#stupid as shit discourse

[bisexualtrashpanda]

God This is Pathetic

You really have people getting honestly upset that parts of the GIANT, NUCLEAR WASTE LASER SPEWING SEA LIZARD are now pink instead of blue.

Because pink isn't "masculine." Never mind the fact that Godzilla isn't always depicted as being "male" (not even really a Godzilla "fan," only seen a few of the movies, and even I know that), and, honestly, assigning gender, much less gender ROLES, to fictional giant nuclear dinosaurs is fucking stupid.

"But it's not his original color!!1!"

My Brother in Christ, not only has Godzilla used pink before, the original movie was in BLACK AND WHITE.

How damn fragile can some cis-het dudes' egos even GET?! This is the whole "(Movie) Venom has to be straight so I can project my self-worth onto them, and will therefore bend over backwards to redefine as many words and meanings as I have to to make that happen!" debaucle all over again.

(For context, when, after the 2nd movie came out, and they had Venom straight up say that he and Eddie loved each other, and showing that neither of them were straight, the cis-het "comic" dude-bros threw an absolute fucking fit. Not only would they violently chuck aside the info that Eddie Brock had been canonically bisexual in the comics since the 80's and that the two had 100% been in a very much romantic relationship for decades, but they would also claim that "Venom's not gay because he's asexual!!" Except, A}, You're [purposefully] throwing asexuality and asexual reproduction into a damn blender. And, B}Asexuals are 100% part of the LGBTQ community)

[beckyblah]

We don’t talk enough about exile happening directly after Tommy’s brother has a full on mental health crisis and then is murdered by his own father (in Tommy’s eyes). Like yea he was “alone” for two weeks before getting suicidal. But those two weeks were directly after the most traumatizing circumstances you can conceive of lol

[thecoolerliauditore]

i might regret this deeply and delete this in the morning but the whole obsession with pearl and gems shipping boundaries and how they recently changed is literally the most blatant example of ""boundaries"" being more about policing the fandom than care for the creators especially in pearls case.

I used to be very headstrong about Respecting The Creators so I actually dug around for actual things that they said and Pearls only mention of shipping before was on a deleted stream clip where she specifically calls out assumably someone IN CHAT making allusions to her relationship with grian as like. Actual content creators. The transcript even had a section of her saying that "some people do it for fanfiction and stuff and that's fine(...) but please don't bring it into streams that's not appropriate" or something like that.

I can't say for sure her exact wording or be certain of the context or even provide proof that this happened at all because THE ONLY surviving evidence of it is someone's random transcript. In which she literally says shipping is okay.

But because the fandom loves to play this weird fucked up game of telephone it somehow became pearl is uncomfortable with shipping which is just. Not true? And has never been true based on the only thing we've ever heard from her at that point.

not that what the creators feel comfortable with should dictate the fandom anyway BUT yeah sorry I just needed to get that out of my system. You guys don't actually give a shit about the CCs as people you just want brownie points for following made up rules to stay in your super awesome club house.

[mxtxfanatic]

So I just did some math, and y’all got me fucked up. I’ve seen so much handwringing in this fandom about the age disparity between Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian’s body because “oh, lwj is soooooo much older than Mo Xuanyu, it ‘basically’ counts as a grooming that wwx was given such a young body and lwj is still attracted to him!”

It’s literally not true. Lan Wangji is around 33 at the start of the present-day plotline. Mo Xuanyu is 27. Y’all are so full of shit.

The math:

Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian are around the same age, give or take some months. They are 15/16 at the start of the Cloud Recesses arc, the discussion conference in Qishan happens less than two years later (16), the Wen indoctrination camp happens definitively when they are 17 (madam yu says so) a year later, then the Sunshot Campaign takes place 2 weeks after that with Lotus Pier’s fall. The war lasts for around a year or two, but wwx mentions he is 20 during the Phoenix Mountain hunt. This means he’s still 20 when he breaks the Wen remnants out of the labor camps 2 months later, and they abscond to the Burial Mounds. For Burial Mounds arc timeline, you have to go by A-Yuan/Lan Sizhui’s. A-Yuan is a teething toddler between one and two (jc deduces) in the Burial Mounds. He’s 15 at the start of the story 13 years later. The Burial Mounds settlement, therefore, lasts about a year. By the time of the siege, wwx should be 21 (again, give or take a few months). Thirteen years later, lwj is 33/34.

Mo Xuanyu, on the other hand, is given a definite age start. He is 14 when he is taken by Jin Guangshan back to Koi Tower. This happens after the siege but  before Nie Mingjue dies (Jin Guangyao mentions this in the chapt. 79 flashback during his argument with Nie Mingjue about Xue Yang), and Nie Mingjue dies a year after the first siege takes place. This would mean that Mo Xuanyu is 14 when the siege happens and, 13 years later, he would be 27 when he sacrifices his body to summon Wei Wuxian.

Mo Xuanyu is not some barely-legal young adult at the start of the story, and the age difference, besides, would be 7 years at most. The fact that this is regular discourse is embarrassing.

[solongandgoodknight]

meeting gay people in real life and going to lgbt spaces around you and meeting the community there is the easiest way to realise 90% of gay online discourse is profoundly unhelpful and useless and no one actually gives a shit about it in real life.

[kinardscoffee]

One of the craziest things about that half of the fandom is that they get so MAD when you point out the obvious.

It seems to me that the biggest issue they have in common is playing the victim card. I sent one ask on my "burner account" (my main) as they so lovingly call it, and suddenly, I'm the example they used to claim they constantly get hate. Like, ok, gurl. You answered my ask within 2.4 minutes like a firey inferno.

I definitely know you aren't getting them on the regular.

And stop saying it's because they're normally anons. You've had anons off for at least a year.

Just... make it make sense.

And if anyone is interested what my vile, mean, horribly bitchy ask was... here ya go (with their response, minus their name cause I'm not that evil):

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And, for full disclosure, cause I'd hate to be that bitch, it was in regards to this post with these tags:

[dr3amofagame]

it's kind of funny i think a little bit when people frame the issues with dsmp fandom as being about high expectations when the story that was told was consistently much more complex and rich and varied than the fandom made it out to be, despite its flaws and hiccups due to the nature of its creation. like nah lets not give em too much credit now its not the creators' fault that the dsmp fandom couldnt identify the themes of the server when they were beat over the head with them

[problemnyatic]

"Trans men treat transfems like shit, trans women are so weird to transmascs-"

hey ive got an idea what if we all shut the fuck up and held hands and realized letting our dysphoria and trauma bleed out into how we treat others is something we all need to work on together and drawing lines in the sand and reinventing boys versus girls Queer Edition isn't gonna help any of us heal from the shit we're all going through in some form or another

[eternallyb0red]

It's funny to me that people are claiming charlastor to be a proship.... because I'm sorry to break it to you but,

alastor is the most shipped character in the show but apparently it's charlastor that's the aroace erasure for everyone (which is another stupid take bcs how does shipping in fanon takes rep in canon media ???!)

Being aroace doesn't mean you can't love or enjoy sex, it's a very wide spectrum. (I'm not really saying this with reference to Al, it's just a very common misconception people have)

Viv actually said that it's OK for people to ship whatever they want but they SHOULDN'T HARASS others!!

"Alastor sees Charlie as his daughter" yeah a narcissistic, egocentric, borderline psychopath who's also a serial killer and possible cannibal was def being 100% honest about that yeah....

People forget that being so restrictive on every ship and nitpicking things you personally don't like about it and labelling it as a "proship" is plain stupid. Ship and let ship. Fiction is supposed to be a place where ppl escape reality, it shouldn't be the other way around.

EDIT: y'all if letting ppl ship what they want is proship then why is it always on everyone's dni list?? 😭😭 This is why I just always assumed it meant problematic ships

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

i just found this on the comments section of an instagram post (basically the post said that it's okay to ship glimmadora but not okay to ship adora and bow).

i'm pretty sure this is a troll but their logic is killing me lmao. why are they implying that angella died because of glimmer's “temper tantrum”? did they even watch the show ☠️

and “W catra” i guess when catra kills someone, it's a girlboss move. it's as if this person hasn't even watched spop, they're just commenting whatever and blindly supporting catra. props to the other person for calling them out on their BS though.

[rotisseries]

tired of people who want pjo movie references in the disney+ show. "logan lerman should've been-" i don’t care. "poker face in the casino-" actually i hope ms. gaga keeps her entire discography miles away from it. i don't care move on

[steakout-05]

i might get some hate for this depending on where this post goes but i think lesboys are so valid and the discourse about them is so ridiculous. like you guys shouldn't have to deal with all that and it frustrates me that people throw hissy fits over an identity that literally does not affect them at all.

"but men cant be lesbians-" wrong. butch lesbians and trans men have a really closely connected history with each other that practically intersects and you should really do some research on that before you make blanket statements, not to mention that gender and sexuality is weird and wobbly and fluid and a very personal experience. it means a different thing to each person. being a man can be something completely different and saying stuff like this ignores people like demiboys, demigirls, genderfluid and genderflux people etc. these people will really preach "demolish the gender binary!! love is love!!" until someone's relationship with gender and sexuality is a little too freaky for them to handle and be challenged by lmaoo

"ohhh but what about the cishet men who say they're lesbians to prey on women-" YEAH WHAT ABOUT THEM????? THIS AIN'T ABOUT THEM BRO!!!!! this argument also REEKS of terfy "trans women are just predatory men!!!111!!1" rhetoric and it grosses me out. yeah some men are gross and do try to pull this but that does not negate someone's entire identity completely just because of a few bad actors, you know that right? actual black and white behaviour.

queer discourse is silly and i don't know why it's a thing. just let people exist. it isn't that hard. we have worse things to worry about than whether someone calls themselves a lesboy or not. i think we need to unplug our ears and yank our heads out of the sand and remember that the queer community is what it is because of our unique and amazing diversity. arguing over labels like school children isn't gonna help that. damn.

[gnometa233]

Why is it ALWAYS the people who aren't lesbians saying shit like "why can't lesbians and bisexuals just get along :((. We have bigger things to fight for! Bisexual lesbians aren't hurting anybody" like okay! We get it! Yall hate lesbians and hate when we have our own words to discuss our experiences and attraction! You can't stand it when we exist because it reminds you that you don't have to center men! You think that all ~queer women~ can just be flattened down into one homogenous group! Well guess what! We can't! Holy fucking shit just mind your own buisness and stay away from lesbians

[hurglewurm]

I could be really off the mark here, but I thought I remembered seeing you reblog art shipping Tintin and captain Haddock?? Anyway, saw this mural and thought of you

this is one of the funniest asks i've ever received LMAO good mural. thank you for sharing. good for them good for them

[reigningmax]

The way the same people who scream and cry about Max not being passionate and is bored of winning, are now screaming and crying about him voicing his frustrations with the car because ...he wants to keep winning... please do you know how stupid you sound

[proudfreakmetarusonniku]

if u can’t stop urself from going into gcs with fans and making jokes about selling tit and feet pics and making jokes about killing yourself if ur fans don’t do what you want to when some of them are as young as 14 while the current Thing is examining that being in gcs and talking about adult stuff with minors as a cc is Weird at best ur too stupid to have a platform sorry