or Gideon. That's why we want to assume the best of him. And look over his flaws. But he has a lot of them, and some of them are even extremely obvious. It's connected to OUR view how we perceive a character. But honestly... I can see all those flaws, and I don't care if he's a good boy or not. People don't have to be perfect for me to like them.

(The best example is actually my Ianthe stan account. I have a view on Ianthe, that's based on much considerations... But I'll openly admit that I'll decide to her favor if something is not really clear! Because I like her. An other person with the same knowledge would surely come do different conclusions at some points...)

[cammiko-arts]

Do you see any similarities in the behavior of the duo Timon and Pumbaa and Pinky and the Brain?

HELL YEAH. Both pairs are hella weird about each other and a lil bit (a lotta bit???) homoerotic. 😮‍💨

Exhibit A:

Exhibit B:

HAAAAAA.

Okay, in all seriousness, yeah I do think there are some similarities other than them just being AMBIGUOUSLY GAY WEIRDOS. (Although this might be a better question for @timona-lisa because, although l'm also a lifelong PatB fan, she's way deeper in the Brinky trenches than I am!!! Hi Ai! 👀)

ANYWAYS, I'm assuming you wanted a serious answer and not me just being Old Man Yaoi trash, SOOOO. Let me just put on my Professor Glasses™ really quickly 👓

They are both kind of… “odd couple” comedic duos, aren’t they? Contrasting personalities that make them fun to watch interact with one another. Pinky and Brain are more the “straight man and the fool” archetype, whereas Timon and Pumbaa lean more into that “odd couple” dynamic, although they are certainly the “straight man and the fool” as well, but with a twist (the “smart one” doubling as the fool, in Timon’s case.)

Both duos fit the “schemer and heartfelt innocent” archetype as well, with Timon and the Brain both being planners, sarcastic, and bossy, and Pumbaa and Pinky both being sincere, literal-minded, gentle optimists that sucker punch their other halves with emotional insight and unexpected wisdom.

Timon and the Brain both believe they are the smartest ones in the room, and they both carry a very similar core flaw in that their egos blind them to the intelligence of their partners. However, with Timon, this “ego” of his is more fueled by fear, insecurity, shame, and the NEED to be indispensable so he won’t be abandoned.

The Brain, in contrast, seems to be more fueled by a need for control over his situation, especially given his identity as a genius lab mouse in a world full of nonsensical cartoon antics. And there is, perhaps, something to be said about the way his schemes always fail, almost like he enjoys PLANNING world dominion with Pinky more than actually SUCCEEDING in world dominion. (BUT, I’m sure someone more well-versed in Pinky and Brain’s dynamic could give a more insightful answer than me—I’m more of the Timon and Pumbaa over-analyzer, here.)

And then you have Pumbaa and Pinky, who both kind of act as the emotional intelligence and moral compass of the duos. They are both pure-hearted, deeply loyal, and sorely underestimated by their counterparts. Pumbaa, on the surface, seems to be more naive and slow-witted, but he’s hiding a deeply emotionally intelligent core that is worldly, wise, and insightful.

Pinky is a lot more fast-moving, fast-talking, and chaotic than Pumbaa, and while he often spouts nonsense, he’s oddly self-aware about it??? And he also hides an emotionally intelligent and wise side, just like Pumbaa, that keeps Brain grounded.

And then the fun thing is that both duos invert the viewer’s expectation of who is actually in control. Like, Timon THINKS he’s the brains of the outfit, but Pumbaa carries both of them emotionally and morally. And Brain thinks he’s the leader, but Pinky is constantly either derailing or even accidentally improving his plans.

Also, it has to be said that BOTH duos share a deep, weird, codependent love for the other that can withstand just about ANYTHING.

Anyways, I love them. I ache for them.

And Brain and Timon are more similar than they realize, and BOTH OF THEM would hate that I said that. 🤣

[scoobydoodean]

am I the only one who thinks the very existence of crossroad demons in canon makes it clear that selling your soul for someone else is not even something that's particularly unhinged? they have people out there making demon deals for far less than bringing a family member back from the dead lol it's just that demons are very invested in fucking with the winchesters and poking at dean's perceived neediness and vulnerability and his and sam's codependency. maybe it's just terminal deangirlism but I have never really bought into him being particularly needy or clingy I think he's baseline normal but everyone else acts like he's smothering them

Context

Copying my tags also:

Dean's main way of saving Sam is by sacrificing himself? And I think a lot of that reflects Dean's struggles with depression and suicidal ideation. Sam isn't the only one Dean has been shown to be willing to sacrifice himself for when he was at a low point. He was ready to die for Layla in 1.12 and he was ready to die in 13.05. Both emotional low points where he was struggling with his own sense of worth. 2.22 is a low point Dean has been building to all season. His worsening depression is very clear. 9.01 is simply... severely misinterpreted in terms of Dean's perspective. He risks his life every day. He stood between max and his mom in 1.14 also with a gun pointed at his chest

And yeah people in SPN make demon deals a lot. Sam says he tried to make a demon deal to get Dean back in 4.01, but no demon would deal. He also tried to re-open the Devil's Gate from 2.22 (which would let out hundreds of demons yet again to wreak havoc on the world). John made a demon deal to save Dean's life, and many fans don't even think he cares about Dean. Bobby made one, Bela made one, etc.

I could go through the whole show to prove Dean being a Needy and Clingy and Smothering person simply is not accurate... or, because I'm tired of making up people's arguments for them and proving a negative by going through a whole show is very annoying (and I am technically already doing that very extensively through a series of searchable tags), I could just say fans who think this way are incorrect.

If they don't think they are, they're welcome to give me examples of Dean actually being a uniquely horribly needy and clingy and desperate and demanding person who forces people to stay with him forever and ever because he doesn't care what they want and desperately wants to control their lives. I've certainly seen people try to make the argument before, but without fail each time they point to examples that are 1) not even remotely unique to Dean (and he's usually the weakest example and I can think of multiple for other characters showing behavior that is objectively more extreme) 2) presented in an intentionally misleading or mind-blowingly out of context manner 3) woefully (and often rather deliberately) mischaracterizes Dean's motivations.

Anyway, feel free to stream related tags I track:

#sams motivations

#taurus sam in the flesh

#In which Sam is not a helpless little waif with his hands cast over his eyes being carried along by the tides of the immutable sea

#sam the hunter

#sams moral compass

#projecting displaced aggression and scapegoating in spn

spn revisionisms

#demons lie

#youre such a control freak

[frozen-fountain]

Since the feature is due to be discontinued along with much else of what made the site worth using, I got possibly my last ever Reddit award for this analysis of Reeve/Cait Sith I wrote a couple of months ago. I thought I'd commemorate it here, too. Here's why my view of the character is essentially the joke about Cait being a fursona but like, taken seriously:

"Cait Sith's a weird one. I'm not surprised the character is as unpopular as he is because the execution is pretty bizarre, the rest of the party's reaction to both his tagging along and his betrayal are underwritten which adds to the weirdness, and I'm not going to try to defend his gameplay mechanics here - but from a narrative standpoint, I think there's stuff worth digging into. Especially when you consider the man behind the controller.

Regarding the Temple of the Ancients - I think the melodrama of it is purposeful. To all intents and purposes it plays like the typical Hollywood noble sacrifice, a redemptive moment for this creature before the end... and then his replacement comes along, making a big joke out of the moment. The purpose, as I see it, is to contrast Aerith's death as well as many of the others we see on screen. They all meet their ends in ways that are sudden and brutal and don't leave time for last words or moments of closure. I think it's a brilliant addition to what the game is saying about the transience of life and unromanticised inevitability of death.

As for the betrayal (and not to mention the part where a four-year-old girl is taken hostage), yep, that was a lousy thing to do. So was Vincent being a contract killer, Cloud and Tifa and especially Barret disregarding collateral damage and innocent bodies during the reactor bombings, and Cid heaping years of verbal abuse onto a woman who feels codependently indebted to him. They're all broken people in impossible situations left with no recourse, and in the case of Cait and his handler, I think it's easy to imagine Reeve looking on what he's doing as helping to not make a bad situation worse. He can keep Marlene safe from potentially cruel treatment by his peers while maybe doing his part to bring a dangerous guerrilla group to heel. It's still wrong, and I don't agree his methods are either moral or effective - but he's the same as everyone else in the game and doing the best he can with the inadequate hand he has.

And in a story that examines the toll a brutally hierarchical society like the one Shinra imposes on the world takes on the people in it, and the difficulty in resisting it in meaningful ways that don't cause a heap of collateral damage, Reeve is there to represent the futility of trying to change such a system that's already so far gone from the inside. We see him bullied by his coworkers for being such a dreamy idealist as to suggest maybe not crushing thousands upon thousands of people to death to increase the chance of apprehending six, and he then has to watch as the city he worked so hard to improve is treated as a disposable thing to destroy at will. He's also only thirty-five years old, which is terribly young to be in as high a position as he is. So what can we infer about this little-seen character from the avatar that joins the party?

The boundary between headcanon and reading between the lines starts to blur here. But I think to be an engineer, or a scientist of any stripe, you've got to have a streak of imagination and whimsy about you. I've always imagined Reeve, college-aged at best, showing up for work in the resplendent Shinra Tower and immediately boxing away his youth to act professional. And over the years, one moral after another joins his childhood in being repressed and squashed down so he can do his job on the faint promise he can leverage his position to change things for the better. And I think we're meant to see Cait Sith as an alter-ego and manifestation of this - something childlike, which is what the world keeps telling Reeve his moral compass is. His time observing Avalanche makes him question this, and over time, he sees he has people in the party who might genuinely care for him in a way the Shinra higher-ups he's been surrounded by never will. If you take a moment in each scene to imagine what's going on in Reeve's head as he sits alone, weighing it all up, his robot becomes a fantastic addition to the story and a necessary layer to its political commentary.

I am admittedly also a cat lady, though, so perhaps there's some bias creeping in."

I imagine I meant to get into how I see the multiple Cait models as a reflection of Reeve's fear of being replaceable and disposable in the aftermath of the plate drop, and then an affirmation of the opposite ("There's only one me!") as he starts to reintegrate his whole self in the wake of changing allegiances, but apparently that fell by the wayside. My point is that I love the game for daring to make the emotions underpinning a major character's redemptive plotline exist almost entirely between the lines, though it's also hard not to want to see that journey play out. Hence writing fic about it, I suppose.

[trapny]

I've been watching a letsplay of "The Coffin of Andy and Leyley" and I love it.

Spoilers underneath ↓↓ because I accidentally wrote a multi-paragraph media analysis again

The game is a modern Gothic horror. The horror doesn't really come from any monster for most of the story. Instead it comes from the dread and tension of the story.

And it's also incredibly masterful character writing. They wrote a manipulative sociopath who's codependent with a guy that has extreme PTSD and some kind of protection complex, and they wrote them into a perfect sibling dynamic.

The whole incest thing, while seeming just to be fanservice at first, (and maybe it is,) actually adds to the Gothic horror element with that drop of "taboo sexuality". There's so many different kinds of tension going on and despite the game being almost entirely dialogue based, it's still manages to be incredibly riveting and suspenseful.

The dynamics between the characters are great, and every aspect of how the siblings act and think makes perfect sense with their backstory.

Ashley grew up in a neglectful home, in a world that is proven to be very rude. Like, the nicest people that are interacted with are literal cultists. On top of that, she's pretty clearly a sociopath or something of the sort. Being that she is a sociopath, and also was too neglected to ever really learn and adopt a moral compass, it makes sense that she would latch on to the one person in the world that actually values her, that being Andrew.

And Andrew is so messed up also. He's cursing by the time he's like ten which already isn't a good start, and then he got peer pressured into literally killing someone. And then after that, he literally makes a blood oath with his younger sister that blackmails him forever into staying with her.

The two characters were probably already hopelessly codependent on each other, but considering they were quarantined together for what is implied to possibly be more than a year (and also in an organ and blood harvesting facility, mind you) and by the time we meet them in story, Andrew is just about to get dumped by his girlfriend which is his only contact with another person.

That's just the start of the extreme circumstances.

Taking their codependence and leaving them in a box for over a year with each other being their only human contact while they are literally starving to death in a fake quarantine in the middle of a city full of the rudest people possible, it's literally no wonder that the neglected sociopath and the PTSD golden child are pushed past their limits and literally resort to eating someone just to survive.

The story is a tragedy, but it's more similar to "death of a salesman" than it is to any classic plays.

They start at rock bottom, starving in an apartment. And then they get handed two pickaxes, two headlamps, and a large serving of human flesh.

[agender-witchery]

Very good take. I really wish we had more people like you in this fandom. Andrew and Ashley are just doing their thing, no one’s yelling at their tv telling Patrick Bateman or Michael Myers to “Stop ti! That’s wrong!” And I think the same should apply here. We shouldn’t shy away from the subject matter of the game, trying to make it sound appealing to people who hate it with a passion is the wrong approach. Being open about the real essence of the game will bring more thoughtful discussions about it instead of just denying it and being flabbergasted when it becomes obvious it is about incest and the game doesn’t take a negative stance on it. Everytime there’s a new preview about the next chapter there’s a lot of people who can’t believe they’re seeing them being weird and suggestive with each other. I’m happy it has incest, that’s a good thing actually.

One thing discussions about the game highlight I think it’s that Reddit has horrible takes about everything, it’s more noticeable in this game since they can’t wrap their head around this one in the slightest but it happens with all kinds of things.

I will say there are a fair few people on reddit who are willing to actually engage with the game itself rather than the controversy around it. There are good discussions to be had on the subreddit, it's just that like 90% of the subreddit is incest porn or incest memes.

One thing that engaging in those discussions (as well as watching vods from when a vtuber I like played through the game) made me realize is that Ashley is like... written as a person? She's a character with emotions who is more than just "zany psychopath who likes cannibalism and manipulation". She genuinely cares for Andrew, but because she's abusive and the least well adjusted person alive, that manifests, uh, poorly. That's part of what makes the familial abuse feel like it has weight to it. Sometimes abuse comes from a place of genuine caring but without the ability to do it in a way that's, y'know, not abusive.

She tries to force him into the box of Andy, because she's afraid that Andrew might not need her, and if he doesn't need her, he might leave. Her manipulation and control isn't purely about exerting power over her brother, there's an actual goal there. She doesn't feel like she can live without him for one reason or another, and so she does what she feels like she has to in order to force him to stay. She blackmails him, she gaslights him, she forces him into terrible situations, and that's largely because she has no moral compass and doesn't know what else to do.

Andrew on the other hand isn't actually much better. On first glance, he seems better, but he's actually just better at hiding it. He actually has something that resembles a conscience, although that's mostly a "how do I escape the consequences of my actions" tool for him. He puts effort into appearing normal even though we see that actually being normal isn't exactly high on his priorities in the Burial route. Andrew sees right the fuck through Ashley's manipulation, but he lets it happen anyway because he doesn't have to face himself if everything is Ashley's fault.

This is why so much of the incest is more palpable when things are from Andrew's perspective, because while Ashley has the excuse that she's just doing it to get under his skin, Andrew doesn't have that excuse. He doesn't have an excuse when he admits to himself that he doesn't have nightmares nearly as often as he claims, he doesn't have an excuse for why he holds his sister like that, or why he puts his hand on her ass as if it's the most normal thing for him to do. Both of these people are absolute messes, and their relationship is described as a codependency for a reason.

[matchaflavored]

what was it abt trrd that makes u rly like their dynamic? what tropes do they hit on the viola barometer

OMG yani... u r seriously a real one. love u. I will talk in place of myself from three years ago, when I was in that weird period where I was testing the waters between character dynamics in twst. The very first episode with Heartslabyul absolutely hit me like a truck. I wasn't really expecting the writing to be as compelling as it was (despite being a Yana fan and being diehard for her work, the Disney branding made me not take it very seriously), and I was like, oh wow, realistic toxic relationships between teenagers with no autonomy over their emotions and circumstances?! This rules! And you can apply this to a lot of the dynamics in twst, but besides the fact that treyrid is the very first one you encounter, I find Trey himself a refreshingly unique character. I guess a lot of people enjoy more emotionally transparent characters, because it feels affirming and enjoyable to see certain dynamics expressed a certain way, but when there was only like four stories out for each character I was like 'Wow, for a guy who gets defensive about people questioning him about Riddle, a lot of the fundamentals of his character and motivations revolves around Riddle!'. 'But Viola! He's been openly exasperated, dare I say, even annoyed at Riddle! And not in the funny bickering yaoi way, also doesn't placating as a motivation make Trey's feelings towards Riddle artificial!' I was super surprised too when I read his stories (in a good way)! Can this man both love someone and resent what he's going through by proxy of that person's uncontrollable circumstances? The answer is yes! And so much material support these conflicting feelings that I feel like are attuned to more realistic relationships. That was, by far, the biggest appeal to me. Conflict in relationships can be more than just aimless bickering but "oh the bickering is actually because they totes have the hots for each other!". It's unspoken words, self-doubt... it's questioning who you are and who they are. Their relationship is imperfect, by account of something that is out of their control, but they choose to care and support one another unconditionally. Trope wise... treyrid was (is? it's more was) somewhat a codependency, in which Riddle used Trey as an emotional tether and Trey took advantage of Riddle's superficial vices in order to subdue his guilt over he and Riddle's shared trauma. A queen and her knight... but in the end, both of them know they're above those experiences and the influence they have in each other's lives is definitely a net positive. Omg I know you don't go here but even if this is like the baseline there's still so much about them that makes me go crazy... You know how Kircheis met Reinhard as a kid and went 'I, with my tiny child body, have decided that I will dedicate my life to support this other kid whose life sucks because I see that they are more than that.' That is literally what happened with Trey and Riddle when they were kids. Insane power tripped pretty boy with his kind gentle giant friend who acts as his moral compass for a majority of their appearances together. Said friend also challenged pretty boy's authority and pretty boy felt betrayed because they felt like the unconditional bond they had was breaking. Good stuff.

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120 ULTIMATE LIST OF CHARACTER FLAWS. Bold what applies to your Muse! Tagged By: A little Wildbirdie ! Tagging: @skarletchains @kiigan @gyofukuki @saiakv @kylo-wrecked @muddsludge @zaeltry @distortedkilling @lightfaithed @soulfulempathy @bewitchingbaker ...and YOU!

1. Moral Flexibility - Adapts their ethics to fit the situation, often justifying questionable actions as necessary.

2. Cognitive Dissonance - Holds two conflicting beliefs or values and struggles to reconcile them, leading to inner turmoil.

3. Overempathy - Feels others’ emotions too intensely, leading to burnout or an inability to make objective decisions.

4. Intellectual Arrogance - Dismisses others’ ideas as inferior, believing their own intellect is superior.

5. Chronic Overthinking - Analyzes situations to the point of paralysis, unable to take decisive action.

6. Restless Wanderlust - Has a constant desire for change or travel, leading to instability in relationships or careers.

7. Savior Complex - Feels compelled to “save” others, often to the detriment of their own well-being or others’ autonomy.

8. Emotional Vampirism - Drains others emotionally, needing constant validation or attention.

9. Righteous Indignation - Becomes excessively angry over perceived injustices, often alienating others.

10. Altruistic Self-Destruction - Sacrifices themselves for others to an unhealthy degree, often leading to self-neglect.

11. Pathological Modesty - Downplays their own achievements to the point of self-sabotage or invisibility.

12. Incapable of Solitude - Feels an intense fear of being alone, leading to codependent or unhealthy relationships.

13. Over-Rationalization - Justifies every action or decision, even when it’s clearly flawed, to avoid guilt or responsibility.

14. Constant Self-Sabotage - Subconsciously undermines their own success due to deep-seated fears or insecurities.

15. Misplaced Loyalty - Stays loyal to people or causes even when it’s harmful or undeserved.

16. Ethical Rigidity - Follows their moral code to the letter, unable to adapt to complex or gray situations.

17. Need for Obscurity - Prefers to stay unnoticed or in the background, avoiding recognition or responsibility.

18. Involuntary Aloofness - Appears distant or disinterested, often without meaning to, leading to misunderstandings.

19. Fear of Mediocrity - Terrified of being ordinary, they constantly strive for greatness, often leading to burnout.

20. Rejection Sensitivity - Overreacts to criticism or perceived slights, often withdrawing or lashing out.

21. Conflict Avoidance - Avoids confrontation at all costs, leading to unresolved issues and resentment.

22. Over-idealization of Others - Puts people on pedestals, only to be deeply disappointed when they don’t meet expectations.

23. Chronically Unfulfilled - No matter what they achieve, they always feel something is missing, leading to constant searching.

24. Compulsive Truth-Telling - Feels compelled to speak the truth, even when it would be kinder or wiser to remain silent.

25. Overactive Imagination - Sees threats or possibilities where there are none, leading to anxiety or missed opportunities.

26. Faux Humility - Pretends to be humble but secretly craves admiration or validation.

27. Micromanagement - Needs to control every detail, often suffocating others or hindering their own progress.

28. Anachronistic Thinking - Clings to outdated beliefs or practices, struggling to adapt to modern realities.

29. Over-Reliance on Routine - Becomes anxious or lost without their routines, struggling to adapt to change.

30. Selective Memory - Remembers events in a way that suits their narrative, often distorting the truth.

31. Paradoxical Fear of Success - Desires success but subconsciously fears the changes or responsibilities it might bring.

32. Compassion Fatigue - Once empathetic, now numbed or indifferent due to overwhelming exposure to others’ suffering.

33. Overwhelming Nostalgia - Lives in the past, unable to move forward or appreciate the present.

34. Unyielding Perfectionism - So focused on flawlessness that they struggle to complete tasks or accept anything less than perfect.

35. Epistemic Arrogance - Believes they know everything worth knowing, dismissing the possibility of learning from others.

36. Excessive Hedonism - Pursues pleasure to the point of neglecting responsibilities or moral considerations.

37. Over-Cautiousness - So afraid of making mistakes that they rarely take action, leading to missed opportunities.

38. Idealistic Naivety - Believes the world should operate according to their ideals, often clashing with reality.

39. Ambition without Direction - Desires greatness but has no clear path or plan, leading to frustration and failure.

40. Emotional Transference - Projects unresolved emotions onto others, often misinterpreting their intentions or actions.

41. Overdependence on Routine - Becomes anxious or lost without their routines, struggling to adapt to change.

42. Misplaced Guilt - Feels responsible for things outside of their control, leading to unnecessary self-blame.

43. Fear of Being Ordinary - Constantly strives to stand out, often at the expense of authenticity or well-being.

44. Chronic Indecisiveness - Struggles to make even simple decisions, constantly second-guessing themselves.

45. Faux Cynicism - Pretends to be jaded or cynical as a defense mechanism, while secretly caring deeply.

46. Romanticization of Suffering - Believes that suffering is noble or meaningful, often rejecting happiness or comfort.

47. Selective Compassion - Empathetic towards some but completely indifferent or cold to others, often based on biases.

48. Avoidant Optimism - Avoids negative thoughts or situations, clinging to an unrealistic positivity that ignores real problems.

49. Fear of Abandonment - Clings to relationships out of fear of being left alone, often leading to unhealthy dynamics.

50. Overidentification with Work - Sees their job as their entire identity, struggling with self-worth outside of work.

51. Excessive Altruism - Sacrifices their own needs to help others, often to their own detriment.

52. Self-Imposed Isolation - Withdraws from others out of fear of rejection or misunderstanding, leading to loneliness.

53. Over-Analysis Paralysis - Overthinks every situation to the point of being unable to make decisions or take action.

54. Eternal Romantic - Sees the world through a lens of idealized love, often leading to disillusionment or heartbreak.

55. Emotional Incontinence - Struggles to control their emotions, often overwhelming others with their intensity.

56. Fear of Aging - Obsessed with youth, they go to great lengths to deny or hide the aging process.

57. Intellectual Cowardice - Avoids challenging their own beliefs or ideas, sticking to what they know out of fear of change.

58. Emotional Hoarding - Holds onto past hurts or grudges, unable to let go and move on.

59. Unquenchable Curiosity - Always needs to know more, often prying into others’ lives or crossing boundaries.

60. Romantic Escapism - Uses fantasy or daydreams as a way to avoid dealing with reality, leading to detachment.

61. Masochistic Tendencies - Deliberately seeks out situations that cause them pain or discomfort, believing they deserve it.

62. Incurable Wanderer - Can never settle down, always moving on to the next place or experience, leading to rootlessness.

63. Dependency on Validation - Needs constant approval or praise from others to feel good about themselves.

64. Constant Self-Reinvention - Continuously changes their identity or persona, never settling on who they truly are.

65. Moral Masochism - Finds satisfaction in self-punishment or guilt, often holding themselves to impossible standards.

66. Faux Bravado - Pretends to be fearless or confident to hide deep-seated insecurities or fears.

67. Over-romanticization of the Past - Idealizes past experiences, believing that things were better back then, leading to dissatisfaction with the present.

68. Chronic Hedging - Never fully commits to decisions or actions, always leaving themselves an escape route.

69. Fear of Stagnation - Constantly needs to be doing something or moving forward, fearing they’ll become irrelevant or bored.

70. Over-Attachment to Objects - Places excessive sentimental value on material possessions, struggling to let go.

71. Emotional Stoicism - Refuses to show or acknowledge emotions, leading to repression and eventual breakdowns.

72. Self-Flagellation - Constantly punishes themselves for perceived failures or mistakes, often disproportionate to the actual events.

73. Fear of the Unknown - Terrified of what they can’t predict or control, leading to anxiety or avoidance of new experiences.

74. Romantic Pessimism - Believes that love or relationships are doomed to fail, leading to self-sabotage or cynicism.

75. Intellectual Purism - Believes in the superiority of “pure” intellectual pursuits, often dismissing practical or emotional concerns.

76. Existential Dread - Obsesses over the meaning (or lack thereof) of life, leading to paralysis or despair.

77. Involuntary Nonconformity- Desires to fit in but can’t help standing out or going against the grain, often feeling alienated.

78. Self-Imposed Martyrdom - Puts themselves in a position of suffering or sacrifice, believing it’s their duty or fate.

79. Idealized Self-Image - Clings to an unrealistic self-concept, struggling to accept their flaws or limitations.

80. Compulsive Honesty - Feels compelled to always tell the truth, even when it’s hurtful or inappropriate.

81. Over-Reliance on Technology - Becomes helpless without modern conveniences, struggling to cope with real-world challenges.

82. Moral Exhibitionism - Shows off their ethics or principles to gain admiration or moral superiority, often insincerely.

83. Perpetual Student Syndrome - Always learning but never applying knowledge, avoiding real-world responsibilities.

84. Emotional Osmosis - Absorbs others’ emotions so deeply that they lose track of their own feelings or needs.

85. Pathological Frugality - So obsessed with saving money or resources that they miss out on life’s joys or opportunities.

86. Obsessive Self-Improvement - Never satisfied with themselves, constantly striving for unattainable perfection.

87. False Modesty - Pretends to be humble while fishing for compliments or validation.

88. Uncontrolled Impulsiveness - Acts on whims or impulses without considering the consequences, leading to chaos or regret.

89. Chronic Hedonism - Lives only for pleasure, often to the detriment of their long-term happiness or relationships.

90. Overly Abstract Thinking - So focused on big ideas or concepts that they lose touch with reality or practical concerns.

91. Romantic Idealism - Believes in a perfect love or relationship, often leading to disappointment or disillusionment.

92. Selective Altruism - Only helps others when it suits them, often ignoring those who don’t fit their criteria.

93. Pathological Shyness - So shy or introverted that they struggle to function in social situations, often missing out on opportunities.

94. Moral Superiority - Believes they are more ethical or righteous than others, often looking down on those who don’t share their views.

95. Over-identification with a Role - Sees themselves only as their job, family role, or social identity, losing sight of their true self.

96. Chronic Complaining - Constantly finds something to complain about, often bringing others down or creating a negative atmosphere.

97. Faux Stoicism - Pretends to be emotionally strong or unaffected, while secretly struggling with deep emotional turmoil.

98. Addiction to Drama - Thrives on conflict or chaos, often creating drama where there is none to feel alive or important.

99. Obsessive Collecting - Gathers possessions, knowledge, or experiences obsessively, often unable to let go or move on.

100. Inflexible Optimism - Refuses to acknowledge negative possibilities, often unprepared for setbacks or challenges.

101. Contrarianism - Always takes the opposite stance just to challenge others, often without genuine conviction.

102. Emotional Projection - Attributes their own feelings or issues onto others, often leading to misunderstandings.

103. Compulsive Heroism - Feels the need to be seen as heroic or brave, even in situations that don’t call for it.

104. Spiritual Narcissism - Uses spirituality as a way to feel superior to others or to avoid personal flaws.

105. Self-Defeating Humor - Constantly makes jokes at their own expense, using humor to deflect serious issues.

106. Identity Fluidity - Frequently changes their identity or beliefs to fit in with different groups, losing a sense of true self.

107. Overattachment to the Past - Can’t move on from past successes or failures, allowing them to define their present.

108. Pseudointellectualism - Pretends to know more than they do, using complex language or ideas to impress others.

109. Overidealization of Youth - Places youth on a pedestal, often dismissing the value of experience or aging.

110. Refusal to Accept Help - Rejects assistance from others, believing they must do everything on their own, even to their detriment.

111. Emotional Manipulation - Uses guilt, pity, or other emotions to control or influence others, often without realizing it.

112. Inconsistent Values - Holds contradictory beliefs or morals, leading to confusion or hypocrisy in their actions.

113. Obsession with Legacy - So focused on how they’ll be remembered that they neglect the present or make unwise choices.

114. Excessive Eagerness to Please - Goes out of their way to make others happy, often at the cost of their own needs or principles.

115. Emotionally Guarded - Builds walls around their feelings, making it difficult for others to get close or understand them.

116. Selective Memory - Chooses to remember events in a way that favors them, often distorting the truth.

117. Overattachment to Authority - Relies heavily on rules or leaders, struggling to make decisions independently or question authority.

118. Fear of Vulnerability - Avoids showing weakness or asking for help, leading to isolation or burnout.

119. Intellectual Detachment - Approaches everything with cold logic, often ignoring the emotional or human side of situations.

120. Obsession with Control - Needs to control every aspect of their life and others’, often leading to stress or strained relationships.

[chushanye]

i'm like 99.9% sure i've made a post about this before but there is a pairing that absolutely drives me nuts bonkers insane and i absolutely refuse to admit who they are. mostly 'cause i cannot emphasize enough how much i think them in-cannon is not romantic at all. nor do i want it to be. it's just the hypothetical of characters like that in the most codependent, pseudo-religious romantic entanglement of all time that i like.

it's one of them hyper religious bitches who are convinced they're evil and are gonna burn in hell being paired up with the closest thing a person can get to Jesus Christ. meanwhile Judas over here is supposed to be the mentor/coach. so both of them idolize the other, one for religious/moral reasons, the other for skills.

so mf #1 thinks that mf #2 in "untainted". he didn't have to suffer trauma, wasn't taught the worst ideology on earth from birth, never made an immoral decision in his life, etc. mf #2 is fighting tooth and nail to make #1 realize that he is no more "perfect" than #1 is "irredeemable". still #1 is convinced it is inevitable that he will find a way to ruin what they have. he's convinced it's in his nature to harm and maim, that he will drag the other down to hell with him. absolutely cannot just allow himself to be loved. meanwhile he adooores mf #2. has a downright obsessive need to have him in his life. and he legit doesn't even know what he's feeling - as in he genuinely cannot put words to it. all he knows is that there's awe, and there's this need and want - for what, he can't say.

and mf #2, in contrast, is so normal about him. to an extent. yes he has hero worship, but at the same time he sees #1 as just a deeply traumatized person, who was forced to act a certain way due to circumstances outside of his control, who is doing his best to reintegrate into society. he has so much patience and compassion and tries so hard to read through #1's gestures which can often be confusing and follow a logic of it's own making. and from his perspective #1 doesn't have a inferiority complex, but a superiority one. he keeps himself away not 'cause he think he'll corrupt those he loves, but because he's too good for them anyway. he wants #1 around because he likes him as a person. he liked being around him. something #1 can't comprehend.

and both of them fear the other wouldn't want to be in their life if they weren't useful in some way. both show affection in a way that the other finds odd. both are capable of being so judgmental, but also so tender and caring toward one another. if they made out it would make everything worse. but also would be some kind of release for all they feel for each other. idk i just. thoughts.

[foreststarflaime]

hmmm let’s go 1, 7, 18 for tifa!

Ooo Tifa!! Tyyy fae <3 I don’t talk about her as often but I do love her

1- Favourites thing(s) about this character?

Hmm lots of things to choose from…I like the freakish sort of codependency she has going on with Cloud (ahem @stargazing-zani always raves about this to me and she puts it better than I do) where she’s constantly chasing him even though he barely pays attention to her (outwardly) and they keep somehow running into each other. What is going on there that is Not Normal.

And then ofc not cis male fighting nerd that I am I love that she’s allowed to be a badass crazy good martial artist and actually be really scarily good and respected for it! Like for a massive portion if not all of my Remake playthrough she had a higher attack stat than Cloud. The enhanced super-soldier. I tremble to think of what she would be like enhanced. The world is not ready for enhanced Tifa, she would punch anything unsavory with the power of ten thousand gods and the plot would never happen

7- What do you like most about this character?

My fav fav thing about her (and I think I saw a post about this the other day) is how she really is not afraid to wear her heart on her sleeve. She always is worrying about everyone else, even people who aren’t exactly friendly to her like that Shinra middle manager she saves on the train in Remake. She isn’t afraid to be distressed and show fear for the people Avalanche hurts when the reactor attack goes wrong—she’s a great moral compass for the group. And she throws herself headfirst into danger without hesitation when they find out Shinra is going to drop the plate. I just love how much she cares and shows it!! So human of her!!!! Do what I am not brave enough to queen show vulnerability woooo

18- What’s something you associate this character with? E.g. a certain colour, object or scenery?

Ooo this is an interesting one! Hmmm made me think a bit longer. Going for something maybe a bit obscure, I associate her pretty closely with the Vibraphone (for those who don’t know—mallet percussion instrument, essentially a metal xylophone that can sustain sound for longer, usually silver or gold in color, the one doing the melody in the song below; also fun fact it was the instrument I played for 4 years in marching band)! I just remember listening to the soundtrack for the first time at the beginning of one marching season, getting to that rendition of her theme, and being like eyyy it’s the thing! It’s the instrument! And I do think it fits her so well—it’s such a soulful and pretty instrument that can be both really delicate and go hard when it needs to. Also my vibes were gold and that made me think of the Aerith flower she has in her bar.

[thepastisapebbleinmyshoe]

What Is a Narcissistic Sociopath?

Here are 10 signs:

1. They Live In a Deluded Reality

Narcissistic sociopaths don’t see the world in the same way other people do. In their distorted version of reality, they are entitled to whatever they want, regardless of what it takes to get it or who is hurt in the process. They will justify their actions, even ones that are inexcusable, and show no remorse. A sociopath’s narcissism may also lead them to develop delusions of grandeur about being important, special, or exceptional in some way. Or, they can experience paranoid delusions that others are out to get them.

2. They Are Obsessed With Power & Control

People with NPD and ADP are power-hungry. Sociopathic narcissists put a lot of time and effort into acquiring positions that give them power or control over people, bowling over anyone who gets in their way. Once they obtain control, they may demand to be addressed in a certain way or make others follow rules that don’t make sense. This obsession also tends to show up as a refusal to acknowledge any other authority, including rules, laws, policies, or requests made of them by others.

3. They Take Advantage of & Use Other People

Narcissistic sociopaths have a habit of using, exploiting, and taking advantage of others. This tendency shows up in all of their relationships, including romantic, platonic, or familial relationships they’ve been able to maintain. They seek out codependent, nurturing individuals who are more easily manipulated and controlled through guilt, shame, or fear, and will hold onto these relationships for as long as the person remains “useful.”

4. They Have No Moral Boundaries

There are no lines a narcissistic sociopath won’t cross to get what they want. Their moral compass is non-existent, leaving them without the sense of “right and wrong” that most people have. After doing something harmful, illegal, or sadistic, they won’t feel remorse, regret, or guilt. In fact, they may even feel a sense of satisfaction knowing they were able to deceive, emotionally manipulate, or hurt someone.

5. They Have a Limited Range of Emotions

Narcissistic sociopaths don’t experience feelings of love and affection, or more vulnerable emotions like guilt, shame, or sadness. The only strong emotion they seem to be able to access is anger. This can show up as outrage or narcissistic rage when they’re slighted, offended, or not granted something they feel they deserve. This stunted emotional range also keeps them from being able to experience empathy, sometimes leading them to engage in destructive behaviors that grant them some form of feeling.

6. They Have a Huge Discard Pile

Narcissistic sociopaths are known to discard people and things that are no longer useful to them. Over time, their narcissistic discard pile stacks up and may include former friends, lovers, colleagues, and mentors. Their discard pile may also include expensive material things they got bored or tired of, as well as roles or activities that served a purpose at one time but are no longer useful to them.

7. They Become Hostile When Threatened

Narcissistic sociopaths are most dangerous when they feel threatened. Because of their natural tendency to be paranoid, less trusting, and more easily offended, threats can be a routine occurrence for them. When they feel threatened, the narcopath will often become hostile and aggressive, lashing out and becoming abusive toward others.

8. They Feed Off of Negative Energy

A narcissistic sociopath feeds off of negative emotions and energy. There is something about drama, others’ fear or pain, or the chaos of disaster that seems to excite them or give them energy. This kind of parasitic attraction to negativity is a telltale sign of a sick person, including a person who may have traits of NPD and ASPD. This behavior is also what makes sociopathic narcissists sadistic and dangerous, causing them to enjoy the pain and suffering of others.1

9. They Get Bored Easily

A narcissistic sociopath is constantly seeking sensations and cheap thrills because nothing can hold their interest and attention for long. They become easily bored with people, things, and activities, and will abandon them once they are no longer entertained. This boredom can also turn into a restlessness that causes them to find destructive outlets. For this reason, people with these traits tend to be impulsive and aggressive, or engaged in crime, violence, or drug use.

10. They Are Empty Inside

A narcissistic sociopath may have worked hard to craft a powerful, important image, but this is a front. Lacking the ability to feel a full range of emotions makes them hollow and empty on the inside, keeping them from really experiencing things, expressing themselves, or connecting with others. This internal emptiness is what they’re trying to hide from others with their narcissism, and also what they’re seeking to escape within themselves by using maintaining a level of entertainment, power, or destruction.

Hailey Shafir, LCMHCS, LPCS, LCAS, CCS Medical Reviewer: Rajy Abulhosn, MD 

[saganssorcery]

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Initial: NH (18+)

Q- I wanted to know what Ts feelings are towards me?

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Hello! You have drawn The Devil and the Seven of Cups. There is a massive current of temptation here which is binding and not allowing them to think clearly in regards to how they should be acting towards you. They could feel as though something deceptive or illusionary is taking place and they are unable to judge what's right or wrong. There's an element of addiction or codependency mixed with fear regarding their feelings and as such could be struggling to decide what it is exactly that they want. While they are tempted by the connection for one reason or another, this temptation likely lacks a moral compass, for example; pleasure seeking with a fear of commitment to the connection.

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