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i noticed that in the s4 script it says that the Byler intimate moment was shattered, in the mlvn interrupted moment script it just says that Argyle dropped the pizza on the table, no moment was shattered, so i don't think Mike wanted to say "ily" in that moment, i think he wanted to apologize and imply he wanted to break up with El, but then Will said "you're the heart" and Mike started thinking El commissioned the painting and that those were El's feelings and he felt like he owed it to her to say those things because he thought it would've saved her, plus Eddie said forced conformity was what was killing the kids and Max died after Mike's monologue (just like how Barb died while Nancy was conforming to society with Steve in s1), Mike always knows when something is wrong with Will and even noticed when he was quieter than usual but with El at rink o mania he couldn't even tell she was scared and that Angela was a bully and he only got up when Will said "oh no", Mike's brain focuses more on Will, i don't understand why Mike couldn't tell Will that he "loved" El if he actually did because Jancy can say it to other people that they love each in s4 other but Mike kept saying "that thing" "i didn't know what to say", also the monologue makes no sense cuz El said he loved him in s3

also the Jopper moment was also shattered

#stranger things#gay#byler#mike wheeler#mike wheeler is gay#will byers#stranger things 4#stranger things 5#wiseheart#argyle stranger things#el hopper#eleven hopper#eddie munson#st4 script#jopper
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Do you know what dry as a california summer refers to?
A) Know? I was THERE. I was in the Trenches.
B) Yes, I’ve heard of it but after the fact
C) I didn’t know that was a real thing? I’ve heard rumors, but I thought it was like a Byler meme or something. Tell me more.
D) No, what’s that? I’m relatively new here
#byler#byler tumblr#byler endgame#stranger things#byler nation#mike wheeler#will byers#st4#stranger things 4#8flix#scriptgate#script gate
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Will and Mike reconcile x Stranger Things 4 - Dear Billy script
(from Strangerwriters)
#guess what happened a year ago#wanted to look back at them but then i saw the date#wanted to post them here if someone else wanted to see them i guess#ill post the rest as well#will byers#mike wheeler#byler#stranger things#st4#stranger writers#st scripts#st (mine)#rose posts
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We’re back with a new episode! This time around we’re talking about the script’s appendices, the fight at the Wheeler House, and giving our predictions for TUDUM 2025! Enjoy! 🔥
#stranger things#dailystrangerthings#tvstrangerthings#netflix tudum#tudum 2025#tudum#st5 tudum#stranger things tudum#prediction#podcasting#podcast#apple podcasts#spotify#script#appendix#analysis#st4#stranger things 4
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the sheer amount of interrupted heart-to-hearts that byler has had really makes you wonder what would happen if they didn’t get interrupted?
this post was sponsored by “the intimate moment is shattered” from the official script of st4
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Genuinely think they pitched the new st4 yockey script to William Shatner and he was like you're tripping if you think I'm gonna let CHRIS PINE beat me at spirk canon. But he wasn't like eager to kiss a man about it so a compromise had to be made
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Do you think that the reason for changing how long Henry has been flayed for in tfs on broadway could be to do with needing to recast child Henry for stranger things season five?
What with Covid and the strikes and everything else it was a long time before season five was able to even finalize the scripts, let alone start filming. If Raphael Luce was then too old to pull off playing the 12-13(?) year old Henry that was flayed then wouldn’t it be possible that rather than trying to find an extremely similar looking actor in the same age range it was decided to just recast a younger actor (being significantly younger is an easy excuse for any visual differences) and alter the age in the play to instead make Henry get flayed at a young age (age 8)? Plus it could lend itself to paralleling the flashback(s) with a younger Will in the upside down.
I’m also pretty sure Raphael Luce confirmed he wouldn’t be in season five. That along with how apparently something glossed over in the play is going to be expanded upon in season five (which is very likely, although not confirmed, to be Henry’s encounter with dimension x as a child) means it could be possible.
Idk, maybe none of this makes sense and it could definitely be a reach but I would be interested to know your thoughts on this.
Your reasoning makes sense, Anon, and I would agree with you if it weren't for all this:
Unseen outfits for Raphael
These unexplained BTS pics of the Creel house, parts of the house that were never used in ST4
This body double for the Creel murders that we've never seen used:
Evidence of Raphael having physically been at HNL, not just in a sound stage
Some unseen scene of Livi/Alice that required stunt glasses:
Raphael saying he was doing a lot of running and looking scared when he auditioned, which we never see from young Henry
Raphael having been filming in secret for a long time before ST4 was made
So while I'm sure Raphael didn't film during ST5 production, I'm hard pressed to say he won't be in ST5 at all. I'm pretty sure they won't recast, but if they do, they'll probably do something similar to what they did with El in the NINA arc. That is, of course, assuming that Raphael was actually playing Henry/there isn't a secret second boy who's doing all the running and looking scared, which is stuff that lines up with TFS Henry.
None of this is including the fact that on West End, Henry was 13 when he was flayed, and Kate said as much in an interview about it. We really don't know what age Henry was when things started to go wrong, but it was between ages 7 and 13.
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the idea of stage 4 traveling to universes by infiltrating codes of sanses and charas is so good! i think in that case stage 4 will also be able to infiltrate other killers because they have similar codes. that'd be interesting though - i wonder if there is a stage 4 out there wandering around with its own objectives, but no one has caught onto it yet.
i think error would haaaaaaate stage 4. it's stealing his job (bad!). and also iirc error hates other anomalies, and if he's to encounter another error he'll destroy them. there can only be one error and all that.
stage 4 vs the multiversal forces might be an interesting premise if anyone's up to it.
~ crowshipping anon
I love the premise of a stage 4 out there destroying timelines, going beneath the radar. Any timeline and aus blipping out can be waved away as something Error did, or something naturally occurring possibly.
I wonder how it’s manage to evade both ink and core, given ink’s stuff with scripts and core being able to see just about everything, if i remember correctly. If it’s apart of this specific Killer’s script and those worlds to be destroyed by Stage 4, perhaps Ink wouldn’t attempt to intervene; right up until Stage 4 does exactly that because it does not give a shit about scripts.
Not sure why exactly Core wouldn’t do much about it, besides Ink perhaps coming up with a way to distract from it. Unless maybe Core just can’t do anything against Stage 4 or something about it prevents them from seeing or being aware of it.
Makes me wonder about any possible signs of a presence Stage 4 could leave behind, assuming it leaves any at all. Perhaps it became a bit of a ghost story. Perhaps more reasons for Nightmare to crack down on keeping killer in his learned helplessness, because even if he doesn’t know exactly what Stage 4’s deal is, the brief moments of seeing it perhaps gives him a very bad feeling?
Or, alternatively, Killer becomes Stage 4 because Nightmare can sense the overwhelming negativity and possibly ill intent coming from it even during the brief times Killer’s triggered into it. So perhaps Nightmare gets ahead and himself and a little too arrogant, starts trying to find ways to trigger Stage 4 more and more—because even if the killing isn’t ideal, perhaps Nightmare assumes he can assume control of Killer still. Only this time more powerful, destructive, and obedient than ever.
I wonder how a confrontation between Error and st4 could go. Could Stage 4 potentially infect Error’s codes too? If Error is more like, erratic and unpredictable, and Stage 4 is more controlled and mechanical—but predictable and inflexible—wonder how it’d go.
Also gave me something of an image of like, something entrapping Stage 4 physically—Error’s strings, Color’s grablings, Nightmare’s tentacles, etc.—and rather than struggle to free itself or attack whatever or whoever is holding it, it just kills itself and Reloads to continue on. Something like that. Making extensive use of Save Points and the advantages of Determination.
And also this is the prime opportunity for Color and Killer to have their “you’re my friend” “you’re my mission” moment—although I feel this moment could’ve happened before with Stage 2, so it’ll likely be tweaked a little differently for Stage 4. Maybe with something a little more twisted, like color having to somehow assume control over St4 in order to put a stop to the rampage, because appealing to any emotion or friendship wouldn’t work.
#howlsasks#crowshipping anon#utmv#sans au#sans aus#killer sans#killer!sans#killertale#undertale au#utmv headcanons#color spectrum duo#bad sanses#bad sans gang#nightmare’s gang#nightmare sans#error sans#color sans#core frisk#killertale sans#undertale something new#undertalesomethingnew#something new sans#something new au#undertale aus#colour sans#ink!sans#nightmare!sans#error!sans#core!frisk#omega timeline
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Currently going insane over the fact that a.) Victor is labelled as “Corporal” in the ST playbook, despite introducing himself to Mr. Newby as “Sergeant”-


-and b.) the fact that Adams and Hicks from the Eldridge crew were both listed as “corporal” by the actors despite Adams’ actor previously having listed him as “sargent”:


Which is especially interesting considering this bit from the ST4 Papa script re: “Sergeant Hicks”:

(and of course, Sgt. Hicks is involved in raiding the NINA bunker, hellooo TFS NINA weirdness!!!! also staring at this vs TFS Brenner Jr yelling at Henry about “any hick with a buck knife,” plus “Hickman Hill,” in the Elvis Cloned by Aliens Weekly Watcher article, PLUS the article from the end of ST1 talking about State Attorney Thomas E. Hickman (hello “E” as in (Edward”…) )

And I’m also staring at all of that/all of the weird Hicks vs Hickman vs Hickman Hill and the Hickman Hill alien ship stuff vs a.) the way that both Victor and Hicks get their officer title changed vs how Victor’s uses alien movie-esque language in the foyer (talking about how “they’re here,” and he’s NOT referring to Henry and Patty, instead, the identity of the “they” that Victor is referring to is unclear, and gets wrapped into his WW2 flashbacks/he then talks about being able to smell the smoke from “their” bodies, so weirdly enough, the victims of Victor’s WW2 bombing misfire are getting paralleled to aliens)

(especially with the fact that in-show Victor’s casting auditions were done by having the actors read from the script for the movie “Signs,” which is an alien movie)
b.) the way that Brenner Jr talks about making a connecting/making the connection & how that also has very similar alien movie-esque vibes re: “making contact”/“making a connection” with aliens


And c.) the Eldridge being a ship vs the spaceship supposedly seen above Hickman Hill vs Hicks being a sailor on the Eldridge.
But anyway, what the hell is going on with the weird mismatched WW2 officer titles??? Especially considering what I talked about wayyyy back re: Victor in Normandy on D-Day versus D-Day’s huge communication & chain of command problems & how that resulted in soldiers doing the duties of ranks they werent supposed to be doing/basically accidentally rising in the ranks… Versus TFS Victor introducing himself as being a rank above his “actual” (according to the play book, at least) rank, as Sergeants are ranked above Corporals.
And all of this gets extra interesting with the fact that there’s a direct reference to Welcome to Marwen (the movie from the ST4 board where a guy pretends to be a WW2 captain to cope with trauma & creates a whole fake little town as part of it hellloo hawkins esp with ‘welcome to marwen’ vs ‘welcome to hawkins’) during the scene where Mr. Newby and Victor meet for the first time… hahaha what the hell is going on???

Especially re: the parallel between Victor’s “corporal vs sergeant” stuff vs the Eldridge crew’s “corporal vs sergeant” stuff versus the Eldridge crew & Captain Brenner also having references to Welcome to Marwen…
#stranger things#the first shadow#victor creel#i remember leaning over to james when we first saw it during the intermission like#‘wasnt was victor a corporal in the book?? whyd he say sergeant?? he did say sergeant Right??’#theyre doing this to torment me specifically fr#like. what the fuck is up with these ww2 men#why do i keep finding more and MORE references to mr newby and burlesque#like i thought it was just the church scene as a one-off . but no#victor’s full of weird alien references & changing titles#mr newbys full of burlesque references#the eldridge crew is full of alien references and changing titles and 62748; other things#and ALLL OF THEM have direct references to welcome to marwen#what is up with these bitches. i need them all under a microscope right meow
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Pariahs fic update!!
So... I know everyone must be wondering why I'm not updating and I am here to confirm Netflix has officially logged me out of my own account because of their stupid 'no sharing' policy. (I literally pay for my subscription but since I'm at my university flat and not home, I can't watch anything - make it make sense!!!)
Usually that wouldn't affect my fics but since Pariahs is a reader insert into ST4, I really need the series to be able to follow the script.
I am back home in 3 weeks which is longer than it should be for me to write a chapter but I thank everyone for their patience <3
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notice how the Byler intimate moment and the Jopper moment were shattered (two different kind of moments) but in the mlvn scene it just says that Argyle dropped the pizza on the table? there was no moment, Mike wasn't about to say ily, he was about to apologize


#stranger things#gay#byler#mike wheeler#mike wheeler is gay#will byers#stranger things 4#stranger things 5#wiseheart#st4 script#jopper
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How do I download the ST4 script? Does anybody have the link or so?
#stranger things#nancy wheeler#mike wheeler#jonathan byers#jancy#steve harrington#stancy#will byers#byler#robin buckley
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El and Max reunite x Stranger Things 4 - The Piggyback script
(from Strangerwriters)
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We’re back with another script episode! This time we’re talking about the epic showdown between 001 and Eleven at the lab and how Eleven is able to harness her inner strength! Enjoy! 😘
#stranger things#dailystrangerthings#tvstrangerthings#eleven hopper#eleven stranger things#el hopper#jane hopper#vecna#vecna stranger things#vecna/henry/001#vecna/henry/one#st vecna#henry creel#001 stranger things#hawkins lab#podcasting#podcast#spotify#apple podcasts#script#script reading#st4#stranger things 4
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I've seen some people say that Noah and his team are trying to save his image by using Will and byler. What do you think? 🤨
if that’s the case, then he needs to start making some calls to join the witness protection program by the time ST5 comes out because we all know that the bylers will come for his neck lol
now, let’s get more serious here. i don’t know why everything noah does must have some hidden sinister motive. millie, caleb and even jamie have been posting bts content these past few months and nobody over analyses it in the same way that they do with noah. noah isn’t waking up randomly saying “oh the fans hate me, let’s give them will bts content so they can love me again” and chooses to post bts pics because he wants to. every single thing he has posted publicly about the show this year must’ve been coordinated and approved by the netflix. we’re talking about a show that’s spending so much money in security and ndas to avoid leaks and spoilers so i can assure you that they aren’t letting their actors just post stuff for their own selfish reasons. the duffers, before they started filming, mentioned that they would let us see more because it’s the last season and clearly they’ve curated content for us to keep the hype up, and the actors are being instructed as well to do the same. it’s funny that only noah is the attention seeker or the one using his character for redemption here when other actors are also posting bts content. he’s excited about being will for the last time and he’s allowed to.
now let’s talk about byler. let’s make it clear from the beginning that he doesn’t write the show and it’s not clear if he’s got the complete scripts yet. if byler doesn’t happen, it’s not his fault. he clearly likes it, he has liked byler for years and supports the idea but even he has been aware that he doesn’t control the storylines and said at a con that he doesn’t want people to be disappointed if it doesn’t happen. this year he has barely mentioned byler since they started filming and let me say that if there’s a byler pic in his photo dump then it’s there because it was allowed to be there by netflix. let’s not forget that there’s also times people just look for byler in places they shouldn’t and then blame noah. for example when they were snooping on his spotify playlist and making it about byler, that’s obviously not his fault. even in one of his livestreams recently, he literally said “i can’t talk about that” multiple times and didn’t hint at anything and people said it was about byler and honestly that’s not his fault. writing theories is fun and all that but we have to be aware that they are just theories for now.
he’s been mostly posting and talking about his own life recently and he has posted will when he’s been allowed to. you all know that i love byler and i’d love to see it happen but noah doesn’t control it and we all have to be aware of that. we also shouldn’t jump at making conclusions so early because let’s not forget when people were attacking noah after ST4 part 1 came out because will being gay wasn’t clear yet. he tried to clear it up a bit and told people to wait, and some people still attacked him personally and even said that “he doesn’t understand because he’s a straight frat boy” at the time when he was still closeted.
i sometimes honestly dread for the day ST5 comes out if byler doesn’t happen because i know we will get a way worse repeat of that. i also sometimes wish he wouldn’t post so much ST stuff because they same people enjoying all that content also end up attacking him daily for it.
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